They Want A “United States Of Europe” But They Are Going To Need A Massive Financial Crisis In Order To Get It

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Are we about to see a huge push for a “United States of Europe”?  As the sovereign debt crisis in Europe continues to spiral out of control, suddenly this term is popping up in the New York Times and in major newspapers all over Europe.  So is this by accident?  Surely not.  The truth is that there is an overwhelming consensus among the political and financial elite of Europe that a “United States of Europe” is what would be best for the eurozone.  However, they are likely going to need a massive financial crisis in order to reach their goal.  Right now, the citizens of the countries that make up the eurozone are overwhelmingly against deeper European integration.  Without experiencing a massive amount of financial pain, they are unlikely to change their minds any time soon.  So who is going to win in the end?  Unfortunately, the clock is ticking because Greece is on the verge of defaulting on their debts and several other countries are not that far behind.  If Europe does not decide on a course of action soon, the euro is going to collapse and financial institutions all over Europe are going to come crashing down.


Up until now, EU leaders have been handling this crisis by putting out one fire after another.  This has been going on for a couple of years, but these bailouts cannot go on indefinitely.  Instead of fixing things, “kicking the can down the road” has only delayed the pain and made things even worse.

The EU as it is currently structured simply does not work.  The political will for more bailouts is rapidly drying up and politicians in Europe are only going to be able to “extend and pretend” for a little while longer.

Something needs to be done.

But instead of admitting that the euro was a massive mistake and returning to national currencies, most of the top politicians in Europe believe that “more Europe” is the answer.

Mario Draghi, the incoming head of the European Central Bank, is totally convinced that Europe needs to integrate much more deeply….

“To cope with this, we must have a treaty change. The aim of this effort should be a quantum leap up in European economic and political integration.”

Do you notice that he is not just advocating small changes in the way that Europe works.  What Draghi wants is “a quantum leap” in European integration.

His predecessor feels the same way.  Jean-Claude Trichet, the departing head of the European Central Bank, is also very much in favor of much deeper European integration….

“The crisis has clearly revealed the need for strong economic governance in a zone with a single currency”

Of course one of the biggest proponents of a “United States of Europe” has been Herman van Rompuy.  In a recent article, the Telegraph made the following eye-catching statement….

Herman van Rompuy is ready to run for a second term as EU president, at the head of a “United States of Europe”

Of course he would not be doing it for “personal glory”.  In the same article, he is quoted as saying he wants another term because “the work is not finished” and that he needs new powers in order to get it done….

Mr Van Rompuy has announced he is willing to take on the “unfinished” euro zone debt crisis with new powers setting an “economic government” in Brussels.

Top politicians in the UK are even promoting the idea of much deeper European integration.  Even though he insists that Britain will not join the euro, UK Prime Minister David Cameron is now publicly endorsing the idea that the eurozone form a “United States of Europe” in order to save the euro according to a recent article in the Daily Mail….

David Cameron was branded an EU ‘enthusiast’ by Tory Eurosceptics last night as he said Britain must let eurozone countries move towards a United States of Europe with a common economic policy.

The Prime Minister admitted he was not sure whether Germany and other countries had the political will to prevent a break-up of the single currency, but insisted they must be allowed to try – even if that meant closer integration.

It is funny how whenever there is a crisis in Europe, the answer that we are always given is that “more Europe” is the answer.

For example, Antonio Borges, director of the International Monetary Fund’s European unit, recently stated the following….

“To put the crisis behind us, we need more Europe, not less. And we need it now.”

In the past, European leaders were always very hesitant to use the words “United States of Europe“.  But now it seems like that term is flying around all over the place.

It is almost as if they want to start getting us conditioned to the idea.

For example, just check out what former German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder said recently.  He has been one of the biggest cheerleaders for a United States of Europe….

From the European Commission, we should make a government which would be supervised by the European Parliament. And that means the United States of Europe.

So if all of these top politicians want this, why can’t they just do it?

Well, there are some problems.

Right now, the EU treaties don’t really allow for a “United States of Europe”, and the recent decision by the German Constitutional Court has put up some huge roadblocks.

