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Will An Ebola Panic Be Used As An Excuse To Put Large Numbers Of Americans In Camps?

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Prison Camp In America - Public DomainNow even the mainstream media is admitting that during an Ebola panic “people could be detained for long periods, merely on a suspicion they might have been exposed to some pathogen.”  As you will read about below, federal law contains some very vague provisions which could be used to indefinitely quarantine large numbers of Americans in the event of a significant Ebola outbreak in the United States.  So where would all of those people be put?  Certainly they would not be mixed in with prison populations, and our hospitals would only be able to handle a very limited number of Ebola patients.  Once our medical facilities are overwhelmed, it is inevitable that those that have Ebola or that are suspected of having Ebola would be housed in temporary holding centers, tent cities, sports stadiums, old military bases and FEMA camps.  Of course strict measures would be taken to ensure that the quarantine is not broken.  So no matter what official name is given to these facilities, they would in essence be prison camps.  No unauthorized personnel would be going in or out.  And since the federal government already has the power to round up and detain anyone “reasonably believed to be infected with a communicable disease”, the potential for abuse is staggering.

The global death toll has now passed 1,000 for the first time, and many in the mainstream media are starting to realize that there is a very strong possibility that we could soon start seeing cases of Ebola in North America.

And if Ebola does start spreading across the United States, it is inevitable that there will be a very strong response by the federal government.

A piece that was written for Forbes entitled “If Ebola Arrives In The U.S., Stopping It May Rely On Controversial Tools” that was authored by former FDA official Scott Gottlieb spells out some of the “spooky” measures that could be implemented if we do indeed see a major Ebola outbreak in this country…

The existing rules leave a murky and potentially intrusive scheme largely intact. The Bush era regulation laid out some spooky scenarios where people could be detained for long periods, merely on a suspicion they might have been exposed to some pathogen.  And forced to submit to certain medical interventions to gain their freedom. But the existing rules in force today leave possible these same scenarios – only without any protections that could be spelled out in clear regulations.

So what would those “medical interventions” include?

Are we talking about mandatory drugging or mandatory vaccines?

And the rules also say that people can be detained for as long “as may be reasonably necessary”.  Unfortunately, that phrase is never defined.  During a crisis, it could potentially mean that people will be detained for weeks or even months

In the presence of a suspect case of Ebola, the official CDC website details ‘Specific Laws and Regulations Governing the Control of Communicable Diseases’, under which even healthy citizens who show no symptoms of the virus could be forcibly quarantined at the behest of medical authorities. The existing regulations stipulate, “Quarantine is used to separate and restrict the movement of well persons who may have been exposed to a communicable disease to see if they become ill.”

In other words, you don’t have to be sick to be detained. Just suspected by health officials of having been in contact with someone who might have had the disease.

The regulations say a person “may be detained for such time and in such manner as may be reasonably necessary.” Is that three days or thirty? There are no rules.

You might be thinking that we could just test those that are potentially sick and then release those that do not have the virus.

Well, the truth is that there are only a few labs in the entire country that are capable of conducting these tests.  During a major outbreak, it may be necessary to test thousands (or even millions) of Americans for the disease.  But the infrastructure that we have is simply not able to test that many people.

And remember, Ebola victims can be carrying around the virus for up to three weeks before showing any symptoms and Ebola can remain in the systems of recovering victims for up to seven weeks.

So would it be “reasonable” to isolate potential Ebola victims for ten weeks or longer?

That is a very good question.

Perhaps someone should pose it to someone at the CDC.

And without a doubt, our health authorities have been thinking about these types of issues.  For example, at the end of July a page on the CDC website entitled “Legal Authorities for Isolation and Quarantine” was updated.  The following is an excerpt from that page…

Isolation and quarantine are public health practices used to stop or limit the spread of disease.

Isolation is used to separate ill persons who have a communicable disease from those who are healthy. Isolation restricts the movement of ill persons to help stop the spread of certain diseases. For example, hospitals use isolation for patients with infectious tuberculosis.

Quarantine is used to separate and restrict the movement of well persons who may have been exposed to a communicable disease to see if they become ill. These people may have been exposed to a disease and do not know it, or they may have the disease but do not show symptoms. Quarantine can also help limit the spread of communicable disease.

