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Bill Clinton And The Pedophile: The Sex Scandal That Could Destroy Hillary’s Presidential Ambitions

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Bill Clinton - Public DomainWhy did a convicted billionaire pedophile named Jeffrey Epstein that pimped out underage girls to powerful men have 21 contact phone numbers for Bill Clinton?  And why did Clinton fly on “multiple occasions” to the private Caribbean island where Epstein regularly held wild sexual orgies?  Let me give you a hint: it was not to discuss politics over milk and cookies.  Every once in a while, we get a small peek into the twisted sexual world of the global elite.  In this case, a Florida lawsuit that alleges that Britain’s Prince Andrew had sex with a 17-year-old “sex slave” provided by Epstein is making headlines all over the planet.  But of potentially even greater importance is what this lawsuit is revealing about Bill Clinton.  If it can be proven that Bill Clinton had sex with underage girls provided by Jeffrey Epstein, that could potentially destroy any chance that Hillary Clinton has of winning the presidency in 2016.

The 17-year-old girl that Prince Andrew is alleged to have had sex with is named Virginia Roberts.  She is claiming that she once received $15,000 for having sex with him…

A teenage “sex slave” says she was paid $15,000 for bedding Britain’s Prince Andrew by the American billionaire who served as the royal’s procurer.

Virginia Roberts was 17 when Wall Street honcho and pedophile Jeffrey Epstein allegedly pimped her out to the prince.

“A lot of powerful men were part of Jeffrey’s scene, but I specifically remember Andrew,” Roberts told Britain’s Daily Mail.

And it is a fact that Jeffrey Epstein is a convicted sex offender.  He was convicted by a court of law for paying a 14-year-old girl 300 dollars to massage him and have sex with him…

Epstein’s sexual exploits have been documented since 2005, when a woman in Palm Beach contacted police saying that her 14-year-old daughter had been paid $300 to massage him and then have sex.

The claim prompted a nearly year-long investigation that led to the eventual charge of soliciting prostitution which came as part of a plea deal. He spent 13 months of a 18-month sentence in jail and remains a registered sex offender.

Since that time, approximately 40 other women have accused Epstein of sexual misconduct.

So needless to say, this is one very sick individual.

And right now the mainstream media in the U.S. is largely ignoring the fact that Bill Clinton flew down to Epstein’s private Caribbean island on “multiple occasions” between 2002 and 2005.  The following is from a British news source

Over the years, the casually-dressed, globe-trotting financier, who was said to log more than 600 flying hours a year, has been linked with Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey, Chris Tucker and Manhattan-London society figure Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of the late media titan Robert Maxwell.

Epstein reportedly flew Tucker and Spacey to Africa on his private jet as part of a charitable endeavour. Clinton, meanwhile, flew on multiple occasions in the same plane to Epstein’s private Caribbean island, Little St James, between 2002 and 2005 as he developed his philanthropic post-presidential career. It would later be alleged in court that Epstein organised orgies on that same private island in the US Virgin Islands.

A lot of Democrats are going to end up reading this article, and a lot of them are going to start making apologies for Clinton at this point.

So let’s get one thing straight.  It is not okay for anyone to have sex with underage girls.  Whoever breaks the law by doing so deserves to go to prison.  That includes Bill Clinton if it can be proven that he did this.

And without a doubt, Clinton and Epstein were very close.  In fact, court records show that Epstein had 21 different phone numbers for Clinton…

While Clinton was never deposed, lawyers obtained Epstein’s computerized phone directory, which included “e-mail addresses for Clinton along with 21 phone numbers for him, including those for his assistant (Doug Band),” according to a court filing.

In addition, Epstein had contact information for a whole host of other powerful politicians and celebrities

From his 97-page ‘black book’ of phone numbers and email addresses, it is clear Epstein had an impressive array of contacts.

When its contents were disclosed three years ago, the book was shown to include contact details for former US President Bill Clinton, ex-secretary of state Henry Kissinger, and Barbara Walters, then one of America’s most influential broadcasters.

Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson’s details are there, along with entrepreneur Donald Trump, members of the Kennedy family and former prime minister Tony Blair.

If this scandal is not covered up, it could eventually bring down a lot of people.

What makes things even worse for Bill Clinton (and others) is that Epstein apparently used hidden cameras to record the sexual trysts that were going on in his guest bedrooms.  The following is from an article that appeared in the Mirror

Prince Andrew’s tycoon pal may have taken compromising photos of him with the underage girl he is alleged to have abused.

Details buried in original court papers filed against pervert Jeffrey Epstein, 61, reveal that he recorded the sordid orgies he threw for VIPs at his luxury homes using cameras hidden in the walls of guest bedrooms.

So if Bill Clinton did commit a crime, somewhere there may actually be video of it.

But wait, there’s even more to this story.  The following comes from the Daily Mail

The lawsuit claims that Clinton was friends with an unnamed woman who ‘kept images of naked underage children on her computer, helped to recruit underage children for Epstein… and photographed underage females in sexually explicit poses‘.

While he cut off ties with Epstein, this woman’s abuses apparently did not end their relationship as she was reportedly one of the 400 guests at Chelsea Clinton’s 2010 wedding.

