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16 Examples That Show The United States Has Become A Seriously Messed Up Country

Inside My Head By Andrew MasonIn recent years, it has been quite common to hear our politicians and top media personalities talk about the need for America to use military force to impose “our values” on the rest of the world.  But what “values” could they possibly be talking about?  The truth is that we don’t have any “values” worth sharing with anyone at this point.  America has become a festering cesspool of garbage and filth, and it is getting worse with each passing day.  As a nation, we need to humble ourselves and turn away from our wicked deeds and rediscover the values that once made this country great.  But instead, we seem to have developed a thirst for evil that can never be satisfied.  The entire nation seems to be slowly going insane, and not that many people are even alarmed by this.  I hope that you will share this article with others, because the American people desperately need a giant wake up call.  The following are 16 examples that show that the United States has become a seriously messed up country…

#1 The American flag is starting to be banned in schools all over the nation, and federal courts are backing them up on this

Last week in Dariano v. Morgan Hill Unified School Dist., the 9th Circuit ruled that a public school can actually ban the American flag. Making matters worse, the decision allows the school to ban the American flag and still allow students to display flags of other countries.

#2 Speaking of our courts, many of them appear to have literally gone insane.  Just check out what the highest court in Massachusetts recently ruled

Massachusetts’ highest court has ruled that a man accused of secretly snapping photos up a woman’s skirt on an MBTA train did not break the law.

The State Supreme Judicial Court on Wednesday dismissed charges against Michael Robertson of Andover, who was arrested in August 2010 by transit police.

Officers had set up a sting on the Green Line after getting reports that Robertson was using his cellphone to take photos and video up female rider’s skirts and dresses.

#3 Parents are starting to lose the natural affection that they should have for their children.  For example, a pregnant mother that already had three children recently tried to kill them all by driving her minivan into the ocean

“The two in the back seat was crying, with their arms out saying ‘Our mommy’s trying to kill us, please help,'” said Tesseneer.

A bystander’s video of the rescue shows a rescuer carrying two children away from the sinking van when the children tell them there was another child inside.

“The kids are like, ‘No there’s a baby. There’s a baby,'” Tesseneer said. “She (the mother) wouldn’t say a word. She didn’t tell us nothing about a baby.”

The men are seen on video frantically trying to get to the small child through the hatchback and the driver’s side door.

#4 In the old days, some people would cruelly abandon their pets in the woods, but now this is actually happening to children

A Florida couple was arrested for allegedly abandoning their three young children in the woods, authorities said.

Michael and Sarah Butcher, both 30, were first arrested Friday after illegally parking their red truck in a private RV park in Punta Gorda.

Cops later found crystal meth in their car’s glove compartment, along with a syringe and a burnt spoon, according to the arrest report.

After the pair was taken to jail –- where they repeatedly claimed to be brother and sister –- the police received a call that three children were found walking in the woods, “very dirty, hungry, and cold,” according to a police report.

#5 Teenagers in America just continue to become even more cruel.  Perhaps we should rethink the way that we are raising our children…

Four teenagers are accused of carving a swastika into the forehead of a 16-year-old boy.

The Oregonian reports that Jenna Montgomery, 15, Jess Taylor, 17, Blue Kalmbach, 15, and a 14-year-old boy attacked the boy in a shed, shooting him with a BB gun and hitting him with a crow bar, on top of carving a swastika into his forehead.

#6 The FDA is actually considering making it legal for doctors and scientists to create “three parent babies” in the United States.

#7 Our financial system appears to be more corrupt than it ever has been before.  And yet nobody ever seems to go to prison

In a nearly $13 billion settlement with the U.S. Justice Department in November 2013, JPMorganChase admitted that it, along with every other large U.S. bank, had engaged in mortgage fraud as a routine business practice, sowing the seeds of the mortgage meltdown. JPMorgan and other megabanks have now been caught in over a dozen major frauds, including LIBOR-rigging and bid-rigging; yet no prominent banker has gone to jail.

#8 Sexual perversion of all types is running rampant in America.  Just consider what one Florida man recently did with a dog

Police have arrested a Tampa man after his neighbors reported that he was having sex with a dog.

According to Tampa Police, officers were flagged down by the man’s neighbors on N. Marks Street Tuesday afternoon.

“When officers arrived on scene, they were greeted by a small crowd of residents who were disturbed by their neighbor’s activity with the dog,” a police spokeswoman explained. “Several of the witnesses stated that they yelled at the suspect to stop, but he ignored their commands.”

#9 An all-time high 59 percent of all Americans believe that the traditional definition of marriage needs to be changed.

#10 The popularity of “throuples” has surged so much that a new dating website has been launched that will cater to them specifically.

#11 Authorities around the nation are alarmed at the rise in occult-inspired crimes that appears to be happening.  Most of you have probably heard about “the Craigslist Killer” by now…

A woman in Pennsylvania who has been charged with murder for killing  a man she met on Craigslist has told reporters that she has committed over 20 murders as part of a satanic cult.

“When I hit 22 [murders], I stopped counting,” 19-year-old Miranda Barbour told the Daily Item on Saturday.

#12 The United States already has the highest rate of divorce in the entire world, and now the divorce rate is on the rise again.  Some pundits are blaming the “improving economy” for this.

#13 In America today, there are 60 million people that abuse alcohol and there are 22 million people that use illegal drugs.

#14 As I wrote about recently, there are 747,408 registered sex offenders in the U.S. according to the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children.  That number only includes the ones that have been caught and convicted.

#15 Planned Parenthood has produced a video “that promotes bondage and sadomasochism” to teens…

Planned Parenthood of Northern New England (PPNNE)–which received more than $2.75 million in government funding in 2012–has produced and posted online a video specifically aimed at teenagers that promotes bondage and sadomasochism (BDSM) and proposes “rules” to follow when engaging in these activities.

“People sometimes think that those who practice BDSM are emotionally scarred or were once abused—not true, it’s a total myth,” the host of the video, Laci Green, informs its intended audience of teens.

“BDSM relies upon and creates trust,” she says.

By the way, the U.S. government gives hundreds of millions of dollars to Planned Parenthood each year.

#16 Speaking of Planned Parenthood, more than 56 million American babies have been slaughtered in this country since Roe v. Wade was decided in 1973.

What should be done to a nation that does such a thing?

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  • Dimitrios Kirkos

    First!

    • Tatiana Covington

      USA! USA! USA!

      • Kim

        Idiot.

  • Paul

    Example # 17- They voted for Obama twice!!! OH MY G-D!!

  • Rastus

    “It is easier to denature plutonium than to denature the evil spirit of man” -A. Einstein-

  • Kim

    Like the weather forecast for Oregon…. DEPRESSING. I can’t get through the list. So tremendously depressing. :-(. Where is the hope?

    • lisa

      Do not be worried Jesus is coming just be ready to meet him in the air.

      • Kim

        I need to do some routine maintenance on my hot air balloon.

        • Gay Veteran

          ROFLOL

  • Tatiana Covington

    None of this is any of my fault or business. Let them destroy themselves and each other… more room and resources for me.

    Besides, who knows, maybe people will soon be obsolete.

    • Sandbagger

      I gave you a vote up. It’s what you wanted because you’re living for yourself.

      Have a happy life. (Corporeal, that is.)

      • Kim

        …and their reward will be in full…

    • Kim

      Sure, none of your concern until one of these messed up Americans crosses your path. Right?
      Maybe people will soon be obsolete? You’re insane.

      • Tatiana Covington

        I said “who knows, maybe…”

        Can’t you read?

        • Kim

          Ok, sweet pea. Lol.

          You’re still an IDIOT. Don’t be offended, it’s just a medical term.

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            She doesn’t mean “who knows, maybe”.
            She’s posted before some really loon theories about the future of man. If memory serves, it was something along the lines of our souls being downloaded into machines or some such.

          • Kim

            yeah, she’s just throwing it out there. she really doesn’t believe that stuff, herself, right? yeah sure!

  • DJohn1

    I maintain that part of what is wrong is that these people were dumped on this planet. It seems like the entire planet has more than its fair share of psychos.
    If I were training any animal out there I would make the punishment so that the animal associated the punishment with the behavior. This is not being done. So the illusion is that they will not be punished for what they are doing in this world.
    So when their soul departs the body, then they get punished? I question whether or not this trains anyone to do anything. The punishment according to most religions is after you live your life. That is not the way to train someone to do anything.
    The lie is that there is no life for the soul after the death of the body. And you have a great number of people all over this planet that believe that there is no punishment for doing wrong.
    Any time you have someone that is on drugs of any kind, you have people with a compulsion that over rules any humane behavior on their part. The only important thing is the compulsion they are hooked on.
    What you have described is that behavior.

  • K

    Evil is growing stronger, with each passing day. Why? Because the majority of people will tell you, there is no such thing as evil. Add to that a growing number who actually worship it. Yeah it is a dark road this Nation is on.

    • Gay Veteran

      oh there is evil, and it resides in the corridors of power

      • TheVetHeCould’veBeen

        And the corridors of perversion.

        • Gay Veteran

          well I do think war-mongering psychopaths are perverse

    • Jason7189

      Probably the devil’s greatest lie, is whispering to people he doesn’t exist either. His agenda is everything and anything, to get people to turn from looking upon the Cross of Jesus Christ.

      • Romans1

        The devil’s second biggest lie is that man is good. All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.

        • SlaveThink

          Yes, original sin indeed. We are all born guilty. Only repentance and paying god’s representatives on earth for our indulgences will save us, just as only paying taxes will save us from global warming….climate change…climate disruption.

          • 35wormhole

            the bible is garbage

          • jimnjoy

            Really? How much of it have you actually read?

          • jimnjoy

            What are you talking about? “paying god’s representatives on earth” has nothing to do with salvation.

        • 35wormhole

          the devil doesn’t exist

          • jimnjoy

            The devil would like you to believe that.

          • Citizen Quasar

            jimnjoy thinks reality is a haunted house and that magical beings lurk in dark shadows.