For example, the German Constitutional Court seemed to kill off the possibility for any kind of “fiscal federalism” in the near future when they made this statement in their recent decision….

“The Bundestag’s budget responsibilities may not be transferred through open-ended appropriations to other actors. In particular, no financial mechanisms can lead to meaningful fiscal burdens without prior approval”

Not only that, but the court also clearly rejected the notion of “Eurobonds”….

“No permanent treaty mechanisms shall be established that leads to liability for the decisions of other states, especially if they entail incalculable consequences”

By using this kind of language, the German Constitutional Court has put up some massive roadblocks in the way of a “United States of Europe”.  It is probably going to take a new treaty in order to get it done.

But right now, the citizens of Europe don’t want anything to do with a new treaty that would allow for a “United States of Europe”.  If such a treaty was put up for ratification at this point, it would be soundly defeated.

For example, a recent poll found that 76 percent of the German people are opposed to any further German financial aid for Greece.

In addition, another recent poll found that German voters are against the introduction of “Eurobonds” by about a 5 to 1 margin.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel is having a hard enough time just keeping support for the current Greek bailout together.  According to reports, there are 25 members of her own coalition that plan to vote against the revamped EFSF.  At this point it is unclear whether it will pass or not.

As noted above, the political will for more bailouts is dying.  But without more bailouts, Greece will default and several other eurozone nations will follow.  It could also mean the potential for at least a partial collapse of the euro.

But if there is a massive financial crisis in Europe, it may start changing the minds of the voters about much deeper European integration.

You see, once people start feeling severe pain, often they will start considering things that they would not have considered before.

But let us hope that European voters never change their minds.  Deeper European integration may stop the current financial crisis, but it would also mean a tremendous loss of national sovereignty.

A Daily Mail article entitled “Rise of the Fourth Reich, how Germany is using the financial crisis to conquer Europe” contained the following sobering assessment of what deeper economic integration for Europe would mean….

This would entail a loss of sovereignty not seen in those countries since many were under the jackboot of the Third Reich 70 years ago.

For be in no doubt what fiscal union means: it is one economic policy, one taxation system, one social security system, one debt, one economy, one finance minister. And all of the above would be German.

Right now, the EU is a terribly undemocratic institution.  Individual voters have next to no power over the control freaks that run things in Brussels.  Every single day, the EU becomes a little bit more like the former USSR.

The last thing that the people of Europe need to do is to give the EU more power.

But that is exactly what the elite of Europe want.

They want a “United States of Europe”.

And they may just be willing to allow a massive financial crisis to happen in order to get it.

  • mark

    If the europeans give more power to Brussels they are making a huge mistake. An economy run by progresive socialists does not work. They just spend other peoples money until it is all gone. The next choice is to continue to raise taxes or print more money. Gee, that sounds familiar, isn’t that what we are doing here in the United States of America? The answer is smaller goverment. If the europeans really wanted to have sucess in coming together, they could copy what our founding fathers set up. They would just need to have a narrow read of the wefare clause etc. They would need very strict term limits and no pensions for the new leaders. This is one way to control the control freaks and send them home. Do not let them raid the treasury for themselves. But let’s not kid ourselves, those in power are progresives and since they know what’s good for all of us they will trend towards running things with an iron fist. I guess over there the Fatherland knows best.

  • Aurelius 7

    The crisis was engineered, conspired and implemented through nefarious ways from the very beginning of the EU creation. The Holy Roman empire is being resurrected right before our eyes. Germany is at the helm and the Fourth Reich (and final) is coming. It was destined to come and fail, as it was written.

  • Guido

    I know the picture above is copying from an old painting, but isn’t it kind of ironic the idealized Europe in the picture resembles the tower of babel?

    Zerohedge had an interesting article up a few days ago stating the leaders of Europe are talking unity in front of the cameras, but their quotes in other instances are exactly the opposite. When the press aren’t around, these leaders are talking the end of the Euro.

  • Dan

    It won’t help Europe to become one country, this is a trick to start another currency.

    Look for this trick to be used here in the USA soon.

    Get Ready

  • Michael Scauzzo

    In physics, a quantum (plural: quanta) is the minimum amount of any physical entity involved in an interaction. So when someone says Quantum Leap and thinks that it means something big, I believe that they are mistaken.