Though the lawsuit may be bringing up sexual skeleton’s from Clinton’s past, he has added to the drama of late by posing for a photo with two known prostitutes at a fundraiser in Los Angeles last month.

Obviously Bill Clinton has a lot of hard questions that he needs to answer.

But if Bill Clinton cannot be charged with a crime, will the American people even care what else he did?

After all, there is a long history of the American people being willing to overlook his sexual promiscuity.

For example, in a book published last year entitled “The First Family Detail: Secret Service Agents Reveal the Hidden Lives of Presidents“, it was documented that one of Clinton’s latest girlfriends known as “the Energizer” sometimes brought cookies to the Secret Service agents that guard Bill…

Energizer, who is described as charming and friendly, sometimes brought cookies to the agents, according to the book excerpts.

One told Kessler: “It was a warm day, and she was wearing a low-cut tank top, and as she leaned over, her breasts were very exposed. They appeared to be very perky and very new and full … There was no doubt in my mind they were enhanced.”

Kessler also reports that Hillary’s Secret Service detail informs Bill’s Secret Service detail when the former first lady is coming home, so Bill has time to get Energizer off the property and clean up any evidence.

That revelation certainly did very little to upset the Hillary for president bandwagon.

So will these new revelations about Bill’s relationship with Jeffrey Epstein have an impact?

We shall see…

  • kfilly

    Liberals don’t care. The ends justify the means. A lot of them are sick in the head.

    • MadAsHellYankee

      It isn’t just the liberals who are sick in the head.

      • Gay Veteran

        indeed

  • Sandbagger

    In the 1990’s when the Lewinsky scandal was hot, I recall ol’ “Slick Willy” saying, “Character doesn’t matter.”

    I doubt Hitlary’s reputation by association will make one iota difference to her chances of winning 2016.

    • Tim

      Sadly, I agree. As sick as this is, I don’t think anything will come of it.

      • rita

        her followers are rabid and will continue to INSIST and persist THAT SHE DESERVES to B pres.

        • 2Zymos

          And YOU will DO NOTHING EFFECTIVE to oppose it. When you will (with me and others) oppose it effectively, then we will not get her as preezy. And voting is NOT any longer effective enough… it will be more costly than that at this point.

    • paramore fan

      Guilt by association is WRONG. The Lewinsky Scandal was before my time so I don’t know what it was, but each person is an INDIVIDUAL and should never be judged based on what someone else does!

      I don’t like Hillary because of what she’s done, not because of what her husband has done.

    • LOL

      Why should she be guilty of what her husband did?

  • donna

    are u kidding me ? there is a list of 20 women who claim to have been raped, sexually assaulted, battered and/or mutilated by this animal and NOTHING has stopped him. We are supposed to think that some 17 year old is going to bring them down after all these years. She is looking for money and when in our society are we going to stop acting like some slutty 15-17 yr old is a sexual naif ? she knew what she was doing; might even have had more experience in some techniques than these men. Don’t put me on any jury for this one. Her father a world class jerk. I raised a daughter and i KNEW WHERE SHE WAS AT ALL TIMES. How, after 100 yrs, did we get to a situation where a woman did not go to a grocery unescorted to my daughter is MIA at 15 for enough hours to allow this to happen ? And you think the clinton machine is afraid of this ? he probably is excited at the challenge

    • apeiron

      I agree donna…I no longer believe these charges by women of being ‘sexually abused’ retroactively…if it wasn’t actionable then, it’s just a ploy now.

      • donna

        it was entirely actionable then. The victim is key and must be willing to press charges and testify. It is difficult to imagine what is involved in exposing a politically and socially connected man. Juanita brodderick said flat out she was afraid of “tax” agencies. In some cases evidence may not be strong enough. This happened to me in late 70s and after speaking to my physician and a police officer i just let it go. Ditto cosby. Yes motive is likely pecuniary and desire for revenge as almost all are beyond statute. Believe them. They both seem to have MO.

        • D

          How incredibly narrow minded and ignorant the two of you are…all you said is just one pathetic uneducated opinion…you’re both very sad products of humanity. We live in a very evil world and you remain in a bubble.

          • donna

            what the hell are u talking about ? i stated facts there are 20 women who have accused clinton of gross acts of felony assault and 26 for cosby and that statute of limitations have run their course. I offered explanation as to how justice system operates having been similarly victimized and advised by a lawyer, prominent NYC physician and police friend. even though Cosby cannot be legally charged he is doing EXACTLY what i was told in ’75 most men do: attempting to dig up dirt on his accusers many of whom are prominent women to discredit them. as if their personal lives infer his innocence. How is this uneducated and pathetic?

      • amuncat

        …as in Bill Cosby, and they were adults!

        • apeiron

          Exactly…no one can tell me that white women were afraid to accuse a black man of sexual misconduct in the late 60’s & early 70’s. Also the story Rolling Stone ran about an obviously false incident at UVA recently as well as the Duke lacrosse team story. Statistically, over 40% of ‘sexual misconduct’ accusations turn out to be false.