      • el guapo

        I respect your point of view but that’s not correct. Nearly everyone accepts the notion that Satan exists in one form or another. No. Satan’s greatest lie is that we live on the outer, convex slope of a solid object. God’s truth is that we in fact live on the inner, concave slope of a hollow object. This is the truth. The fact that you can’t believe it is testimony to the depth of Satan’s lie.

        • Citizen Quasar

          What a load of crap.

          • el guapo

            Citizen “Quasar”??? …even your name is a load of crap

          • Citizen Quasar

            You are a shill-bot. Turing test FAILED!!!

        • 35wormhole

          satan is a IFOFIB(imaginary friend or foe irrational belief) and your claim is crap

        • jimnjoy

          I’m not sure what you mean by “outer, convex slope of a solid object” and “inner, concave slope of a hollow object”. Please explain.

    • Dani California

      Evil is an oversimplification to control the masses

  • Richard

    I like the idea of “throuples”!

    • Tim

      Why? I think it’s perverted.

      • Richard

        So you can cross your heart and cut your throat and swear you never fantasized about doing it with two girls?
        Riiiiiiiiiiight

        • Tim

          You have some real problems, Richard.

          • Kim

            Yes he does.

  • P.F

    We are living in the Days of Noe/Lot–a wicked and perverse generation. This generation will face the same end as the generation of Noe and those living in Sodom and Gomorrah. The Book of Revelation speaks clearly.

    • Kim

      Noe? You mean Noah?

      • Michael

        The Bible spells Noe name both Noe and Noah, depends if you are looking at the Hebrew or Greek translation of the name to English.

        • Kim

          Well, since it was written in Hebrew, I’m hoping it would be a Hebrew translation. But, in English it’s Noah. Just use regular vernacular we all understand!

          • Michael

            From your answer I can see you really do not study the Bible, the beginning of Genesis, Jeremiah, and Job were written in Aramaic, the rest of the Old Testament and some of the beginnings of some of the books in the New Testament were written in Hebrew, Greek and Latin finished out the rest of the New Testament.

          • Kim

            Parts of Daniel were original

          • Michael

            So you answered your own question about Noe or Noah, the same person.

          • Kim

            Not that I doubted Noe meant Noah, I just thought it was a typo at first

    • Gay Veteran

      bilge

    • Michael

      I agree those sodomites will burn again just as they burned in the cities of the plain.

      • Gay Veteran

        and wouldn’t you love to light the fire, you Taliban wannabe

        • Michael

          The only reason you disagree with me is because by your name you are a homosexual, I am just telling you the truth, if you want eternal damnation in hell, thats your propagative, I am just trying to warn you of your wicked ways thats all, take it as you want, repent repent repent, time is running out, then its too late.

          • Gay Veteran

            yep, Taliban wannabe

          • Michael

            What I can tell you is if I were in Syria fighting that war and I had to choose a side, it would be with the government and not the opposition, Bashar Al Asad may be a mean guy, but he defends Christians, unlike the American president, that persecutes Christians, allows the leaf alizarin of drugs sickening, and the most discussing of all is his pro homosexual stance, it disgusting.

          • Gay Veteran

            “…allows the leaf alizarin of drugs sickening, and the most discussing of all is his pro homosexual stance….”

            guess it depends on who owns your body. The government? Or you?

          • SlaveThink

            Michael is right gay veteran. God is up there right now keeping a tally of how many times you stick your meat stick in the wrong hole. Be afraid and Repent…

          • Gay Veteran

            religion exists for 2 reasons:
            (1) man fears death,
            (2) as a means of social control (obey the king or you’ll go to h ell)

          • Ben

            DO NOT MESS WITH GOD!!! HE will always show mercy and continuous love, but if you get on His bad side, He is not one to mess with. Satan thinks he can win but the thing is, is that God can speak things into and out of existence. How can you beat that power? Plus God is not human so we CANNOT equate him to humanly things.

          • 35wormhole

            god is a IFOFIB(imaginary friend or foe irrational belief)

          • Gay Veteran

            “..keeping a tally of how many times you stick your meat stick in the wrong hole…”

            your sceen name fits you well

  • apeiron

    About the ADChoices videos that won’t mute nor turn off…you need to know, I very quickly quit using sites that have those. For instance, I no longer look at Christian Post because I don’t want to hear those annoying ads. I for one will quit coming here if those remain.

  • el guapo

    I’ll just keep on saying it…this is NOT a collapse, it is a controlled demolition. Understand THAT and we can begin to find solutions.

    • Bill M

      Right you are, el guapo.

      Don’t see all the trolls on this site that mocked Mike on Infowars, where this article also appears. The fake comments there that make it look like “everybody” thinks Mike’s criticisms are wrong are among the demolition tools, psyops to sway normal people towards self-destructive and socially destructive beliefs. Gotta have a thick skin if you’re going to tell the truth and dare to condemn evil behavior in the US these days.

      But finding a solution? I think our country will just implode like Greece, Spain, etc. with the Powers That Shouldn’t Be dividing and conquering, starving and sickening everyone, and warring with the few courageous resisters who know who the real enemy is. Work for decency but be prepared for whatever further indecencies the PTSB can dream up. Nothing will stop them till enough people just say no and don’t back down.

  • J.shelton

    Hello mr.Tim,Are you a writer for this site? If you are I would like to thankyou and your fellow staff for making a informed and what seems to me a religious based news site.I’ve been coming to this site for over a year now thanlyou :)

  • piccadillybabe

    There seems to be a “quiet sense of desperation” looming in the air most places these days. People do not like to talk about it but they know things are not right and you can see it in their eyes. Everyone is scared due to the uncertainty of the economy. The fact that our leaders have nothing better to do than sniff out another war to delve into is really disturbing. Anytime there is unrest in the world, we jump at the chance to profit from it under the guise of “wanting to bring peace to the people and enlighten them with American democracy.” First we create civil war among the people and then bring in the troops to quell the chaos. We are not kidding anyone with our madness. They are all just trying to find the best way to tame the beast at this point.

  • Citizen Quasar

    “#16 Speaking of Planned Parenthood, more than 56 million American babies have been slaughtered in this country since Roe v. Wade was decided in 1973.”

    Fetuses and embryos and zygotes are NOT babies. They are anatomic parts of a woman’s organic body. A woman getting an abortion is merely that woman exercising her right to do whatever she wants to with her own body which is her most intimate personal property and without property rights there are NO rights.

    Now I expect a bunch of anti-abortionists to tag on here with all their contradictions and whimsical emotive ejaculations. Perhaps I will answer them, perhaps not. It is likely that my comments here will be banned and deleted as this is what often happens when I apply reason to the abortion issue.

    • Wayne Chipman

      What Reason? Murder is Murder. What does a woman’s right have to do with Murdering a Baby.

      • Kim

        Nothing. It’s just an excuse.

      • Gay Veteran

        and how many unwanted babies have you adopted?
        who controls your body? the government? or you?

        • Citizen Quasar

          It is irrelevant whether I have adopted any unwanted babies or not. A fetus us NOT a baby and that is the issue here. What is a right, “Gay Veteran?”

          • Gay Veteran

            it is highly relevant if a person wants to impose the entire burden on the women and yet shoulder none themselves.
            plus no adoption by those who oppose abortion means they have NO moral authority to speak on the subject

          • Citizen Quasar

            “it is highly relevant if a person wants to impose the entire burden on the women
            and yet shoulder none themselves.”

            The ONLY person who is responsible for what a woman grows naturally inside her own body is the woman. How can anyone else share that responsibility?

            “plus no adoption by those who oppose abortion means they have NO moral authority to speak on the subject”

            When I speak up for women’s rights to their own physical bodies, I am being as moral as can be. It has NOTHING to do with whether or not I adopt babies.

          • Gay Veteran

            why are you arguing with me??? I’m not the one seeking to force women to give birth

          • Citizen Quasar

            I am only defending myself as you attacked me by telling me I am immoral. You are one of those people who can dish it out but you can’t take it. This is exactly what I would expect from a gay veteran. You are a total wimp and a whiner.

          • Gay Veteran

            thanks for proving you’re a troll, citizen GASar

          • Citizen Quasar

            In the end, those who lack facts resort to name calling, insults, and, occasionally, profanity in place of their facts. Calling me a troll is just your way of pretending that you have a moral sanction to NOT answer me; to NOT post a valid and reasoned argument.

          • Gay Veteran

            “…to NOT post a valid and reasoned argument.”

            all hail the great and powerful Gasar!

            must take a lot of energy being a troll.

            btw, you must be pretty paranoid if you think I attacked you by telling you that you’re immoral

          • Citizen Quasar

            Are you the pitcher or the catcher?

          • Gay Veteran

            why, you getting all tingly down there?

          • Person

            The thing that makes me laugh is that Gay Veteran and Citizen Quasar think they know the truth. well, hate to break it to you but you DON’T!!!!!

          • Citizen Quasar

            I DO know the truth. You are obviously from the camp that says that no one can be certain of anything…and yet I am certain. This makes you a skeptic. A skeptic is nothing but a frustrated intrinsicist.

            There are, in essence, three schools of thought on the nature of the good: the intrinsic, the subjective, and the objective. The intrinsic theory holds that the good is inherent in certain things or actions as such, regardless of their context and consequences, regardless of any benefit or injury they may cause to the actors and subjects involved. It is a theory that divorces the concept of “good” from beneficiaries, and the concept of “value” from valuer and purpose—claiming that the good is good in, by, and of itself.

            The intrinsic theory holds that the good resides in some sort of reality, independent of man’s consciousness.

            If a man believes that the good is intrinsic in certain actions, he will not hesitate to force
            others to perform them. If he believes that the human benefit or injury caused by such actions is of no significance, he will regard a sea of blood as of no significance. If he believes that the beneficiaries of such actions are irrelevant (or interchangeable), he will regard wholesale slaughter as his moral duty in the service of a “higher” good. It is the intrinsic theory of values that produces a Robespierre, a Lenin, a Stalin, or a Hitler.

            I knew I would come across one of your ilk sooner or later…and YOU are it.

          • isabella.simon@comcast.net

            there is a difference in actually knowing truth, and thinking you do.

          • Citizen Quasar

            Look who is talking.