  • Colin

    I am doubtful that the European nations will go for integration if Germany is in the lead. In the last century, Germany instigated two major wars that resulted in the deaths of tens of millions and vast property damage throughout Europe. The young may not remember or understand what happen, but the older generations will and may not be willing to bring themselves to live under German leadership.

    • Bobby

      England was jealous of Germany the moment that nation united. When England saw all those modern German Battleships, superior to theirs in WW1, when it saw the excellent social welfare system, and all the scientific advances arising from that nation, it caused a fanatical hatred and jealousy on Englands part. The British were excellent at playing off the European nations against each other, in their rotten balance of power game. This won’t work anylonger, and the natural course of events will prevail.

      • Groener

        Germany should first figure out what to do with their millions of Turks, who still act like Turks but try to think like Germans.

  • The situation in Europe is dire. The Euro itself is finished. It’s just a matter of time. The EU and the UK are literally in flames.

    This blog and have been a great resource for me. I liked them so much I even started my own blog

    Keep up the good work guys.

    • Michael


      It is great to hear of others that are starting their own blogs! The more people trying to get the truth out the better. :)


  • It is high time these small countries start talking economic cooperation and organization to the degree that we here in the USA have been doing for generations now.

    I often wondered why the EU did not do this in the beginning until I understood that ideologies were standing in the way of a piece of progress that will result in the seeds of a new form of government that has the potential to do things in a better way than any other in history.

    Cheers to the US of E forming and I look forward to seeing the extraordinary socioeconomic progress the good people of Europe can accomplish when they try something that we already know works.

    I would suggest they start by looking into drafting a new constitution for all of the EU based on the one recently formed in Iceland. Its quite comprehensive in its depth.

    I understand there are nationalists who will oppose this idea but you can’t make a omelette without breaking some eggs and I’m sure that would offend them if they could be offended. But in the end, something much more tasting and appealing comes from that breaking that will be beneficial to everyone who embraces the concept.

    Economically, a United States of Europe would be the best thing that could happen to the EU and that region of the world.

    Support it 100%

  • I have ceased being surprised at the frequent generation of “new” ideas for more centralization of government, all of which is self-decreed legal initiation of physical force. It appears that many of the creators of these proposals appear to think that there is some “tipping point” at which government becomes the perfect tool for social order, whether it be in North America, Europe, Asia, Africa or anywhere.

    In contrast, I strongly suggest that Society (anywhere on earth), just like any other natural system, can be naturally self-regulating by means of interactions between its members – if only humans seek to discover and are allowed to implement the methods by which such self-regulation can be effective, rather than continuing to embrace social systems that need to be constantly held in an unnatural (and very unoptimal) state of balance by the operations of their rulers and other influencers. Individual self-order without rule by others is the social system whose members are humans, who have become fully adult. Just as people can become physical adults, so can they become social adults – if only they are allowed (and even required in the sense that they will not achieve their desires unless they do) to socially mature sufficiently.

    A society of self-responsible individuals voluntarily interacting for the maximization of the lifetime happiness of each, all at the same time is not “utopia” – an impossibility based on facts of reality. Instead it is a very real possibility once fully understood and embraced by even a relatively small number but used as the basis of their interactions with *all* others, who will gradually come to appreciate, understand and reciprocate – or be shunned.
    “Social Meta-Needs: A New Basis for Optimal Interaction” –

    This treatise above with its many links is not a breezy read – a warning for those looking for and used to soundbites on which to walk away with thinking that such bromides are really foundational and meaningful as a solution to serious social problems.
    Instead, the twin-framework implementations of the Social Meta-Needs theory – The Natural Social Contract and Social Preferencing – are envisioned as replacements for existing governments, all of which are described and regulated (in the US alone) via thousands of volumes and many millions (?billions?) of words enabling tens of thousands of lawyers to charge handsomely to serve as “gatekeepers” for the common folk.

  • UnReconstructed

    I approve of articles and statements that “uncover” attempts by government(s)to fleece the public.
    But what I find lacking is the naming of the institutions and individuals that cause the demise of countries.

