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Was A Pro-Israel Messianic Jewish Christian The Primary Target Of The San Bernardino Shootings?

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Nicholas Thalasinos - Photo from FacebookWhy is the mainstream media ignoring evidence that the primary reason why Sayed Farook and his wife went on a deadly shooting spree in San Bernardino, California was because Farook wanted to get revenge on a pro-Israel Messianic Jewish Christian co-worker? 52-year-old Nicholas Thalasinos had worked alongside Farook as an inspector for an extended period of time, and it is being reported that they would often have discussions about religion and politics. As you will see below, the two had been arguing about whether Islam was a peaceful religion or not, Farook had reportedly made threats to kill Thalasinos, and Farook had was quite insistent that Islam would someday “rule the world”.

As authorities search for a motive for the shootings, you would think that a “heated, passionate” debate that took place between Farook and Thalasinos just a few days earlier would be a natural place to start. The following comes from CNN

One of Farook’s colleagues killed in the attack, Nicholas Thalasinos, liked to discuss religion and politics. Farook and Thalasinos, reportedly a devout Messianic Jew, had a “heated, passionate” discussion about politics and religion a few days earlier, said Kuuleme Stephens, a friend of Thalasinos, who called him at work while Thalasinos was in the middle of the conversation.

But apparently what transpired between the two went far beyond just a “discussion”. According to a close friend of Thalasinos, Farook told Thalasinos that “Christians and Jews deserve to die”, and he also threatened to kill Thalasinos in particular. This next excerpt comes from an article by Paul Joseph Watson

A close friend of Nicholas Thalasinos, one of the victims of the San Bernardino shooting, said that gunman Sayed Farook had threatened to kill Thalasinos because he was Jewish and asserted that “Islam will rule the world.”

CV Claverie posted the following Facebook message on Thursday evening;

“The islamic terrorist who took the Life of my friend & bro in Christ, Nicholas Thalasinos, on yesterday in San Bernadino, CA, had been threatening him, telling him that islam will rule the world, Christians and Jews deserve to die; and that he (Nicholas) was going to die.”

To me, this appears to be the core of the whole story. But it has been almost entirely discarded by the mainstream media because it does not fit with any of the “narratives” that they are trying to push.

If Thalasinos was a member of a group favored by the liberal media, his name would be everywhere and this angle of the story would be front page news. But because he was a pro-Israel Messianic Christian Jew, the fact that Thalasinos and Farook had been heatedly arguing only a few days before the shootings is being given very little importance. Apparently at least one of the “discussions” that had really upset Farook was one about whether or not Islam is a peaceful religion

Thalasinos is a member of a messianic church and is strongly pro-Israel. His Facebook page is filled with positive postings about Israel and Jewish holidays and messages of Shabbat Shalom. He was also a strong political conservative.

Co-workers described Thalasinos as strongly outspoken about his political views, but “wonderful and compassionate.”

But here’s the kicker: The USA Today report, which buried this detail 31 paragraphs down in a 54 paragraph story about some of the victims, on Tuesday, the day before the massacre, Thalasinos posted on social media that he had received threats in recent days, including one stating he “will die.”

An Associated Press report revealed that a co-worker said that Thalasinos and Farook had argued recently about religion, and Thalasinos complained to her that Farook “doesn’t agree that Islam is not a peaceful religion.”

Thalasinos and his wife are members of the Shiloh Messianic Congregation church in Crestline, California.

If I was a detective assigned to this case, I would be focused like a hawk on the interactions between Thalasinos and Farook. To me, this is clearly what motivated Farook and his wife to murder Thalasinos and the others. But the vast majority of the news stories that I have read about this event do not even mention Thalasinos.

Although the mainstream media does not like to admit it, there are lots of radical Muslims living inside the United States that hate Christians, that hate Jews, and that hate the state of Israel. And since Thalasinos was a Christian, a Jew, and a tremendous supporter of the state of Israel, that made him easy for Farook to hate.