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Nature imposed the burden on women you sick pervert.
            Remember, when the eugenicists come for you, you wanted it.

          • Gay Veteran

            oh here comes “Mr. Freedom” who thinks the government owns our bodies

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            And there’s a broken record occutard

          • Gay Veteran

            hi, Mr. DIShonorable

        • Malcolm Reynolds

          Weren’t you claiming you didn’t believe in abortion, liar?

          • Citizen Quasar

            Who? Me? No.

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            hence the reply not being to you.
            the pole smoker likes to deny he prefers abortion on days he forgets his anti-psychotic meds..
            You are clearly a true believer.

          • Gay Veteran

            and you are clearly the LIAR here.
            you said you were going to prove that I lie, STILL WAITING

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            OGL. Here’s the proof. Just answer the question.
            Are you pro or anti abortion?

          • Gay Veteran

            neither. I support a woman’s right to choose since it is NOT my decision nor that of the government.

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            That’s as disingenuous as it is dishonest. LIAR.

          • Gay Veteran

            awwww, the troll learned some “d” words, how cute

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Coincidentally, those words also happen to align with “truth”. You should seek that out. And the definition of troll, because that one eludes you often.

          • Gay Veteran

            says the troll who boasted he was going to prove me to be a liar.
            STILL WAITING

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            I did. Many times over.
            Your keen “laywer” skills gave you the masterfully crafted defense rebuttal of ‘NUUUUU UHHHHHH’.
            I’m sure you sweep a courtroom every time you’re in one. …idiot.

          • Gay Veteran

            have you had a stroke?
            many times? LIAR
            but I bet you consider yourself to be a good Christian, just ignore all that bearing false witness stuff

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Nah. I’m ok. I think I can live with your accusations of bearing false witness. LOL. back here in reality….

          • Gay Veteran

            of course you can live with it, you’re a dishonorable creature

          • Gay Veteran

            your keen troll skills continue to leave you delusional

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Meanwhile, back here in reality, trolling is your thing. See, you’re the opposition on this site.
            I noticed that you’re now completely ignoring your whole outlaws contraception lies.
            I take it you managed to get on over to the link and read something primary sourced. Good job poopy pants.

          • Gay Veteran

            as usual you haven’t
            proved jacksh it

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            As usual, I provided a link that proved you’re a liar. That prop said NOTHING about contraception, let alone outlawing it.
            And as usual, you quickly walked away from the conversation until reminded, and now you’re sitting there going NUUUUUU UHHHHHHHH. LIAR!
            You have no integrity.

          • Gay Veteran

            so let’s get this straight, I found a website that says X and then you found a website that says Y.
            so once AGAIN you
            PROVED jackshi t

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            No idiot. You found a website of some dolt saying something about the bill.
            I found a website that QUOTED THE TEXT OF THE BILL.

            It’s not like it was even hard either, it was only a dozen or so words.

            I dunno why I bother. You’re clearly too stupid to understand the difference. So once again, Yea, I proved it and you stood there with man meat on your chin going NUUUU UHHHHHH.

            ….LIAR!

          • Gay Veteran

            hey Einstein, was the proposed law so broad that it could ban some contraceptives? didn’t answer that question did you

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Good grief you’re stupid. You’ve gone back to that!? It’s amazing you can breathe without a respirator.

            I’m done here. You’re just gonna have to settle for being called a LIAR because you keep claiming stuff that just isn’t so.

          • Gay Veteran

            how interesting, your link doesn’t work. FIGURES
            and oh noez, an activist right-wing judge would never interpret a law as banning contraceptives.

            LOL, in other words you LOST YET AGAIN.

            Liar? PROJECT MUCH???

          • Gay Veteran

            man meat on the chin? sounds like you’re just another right-wing closet case

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            I’m out in the open right-wing.
            You’re out in the open man meat on your chin. See: Your name.

            LIAR.

          • Gay Veteran

            man meat on the chin? that is really on your mind a lot. PROJECT MUCH?

          • Gay Veteran

            you are truly lame. every time your as s gets beat you scream LIAR.
            utterly pathetic

          • Gay Veteran

            you are utterly without honor. previously you said you were going to prove that I lied then FAILED to do so

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            LMAO!

          • Gay Veteran

            a decent person would have apologized.
            nuff said

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            So you’re against abortion now? That’s what I claimed and what you denied you dumb sack of butt squirt.

          • Gay Veteran

            butt squirt? awwwww, don’t drag your mother into this!

        • Wayne Chipman

          These sick women Kill their babies as a Blood Sacrifice to Lucifer.
          None will give up their Baby for adoption once they decide to murder their child.
          You Sick Qu33r what gives anyone the right to murder an innocent Baby.

          • Gay Veteran

            and now our resident BIGOT shows up

          • Gay Veteran

            If you like babies so much then go adopt a few, sc*m bag

      • Citizen Quasar

        First of all, what is a right? Will you define one please? Second of all, a fetus becomes a baby when the umbilical cord is cut, or in rare case when a placental birth occurs, and NOT a second before.

        It is true that a fetus is a potential baby. However, a fetus is NOT an actual baby. There is a difference between a potential and an actuality. The living take precedence over the dead and the unborn.

        • Kim

          A fetus is an actual baby. Since the advent of the ultra sound, we have the ability to peer into a womb and see the baby as it live comfortably and exists in its warm little environment.

          Your argument is outdated. Medical
          technology continues to prove the pro abortion folks wrong.

          • Citizen Quasar

            I just posted a 999 word response to this and it says “pending.” This is the third comment by me in this thread that this web site is censoring. That’s how this site wins debates and discussions. What a load of…

          • Gay Veteran

            well that “actual baby” is incapable of living outside the woman’s body

          • TheVetHeCould’veBeen

            Wrong again. Premies survive all the time, nowadays. Time to pull your head out of the…

          • Gay Veteran

            and the younger ones?
            failed freshman biology, eh

        • Conscience

          You are ill-informed and really don’t know what you’re talking about.

          • Citizen Quasar

            Go look in a mirror.

    • Roman1

      Those so-called anatomic parts of a woman’s body happen to have a different DNA than the woman. There truly is no hope for a nation that God has given over to its sins.

      • Citizen Quasar

        Half of the DNA in a zygote is of the woman…so you bringing this up is irrelevant.

        “God” is a figment of your imagination. Gods are superstitious beliefs that contradict every principle that reality and reason are based upon. They require a rejection of reason altogether and reason is mankind’s absolute natural tool of survival. Gods require magic to exist and to trump science. Gods require reality to be a haunted house and reality is NOT a haunted house. Most people who believe in gods only do so because the people around them do and they just want to not go against the herd.

        • Conscience

          Speaking of herd mentality and groupthink, your posts ominously portray just that. I’m fearful for you, for your dark future.

          • Citizen Quasar

            Au contraire! My arguments are consistently and without contradiction syllogistically connected to the three axioms of Objectivism:

            1. Existence exists.
            2. I am conscious.
            3. A is A; a thing is what a thing is.

            I am an Objectivism, dealing with objective reality. Objectivism is the philosophy of Ayn Rand. Objectivism stands starkly against things like “herd mentality,” “groupthink,” and collectivism. It is your outlook on life that is clouded and NOT mine.

    • Citizen Quasar

      Note: Some of my responses, politely worded, are being censored and will NOT post. This happens to me often when I post on faithist sites and in favor of women’s rights to their own physical bodies. This is the way faithists reason and show their love for humanity.

      • WM

        Stop whining. I get much worse treatment when I visit liberal, progressive, anti- Bible, websites.

        Advice:

        If you don’t like it, leave! Simple huh?

        • Citizen Quasar

          One must never fail to pronounce moral judgment. That is why I am here. As a matter of fact, I have NO idea what website this even is. I am just posting on DISQUS.

          I ended up here by following the “read more” link on Infowars dot com. I would have posted there but they have banned me because they can NOT refute my arguments.

          I suspect the same will happen here because force, the initiation of physical force, is a corollary of faith and is the only real argument available to faithists because they have, one and all, rejected reason.

          • Conscience

            Such misguided, self-praising arrogance. Projected superiority is the converse of a deep sense of inferiority. When you stop learning, you stop growing. You got stuck way back there, somewhere. This is not necessary. Keep going.

          • Citizen Quasar

            I do NOT know everything, but what I do know I KNOW.

    • WM

      The Bible disagrees with your presupposition regarding “when” a fetus is considered a human being.

      We will all find out what position is correct, the Bible or your view on life, abortion, etc.

      Would you consider the possibility that you could wrong? Or is possibility completely out of the question????

      • Citizen Quasar

        “The Bible disagrees with your presupposition regarding “when” a fetus is considered a human being.”

        The Bible is a fictitious mind control document originally published by the government of Rome after the Council of Nicaea to standardize thought patterns within its populations. So I really don’t care what the Bible says about what a human is.

        “Would you consider the possibility that you could wrong? Or is possibility completely out of the question????”

        Yes. No.

        • Conscience

          Wow, your knowledge about the Bible, and history, is very limited. You really should research a great deal before speaking such things. A free thinker doesn’t merely parrot another’s views. I’m embarrassed for you for such emphatic yet ignorant statements about things you really don’t know about. Even some knowledgeable (“higher education elitist) far-left liberals wouldn’t say such things, even though they otherwise share your position. That’s because they are better informed about the facts of history, theology, and social/political science.

          Also, if we are wrong about the Bible, and you are right, we all have nothing to worry about. But if YOU are wrong, your future is as black as can be. Tread wisely thru life. Peace.

          • Citizen Quasar

            “Wow, your knowledge about the Bible, and history, is very limited. You really should research a great deal before speaking such things. A free thinker doesn’t merely parrot another’s views. I’m embarrassed for you for
            such emphatic yet ignorant statements bout things you really don’t know about. Even some knowledgeable (“higher education elitist) far-left liberals wouldn’t say such things, even though they otherwise share your position. That’s because they are better informed about the facts of history, theology, and social/political science.”