    It’s always “they”. Who is this “they”?; Tigers, lions, bears, children, old folks or ghost?
    When the authors of such articles refuse to name the names of these criminals. It is THEY who are being dishonest at least and afraid at best.
    So in the future. Just name them. Example: Loyd Blankfein, Jamie Dimon, Alan Greenspan, Larry Summers, Henry Paulson, Tim Geithner, Ben Bernake, Paul Volker and many many others.
    So man up and call it the way it is!

    • “It’s always “they”. Who is this “they”?;”

      We are not allowed to mention, let alone critizise; Those Who Can’t Be Named (TM).

  • A.S.

    Right when the EU was born, I knew it was the beginning of the Fourth Reich. The EU is controlled by Germany. After reading these articles, as a Jew, it makes me very scared for my Jewish brothers and sisters in Europe. Please escape a new Holocaust before it is too late.

  • Bobby

    These leftists, fooled by the Banking elite, are so stupid they never give up their collectivist dreams. Any American that votes for the Democrat Party and doesn’t ride the ass of the Republican Party about foreign wars, and other crap,doesn’t really care about the fate of the U.S. as a sovereign nation.

  • Bobby

    Germany did not instigate WW1 Colin–Britain did.

  • JD

    The DOW has been dropping like a stone for the past week and today because of Europe. Then again, maybe not. Maybe this whole thing is forming another bubble getting ready to pop. All I know that food prices are killing everyone. I heard on the Ag report today that Texas is sending more cattle off to be slaughtered. My Dad made the point that most of the ranchers are older and that after they liquidate they will never get into it again. Michael please do another story about food prices and shortages. This is a very important issue to poor people. They have no idea the pain that is coming. Starvation and food riots are coming in 2012. People need to be aware.

    • Michael

      I will definitely keep that in mind JD.

      I had a very interesting article almost completed today, but WordPress went and made it disappear somehow.

      So I apologize for not having a new article posted on this site today. :(


  • A Dodgy Bloke

    I disagree with some people’s assumption that a United States of Europe is around the corner. The first article from the Daily Mail take a look at blue box with black type at the end of the article. Nine nations rejected an 11% increase in the EU budget the second is off of Drudge has an interesting snippet about Greek bond buying by the Chinese.
    As your article stated, and my own reading out side of Brussels the Press, and a few politicians there is little stomach for more Europe. The EU is a wealth redistribution program that has failed. As long as everyone got their goodies and the wealthier nations didn’t pay attention to where their money was going everything was fine. Now that people are awake and asking questions and don’t like what they’re seeing. I don’t think the EU is going anywhere soon, Greece, Italy, Spain, Ireland, are gone it’s not a matter of if as when. The long-term problem is the European banks that loaned tons of money to the above. What I suspect is the European banks will get another bail out leaving a heavily indebted smaller Euro zone this is what killed Ireland. There will be wailing and mashing of teeth, but the banks will be bailed out. Even if under some miracle they did pull off a “United States of Europe” the banking, debt and demographic issues make the project unsustainable. Europe will be interesting to watch over the next couple of years.

  • D

    This was all foretold in the bible (old testament).

    There will be a final war between these symbolic animals and those who follow them: The bear and the lion with wings, except the wings have their feathers torn off.

    The bear is Russia’s symbolic animal. The lion is the UK’s current symbol. The eagle is the US symbol. The catch is that the lion’s wings are defeathered, symbolizing a falling US trying to guide/help the UK when all hell breaks out.

    This is happening right now. The dominos will fall and WWIII will eventually break out after financial collapse arises internationally. The US and it’s allies with go to war with Russia/China and their allies. It will be nuclear – this was also mentioned in the bible in Zechariah as “fire offerings.”

  • Leroy

    The poster who correctly called the rise of the Holy Roman Empire and the rise of The Fourth Reich nailed it.

    It’s all there right before our eyes, only most people have their eyes wide shut.

  • Aurelius 7

    FYI this article was posted on Alex “Nutjob” Jone’s website. Please don’t let this site get all tinfoil hatty.