Isolation and quarantine are used to protect the public by preventing exposure to infected persons or to persons who may be infected.

In addition to serving as medical functions, isolation and quarantine also are “police power” functions, derived from the right of the state to take action affecting individuals for the benefit of society.

In between vacations, Barack Obama has spent some time on these issues as well.  In fact, Barack Obama recently signed an executive order that gives the federal government authority to round up and detain anyone that shows symptoms of “diseases that are associated with fever and signs and symptoms of pneumonia or other respiratory illness, are capable of being transmitted from person to person, and that either are causing, or have the potential to cause, a pandemic, or, upon infection, are highly likely to cause mortality or serious morbidity if not properly controlled.”

That sounds like Ebola to me.

And even before that executive order, federal law already allowed the federal government to apprehend any person “reasonably believed to be infected with a communicable disease” and detain them “for such time and in such manner as may be reasonably necessary”.

However, it would not just be sick people and potentially sick people that would be detained during an Ebola crisis.  The panic and fear that an Ebola pandemic would create would likely set off waves of rioting, looting and lawlessness similar to what we witnessed in Ferguson, Missouri in cities all over the nation.  If things got bad enough, it is very easy to imagine martial law being declared.

Right now, U.S. health officials are trying to keep everyone calm by insisting that the spread of Ebola “requires direct contact with bodily fluids” and that our health infrastructure is far superior to what they have over in Africa.

But they still haven’t explained to us how more than 170 health workers have contracted the virus even though those health workers have gone to extreme lengths to avoid getting the disease.

And many have pinned their hopes on defeating this Ebola outbreak on a new “miracle drug” known as ZMapp.

Well, an elderly Spanish priest that contracted Ebola in Liberia was being treated with this drug and now he is dead

An elderly Spanish priest infected with Ebola has died in a Madrid hospital, five days after being evacuated from Liberia. The 75-year-old Roman Catholic priest, Miguel Pajares, was being treated in Spain with an experimental US serum, ZMapp, after being flown to Madrid on August 7. He contracted Ebola at the Saint Joseph Hospital in the Liberian capital Monrovia where he worked with patients suffering from the disease. It is confirmed. He died at 9:28 am,” said a spokeswoman for Spain’s La Paz-Carlos III hospital. The priest had been treated with ZMapp, she said.

And at this point, all existing supplies of ZMapp have been completely exhausted.

So even if this drug did work, it is going to take quite a while to produce a sufficient amount of it.

Sadly, very few people seem to grasp how very serious all of this is.  We could potentially be looking at the greatest health crisis in modern American history.  It is conceivable that millions of people could end up dead.

Of course it is also possible that this Ebola crisis could fizzle out over the next few weeks.  Let us hope that ends up being the case, because a full-blown Ebola outbreak in the U.S. would be an absolute nightmare.

  • K

    First the camps would receive some genuine sick people. Then the suspected sick. It would just be a coincidence that the members of that group, would be all the people who ever objected to the present Government. In short, if you go into one of those camps. You would be right to assume, you are not coming back out. I know how I would react, to such a situation.

  • AvidReader

    “In order to protect the people, we will lock up the people.” Sounds familiar? Something with Vietnamese villages and financial markets who shared this same fate. Such would be the “logic” behind fighting a pandemic. So be aware when and where you cough or sneeze. Don’t get caught in the act by the wrong person, or you will have signed your own death warrant.

  • Paul

    Everyone needs to bare in mind the mental state of the current u.s government. the American people means nothing to this government. This country is currently under a ‘divide and conquer’ status (do the research). People like Michael are not fear mongers–he reports news that the main stream media white washes. People need to focus on this present problem with very serious attention. Families need to sit down together and have meetings. Communities need to bond together and discuss these dangerous times. There is going to come a time–and I’m not a fear monger or conspiracy theorist–when the lights are going to go off, the trucks stop running, the grocery stores bare, and America will be in chaos. What will you do then? What will your family do? It doesn’t take much to see that this country is systematically being destroyed from the inside out. Responsible people will focus on the clear and present dangers and understand. When the enemy is sighted on the horizon you don’t sit in your foxhole tossing jokes at your buddy pretending everything is okay.
    I’ll end with this question: What will if and when a virus outbreak happens? What will you do if the stores go empty? What will you do if the lights go out? What will do if looters or rioters try to get into your home? What will do when there is no water? What will you do when there is no medicine? Depend on the government–the same government who can’t even secure the southern border? If you think the government will assist you, then you’re already defeated. Self-reliance is what made America what is use to be–depending on the government has what made America what it is today.