            I was brought up a Christian attending church almost every week until I was 18. I have two uncles who are actually Christian ministers; one is a church Deacon. I willfully was a Christian for many years. I have read the Bible twice from cover to cover and I have memorized many passages. I will stack my knowledge of Christianity against yours any time and anywhere. It is YOU who are ignorant of the Bible and Christianity.

            “Also, if we are wrong about the Bible, and you are right, we all have nothing to worry about. But if YOU are wrong, your future is as black as can be. Tread wisely thru life. Peace.”

            Here, you try to scare me with the fear that your imaginary god will subject me to everlasting eternal torture and pain where “men weep and gnash their teeth.” This is using terror as a means of persuasion and shows that you are, at heart, a terrorist.

            This imaginary eternal torture and amnation that you proffer in order to control my mind with fear is what your imaginary god will inflict in the name of infinite love. This contradicts the very definition of love. What is demonstrably hate and rejection of reasoned life and existence is what you pretend is love. It would be much more accurate if you just admit that you hate reason, that you hate reality, that you seek death.

      • Conscience

        WM, Jesus said not to cast your pearls before swine. This might be one of those cases.

    • SilverWolf64

      I hate to say this, but if I remember correctly from psychology when we talked about fetus development, by the end of the first month to the second month of being inside the womb the fetus has a detectable heartbeat. How can it not be considered a living being at that point? It feeds from the mother, has a heart beat, and other organs have began forming as well.

      At this point it is hard not to call it murder, because that thing in the womb, is a baby whether or not you call it that. and it is in fact a living being.

      • Citizen Quasar

        I hate to say this, but if I remember correctly from
        psychology when we talked about fetus development, by the end of the first month to the second month of being inside the womb the fetus has a detectable heartbeat.

        “How can it not be considered a living being at that point?”

        It is NOT a “being.” A being has to be a separate and independently growing UNIT. This heart grows as part of the woman. In effect, she has two hearts at this time. This second heart that you pretend is belongs to another being grows as part of her own body. It is alive, yes. So are the woman’s stomach, kidneys, and (other) heart.

        “It feeds from the mother, has a heart beat, and other organs have began forming as well.”

        It exists solely and exclusively as part of the woman’ body surviving exclusively off of nutrients fed to it by her own blood that she put into her own mouth and swallowed through her own throat and digested inside her own stomach. It is a PART of the woman and continues to be a PART of her
        physical body until the umbilical cord is cut at which point it becomes a separate anatomic unit. It has NO thoughts at all while in the womb. It has NO mind. It exists only as a potential and NOT as an actual.

        “At this point it is hard not to call it murder,”

        At this point it is very easy NOT to call it murder because there is simply nothing there to murder. A fetus is and anatomic organic part of a woman’s body and a woman getting an abortion is merely her exercising her right to do what she wants to with her own body which is her most intimate
        personal property.

        “because that thing in the womb, is a baby whether or not you call it that.”

        It is a baby in the sense that it is a POTENTIAL baby and NOT and actual baby. A potential is NOT an actual.

        “and it is in fact a living being.”

        A baby must first be a human being. “That thing in the womb” is neither a being, because it is NOT an independent anatomic unit and it exists only as part of the woman surviving exclusively as a part of her body, and it is NOT human because it has NO mind, a mind being required to qualify it as human. It is neither; it is merely a non-thinking part of the woman’s body.

        • Citizen Quasar

          At this point, I must mention that you anti-abortionists are making things up in your minds that exist only in your imagination and are completely disconnected from the reality that exists outside of your imaginations.

          What you are imagining is based on your emotive whims and is NOT reasoned. You contradict basic definitions and instead of reasoning through how these contradict the evidence of your senses, you replace the evidence of your senses with your imagined “reality.”

          This is a form of psychosis common to all mystics, including Christians.

    • http://www.nrk.no/ Birger Skruddusvingen

      “A woman getting an abortion is merely that woman exercising her right to do whatever she wants to with her own body which is her most intimate personal property and without property rights there are NO rights.”

      Rather exercising her right to do whatever she wants to with someone else’s own body which is their most intimate personal property and without property rights there are NO rights.

      • Citizen Quasar

        “Rather exercising her right to do whatever she wants to with someone else’s own body”

        There is NO body. There is NO someone else.

  • jimmy

    There’s no hope for America the Babylon, America will be destroyed in the end by God, revelation 17 and 18.

    • Citizen Quasar

      Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics.

      Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.

      Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures.

      “God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”

      You claim that you perceive a mode of being superior to my existence on this earth. The mystics of spirit call it “another dimension,” which consists of denying dimensions. To exist is to possess identity. What identity are you able to give to your superior realm? You keep telling me what it is not,
      but never tell you what it is. All your identifications consist of negating: God is that which no human mind can know, you say—and proceed to demand that I consider it knowledge—God is non-man, heaven is non-earth, soul is non-body, virtue is non-profit, A is non-A, perception is non-sensory, knowledge is non-reason. Your definitions are
      NOT acts of defining, but of wiping out.

      • FirstGarden

        My background is metaphysics, mind science, Hinduism, Rosicrucianism, and I have to say that you are incorrect.

        “Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a
        false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct
        metaphysics.”

        Metaphysics is a set of impersonal principles. God is a matter of relationship.

        Do you possess ALL KNOWLEDGE?
        Any humble realist would say, “No”.
        God can very well exist outside of your knowledge.

        Nor is God dependent upon a metaphysical logic system in order to validate His existence. To say that He is, is to limit yourself by your own finite understanding. As truth seekers, it is incumbent on us to examine all the evidences life presents to us.

        Sorry, but even at the most basic philosophical premise, your statement does not stand.

      • FirstGarden

        “Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.”

        You misunderstand. “Nothing” pertained to the physical universe, when God spoke it into being.

        Uni – verse = one sentence.

      • FirstGarden

        “Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in
        accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their
        natures.”

        Again, you misunderstand. God in omnipotent, as in all-powerful, or “Almighty God.” That does not mean He can do “anything.” He cannot un-BE Himself, or annihilate His own existence. He cannot make a rock so big that He can’t pick it up.
        You’re more intelligent than this, and such questions do not do your intelligence justice.

      • FirstGarden

        ““God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every
        valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the
        Judeo-Christian concept of God. ”

        This is a rather subjective statement. I’m sure you know what you mean. But it doesn’t come across very clear, objectively.

        Suffice it to say, if Jehovah/Yahweh is infinite, then how does that NOT encompass, and even supersede, all metaphysical principles? Your statements appear far more assertion than an honest, open-minded assessment of life, in all its possibilities. Again, philosophically speaking, there seems to be no fair treatment. How can you justly define God out of existence by a mere set of metaphysical principles?

        “No argument will get you from this world
        to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world
        contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap
        from existence to a ‘super-existence.'”

        What META-physics are you talking about? Metaphysics IMPLIES beyond or above the laws of physics. Some of the greatest metaphysical teachers would surely disagree with you – Emmet Fox, Mary Baker Eddy..

        Metaphysics does not contradict this world. Rather it operates on higher principles that supersede or transcend natural law.

      • FirstGarden

        “You claim that you perceive a mode of being superior to my existence on
        this earth.”

        If I take your meaning, yes, a Higher Being or Power is entirely within the realm of possibilities. No offense meant, but your views, in their presentation, sound more dogmatic than that of those Christians. Theirs is at least in keeping with that of an honest and thorough examining of the evidences, thru the application of sound logic and direct experience.

        A lover of truth does not fear Truth (come what may), but only in being deceived.

        “The mystics of spirit call it “another dimension,” which
        consists of denying dimensions.”

        Say what? Who said there cannot be other dimensions??

        “To exist is to possess identity. What
        identity are you able to give to your superior realm?”

        Fallacy in logic, friend. Does God need YOUR permission to exist? Does HIS existence depend on your awareness or knowledge of Him?? Or is it the reverse logic – that He only exists as “a God of our own making?”

        Or is it that you are your OWN god, in accordance to exalted humanism?

      • FirstGarden

        “You keep telling me what it is not,
        but never tell you what it is.
        All your identifications consist of negating: God is that which no human
        mind can know, you say—and proceed to demand that I consider it
        knowledge..”

        I’m surprised at how uninformed and little-studied you are.

        God is indeed knowable. That does not mean that a finite mind can conceive or “grok” that of an Infinite Mind. Just as a young child cannot understand the mind of a mature adult, can can certainly communicate, relate, and embrace — in essence, knowing by relationship.

        By the way, an impersonal set of metaphysical principles has nothing to do with a relationship with God, Who is spirit. And, as Jesus said, “Those who worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth.”

        And, in holy writ is says, “And without faith it is impossible to please God, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who seek Him.”

        ” —God is non-man, heaven is non-earth”

        Messiah said to pray this way:

        “Our Father who is in heaven,
        Hallowed be Your name.
        Your kingdom come.
        Your will be done,
        On earth as it is in heaven.”

        Yes, Heaven is not earth. But in the fulness of God’s purposes, the earth will eventually come into alignment with the will and purposes of God. It is a progression, not a denial of existence. Nor are they mutually exclusive, (or mutually non-existent.)

        “soul is non-body,”

        Jesus said, “Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul;
        but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.”

        While this is a difficult statement, it should give pause to any thinking individual.

      • FirstGarden

        “virtue is non-profit”

        Virtue means non-profit?
        Vice means profit?

        “A is non-A,”

        I know what you mean here, but A is indeed a Substance, not an absence, entirely independent of another’s perception or acknowledgement of existence.

        “perception is non-sensory,”

        Perception is indeed sensory. And you can, indeed, sense God’s presence, hear His voice in your conscience, in your heart, as a demonstrable, existential reality.

        If you have never experienced this for yourself, that doesn’t preclude the reality of it.

        “knowledge is non-reason.”

        Now, here’s where you are really incorrect.

        Knowledge is indeed in accordance to reason. You’ve been listening to the wrong people.

        “Your definitions are NOT acts of defining, but of wiping out.”

        There are far too many definitions of Christianity. And of God, both known and experienced in this world, and believed upon in the next.

        The world doesn’t need a new definition of God, but rather new new demonstration.

        Obviously, I cannot prove his existence to you with words. Nor can you prove His “non-existence.”