  • amami

    Good article but quoting the Daily Mail about the Rise of the 4th Reich and how Germany is using the financial crisis to conquer Europe is misleading. This is not about any one country attempting to conquer Europe. It’s the Anglo-American elite, particularly the Rothschilds, and the black nobility of Europe who hold the power and are pulling the strings to bring about their doomed-to-fail dictatorship. Same as it’s always been.

    • Bobby

      Thank you. The biggest threat to the whole world is the banking system, and the printing of fiat money.

  • mondobeyondo

    Germany will most likely emerge as the dominant force financially. They are the most financially stable country in the eurozone as of now. Whether or not a “United States of Europe” becomes a reality – that’s tricky.

    Assume for a moment that Berlin becomes the Washington DC of the new USE (United States of Europe). Don’t think for a second that it would be anything like its equivalent in the USA.

    For one thing, there’s history. Yeah, the South hated the northern “Yankees”, and wanted nothing better than the defeat of the North. That was very bad.

    It’s nothing compared to the history of the European countries in the past 200-300 years. France and England – could’ve been better (the whole Napoleon thing and all.) France and Germany – historically, not good. Britain and Germany – not good. Russia and Germany? “I stab your back, you stab mine”.

    I seriously doubt a “United States of Europe” would work, not without a tremendous amount of bloodshed.

  • Noneya

    Wow, that picture reminds me of the Tower of Babel where everyone is reduced to bricks, rather than the stones God made us to be.

  • JOHN

    Interesting article. I have been reading the articles from for a long time and the writers of these articles are pretty much spot on in saying that Germany has planned all the major events in Europe. Such plands were laid down by the Nazis before the end of World War 2. I suggest you research this for yourself. Rodney Atkinson has also authored 2 interesting books on this theme. They are:
    “Fascist Europe Rising” and “Europe’s Full Circle”.

    The Trumpet says there will be a Union of Ten European nations led by BGermany which will wage World War 3. We live in intertesgting times!

    • Bobby

      Rodney Atkinson? British I presume? It is the City of London and Wall Street that are creating all of the evil going on in the Western World. Compared to them, Germany is a boy scout.

  • Randome-11

    They planned that any eventual major economic problems would be delayed at least a decade or perhapse two. Long enough for the eurozon to prodper more and the publics of the EU countries become more favorable due to proaganda campaign for the zeropean union.

    That isn´t happening, the eurocrats bungled-up, the economy is going down the gutter and with it, support for their lubbies. So they decide to accelerate, press forth their projects before things goes even worst, even if there is a risk of massive public outrage and revolt.
    Making one big gamble, just like Hitler, will it turn into a Case Yellow or into an Operation Barbarossa?

    • Bobby

      It might turn into a responsible Europe.

  • Gnasher from England

    The International Finance Houses,the moneychangers and their puppets the Politicians have been working on the plan to reduce the world population through war and control of the People for many decades,using the tenets of,”The Frankurt School”,(how to brainwash the populace,without them realising).The plan seems to be working almost to perfection.

  • The title of this post/article is correct – and, guess who gets to PAY for the bailouts of the European Banks that OWN America? American taxpayers.

  • Don’t EVER give up! FIGHT BACK – like the Founding Fathers did, just over 200 years ago!!!

    Americans simply need to take their power back, become more self-reliant, and change their behavior, so they aren’t FUNDING the globalists.