          • donna

            no white women were not afraid to accuse a black man of sexual assault, not misconduct, in the 60s or 70s. Not at all. My point was and is that attempting to get justice against a man who is politically and professionally connected was even harder than as it was still assumed females had some “virtue” but if they were living a liberated life style that would become even more easily than today the issue which made the man appear innocent and it was used. HOW OLD ARE THE PEOPLE COMMENTING ON THESE EVENTS. 15 or 20. How can it be that society has degraded to this degree.

    • Kim

      Duh

  • rixse

    I should have known this before hand, and I fell for the title. This rant is the typical BS coming out of FOX.The times ahead will tell the reality. Until then chill down.

    • Mike

      Haha!

  • prophesy

    Enough of the dirt bags in office. Can’t America come up with some decent people that have morals.

    • cecelia

      many still have morals, just not the financial means to buy an election.
      they’re all the same and nothings going to change with satan in control of this earth.
      this “scandal” will be put to rest without so much as a ripple on any of the players ponds..
      sad that this is what our world is coming to.

      • oatwillie

        We have the best government money can buy.

        • TheKing

          those who profess to be Patriot can indeed do something to win the next election. We have a candidate by the name of Carly FIORINA WHO is candid, highly intelligent, presents an immaculate appearance and gives meaningful speeches. IF we all donate heavily to her campaign there is a good chance, this person with high morals can become our next President. Please donate what you can and if enough of us do such, we can counter the big election buyers like Soros. This is our golden opportunity to put a decent person in the white house. Arise American Patriots take this next election away from the democrats; away from the crooks and away from the socialists/communists.

    • Tyler Tyler

      Elections are rigged. So wicked leaders come from evil world forces. Moral people have no chance to be elected at a Presidential leve.

      • laura m.

        I haven’t voted since the Reagan era. Politicians are useless bums, getting paid to kow tow to corp. bosses (puppets). Voting is a farce and things ain’t gonna get fixed with crooks and liars in office, incl. local and state levels. America has a zero future anyway

      • kensos

        you are so right not one person we elected in office is from are vote .they put who they want in office its so rigged we dont have a chance this countrys done..obama as president give me break..he aint even from this country….god help and bless us..

      • Kim

        Agreed. Furthermore, any decent qualified candidate would quickly become corrupted by the office itself. It’s a twisted system- doomed to failure and corruption.

    • BEO-JAR

      You don’t pick your Presidential candidate, Goldman Sachs does.

      • iris

        Much more likely, the CFR, Trilateral Commission, the Duponts and other 9 or so families which collectively run the world banks, including the Federal Reserve system, decide who can even gain a toe hold politically on the national levels, at least.

        As I’ve said before, all electronic devices can be pre programmed, hacked and re-programmed. Most elections use electronic voting machines. Most elections are most certainly rigged. That said, God see His own, and knows what we can bear and how to protect us. Rather than trying to take America back (lol) we need to be using the short time we have to serve God in faith and share the gospel in word and deed as much as possible. The citizenship of the Christian is in heaven, and Jesus will make it right when He returns.

        I hope these folks get locked away for a very long time, however, and wish my vote counted.

    • MacFly1

      not when the people don’t have morals.

    • Chris

      Mike Huckabee..

  • Jim Davis

    This is Eyes Wide Shut kind of stuff.

  • Robert Ketchen

    I would like to think that justice would prevail but….BIG BUT ! We are talking about the Clintons and slick willy will slide on this one as well as all the other times he has pulled this trick. The Clinton protection team more than likely all ready has found and destroyed all of the evidence on mister Clinton . The Clinton protection team is good at its job Just ask Diane Sawyer except she won’t answer ! If I was Mr. Epstein I would be very concerned for my good health for the next few hundred years ! The Clintons will not let this kind of betrayal go with out some kind of payback !

    • 2Zymos

      And will you let it go without “payback”? What more evidence do you need? There is guilty and then there is guilty in a court of law… even if you are unable to “prove it” for a court (rigged against you and for billy rapist clinton), he’s still guilty. All the court does is make it “legal” and legitimate (by prior agreed process) to punish — and then we have to have “rule of law” in existence to have “confidence” that the court judgement legitimizes the punishment.

      RULE OF LAW is DEAD in USA. Witness: billy rapes with impunity, corzine steals with impunity, illegal and treasonous man occupies potus office withimpunity (can’t even say his name without puking anymore)…
      And we watch it happen.

      • Gay Veteran

        you can toss in Bush’s war of aggression against Iraq and bailing out the Big Banks

  • Kent Harris

    You mess with the Clintons and you could end up being dead. They better be very careful when you mess with the elites.

    • amuncat

      Ask Vince Foster, and he was a “friend”!

    • donna

      i am not afraid of what is laughingly called a “MAN” in our culture. bill is a punk. there are two decent things he has done in his sorry life punch his step father down to ground for hitting his mother and going to north korea to escort some female journalists back to america. Hope he did not try to take advantage of them. AFRAID OF THE CLINtONS. ?

      me too !! sure i know those who would pay to see me take this jerk down.

  • bsfurg

    The dems will feel sorry for Hillary and make sure she get in as P I dont believe the rape it sounds as tho the girls did it for the money and now they want more…

  • MadAsHellYankee

    What’s worse, the canidate’s husband is a kid toucher or the canidate runs weapons to jihadis, and laughs when an American gets killed doing it?