        The only thing I can expect of you is what I expect of myself. You owe it to yourself. “Examine all things, and hold fast to what is true.” Love truth. Love truth above all else, above peer pressure, above culture constraints, above personal preference, above being right, even above what feels comfortable at times.

        This alone has has guided me out of deception.

  • Kim

    Apparently he doesn’t recognize a quote when he sees one, I give up. Are people really this stupid? I love these articles but the comments, sheesh!!!!

    • Tim

      Yup. :-)

    • http://www.nrk.no/ Birger Skruddusvingen

      “Are people really this stupid?”

      Yes, some are… and some are even stupider.

  • Carl Smuck

    Do any of you ever wonder how many unborn babies have been murdered through the use of all of the methods of birth control? You can sure bet that it is much higher than the number of babies who have been aborted since 1973.

    • Gay Veteran

      ah yes, the fundamentalists not only oppose abortion but also birth control

      • Carl Smuck

        If you were a straight man and married the bible forbids touching your wife during her bloody period. The Pope thinks that it is OK for a man to touch his wife during her bloody period when it is impossible for her to become pregnant. This is called killing babies with the rhythm method.

      • Malcolm Reynolds

        cite that poll or freshly proposed law please.

        • Gay Veteran

          you know, there’s this little tool called Google.
          be a good monkey and stop tossing your s**t around and use it

          • t

            Would you like some toilet paper for your head?

          • Gay Veteran

            why, are you going to take some off your head?

          • t

            We keep a lot of toilet paper around here, considering where your head has been.

            But, in your case, it’s a unique situation, in that, your head is sooooo far up, that it pops through the side of your neck, goes back down, then back up and loops through several times. A strange sight indeed.

          • t

            Well now, like it or not, ya gotta admit that was funny.

          • Gay Veteran

            so you keep toilet paper for people you haven’t met.
            man that is weird even for a troll

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            so, in other words you’re talking out your a$$.

            You made the claim moron.

          • Gay Veteran

            “…In Mississippi, a ballot initiative, Measure 26 (The Personhood Amendment), would have, if passed (it fortunately did not) defined zygotes, embryos—even a fertilized egg—as a person…IUDs, birth control pills and other forms of contraception would have become illegal….”

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            oops. the law defined a person and effectively outlawed abortion. Not what you claimed. LIAR!

            Here’s the text

            SECTION 33. Person defined. As used in this Article III of the state constitution, “The term ‘person’ or ‘persons’ shall include every human being from the moment of fertilization, cloning or the functional equivalent thereof.

          • Gay Veteran

            jeez, can’t you even read?!?!?!?

            “…In Mississippi, a ballot initiative, Measure 26 (The Personhood Amendment), would have, if passed (it fortunately did not) defined zygotes, embryos—even a fertilized egg—as a person…IUDs, birth control pills AND OTHER FORMS OF CONTRACEPTION would have become illegal….”

      • Conscience

        Not all Christians are opposed to contraception. If the pollywog never finds the ovumpod, then no hard is done, since nothing is conceived.

        Now, if a contraceptive method involves death after conception, that’s another matter, and one worthy of discussion.

        • Gay Veteran

          “…Now, if a contraceptive method involves death after conception, that’s another matter, and one worthy of discussion.”

          says the man who wants to turn women into slaves

          • Conscience

            You are so asinine, that deep inside, even YOU know it!!

          • Gay Veteran

            your name should be UNconscience

    • Citizen Quasar

      It is impossible to murder something that has never been born.

      • Conscience

        You should be glad that you were not put to death in the womb. Such statements are an affront and an insult to the sanctity of life.

        • Citizen Quasar

          Demanding that a woman submit her body to the public control of people like you is an insult to the sanctity of life.

          • Conscience

            No wonder this world is so messed up. We’re talking about human life in the womb, killed for personal convenience. And far too many women have suffered a great deal after having abortions, over the loss of their baby, the psychological effects, physiological effects, and the pangs of conscience.

            You bought into the whole smoke screen of “women’s choice” over their bodies – which is really the choice to terminate human life. So, in the attempt to justify this atrocity, the humanists must argue for non-viability, which, btw, has been demonstrably false as well. Countless “premies” have survived quite well. Have you really looked at the whole matter? The big picture? Or is it just about “being right”?

            Your thinking is truly perverse.

            I’m gonna give you the last word here, because there’s no talking to you. You’re too highminded and have no desire to learn. Therefore, you cannot grow.

          • Citizen Quasar

            No wonder this world is so messed up.

            “We’re talking about human life in the womb, killed for personal convenience.”

            We are talking about the difference between a potentiality and an actuality. A potential human is NOT an actual human. A potential human does NOT have thoughts or emotions. In the earlier stages of pregnancy, a potential human does NOT even have a brain or a spinal column or even a body
            and yet you anti-abortionists call it an actual human being.

            “And far too many women have suffered a great deal after having abortions, over the loss of their baby, the psychological effects, physiological effects, and the pangs of
            conscience.”

            And with this ad hoc and haphazard statement is what you proffer as a moral sanction to violate the rights of women. When you violate someone’s rights, you are doing a wrong and you are committing a crime.

            “You bought into the whole smoke screen of “women’s choice” over their bodies – which is really the choice to terminate human life.”

            Here again you have detached yourself from reality and have imagined things. You imagine that a part of a woman’s body, a zygote, embryo, or fetus, is somehow independent and superior to the woman. You do this NOT because it is actually so but simply because you refuse to accurately analyise the situation; you refuse to reason through your stale emotions.

            “Have you really looked at the whole matter?”

            Yes. It is precisely because I have done so that I have reached such conclusions.

            “The big picture?”

            Yes.

            “Or is it just about “being right”?”

            It is about what is true, that women have rights to their own physical bodies and that anti-abortionists seek to violate those rights.

            Your thinking is truly perverse.

            I’m gonna give you the last word here, because there’s no talking to you. You’re too highminded and have no desire to learn. Therefore, you cannot grow.

      • Conscience

        Murder is killing, premeditated. You assume that birth equals life.. and that prior to that doorway, there is no life. This sort of thinking is strange and alien to common sense and humanity.

        • Citizen Quasar

          “Murder is killing, premeditated.”
          No; murder is killing without a moral sanction to kill.Otherwise a military preparing for a known attack would be guilty of murder. Your sort of thinking is strange and alien to common sense and humanity.

          “You assume that birth equals life.. and that prior to that doorway, there is no life.”
          No I do NOT. I deduce that at birth a living fetus becomes a living being, a living human being. A fetus is certainly alive. It is just as alive as the other parts of the woman’s body are alive, including her stomach, pancreas, and appendix.

          “This sort of thinking is strange and alien to common sense and humanity.”
          My thinking is what is called “logic” and it is alien to anti-abortionists because logic is reason and anti-abortionists reject reason as a mode of thinking, preferring instead to be Unreasonable. My thinking is the very definition of common sense.

          • Conscience

            “I deduce that at birth a living fetus becomes a living being, a living human being.”

            And prior to birth they’re not?

            And prior to birth they’re NOT a human being??

            “My thinking is what is called “logic” and it is alien to
            anti-abortionists because logic is reason and anti-abortionists reject
            reason as a mode of thinking, preferring instead to be Unreasonable.

            You display woeful ignorance of truth when you say this. In truth, most pro-lifers and very reasonable, conscionable and responsible thinkers.

            My
            thinking is the very definition of common sense.

            For one, this comes across as rather self-exalting and quite arrogant.

            All you say is contrary to conscience, and also holy writ.
            I’d rather listen to them.

          • Citizen Quasar

            “I deduce that at birth a living fetus becomes a
            living being, a living human being.”

            And prior to birth they’re not?

            Exactly.

            And prior to birth they’re NOT a human being??

            Exactly.

            “My thinking is what is called “logic” and it is
            alien to

            anti-abortionists because logic is reason and anti-abortionists reject

            reason as a mode of thinking, preferring instead to be Unreasonable.

            “You display woeful ignorance of truth when you say
            this. In truth, most pro-lifers and very reasonable, conscionable and
            responsible thinkers.”

            In truth, anti-abortionists do NOT use reason but
            speak from emotive whim, using emotions as tools of cognition which they are
            NOT. Anti-abortionists seek to enslave all women everywhere in the name of “pro-life.”
            Anti-abortionists think that women are stock animals unworthy of possessing their
            own bodies. Anti-abortionists are pro-death…pro-tyranny.

            “For one, this comes across as rather self-exalting
            and quite arrogant.”

            It is true and I should be exalted for saying it. You
            anti-abortionists should be condemned for the freedom haters and right haters
            that you are.

            “All you say is contrary to conscience,”

            Everything I say is said with a clear conscience and with
            moral right.

            “and
            also holy writ. I’d rather listen to them.”

            Holy
            writ is superstition and myth and talks of things that exist ONLY in your
            imagination. What you are saying is that you will listen to your imagination
            rather than the evidence of your senses; you will purposefully detach yourself
            from reality and retreat into the fantasy world of your mind.

          • Conscience

            Please keep speaking. All you say is a powerful refutation unto itself, against all you believe. It’s right in the store window for all to see.

            If you could suddenly see a cutaway view of the condition of your soul, you would be very frightened.

            Jesus, said, “Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.”

            No one can refute you better than you – meaning your attitude, your severe dogma, your blame-shifting/ reverse psychology, your ridiculous even comical self-congratulatory manner, your demeanor, your spirit, and your angry parroting of another’s views.

            Yes, another’s views, because you’re too intelligent (I assume) to be coming up with this limited, small-minded, perverse, twisted, bottomfeeding – gutter ideation on your own.

  • Gay Veteran

    “#9 An all-time high 59 percent of all Americans believe that the traditional definition of marriage needs to be changed.?
    you mean the religious definition (one of many since there are those who believe in polygamy, just like in the bible).

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      “marriage equality” Is a lie. It’s a redefinition of a biblical covenant. But then you knew that, liar.

      • Gay Veteran

        hey Einstein, you have to get a CIVIL marriage license

        • Areyou4real?

          Of course, being civil is a huge assumption.

          • Gay Veteran

            logic fail

          • Areyou4real?

            Moral fail.