  • Tom

    If our government has plans in place to protect us from dangerous communicable disease/illnesses, why aren’t many of the illegal immigrants who have been found to have TB being put in quarantine? Why are they being shipped across the US when they should be detained and /or sent back immediately?
    The federal government is sending them to other places in the country and doing it very quietly. We have a bunch here in Syosset,NY that we have found out only recently. We are told they we “screened” for disease….Riiiight….

  • randyfreedom

    This may or may not be the Black Swan event that gets the social engineers what they want all in one shot: 1-Martial Law 2-Economic collapse 3-distraction from WW3 4-default on debt 5-North American Union 6-chip implants 7-culling of the population 8-lots of other sick stuff

  • Syrin

    This latest Ebola scare is a trial run. The real thing hasn’t been unleashed yet, and then YES, they will declare martial law, FEMA camps, suspended elections, everything. Watch the Star Wars movies when the Empire took over. It happened over night. Same thing will happen here.

  • DJohn1

    The real trouble comes when it gets around to disposing of all the bodies. There is no way that the financial system can handle an epidemic or the health system be able to take care of people.
    A typical cost for a hospital stay right now is over a thousand dollars a day. In some places it is much higher than that. Perhaps double that to stay in a hospital for any length of time.
    The legal side of things means inheritance by lawyers to the tune of 6-20% of the inheritance estate itself. If you have a large number of people dying all at once there are going to be a large number of open cases and no one to help.
    I expect them to nationalize all the nursing homes in the country. They will place most of the Ebola Victims in places where we would normally hold the senile citizens. And that really gets tricky.
    We already do this with certain contageous diseases.
    A nursing facility often can lose 1/3 or more of their patients when a local flu epidemic hits. These old people are all vulnerable in a nursing home setting to die.
    You will see people running around in special isolation suits in an attempt to keep the disease under control.
    You will see people at the grocery store with face masks on.
    The bottom line is that it will be the very best success story of the century for nursing homes and hospitals. The only problem is that the success story is only on paper. And those are all uncollectable debts. So in reality, the hospitals will go bankrupt very soon after an epidemic hits.
    All group meetings such as churches will have to be an internet meeting. All churches will be closed to public meetings when this happens.
    Placing anyone in these FEMA camps is insane. Where are you going to find guards willing to take care of them? I wouldn’t guard a FEMA camp because the truth is it makes that person vulnerable to getting the disease. What good is money if you are dead?
    The nightmare is that this is very real. That the only cure is to isolate the disease from going public. There is a very short bell curve of people that survive the disease and are therefore immune.
    If I am right, there is no immunity because the disease itself will mutate around it.
    It looks to me like this Ebola thing is man-made in some laboratory and is set loose on purpose to see what happens.
    The people most likely to survive for any length of time is going to be people in remote areas where shopping is limited. These people stock up on everything as they are often stranded without the services of a store for weeks on end. They also have generators for electricity, natural gas or propane heat or coal stoves to heat the place in winter. And large stockpiles of food in case they get stranded.
    Sounds to me like this might all be material for your next novel, Michael.

    • Tony

      The answer to your guard question is that they won’t be guarding anything. They will put possibly infected as well as political undesirables straight into a furnace. Only way that won’t happen is if this is a well orchestrated hoax, or more likely, the guards are given the antidote that won’t be available for those that are marked for elimination. Btw, airborne or not, flies & their maggots would be such a filthy, disease-spreading vector (as they always have been), that ebola has wings either way. Ever been bitten by flies before? Bodies are beginning to pile up in the streets in many Liberian villages. If each body can feed half a million maggots, then its like having a zombi split into 500000 zombies. Exponential fly population growth always comes with pestilence and this time it will increase the pestilence exponentially also. Birds and scavenging animals and their excrement will spread this as well.

      • DJohn1

        Very good comment. I wouldn’t put anything past this group in D.C.
        Your flies comment may already be happening in less than desirable sanitary conditions in Africa.

  • Michelle Aime

    They will start rounding up on sunday morning where large groups of people against their agenda congregate