    • 2Zymos

      What is tragic is “no one” has the balls to stop it from happening nor punish those doing it when discovered.

  • Jay Sprueill

    Don’t think for a minute that this type of scandal would influence anyone in the GOD fearing GREAT AMERICA, Sodom and gomorrah of the world.

  • Gay Veteran

    I detest Clinton for what he did to this country: NAFTA, allowing 6 corporations to control most of the media, etc.

    But this matter belongs before a grand jury.

    • 2Zymos

      The grand jury and the justice system is as corrupt as Clinton is. YOU will have to take matters in your own hands in the end. Count on it.

  • sharon oliveria

    Please Don’t Misunderstand My Statement, Its Very Wrong With 17 Yrs Old Girls, Some Its Their Goal To Get Him These Once In The Spot Light, I Am Not Naming Name’s, My Concern Is For Little Girl’s & Boys 5 Yrs Old,Used By These Animal’s, If Not Unto Death Certainly Ruined Mentally & Phys,Unless Jesus Free Them In Sessions, From The Royal’s In The UK To Every Country Across The World & In The Churches As Well, These Sex-Child-Human Traffic Represent An Evil That Has Not Been Stopped! Let Me Tell You! No! Better Still Let God Tell You,He Say’s,” These Evil Doer’s Will Be Revealed To The Light Of Day BEFORE MEN” Judgment Will Come To Them, & It Is Starting To Happen, God Say’s,”You Touch One Of My Little Ones, Better A

  • sharon oliveria

    Part 2 God Say’s “You Touch One Of These Little Ones, Better You Have A Lime Stone Tied Around Your Neck & Thrown Into The Sea” Judgment Will Be God’s Hand, Man’s Hand, Its Screaming For Justice, Is There Not One Honorable Judge That Will Pass Judgment In The Here & Now? Or Has The Whole World Gone Sin Crazy, Except Those That Walk With The Lord

    • paramore fan

      “You Touch One Of These Little Ones” is referring to followers of Jesus, not children.

      • guest

        No, Jesus is speaking of children.
        “Allow the little ones to come on to me, for such is the Kingdom of Heaven”.
        ” Truly I tell you, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it.”

  • amuncat

    I didn’t think anything could top Bill Cosby, but this does by a mile. This provides insight into the fact tact that these globalist are in it together, they all know each other…intimately

    This shows you that the rich and powerful think that the rules are for us, and don’t apply to them.

    Question: Isn’t Hillary afraid of getting an STD? LOL

  • rita

    forget about this crap.
    the klintuns were ELECTED BACK WHEN their crimes were publicized etc=rape, murder etc–THEY WERE ELECTED.not once BUT TWICE-
    forget all about THEM NOW.wake the F up and see what JUST HAPPENED w/boehner–OK ?
    see WHERE THIS NATION WENT.
    repubecans VOTED 4 boehner.
    boehner = pelousi
    TRILLIONS IN DEBT
    more bills are to be PASSED WITHOUT READING THEM/
    TRILLIONS IN DEBT
    SHAMNESTY
    NO BORDERS

    fughetabout these CLOWNS and save this nation via CONSTITUTIONAL CONSERVATIVES which BETTER GET IT ALL TOGETHER FAST
    along the lines of solidarity WITH CONSTITUTIONAL GUIDELINES and ONLY THE CONSTITUTION.

    WAKE UP.

  • Alleged Comment

    I heard Epstein like to m******e them on their legs so this guy has some kind of adolescent high school fantasy despite his age and billions.

  • Gay Veteran

    “…There is no morality without Jesus Christ….”

    bilge

    • Luis

      I understand where you are coming from, but if you read the next sentence after the one you quoted, you will see I was talking about Bible morality as found in the law of God in Exodus 20- not human morality. The Spirit of Christ is the only antidote to human selfishness. It is the only power that can bring man back into harmony with God, as explained in Romans 8:1-10.

      • paramore fan

        Bible morality? Exodus requires Christians & Jews to KILL people for a whole bunch of offenses!!!!! Back when America was a Christian nation we were jailing & hanging witches.

        I also saw new study that shows Christian Americans are more likely to support torture then non-religious Americans.

        • Luis

          During the early days of the nation of Israel, the people of Israel were under a Theocracy- direct rule by God Himself. Though you might beg to differ- as the lifegiver, God has the right to terminate it if He chooses. But no man on his own has the right to play God. At no point in time in the history of this nation has the United States been under a Theocracy. The death penalty is wrong, especially torture. I challenge any Christian that supports torture to show me from the Bible one verse where God condones it. Quite frankly, the very idea is sick beyond belief.

      • Gay Veteran

        I can think of several 100s of millions of people who disagree.
        Isn’t over half the world population NON-Christian?

        • Luis

          Ah yes, the old “argumentum ad populum”.

          • Gay Veteran

            as opposed to religious fantasy

          • Luis

            Could you please explain to me how evolution manages to consistently conjure up the Fibonacci numbers and the Golden Ratio in nature? That’s quite an accomplishment for a mindless process. And you accuse me of religious fantasy?

          • Gay Veteran

            and pray what does that have to do with Christianity being the only true religion???

          • Luis

            The Christian faith (to my knowledge) is the only religion that has the power of fulfillled prophecy to back up its claims.