          • Gay Veteran

            brays the pharisee

          • Conscience

            Croaks out the ogre.

          • Gay Veteran

            oh noez, an orge

    • Conscience

      Not so. The hyper-liberal media wields vast influence. Public opinion is bought & sold. Judges can be bribed. The real truth issues are evaluated by looking into your heart, not by those around you.

      Reason vs. Interest

      As for harm, there are no small amount of gays who have repented and went straight. They looked into their own hearts, usually before God, and saw the self-centered shallowness of their reasoning – a reasoning that is really just interest, looking for reasons to “justify” one’s perversion.

      • Gay Veteran

        There is no “hyper-liberal media”, only the corporate media.
        “…Judges can be bribed….” proof please

        “…As for harm, there are no small amount of gays who have repented and went straight. They looked into their own hearts, usually before God, and saw the self-centered shallowness of their reasoning – a reasoning that is really just interest, looking for reasons to “justify” one’s perversion.”
        spoken like the small minded Talban wannabe you are

        • Conscience

          Not open-minded but stuck on stupid.
          God help you!

          • Gay Veteran

            yes, you are not open-minded, but definitely stuck on stupid

          • Conscience

            Well, that was a cheap shot. Can’t you at least come up with your own lines?

          • Gay Veteran

            cheap shot? read your own post

  • Gay Veteran

    “#16 Speaking of Planned Parenthood, more than 56 million American babies have been slaughtered in this country since Roe v. Wade was decided in 1973.”

    just think, we would have an even worse unemployment problem with another 56, 000,000 people

    • Carl Smuck

      If you are a man and have sexual relations with another man you are murdering a child the same way you would be if you would be doing if you were with a woman and using the rhythm method. Plus, you are harming yourself and the person you are committing the unnatural acts with.

      • Gay Veteran

        I think you would be more comfortable living with others who believe as you do. try Saudi Arabia

        • James Godson

          Christians who believe that sodomy is a sin extend God’s New Testament love for you by hating the sin but loving those who are caught up in a behavior that demands death in the Old Testament and in modern-day Muslim countries. I don’t recommend that you try Saudi Arabia. I too believe we all would be more comfortable living with others who believe as we do, so please vote for Christians to be allowed to form new Christian nations inside the US where we will be free to live in God’s blessings – the same blessings that originally made the United States so wonderful.

          • Gay Veteran

            why would I vote for “Christians” to form a theocratic dictartorship???

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            strawman. An open Christian serving in govt is not a theocracy just as faggots serving in govt doesn’t make us Sodom.

          • Gay Veteran

            oh noez, Mr. Potty Mouth is off his meds again.

          • Conscience

            Deep inside, you must really hate yourself.

          • Gay Veteran

            wow, project much?

          • Conscience

            You know you do. It’s impossible to treat others like you do, and have any self-respect whatsoever.

            It all stems from a horrible self-image, sugarcoated with a false sense of superiority over others. How else can an insecure ego survive?

          • Gay Veteran

            awwww, what’s wrong? mommy didn’t bring Mr. Smug any cookies in your basement?

          • Conscience

            Ha! That was almost funny.

          • Gay Veteran

            “…It all stems from a horrible self-image, sugarcoated with a false sense of superiority over others….”

            as I said, project much?

          • Conscience

            Wow, you obviously don’t know what you are talking about. Christ said his Kingdom is not of this world. True Christianity, as salt and light in the world, are to exercise spiritual authority — by influence and persuasion — not official authority by coercion and control.

            May I suggest you research more before publishing your opinions?

          • Gay Veteran

            may I suggest you learn how to read?
            was I talking about Christ? no, I was talking about certain fundamentalists who do want a theocratic dictatorship

          • TheVetHeCould’veBeen

            The very ones (Christians) who helped bring about such freedom – freedom for all – is hated & despised by the very recipients of that freedom.

            This is consistent with poor character qualities.

        • aghast

          How could you be so ignorant? They kill gays over there. Here, they’re free to live as they wish. Who do you think GAVE you that freedom??

          The founding fathers, who operated within the Christian consensus.
          Certainly not the Muslims.

          • Gay Veteran

            I see sarcasm is wasted on some people.
            and I was responding to Smuck, not you.
            the Founding Fathers didn’t give anybody freedom because we are born free

          • aghast

            How nonconstructive for you to say.

            God gives us our freedoms, and mankind takes them away. But, some ideologies set the stage for that freedom better. We have the Christians and (like it or not, Freemasons to thank for that.) What if Hitler wrote our constitution? Or some other Ayran like the Ayatoilet in Iran, where they drop stone walls on our gay friends. Where would you be then???

            The founding fathers were not haters.

          • Gay Veteran

            well it took Christians over 1500 years.
            and some of the Founding Fathers were diests

      • Gay Veteran

        “If you are a man and have sexual relations with another man you are murdering a child the same way you would be if you would be doing if you were with a woman and using the rhythm method…..”

        guess you failed freshman biology

        • aghast

          GV – Perverse, twisted, illogical.

          Insanity proceeds from unsanitary.
          Same root word.

          • Gay Veteran

            awwww, little troll trying to be witty. FAIL

          • aghast

            Evil speaks again.
            Spread your moral filth elsewhere.

    • Carl Smuck

      Have you ever thought that some of those murdered babies might have grown up to be successful business owners and they could have greatly helped the US economy? Maybe there would be a few more Ted Cruz types in the US Senate which would be a great thing. Maybe God would be less displeased with this once great nation. The murder rate would be much smaller too. Legalized abortion has cheapened the value of human life. This is one of the reasons why the only thing holding back the murder rate from spiking much higher than it has is the 2nd Amendment. The birthrate in this country is below replacement and we have millions of illegal aliens coming into the country. Furthermore I have a problem with the illegals being treated better than real American citizens by the government.

      • Gay Veteran

        Have you ever thought that you are trying to turn women into slaves?
        Ted Cruz? talk about being light in the loafers, just like hucklefairy Graham

        • GoFigure

          “If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages or laughs, and there is no peace.”
          Proverbs 29:9

          • Gay Veteran

            “…’The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose….”

          • GoFigure

            You would know.
            Like father, like son.

          • Gay Veteran

            project much?

          • Hammerstrike

            “…’The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose….”

            Gee, I wonder why? Yaweh and Satan are the original bad cop good cop, if good is attention.seeking sociopath.

          • http://www.nrk.no/ Birger Skruddusvingen

            “If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages or laughs, and there is no peace.”

            I have noticed that.

        • Hammerstrike

          If they aren´t able to control themselves, end up pregnant despite not wanting to because they don´t know how to use something as simple as a pill or a condom then nothing is taken away from them, they already are slaves.

          • Gay Veteran

            logic FAIL

          • Hammerstrike

            On the contrary.

            Who is so dumb as not knowing how to use a pill?

          • Gay Veteran

            is the pill fail proof?

          • Hammerstrike

            It certainly fail when the woman was too dumb to take it or have some extra fun beside her boyfriend.

      • Citizen Quasar

        They are NOT babies. There is NO such thing as “God.” You people are so lame.

        • Malcolm Reynolds

          then what are they? separate DNA a heart beat. Produced from the fertility of two humans.
          So what are they then? I guess to you, some people just aren’t human. You’re a death camp leftist waiting to happen.

        • Areyou4real?

          Thus spake evil.

      • WM

        Remember, liberal like gay veteran abhor people like Ted Cruz.

        • Gay Veteran

          hey WM, let me give you a clue: he’s just another politician controlled by the banksters

          • AppalledAtEvil

            And who controls you??

            “ssssssssssssssssssssssssss.”

          • Gay Veteran

            sorry, I don’t speak troll

          • veteranforpeace

            No, you speak satanism.

          • Gay Veteran

            sorry, don’t speak your mother’s tongue

          • veteranforpeace

            Gay, let’s not go there. You can make fun of me all you like. (Even my father, my brothers, my sisters.)

            But no one touches THE MAMA.

            Not mine. Not yours. No one’s!

            Something has to be sacred in life. Can we at least agree on that?
            Let’s leave the mama out of this, okay? :-)

          • Gay Veteran

            ok, your sister’s tongue

          • veteranforpeace

            Ok then.

      • NoChip4Me

        One of those murdered babies might have been the one to figure a way out of this mess we’ve gotten ourselves into. Selfish people have a way of screwing themselves over in the long run.

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      And there you have it people.
      Leftists think mass murder is a solution to unemployment.

      • Gay Veteran

        says the retard who thinks the government owns our bodies

        • veteranforpeace

          You grease the wheels of decadence beautifully.

          • Gay Veteran

            you must be getting all tingly down there

          • veteranforpeace

            BTW, this is something you’re sure to know. And since you talk so much, maybe you’d care to share with the rest of us –

            How does Satan’s < ! @ % taste?

      • aghast

        Why should he care about the unborn, (including those sucked out of the womb at 9 months) when he doesn’t even care about himself. Cuz if he did care, he wouldn’t crawl so low.. to the destruction of his own soul.

        • Malcolm Reynolds

          He’s a low-info occutard. There isn’t much worth in him at all.

    • Areyou4real?

      Yeah, no rights for them. Only for ourselves. Screw them.

      • Gay Veteran

        if you’re so concerned then adopt a few babies

    • AppalledAtEvil

      Support the sodomites and murder the innocent babies. No wonder our nation is such a mess.

    • GoFigure

      With all the babies you can’t produce, I’d say it’s about a wash.

      • Gay Veteran

        I’ll pretend that made sense

  • Gay Veteran

    sounds like a dominionist theocracy

    • James Godson

      Dominion or Kingdom Theology is the belief that the ‘church’ or believers are required to proselytize the whole world before Jesus will return as the King. And no one knows when that might be, but believers congregating together in separate communities would be following the example of the original founders of each separate state. The Puritans in New England, William Penn leading the Quakers to form Pennsylvania, Roger Williams with the Anabaptists in Rhode Island, etc.
      The divide between Christians and all other religions and non-believers is widening leaving the only alternative of separating to allow each group to practice their own spiritual/moral code and receive the reward of their beliefs.