And of course that are lots of other radical Muslims that harbor similar hatred in their own hearts. For example, it has been reported that radical Muslims in Dearborn, Michigan celebrated the terror attacks in Paris on November 13th by setting off fireworks

Radical Muslims in the Dearborn, Mich., area were celebrating the Nov. 13 Paris attacks orchestrated by ISIS, according to a resident.

“As the news started, I don’t remember exactly what time but it was in the early evening [of the shooting], at first there was a large crack and it startled me, and I’m like ‘okay, what was that?’ and shortly thereafter there were several more fireworks going off,” the Dearborn, Mich., resident reported, who wished not to be identified. “What I found out later [they were] fireworks and in the streets, I did not see the people, however it was several blocks away, within four or five blocks from my house, people were shouting ‘Allah Ackbar.’”

Last month, at two different soccer games in Azerbaijan and Turkey, soccer fans were similarly chanting “Allahu Akbar” and booing during a moment of silence for the victims of the attacks, and in 2001 radical Muslims were celebrating 9/11.

The mainstream media does not like to report things like this because they are not “politically correct”.

Decades ago, journalists often made an honest attempt to report the news, whether it was good or bad. But now so much of our “journalism” is really just agenda-driven propaganda.

And since the fact that a radical Muslim was trying to take revenge against a conservative Messianic Jewish Christian does not “fit the narrative” that the mainstream media is trying to craft around this story, it is almost entirely ignored.

Please share this article with as many people as you can, because the American people deserve the truth.

And please pray for the family of Nicholas Thalasinos and the other families that lost loved ones in this horrifying terror attack. Nobody should ever have to go through what they are going through right now.

  • Paul F

    I am a Pro-Israel Messianic Jew and I fight back. Jews are not push overs. Look at the Nation of Israel today and the wars She has won against impossible odds. Israel will live forever because she belongs to GOD and HIS HOLY SON MESSIAH YESHUA who will reign from Israel and destroy the wicked with just the breath from HIS HOLY MOUTH. As King David stood up against impossible odds and fought with faith as his power and not human flesh, so will we Jews fight against this world with faith in our GOD of Israel through MESSIAH YESHUA and not flesh. The enemy may outnumber us, but that only makes victory more precious and the victory will be won by GOD, not man.

    • krinks

      Sorry but liberal American Jews hate you as much if not more than Muslims do which is why there is no outcry over this and won’t be. It is also the reason why they remain silent over Israel being accused of darn near everything and the so called Palestinians being portrayed as Saintly.

      • Paul Patriot

        You are very correct. I am very pro-Israel, but also am aware that folks like Senator Feinstein and New Yorks one and only Bloomberg, and Connecticuts only Bloomenthal, are nothing more than tyrants. God help us should they ever be in a position of great power!!!

        These are the anti-gun Jews. Many Jews are pro gun, as they remember the holocaust very well and how the nazis disarmed them, but the above, are liberal progressive Jews. In an interview, Bloomberg admitted his disbelief in God.

        They hate America and they hate Christians, and they are the Jews that have forsaken the Living God.

        • krinks

          It is amazing actually that they hate Israel so much as Israel is a socialist state with the rights of Christians, Jews, and Muslims to live and let live is respected to go with Tel Aviv the most gay friendly city on Earth. Israel is what they claim to stand for.

    • Gay Veteran

      heh, where was “god” when Rome came to Israel?

      • Guest

        Maybe starting the search for the “gay” gene…still searching!
        Think for yourself gay vet!

        • Gay Veteran

          may want to search for that “retard” gene….keep searching!
          Think for yourself Guest!

      • Paul F

        I am still praying for the lost. As for where was GOD when rome came, GOD sent rome as a punishment to Israel for Her sins, but gathered Her back as a nation as Promised. But you can’t know this because you don’t understand GOD’S HOLY WORD.