          • Gay Veteran

            bilge

          • guest

            I get that you hate morality and reality, however, your railing changes neither.
            Foam at the mouth if you must, please keep it to yourself.
            P.S. Turn or burn.

          • Gay Veteran

            “I get that you hate morality and reality….”

            talking into a mirror, eh.

            I firmly believe in the Golden Rule. Do you?

          • guest

            If you believe in the golden rule then you must want everyone to treat you like garbage.

          • Gay Veteran

            I treat garbage comments like garbage.

          • guest

            I get that you’re disgusted with yourself, I would be too if my ‘joy’ came from another man bum rushing me (literally).

          • Gay Veteran

            poor pathetic bigot.
            bigots usually don’t hate just one groups, so who else do you hate?
            Jews? Muslims? Catholics? Latinos? Blacks?

          • VigilanteCaregiver

            So, when you can’t win – accuse ’em? You lost. Deal with it.

          • Gay Veteran

            hey junior, I wasn’t talking to you.
            or do you bigots stick together?

          • VigilanteCaregiver

            Just out of curiosity; are you even gay? So far you’ve claimed to be a patent lawyer, a petrochemical engineer, and a
            nuclear scientist. No credibility. Never mentioned any personal history. You’re probably just some kid
            looking to get a rise out of people.

          • Gay Veteran

            Just out of curiosity, do you believe in the Ten Commandments?

            Thy shalt not lie?

            “…So far you’ve claimed to be a patent lawyer, a petrochemical engineer, and a nuclear scientist….”

            the last 2 are LIES, and you know it you pathetic bigot

          • VigilanteCaregiver

            You posted those to me. It’s in your history, unless you edited.

          • Gay Veteran

            where’s the PROOF, you liar

          • Gay Veteran

            I see you answered my question. You do NOT believe in the Ten Commandments because you are a LIAR.
            and I fully expect you make up stuff about me, you pathetic LIAR

          • guest

            27and
            in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the
            woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men
            committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due
            penalty of their error. 28And
            just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave
            them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper,29being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, 30slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; 32and
            although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such
            things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give
            hearty approval to those who practice them.

          • Gay Veteran

            good parrot, Polly want a cracker?

          • Luis

            Hey GV, it’s Luis again. I’m glad to see you believe in the golden rule… how about the “golden ratio” as found in nature? Just curious what your thoughts are on that. I’m stIill trying to figure out what your religious beliefs are.

          • Gay Veteran

            “…Why do so many natural patterns reflect the Fibonacci sequence? Scientists have pondered the question for centuries. In some cases, the correlation may just be coincidence. In other situations, the ratio exists because that particular growth pattern evolved as the most effective. In plants, this may mean maximum exposure for light-hungry leaves or maximum seed arrangement.”

            “…Spiral Leaf Growth
            This interesting behavior is not just found in sunflower seeds.
            Leaves, branches and petals can grow in spirals, too.
            Why? So that new leaves don’t block the sun from older leaves, or so that the maximum amount of rain or dew gets directed down to the roots….”

          • Luis

            Thanks for getting back to me. I’m not sure all the golden ratios in nature can be explained away using efficiency as an argument. From spiral galaxies down to our dna… they all display Fibonacci numbers. Anyway, there are other things that can’t be explained away so easily. Things like love, laughter, a flower in full bloom, a playful puppy, the delightful sounds of a mocking bird… or how about that innate sense of right and wrong we all have. No matter who you talk to, every one knows its wrong to kill, steal, lie, etc. Think about it… how did that get so deeply programmed into our psyche?

          • Gay Veteran

            read “The Age of Reason” by Thomas Paine

          • VigilanteCaregiver

            Thomas Paine in the Age of Reason claimed he believes in God and hopes for an afterlife, his mind is his own version of Church, that Churches as constituted in the 18th Century were for making money rather than their professed purpose, and he also stated that no one should be belittled or disparaged for attending and supporting these Churches of their own will.

            Maybe you should reread his book…

          • Gay Veteran

            maybe you need to provide some quotes to back up your comments.

            Paine was a Deist.

            “Deism is not a specific religion but rather a particular perspective on the nature of God. Deists believe that a creator god does exist, but that after the motions of the universe were set in place he retreated, having no further interaction with the created universe or the beings within it. As such, there are a variety of common religious beliefs that deists do not accept.

            No Need for Worship:

            Because the deist god is entirely removed from involvement, he has neither need nor want of worship. Indeed, deists commonly hold that God does not even care if humanity believes in him.

            Rejection of Prophets:

            Because God has no desire for worship or other specific behavior, there is no reason for him to speak through prophets nor send representatives of himself among humanity.

            Rejection of Supernatural Events:

            God, in his wisdom, created all of the desired motions of the universe during creation. There is therefore no need for him to make mid-course corrections through the granting of visions, miracles and so forth.

            Methods of Understanding God:

            Because God does not manifest himself directly, he can only be understood through the application of reason and through the study of the universe he created. Deists have a fairly positive view of human existence, stressing the greatness of creation and the faculties granted to humanity such as the ability to reason. As such, deists reject all forms of revealed religion. Any knowledge one has of God should come through their own understanding, experiences and reason, not the prophecies of others.