      • Gay Veteran

        you missed the point. there are a lot of “Christian” fundamentalists who want a theocratic dictatorship

        • James Godson

          The point is Christians already subscribe to living eternally in the Kingdom of God and non-believers don’t, so let each travel their own road to see what are the benefits.

          • Gay Veteran

            and some “Christians” believe in a theocratic dictatorship here on Earth

  • Ojr

    massachewshits is a commonwealth and not really part of the counrty

  • Squirreleo

    You can’t just take a bunch of crazy stories about crazy people and claim they represent a whole country

  • A Dodgy Bloke

    About the 17yo who’s suing her parents. How seriously narcissistic do you have to be to do something like that? I simply can’t wrap my mid around something that short sighted.

  • James Godson

    God has set a day when the entire human race will be judged and everything set right. And he has already appointed the judge, confirming him before everyone by raising him from the dead. God put the world square with himself through the Messiah,
    giving the world a fresh start by offering forgiveness of sins. This is how much God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son. God didn’t go to all the trouble of sending his Son merely to point an accusing finger, telling the world how bad it was. He came to help, to put the world right again. Anyone who trusts in him is acquitted; anyone who refuses to trust him has long since been under the death sentence without knowing it. And why? Because of that person’s failure to believe in the Son of God when introduced to him.

  • el guapo

    That sounds like an awesome concept but I checked the site and they’re just selling books. I already have plenty of books, thank you.

  • Lars Lonte

    Indeed, the Crash will Come! Economic Collapse http://www.usdeception.com/vsl/index.php

  • Kim

    But it is a living being, no? With the sentient ability to perceive and feel pain? Cognitive ability to perceive comfort? Love? Fear? Respond to gentle stimulus such as music, laughter or language?

    Actually, I would not intervene in any way to a woman’s legal right to kill her unborn baby. I do think the practice is barbaric and inhumane, but I wouldn’t intervene, so please don’t impose your conscience on me.

    • Citizen Quasar

      “But it is a living being, no? With the sentient
      ability to perceive and feel pain? Cognitive ability to perceive comfort? Love? Fear? Respond to gentle stimulus such as music, laughter or language?”

      No, no, no, no, no, and no. A blob of protoplasm is NOT a human being. An embryo with no spinal cord and looking like a frog is NOT a human being. A fetus, unconscious and having NO thoughts and a blank mind only looks like a human being yet it is a part of a woman’s body. It becomes a separate and independent biological UNIT when the umbilical cord is cut and NOT a second before.

      “Actually, I would not intervene in any way to a woman’s legal right to kill her unborn baby. I do think the practice is barbaric and inhumane, but I wouldn’t intervene, so please don’t impose your conscience on me.”

      An unborn baby is NOT an actual baby but is a potential baby. A potential baby only becomes an actual baby when the umbilical cord is cut and it becomes a separate anatomic unit. Killing a baby is murder. Killing a potential baby, a NON-baby, is an abortion and is merely a woman exercising her right to do whatever she wants to with her own body. Her own body is NOT public property and is NOT subject to public laws. Women are NOT stock animals.

  • WM

    So, killing a 5 month o l d “fetus” for example ( still in the womb) according to your logic would not be considered murder because ” it has not been born yet” ?????

    • Citizen Quasar

      Yes. Exactly.

  • Gay Veteran

    “…we’re naturally to assume that you want a secular humanism dictatorship ala Mao and Stalin, right?”
    wow, the MASTER strawman builder has arrived!

  • Gay Veteran

    awwwww, troll monkey found a website, ain’t that cute.

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      Yup. It’s really cute that you’re a liar and just don’t care.

      • Gay Veteran

        STILL WAITING to be proven a liar.
        nuff said

        • Malcolm Reynolds

          get over yourself moron. I claimed you were pro abortion and you are. so yea, you’re a liar.
          nuff said

          • Gay Veteran

            awwww, the Perry Mason wannabe troll is back

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            LOL, nuff said.

  • Gay Veteran

    good comments.

    “…Argument one, the bible states that marriage is one man and one woman….”

    well there is an awful lot of polygamy in the bible

  • Citizen Quasar

    “If you could suddenly see a cutaway view of the condition of your soul, you would be very frightened.”

    I have NO soul.

    I am beginning to suspect that you may just be a web bot programmed to solicit a response to every post. In any case, I have sufficiently pwned you and I see NO reason to respond to you anymore in this thread.

    • FirstGarden

      Whoa dude, this is reminiscent of ELP:

      Let the bridge computer speak

      Stranger!

      Load your program. I am yourself.

      No computer stands in my way

      Only blood can cancel my pain

      Guardians of a new clear dawn

      Let the maps of war be drawn.

      Rejoice! glory is ours!

      Our young men have not died in vain,

      Their graves need no flowers

      The tapes have recorded their names.

      I am all there is

      Negative! primitive! limited! I let you live!

      But I gave you life

      What else could you do?

      To do what was right

      I’m perfect! are you?

    • FirstGarden

      “I have NO soul.”

      Classic Marxist doctrine.

  • Citizen Quasar

    A right is a moral principle defining and sanctioning a man’s range of activity in a social environment and this right principle is that a man must never initiate the use of physical force in human interactions.

    If anyone who reads this knows of a better definition of a right then please post it.

    Also, if anyone knows of any definition of a right that the Founding Fathers wrote down, other that their enumeration of rights in the Bill of Rights, which are NO definitions at all, then please post that too.

    • FirstGarden

      Things to which you are entitled or allowed; freedoms that are guaranteed.

  • FirstGarden

    #7 Our financial system appears to be more corrupt than it ever has been before. And yet nobody ever seems to go to prison…

    That’s probably because of this scenario:

    “If turn me in, I’ll turn you in.” To many people are in on it together. And they gave the goods on each other, and are in bed with each other in one giant orgy.

    The new democracy is an oligarchy.

  • Hammerstrike

    #6 “The FDA is actually considering making it legal for doctors and scientists to create “three parent babies” in the United States.”

    That is interesting but evil? Nope.

  • Hammerstrike

    “A fetus/embryo./zygote is an anatomic part of a woman’s organic body ”

    That is factually false but you know that, don´t you?

    • Citizen Quasar

      It is factually true. How can you say it isn’t and expect anyone with two active brain cells to rub together to take you seriously?

      • Hammerstrike

        Coming from those with not enough self-control and intelligence to use a pill or condome? How rich!

        • Citizen Quasar

          The facts remain.

        • Citizen Quasar

          You are 1 of 3 things:

          1. An individual who speaks on their own behalf and has totally lost touch with reality.

          2. An individual who works for the Establishment.

          3. A web bot.

          • Hammerstrike

            All are very convenient explanations, don´t you think?
            Just like the claime that the fetus is part of the woman´s body despite it having its own DNA make-up, it means abortion isn´t killing, that way you won´t need to ask yourself a few questions that would trouble your pretty conscience.

            Too bad that establishement made abortion legal in the USA more than 40 years ago.

          • Citizen Quasar

            “All are very convenient explanations, don´t you think?”

            No; I think they are very precise definitions.

            “Just like the claime that the fetus is part of the woman´s body despite it
            having its own DNA make-up,…”

            A zygote/embryo/fetus is a part of a woman’s body and it does contain her DNA. The fact that it contains additional DNA does NOT change the fact that it is a part of her body.

            “…it means abortion isn´t killing,…”

            True to anti-abortionists deceptive and contradictory lack of reasoning, the DNA make-up of a zygote/embryo/fetus has zero causal connection to whether or not a woman getting an abortion involves killing. There is simply NO implication here one way or another. Killing a zygote/embryo/fetus is the moral equivalent of a woman having her appendix removed.

            “…that way you won´t
            need to ask yourself a few questions that would trouble your pretty conscience.”

            I ask myself questions all the time that trouble my conscience, which is VERY big by the way, and it is by seeking answers to these questions that I have arrived at the answers that not only satisfy but are in agreement with objective reality.

            “Too bad that establishement made abortion legal in the USA more than 40 years ago.”

            Yes, too bad.

          • http://www.nrk.no/ Birger Skruddusvingen

            “Killing a zygote/embryo/fetus is the moral equivalent of a woman having her appendix removed.”

            Yes, if the appendix had any possibility whatsoever to grow up to be an adult, living human being.

          • Citizen Quasar

            “Yes, if the appendix had any possibility whatsoever to grow up to be an adult, living human being.”

            This potential does NOT change the essential nature of the life of the fetus, which is a part of the woman’s body, a mindless part. The fact that it is a part of her body is what gives her the right to do whatever she wants to with it as it is part of her most intimate personal property and without property rights there are NO rights.

            Your error in reasoning here is that you refuse to realize that a potential is NOT an actual. This error by you may be expressed thus: “Since a worm has a possibility to mutate or evolve into an intelligent species, it is immoral to put that worm on a fishhook.”

  • FirstGarden

    “If there is no absolute moral standard, then one cannot say in a final sense that anything is right or wrong. By absolute we mean that which always applies, that which provides a final or ultimate standard.

    There must be an absolute if there are to be morals, and there must be an absolute if there are to be real values. If there is no absolute beyond man’s ideas, then there is no final appeal to judge between individuals and groups whose moral judgements conflict. We are merely left with
    conflicting opinions.”
    – Francis Schaeffer

  • Ben

    You are talking about humanly things. God is God. He is not bound by what we are. He can reverse the laws of physics and anything he wants because he created it!!! You need Christ, Citizen Quasar. The end is very close. There will be an antichrist and he will be the last human ruler to ever grace the earth. The final ruler will be Jesus Christ reining in Jerusalem AMONG HIS PEOPLE.

    • Citizen Quasar

      “You are talking about humanly things. God is God.”

      Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to Him rests on a
      false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct
      metaphysics.

      Is God the creator of the universe? There can be no creation of something out of nothing. There is no nothing.

      Is God omnipotent? Can he do anything? Entities can act only in accordance with their natures; nothing can make them violate their natures.

      “God” as traditionally defined is a systematic contradiction of every valid metaphysical principle. The point is wider than just the Judeo-Christian concept of God. No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a “super-existence.”