        • Gay Veteran

          jeez, first he sends Rome then he sends Hitler, your “god” is quite the sadist

          • Paul F

            you are a very lost and perverted soul, like a wild animal with no sense or conscience.when the day of judgement comes, you will know the truth–and like all wild animals with rabid minds, they will be destroyed. Your own day is swiftly approaching.

          • Gay Veteran

            you ever actually read the BILGE you write???
            now don’t you have a street corner to pray loudly at?

        • Gay Veteran

          you ever actually read the BILGE you write?
          now don’t you have a street corner to pray loudly at?

    • Kandy

      Amen.The victory will be won by God.

    • Messiah

      You Jews are not God’s people, you are the cause of all evil. The great whore of Babylon is what you are. It is you who will be destroyed by the breath from HIS HOLY MOUTH.

  • K

    I know of no current Christian or Jewish group. Who believe killing your fellow man, helps you get into heaven. It seems several Muslim groups, believe this very thing. That is a pretty basic, and awfully large difference. Just like in this case. The one man believed, he had the right to argue. The other believed, he had the right to kill. That very basic difference, the news media, would prefer to avoid.

    • Paul Patriot

      ALL muslims are subject to that as that is what their “book” and the prophet taught.

      • iris

        Unless they backslide. I think it was a combination of premeditated hatred toward the Jewish co worker and the converted lady, plus allegedly being a jihadist.

    • Gay Veteran

      several SUNNI Muslim groups

  • Paul Patriot

    Yet ANOTHER reason to see islam as the demon possessed system that it is. Disagree with them, argue with them, they end up murdering you. Yeah, sounds like a religion of peace to me??????

    When are we going to shake off all this politically correct nonsense and stop following the pied piper of propoganda, and stop being afraid to speak truth about the intent of islam……not radical terrorists who happen to be muslim……no, in islam itself, whioch desires to conquer the world by force.

    Add to this the ridiculous comments by the CA attorney general as well as the recent NY times diatribe on more gun control……like terrorists will be subject to gun control??????

  • Paul Patriot

    The only problem with this scenario is that it makes it sound like a revenge shooting. Why would the wife go along with this killing? Why would they have bombs at home? Why would this be so premeditated if it were a crime of passion over an argument?

    Make no sense to me or at least I am sceptical. This disagreement between these two men may have played a part in choosing the target, but rest assured, there will be more attacks coming as ismal is here.

    What I find so disturbing is that the CA attorney general and all the following gun control rermarks, is that they want to push for more gun control on legal gun owners in america, thinking that somehow this will cause terrorist criminals from continuing to follow the commands of their “holy book” and “prophet” to slay infidels????

    Most of these anti-gun folks are intellectuals, with a many degrees and much “education” stuffed into their heads. I grew up in the Northampton/Amherst, Mass. area and LOTS of educated people there with multiple Phd’s and I have never seen such a lack of common sense, logic, or understanding of history in my life. Just brain dead folks that just want to hold hands and sing kumbaya and think all people are good, and vehemently demonize the firearm rather than calling peoples actions evil. In this region, relative truth is huge and the concept of absolute truth or mortals is critisized, thus they will argue islam as a religion of peace.
    Funny though, how they preach tolerance, yet are very intolerant to Christianity and our Founding Fathers.

    So, the conclusion I have arrived at is:

    1) Too much educaction from liberal leftist colleges, pushes out all common sense and logic replacing it with the liberal progressive mindset.

    2) They are not that stupid and are simply pursuing their agenda.

    • iris

      Telling it like it is! “Professing to be wise, they have become fools”.

  • Guest

    So if I understand this correctly the immigrant in San Diego argued that Islam is a religion of peace and then killed a bunch in the name of Islam? Does this not seem like the most ironic thing possible? Ya know why? Becaus ISLAM ISNT A RELIGION OF PEACE! The terrorist religion likes to say that “Islam translated means peace”, um not according to every translation I’ve managed to find! ISLAM TRANSLATED MEANS “surrender or submission”!!!!
    Takes the blinders off America and let’s open our eyes!