            Deist Views of Organized Religions:

            Because deists accept that God in uninterested in praise and that he in unapproachable via prayer, there is little organized religion surrounding deist beliefs. Deists often feel that organized religion add layers of untruth to the reality of God. Some deists, particularly historical ones, however, saw a value in organized religion for the common folk, because religion could instill positive concepts of morality and sense of community.

            Origins of Deism:

            Deism originated in the Ages of Reason and Enlightenment in the 17th and 18th centuries. During this time, many more people became interested in scientific explanations about the world and became more skeptical of magic and miracles.

            Famous Deists:

            A large number of United States Founding Fathers were deists or had strong deist leanings. Some of them identified themselves as Unitarians, a non-Trinitarian form of Christianity that emphasized rationality and skepticism. These deists include Benjamin Franklin, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine, James Madison and John Adams.”

          • VigilanteCaregiver

            So, you don’t provide any quotes either…

            Lazy…

          • Gay Veteran

            hey Einstein, YOU are the one making the assertions

          • Luis

            I’m well acquainted with the guy. No thanks. Not a fan of Thomas Paine. We’ll have to agree to disagree on that one.

          • VigilanteCaregiver

            It means you are claiming that unverifiable science has proven God doesn’t exist. Something science is not capable of doing. And it’s also something your lot has never actually explained because those theories cannot be proven, so the subject is feigned in favor of attacking of Christians with weak and easily debunked arguments and accusations.

          • Gay Veteran

            “It means you are claiming that unverifiable science has proven God doesn’t exist. Something science is not capable of doing….”

            uh, just when did I claim that science has proven god doesn’t exist? nice strawman you built

            :…attacking of Christians with weak and easily debunked arguments and accusations.”

            well if they are so weak and easily debunked then it is odd YOU are incapable of rebutting them

          • VigilanteCaregiver

            Straw man means I misrepresented your argument. That’s not in anyway part of my post. Can’t even accuse someone of fallacy correctly…

          • Gay Veteran

            do you even read what you write???

            “It means you are claiming that unverifiable science has proven God doesn’t exist. Something science is not capable of doing….”

            AGAIN: just when did I claim that science has proven god doesn’t exist?

            and how do you prove a negative?

          • VigilanteCaregiver

            That was in previous posts I was referencing.

          • Gay Veteran

            eyeroll.
            in other words you got nothing

          • VigilanteCaregiver

            I’ve provided information proving your lifestyle is a physical health danger and a mental disorder. No wonder the CDC and health departments are tracking you and yours. And the best you’ve got is the usual nasty comments under the belief that your ideas and beliefs are above reproach.

          • Gay Veteran

            you are stone cold stupid, and nothing but a bigot.
            you use “science” to support your bigotry, utterly pathetic:

            A person should not be said to have a mental illness unless the person’s actions substantially impair their ability to function in their work or personal life. Homosexuality does not impair one’s ability to function; it does not impair a person’s ability to fulfill their responsibilities at work, and does not prevent them from creating and maintaining meaningful and healthy personal relationships.

          • VigilanteCaregiver

            Did I say you should loose your liberty? No. In previous posts, I said it’s not a psychiatric illness that requires loss of liberty. It’s a mental illness that the individual must seek medical help of their own will. Reread the references from the APA as to ability in work and life.

            And relying heavily on verbally abusing others when you can’t win a debate is just weakness. Shows you have no actual argument. If you really are a lawyer, you’d know that already.

          • Gay Veteran

            wow, you sure are obsessed with homosexuality.

            and you refuse to address:

            A person should not be said to have a mental illness unless the person’s actions substantially impair their ability to function in their work or personal life. Homosexuality does not impair one’s ability to function; it does not impair a person’s ability to fulfill their responsibilities at work, and does not prevent them from creating and maintaining meaningful and healthy personal relationships.

          • Gay Veteran

            you are lying yet again

          • VigilanteCaregiver

            You’re right, mate. All these guys have is pseudoscience and coercion.

          • Gay Veteran

            pseudoscience is what you have been peddling
            and who is being coerced? oh now I get it, somebody pushes back against your idiotic arguments and somehow you are the one being coerced. pathetic

          • VigilanteCaregiver

            Okay, then how about this:

            Ejaculate contains immunosuppressive compounds. With normal male/female relations, this allows the male seed to survive the immune defenses of the female.

            The end result is that the rest of the body is also affected by the immunosuppressives in ejaculate, and makes sodomy a most efficient manner of transmitting HIV and other infections such as Rectal Cancer, Chlamydia, Cryptosproidium, Giardia Lamblia, Herpes Simplex, HPV, Isopora Belia, Gonorrhea, Hepatitis B & C, Syphilis, etc.

            S. S. Witkin and J. Sonnabend; “Immune Responses to Spermatozoa in Homosexual Men,” Fertility and Sterility; 1983; 39(3): 337-342, pp. 340-341

            Dr. John R. Diggs, Jr, MD: “The Health Risks of Gay S ex”; 2002, pp. 3

          • Luis

            That about sums it up.