      You claim that you perceive a mode of being superior to my existence on this earth. The mystics of spirit call it “another dimension,” which consists of denying dimensions. To exist is to possess identity. What identity are you able to give to your superior realm? You keep telling me what it is not, but never tell you what it is. All your identifications consist of negating: God is that which no human mind can know, you say—and proceed to demand that I consider it knowledge—God is non-man, heaven is non-earth, soul is non-body, virtue is non-profit, A is non-A, perception is non-sensory, knowledge is non-reason. Your definitions are NOT acts of defining, but of wiping out.

      “He is not bound by what we are. He can reverse the laws of physics and anything he wants…”

      The enemy you seek to defeat is the law of causality: it permits you no miracles.

      “…because he created it!!!”

      Matter can neither be created nor destroyed; it merely changes form. “God ” created nothing and exists ONLY in your imagination.

      “You need Christ, Citizen Quasar. The end is very close. There will be an antichrist and he will be the last human ruler to ever grace the earth. The final ruler will be Jesus Christ reining in Jerusalem AMONG HIS PEOPLE.”

      The ONLY frame of reference available to your senses to support the fantastic delusions you cook up in your imagination is what is in other peoples’ imaginations. This is why it is so important to have other people pretend along with you, to control what other people think. You use unfounded lies to terrify them into submitting to your phantasmagorical imagination.

      You Christians, superstitious one and all believers in magic and magickind, seek to establish a monarchy in America. You seek to establish an imaginary monarchy while the English at least had a real monarch.

      Pull you head out of you @$$ an be reasonable instead of UNreasonable.

      • jimnjoy

        If God didn’t create us…how did we get here? Creating something out-of nothing, and all that.

        • Citizen Quasar

          You mean where did reality come from? Reality has always been here.

          • jimnjoy

            More gobbledygook from you instead of answering my question.

          • Citizen Quasar

            My statement is specific and clear. Yet you talk of superstitious and imaginary things that require magic.

    • Citizen Quasar

      Here you show that you are in favor of a monarchy (“Jesus” as King) instead of a free society. Please read my previous response again.

    • Citizen Quasar

      I am being censored by this site.

    • 35wormhole

      god is IFOFIB(imaginary friend or foe irrational belief)

    • jimnjoy

      Amen.

  • jimnjoy

    May God have mercy on us.

  • jimnjoy

    What a bunch of gobbledygook you espouse.

    I think it takes more faith to believe your gobbledygook than to believe
    the Bible.

    Only God is inherently righteous, and man falls woefully short of the divine standard of moral perfection. But the gospel reveals that on the basis of faith-and faith alone-God will impute His righteousness to ungodly sinners. It has always been God’s way to justify sinners by grace on the basis of faith alone. God justifies guilty, condemned sinners by grace alone through faith in Christ alone.
    (MacArthur).

    We are born sinners. We cannot save ourselves. God’s propitiation for our sins is Jesus Christ.

    Please pray about this and start reading the Bible. Starting with Romans would be good.

    • Citizen Quasar

      Your hero, to moderator of this site, will NOT post my response.

    • 35wormhole

      god is a IFOFIB(imaginary friend or foe irrational belief)

  • Donna Hinnen

    Accepting Jesus into your heart and walking with him is the only way to rid the evil in this world.

  • fel121

    Americas biggest problem is its worship of money and celebrity, some thing I am sure none of you good people do.
    When this country was enslaving, raping and murdering black people, what were Gods thoughts on that, when we were wiping out the indigenous tribes that were here first where was the Easter Bunny then,

    It is only now that this God creature is suddenly concerned about human life?
    Tell him for me to piss off, he had his chance to do something and was to busy hiding priest that were finger fvcking kids from prosecution to do anything.

  • Citizen Quasar

    Moderator: Thank you for editing and posting this comment!!!

  • jimnjoy

    “For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they (you, Citizen Quasar), are without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools…”, (example: espouse gobbledygook.) Romans 1:18-22, (part).

    Men are conscious of God’s existence, power, and divine nature through general revelation. However, like you, they do not glorify Him. But God, whose love for us is not based on how lovable we are, but on the constancy of His own character, “…died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. but God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” Romans 5:6-8.

    “For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” John 3:16.

    I would pray about this if I were you.

    • Citizen Quasar

      “I would pray about this if I were you.”

      It is obvious that you are trying to terrify me. This makes you a terrorist. It is also obvious that you are trying to control my thoughts.

      It is a psychological necessity for you that I play along with you and pretend that your imaginary friend is real. This is because the only frame of reference, the only evidence available to your senses, that supports what is in your imagination is what is in other people’s imaginations. So you use terror to control what other people think.

      Also, your whole argument is ludicrous because you expect me to believe your imaginary friend is all about nothing but love and then that same imaginary friend schizzes out and tortures forever those that do not believe in it. Your imaginary friend is in serious need of medication.

      • jimnjoy

        God is all about love, but He is also all about justice. Sin demands punishment. He wants to forgive your sins and save you from those forever tortures you mention. You are never going to be able to be “good” enough to pay for your sins, so Jesus was punished for them instead of you. You just have to acknowledge this and accept Him as your Savior. Not too complicated, really.

        • Citizen Quasar

          Even though the same response is allowed for those who post in support of their imaginary friends, I am NOT allowed to post my same response which decimates the imaginary response. This gives tacit approval to my debating opponents.

          As my response is “pending,” I can only hope that the site moderator will soon allow my comment to post. Otherwise I am declaing that I am being censroed in order to assist the superstitious people who post nonsense against me.

        • hypnotoad72

          So it’s okay to wantonly sin and say someone else paid the price? Seems uncomplicated, but is that justice? Or scapegoating to an extreme?

          • jimnjoy

            I did not mean to trivialize sinning. Quite the contrary.

            Romans 3:23, “…for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God…”.

            “If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.”
            I John 1:8-10.

            God’s justice demands that every sin and sinner be punished. God would have been just, when Adam and Eve sinned, to destroy them, and with them, the entire human race. But in His goodness and forbearance (see Romans 2:4), He withheld His judgment for a certain period of time. (MacArthur)

            “forbearance”…holding off judgment. Rather than destroying every person the moment he or she sins, God graciously holds back His judgment (see Romans 3:25). He saves sinners in a physical and temporal way from what they deserve to show them His saving character, that they might come to Him and receive salvation that is spiritual and eternal. (MacArthur)

            He wants you to repent. Repenting is the act of turning from sin and trusting in Christ for forgiveness and salvation.

            Christ took the punishment we all deserve. Thank-you, Jesus.

  • tiny flea

    America became insane once the right wing nuts took over the GOP and are forcing their sick and vile christianity on the rest of the country. 99% of the problems we have today is because of that fact.

    • http://www.BR-549.com Junior Samples

      Barack, Michelle is calling you! Dinner is ready!

  • http://www.nrk.no/ Birger Skruddusvingen

    “Picture a small mid-western town where the” etc.

    Any such attempt would probably be struck down – quickly!

  • http://www.nrk.no/ Birger Skruddusvingen

    “Abortion is NOT murder.”

    Life begins at concepton, doesn’t it? Or does it in some magical way start 20 weeks after conception? Or, say, 5 or 9 months after?

    What about a child that was born, 9 months after conception, 20 seconds ago and has not had its umbilical cord cut of yet – is that child “an anatomic part of a woman’s organic body” – meaning that the mother can kill the child herself, or have someone else kill it, with no fear of punishment?

    No. Let’s face it: Life begins at conception. Induced abortion is murder and thus illegal.

    • Citizen Quasar

      “No. Let’s face it: Life begins at conception.”

      I have already said several times that life begins at
      conception. However, it is NOT the life of a human being but the life of a
      zygote, which is a blob—hardly describable as a human—and it is part of the
      woman’s body similar to her other organs that are part of her body.

      You pretend that since it is living tissue that this
      identifies it as a human being even though the fact that it is living tissue
      identifies it as neither a being nor human but as an anatomic part of a woman’s
      organic body.

      This tissue becomes a baby when the umbilical cord is cut
      and not a second sooner as this is the point in time when it is no longer a
      part of the woman’s organic body and when it becomes a separate anatomic unit,
      an independent life form. Until then, it is part of the woman’s physical body
      and it is impossible for a woman to murder a part of her own body…which would
      violate the very definition of murder.

      However, it does not matter how many times I point this out
      nor how many times I take you anti-abortionists by the hand and walk you through
      it because you are so detached from reality, from the evidence of your senses, that
      you won’t even integrate the entire presentation in your mind, instead focusing
      on one or two aspects of it that you disconnect from the rest and attack as if
      they are not causally attached to the rest of the proof.

  • NoChip4Me

    Those who will not be Governed by God will be Ruled by Tyrants’ – William Penn

    As you sow, so shall you reap.

  • Dean

    The freaks are gonna inherit the earth

  • hypnotoad72

    What improving economy? And. Suggesting bad behavior is due to an improving economy is a loose association at best.

  • James

    The Devil knows but he has but a short time. He is getting everything messed up before he is sent to the bottomless pit and then to the Lake of fire to burn there forever.

  • Arizona

    WHEN a country preys on their own children,THAT country is FINISHED,when a country preys on the children of other nations,AS AMERICA DOES,it will be punished severally,and the punishment coming to america will be sever,GET close to OUR DEAR LORD ,”NOW”… its about to start,and you won’t be saved if the LORD don’t know you…….and you don’t want to go, where most americans will be going……………

  • rh

    Heres a few FACTS / pieces of data for all the GOD hating intellectuals out there to worship. 1. America has drifted further away from GOD than it has ever been. 2. America is more corrupt overall than it has ever been. 3. Americans are less happy than they have been in a long time. Those are facts from every source I have read as of late, as well as the way it seems to me people feel when asked on tv or when I talk to them. With that being said cant you see that the more you take GOD out of our society the more corrupt and depraved it gets. Its plain as day to anyone willing to examine the evidence. Use your brains and do what you claim to do best. Analyze those FACTS.

  • Sunny

    Hey “endoftheamericandream”! You ask to share your articles to others, but do you allow others’ articles to be shared too (for eg., via links in the comments)???