    • Guest

      Correction: San Bernadino not San Diego

  • DJohn1

    And our Attorney General is assuring Muslems that we will be prosecuted for telling the “truth” about the Muslem Community.
    Sounds like a pro-Muslim government to me!
    The real reason why this happened is rooted deep in the belief system of the individual predators involved in the killing of innocent people.
    Parable of the Scorpion, the horse, and the flooding river is truth.
    The Scorpion bites the horse that gives him refuge. As they die in the river, the horse asks why? It doesn’t make sense.
    The Scorpion replies I am what I am and I cannot change it. It is in my nature to bite you regardless of the consequences.
    The religion was designed in the 8th or 9th centuries as an opposition to the rising Christian Religion of the time.
    The Muslim way is to be in opposition to all other religions. Sometimes very violently opposed.
    Prosecuting people for how they believe is just as wrong as the Muslim terrorists. I do not know where this person got her law degree from. Someone was terribly remiss in her education as to what the Bill of Rights says. How she ever got to be an attorney general with this Congress? That also must be an interesting story.
    I would like to see the person responsible for bringing them to our shores prosecuted for doing so. Chances are only a major tragedy will bring that about.
    By major I mean a lot of people dying by Muslim Terrorists hands.
    Given the current government and given the current policy towards welcoming the immigrants in, it is only a matter of time before the Congress itself will take action. And that is only because they will have no choice in the matter. It is either that or have the very people that elected them up in arms. Not literally but figuretively which means the Congress will react in anger.
    The question in my mind is very simple.
    Do they get equal treatment under the laws of this land?
    Or are they given special treatment?
    For instance, in the news, a Muslim got was angry with his daughter for the way she dressed and dragged her by the hair out of the school she was in. Now normally Children’s Services would have removed her from the home. I wonder why they were silent.
    I think they did not dare go near that Muslim man.
    Last weekend, Americans voted with their wallets. The most gun sales in history occurred on Black Friday of this year.
    I do not see that many deer in the entire country to justify that many weapons purchased.
    I think we are in a very dangerous situation here that could erupt in a way that no SANE human being of either Muslim or Christian would want.
    These idiots this week that did this, did no favor to the Muslim community here in this country.
    Given our own history of dealing with things like this, they might just find themselves all evicted some time soon.

    • Rebel w/out a Cause

      Holder, Lynch, Obama – this is what you get from Affirmative Action. Thanks, Liberals!

  • William Lutz

    Michael I believe you way more than I believe the mainstream media monopoly. You are a very honest guy.

  • jaxon64

    Michael wrote, “Although the mainstream media does not like to admit it, there are lots of radical Muslims living inside the United States that hate Christians, that hate Jews, and that hate the state of Israel. And since Thalasinos was a Christian, a Jew, and a tremendous supporter of the state of Israel, that made him easy for Farook to hate.”
    I propose that if you were to ask the so-called “moderate” muslims their feelings concerning Christians, Jews and Israel, you’d find that the VAST majority have deep indoctrinated hatred and wish for the death and eradication of these groups.
    QUIT saying “refugees” ( the are migrants/invaders)..quit using terms like radical, moderate, extremists, etc. Just say ISLAMIC or MUSLIM–there truly is NO difference in their beliefs or the perverse teachings thy follow

    • Gay Veteran

      SUNNI muslims (not Shiite) sponsored by our “friends” in Saudi Arabia, look up “Takfiri”

  • know the truth

    The world is run by secret societies. The elites and rulers are Freemasons. They worship Lucifer using the name Allah. And this is no joke, just research it. Our leaders and all world leaders are secretly Muslim. No surprise, because Islam was created by the catholic church through Mohammed who was raised by catholic priests and who married a catholic nun named waraqah. Will Islam take over the world? Yes. The NWO god is Allah. He is the same god the Catholic inner circle worships. The Popes do not kiss the Koran for nothing. Let that soak in for a moment.