            I noticed yesterday Gay Veteran is equivocating and not stating his position clearly. It makes it difficult to have a discussion with him. I’m still not sure if he believes in intelligent design or not, and if he does, which religion he thinks is the correct one. On the other hand, if he does not belive in intelligent design, then how does he explain the “Golden Ratio” that pervades almost everything in nature.

            Thank you for sharing you thoughts VigilanteCaregiver. Have a blessed day!

          • VigilanteCaregiver

            Thanks Luis. And you’re right about the golden ratio.

        • Guddjek

          The comment religion is the only true religion because it is said so in this comment.

          If you do not believe that the above is good enough proof taht the comment religion is true, you are confused, blinded by the evil powers of the flying spagetti monster.

  • evoval

    As if enough already hasn’t been done to destroy Hillary’s chance or the Clinton name in general. Starting with NAFTA! Screwing a few women is one thing, screwing an entire nation is another SUCKERS!!!

  • rixse

    And here is a damper for Bush clan… The coup was aimed at toppling President Franklin D Roosevelt with the help of half-a-million war veterans. The plotters, who were alleged to involve some of the most famous families in America, (owners of Heinz, Birds Eye, Goodtea, Maxwell Hse & George Bush’s Grandfather, Prescott) believed that their country should adopt the policies of Hitler and Mussolini to beat the great depression.
    “http://ringoffireradio.com/2014/12/a-short-primer-on-the-jeb-bush-sordid-family-history/”

  • BerniMac

    The satanism runs rampant throughout the elite & children are the Main attraction just look at the Documentary “conspiracy of silence” if you haven’t seen it hold onto your seat so actually nothing will derail the campaign trail of any of them. Things like the “grove” out in cali the people who have witnessed sacrifices. …you can shake your head & say no way but the evidence is hidden in plain sight all ya gotta do is LQQK

  • Jobe

    I love it how gays get all righteous, as if their sexual appetites are absolutely natural.

    It’s a perversion.

    • Gay Veteran

      I love it how you get all self-righteous, as if your hatred was absolutely natural.
      f-ing pharisee

      • Hetero Veteran

        Hatred?

        You make it sound like “hate” is a bad thing. Yes, I hate. I hate lies, I hate intentional perversions of nature, I hate sickness, I hate dysfunctional psychology propagated as truth and “normal.” And I hate it when these truths are censored and silenced because they go against the powers that be.

        Media outlets like ABC News And Yahoo News wont allow these comments on their sites and quickly remove them. Then you read about the “lesbian sex scandal” at Yahoo, and it all makes sense…the fox is guarding the media hen house: http://en.protothema.gr/lesbian-sex-scandal-at-yahoo/

        Now if you are looking for me to say, I hate YOU or I hate GAYS…you are out of luck. It is the behavior, not the person that I issue with. It is wrong and destructive to the body and spirit. The AIDs epidemic is proof of it. The high depression/suicide rate among gays is another..and it’s not because of lack of acceptance in our liberal society, but rather because there is something fundamentally flawed in the psychological makeup of the person. Often overlooked is not that gays like the same sex, but rather, dislike the opposite sex..and there stems the problem.
        It is no coincidence that many homosexuals have been sexually abused as children. But just like the alcoholic in denial, the homosexual is in denial and have grown in prominence through professional cronyism to show they are “OK.” I saw it for myself in the US military which has a significant lesbian population (before it was openly permitted). Ironically the same lesbian commander would not allow pin-up posters of swimsuit models in my dorm room come inspection. But did arrange a tete-a-tete with another female enlisted soldier in Hawaii. Oh, and this soldier also got her orders magically changed to be station in Hawaii as well when the commander moved there.

        Abandon your sins Gay Veteran, and turn to Christ. It will change your world.

        • VigilanteCaregiver

          If I may interject for a moment…

          The American Psychological Association didn’t really drop homosexuality as a mental disorder. In their published statement #730008, “Homosexuality and Sexual Orientation Disturbance:
          Proposed Change in DSM-II” the association changed it from a psychosis to a mental disorder under a different name “Sexual Orientation Disturbance (Homosexuality)” in section 302.0 of the DSM II.

          They also noted that people would claim the association is calling it normal and stated on page 3, paragraph 3: “What will be the effect of carrying out such a proposal? No doubt, homosexual activist groups will claim that psychiatry has at last recognized that homosexuality is as “normal” as heterosexuality. They will be wrong. In removing homosexuality per se from the nomenclature we are only recognizing that by itself homosexuality does not meet the criteria for being considered a psychiatric disorder. We will in no way be aligning ourselves with any particular viewpoint regarding the etiology or desirability of homosexual behavior.”

          • Hetero Veteran

            Thanks for sharing this. Very interesting.

          • Gay Veteran

            still peddling the same old crap.

            you fail to understand that science is self-correcting.

            “…In a review of published studies comparing homosexual and heterosexual samples on psychological tests, Gonsiorek (1982) found that, although some differences have been observed in test results between homosexuals and heterosexuals, both groups consistently score within the normal range. Gonsiorek concluded that “Homosexuality in and of itself is unrelated to psychological disturbance or maladjustment. Homosexuals as a group are not more psychologically disturbed on account of their homosexuality” (Gonsiorek, 1982, p. 74; see also reviews by Gonsiorek, 1991; Hart, Roback, Tittler, Weitz, Walston & McKee, 1978; Riess, 1980).