    What can Americans do to fight the New World Order?
    1. Turn off your T.V. (Better yet,throw it away)
    2. Think for yourself.
    3. Question all so-called ‘Authority’(Especially big banks,big oil,big weapons manufacturers,big government,multinational corporate interests,big media,and anything you were taught in school)!
    4. Get out,and/or stay out,of debt! (Try to not charge for things that you can just as easily pay for,with cash)
    5. Use cash as much as possible,rather than debit cards and/or credit cards,which allow companies to track what you are buying,and where you are buying.
    6. Get rid of grocery store ‘discount’cards –grocery stores provide this information to insurance companies.
    7. Bank at a Credit Union,or any alternative to the ‘Too-Big-To-Fail’Banks,that participated in the 2008 Banker Bailout. Don’t do business with ‘the Beast’.
    8. Invest as much as you reasonably can in precious metals –especially silver,and gold.
    9. You have the right to own a firearm,to protect yourself,and your family. Read the 2nd Amendment.
    10. Buy products that indicate “Made in America”–whenever possible. You’d be surprised to find out how many necessary,practical,every day products are still “Made in America”!
    11. Buy food at a local Farmer’s Market
    12. Start your own garden
    13. Meditate –reduce your stress!
    14. Get exercise!
    15. Read a book (here is an excellent book to read:Psychological Warfare and the New World Order:The Secret War Against the American People )
    16. Listen to soothing classical, jazz, ambient, or alternative music
    17. Watch ‘Freedom to Fascism’–a film by Aaron Russo (can be found here:
    18. Watch ‘Why We Fight’–a film by Eugene Jarecki(can be found here:…r_embedded)
    19. Watch ‘Endgame’–a film by Alex Jones (can be found here:
    20. Below is advice from John Perkins’ book, entitled THE SECRET HISTORY OF THE AMERICAN EMPIRE (The Truth About Economic Hit Men, Jackals, And How To Change The World), pp. 322-329.
    “AVOID SHOPPING AS ‘RETAIL THERAPY’(Instead, jog, meditate, read, or find some other solution).
    SHOP CONSCIOUSLY – if there is something you must have, purchase items whose packaging, ingredients, and methods of production are sustainable and support life.
    Write letters telling Monsanto,De Beers, ExxonMobil, Adidas, Ford, GE, Coca-Cola, WALMART, and other labor exploiters and environment destroyers why you REFUSE to purchase from them.
    DOWNSIZE (your car, home, wardrobe) – everything in your life (and don’t buy what you don’t need) SUPPORT/SEND MONEY only to non-profits, radio stations,and other organizations that promote JUST causes.
    VOLUNTEER your time and energy to such organizations.
    ENCOURAGE stores to buy from local growers, producers, and suppliers.
    Shop at your LOCAL FARMERS’ MARKET
    AVOID DRINKING WATER THAT IS FLUORIDATED (only your toothpaste should have non-industrial fluoride)
    INSIST that those who use your money – banks, pensions, mutual funds, companies –make socially and environmentally responsible investments.” (end quote)
    21. Better still – invest in precious metals (silver/gold).
    22. Research every company whose products or services you buy (who do THEY support financially – globalist Presidential candidates?)
    23. Research every organization to which you donate your hard-earned money
    24. Vote with your dollars!
    25. Watch ‘The Secret of Oz’– a film by William T. Still (can be found here:
    26. Get prepared for when the U.S. dollar TOTALLY COLLAPSES, and loses it’s place, as the world’s sole reserve currency. The ‘globalists’(European Central Bankers, like the Rothschilds, and the Rockefellers, as well) are planning to reduce the American Middle Class to the status of the Third World poor. That is, they are going to wipe out the American ‘Middle Class’. That is why they shipped our jobs overseas. That is why they engineered the current economic ‘downturn’. That is why no bankers have gone to jail, over their financial crimes – they are immune. There is no ‘justice’ in this system. It is owned, and operated by European Central Bankers, and their Allies in London, in Frankfurt, and on Wall St.
    27. Did I mention invest in silver (and gold)?
    28. Global, non-violent, NON-COMPLIANCE is the answer, of We the Plebs, to the ‘elite’ New World Order Bullshit!
    29. Find alternatives to EVERYTHING that they’ve set up, to entrap you in THEIR system. (Become a serious ‘prepper’)
    30. What would happen if 200 MILLION AMERICANS refused to pay their taxes, in 2012? (Just a hypothetical question)
    31. Familiarize yourself with the concept of BOYCOTT
    32. Corporate Membership in the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations):
    33. Don’t ever join a ‘secret’ society. Expand the above list, and share it with everyone you know!
    34. End the ‘Fed’. End the endless wars. End the completely fraudulent ‘war’ on drugs. End the completely fraudulent ‘war’ on ‘terror’. Bring the troops home. Defend American borders. Bring American jobs back to Americans. Ron Paul (Independent Party?) in 2012(?) Restore America NOW.