  • Nicholas Thalasinos

    There is a better question that should be asked. Was San Bernardino Shooting even real?

    I’m sure this Jewish creep is still alive, Most likely moved to Israel.

  • Bob K

    “Farook told Thalasinos that “Christians and Jews deserve to die”, this shouldn’t surprise anyone. He was only espousing what muhammad taught and what the quran teaches, “Sura 2:191: “kill the disbelievers wherever we find them.”

  • Sandbagger

    “Farook had reportedly made threats to kill Thalasinos…”

    Well, then if this is true, why didn’t Thalasinos report him to the authorities? No complaint lodged ANYWHERE against Farook? Only some accusation on Facebook.


    If anyone says you deserve to die and they will kill you, and you don’t at least call the cops on them, you are stupid. Seriously STUPID.

    Thalasinos hasn’t received any media attention because this could easily be fabricated by the Messianic Jews he knows who hate Muslims. (And don’t even say because they are “Messianic” Jews they could never hate Muslims.)

  • SweetMarmot

    So he fights with the guy about several issues, one of which is whether Islam is a peaceful religion or not. The Messianic Jew says Islam is not peaceful. The Moslem says it is peaceful. So the Moslem terrorist proves how peaceful his religion is by shooting his Messianic co-worker and 13 other co-workers too, just for good measure. Great way to show what a peaceful religion it is—NOT!

    When are we going to start burying dead jihadis inside of pig carcasses, complete with photographs made public and sent to the Islamic world? Islam considers pigs so unclean that such a burial would keep a jihadi out of paradise. No virgins for that asshole. If it was understood that anyone caught doing terrorism would have to connect with pigs or pig products in some way, and if dead, would be buried with pig products, that would end the jihad.

    BTW: What happened to the bodies of Farook and his bitch wife? Is it too late to bury them with pigs, pig blood, or pig fat? If it’s not too late to do this, then what are we waiting for?

  • howiem

    By focusing on the alleged dispute at the Center, you might overlook the thousands of rounds of ammo and the pipe bombs at the perp’s pad. And if the perp had a grudge against Thalasinos, why kill a lot of people unless the perp was a lunatic or a Koran-believing Muslim? It is possible that the alleged dispute induced the perp to change his plans from shooting up some public Gun Free Zone to shooting up the Gun Free Zone Development Center first. Another point is the question of how long had the perp been planning the attacks, i.e., stocking up on weapons and ammo, which I suspect started before the alleged dispute. At an rate if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, you can be pretty sure it is a Muslim terrorist trying to kill as many people as possible.

  • hon788

    Your bringing up only one tiny factor, he had a list of many he wanted to kill including a former Muslim gal that gave it up and moved into Christianity. That pain kills the Koran followers even more.

  • hon788

    The hit was on the Muslim gal that converted to Christianity, no media talks about that. Very sad the gal got shot.

  • hon788

    Also the Muslim gal he killed was on purpose because she converted to Christianity, no media mentioned that.

  • hon788

    Keep trying their are other factors not mentioned like the Muslim gal that converted into Christianity that was killed. No media mentioned that.

  • hon788

    There was a hit list, its known, no media mentioned it.

  • hon788

    One sided piece of writing here, that is ignoring many other more relevant facts, that no media mentioned.

  • hon788

    tHE Muslim gal was killed who news on that??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

  • timetorun

    Persons have sworn to a life of violence, hatred and loving death (“loving death” is a symptom that shows the person or a religion actually HATE God: Proverbs 8.36 “But he who sins against me injures himself; All those who hate me love death.”

    the other interesting thing in the scriptures that points pretty clearly from Ishmael to Islam is this verse in Genesis 16:12 where Ishmael and his descendants are prophesied by God to have a certain kind of disposition: “He will be a wild donkey of a man, His hand will be against everyone, And everyone’s hand will be against him…” Does this sound familiar?

  • Mzdiana

    A Good Muslim is a Dead Muslim! Their way of life is not compatible with the Western World.