            Confronted with overwhelming empirical evidence and changing cultural views of homosexuality, psychiatrists and psychologists radically altered their views, beginning in the 1970s.

            …Some psychologists and psychiatrists still hold negative personal attitudes toward homosexuality. However, empirical evidence and professional norms do not support the idea that homosexuality is a form of mental illness or is inherently linked to psychopathology….”

          • VigilanteCaregiver

            That’s a single opinion – not actual science.

            The APA didn’t change their views because of empirical evidence. They changed it due to threats of lawsuits and abuse from gay activists. It’s in the record I cited.

          • Gay Veteran

            from your very own quote:
            “…In removing homosexuality per se from the nomenclature we are only recognizing that by itself homosexuality does not meet the criteria for being considered a psychiatric disorder….”

          • Gay Veteran

            the actual science is out there, but since you’re a bigot you won’t accept it.

          • VigilanteCaregiver

            Bigot? Seriously, have you read your posts. The only proven bigot is you: calling Christianity bilge and maligning those who practice it, pelting out accusations and impertinent name calling when you can’t come up with an argument. I have provided what’s out there and you won’t accept it because it ruins your lifestyle.

            And yet again, I am wasting my shop time corresponding with someone who is incapable of debate and civilized discourse.

          • Gay Veteran

            don’t be ashamed to be a bigot, own up to it, be honest.

            impertinent? wow, troll learned a new word

          • Gay Veteran

            “…The only proven bigot is you: calling Christianity bilge and maligning those who practice it….”
            no, I condemn those smug self-righteous Pharisees like YOU who constantly demean and demonize gays, and would love to use the power of the state to impose your religious interpretations on everybody else

          • Gay Veteran

            If I may interject for a moment…

            A person should not be said to have a mental illness unless the person’s actions substantially impair their ability to function in their work or personal life. Homosexuality does not impair one’s ability to function; it does not impair a person’s ability to fulfill their responsibilities at work, and does not prevent them from creating and maintaining meaningful and healthy personal relationships.

        • Gay Veteran

          you need to abandon your self-righteousness.
          put 10 Christians in a room with a Bible verse and you’ll get 11 different interpretations.

          • Hetero Veteran

            “well let’s see, AIDS started about in African and affected mainly heterosexuals, and around 1980 hit Gays. what , was god too busy before 1980 to punish us?”

            Well, there was that incident concerning the ancient city of Sodom (where the word sodomy originates from). But many claim it to be fable, although Jesus made reference to it (Luke 17:28)

            AIDS was propagated globally by IV- drug abusers and homosexuals. Coincidence? No, both are destructive, unnatural addictions to something perverse that abuse the body.
            ………….
            like heterosexuals don’t do the same thing


            I never witnessed it nor even hear rumor of such during my time in service. You? But I did meet one female soldier who was looking forward to the end of her enlistment. Her complaint? Too many lesbians around and she found their subtle advances disgusting.

          • Gay Veteran

            “…both are destructive, unnatural addictions to something perverse that abuse the body….”

            riiiiiiiiiiight, which is why homosexuality is found in nature but not drug abuse

          • Hetero Veteran

            Cannibalism and Infanticide is found in nature too, so it must be OK for humans huh? So what you are saying is that you and your abnormal behavior is no better than that of animals because it exists in nature?

          • Gay Veteran

            so infanticide is the moral equivalent of homosexuality?

            are you actually that stone cold stupid?

            oh wait, I forgot, we have to bow to your moral superiority.

            you smug, self-righteous Pharisee, don’t you have a street corner to pray loudly at?

          • VigilanteCaregiver

            They did find Sodom and those other cities near the Dead Sea. They had nearly pure sulphide meteorites imbedded in the stonework. What happened there really did take place.

          • Gay Veteran

            is the ark there too?

  • tigersfan61

    To believe that Bill Clinton will EVER be connected to this story (other than through places like this) is absurd…The main stream media will NEVER touch this and it will NEVER see the light of day…why? because the liberal media will do their best to keep it quiet…Bill Clinton is a sexual pervert, always has been and always will be…oh and ask Kathleen Wiley about his being a rapist…

  • Neither Hillary Rodham Clinton’s political aspirations nor William Jefferson “Bill” Clinton’s legacy as the 42nd President of the United States will suffer from this latest scandal involving the latter’s association with Jeffrey Epstein, a convicted billionaire pedophile who auctioned underage girls to a host of unsavory characters (geopolitical luminaries, corporate executives of Fortune 500 Companies, business tycoons, the heirs to various dynastic orders, etc.) operating at the outer fringes of the Globalist Patriarchy. This is due, in large part, to the fact that the telecommunications industry, together with its constituents in printed news publication, have been told to bury these sordid revelations by a nebulous coterie of malefactors, a nefarious ensemble which a vast majority of the general public remains woefully ignorant of. The fact that 90% of the content being actively disseminated to prospective viewing audiences throughout the continental United States, as well as its outlying territorial municipalities, is consistently manipulated through the monetary influence of 6 corporate entities (GE – General Electric, News Corp, Disney, Viacom, Time Warner, and CBS – Columbia Broadcasting System) recognized as one of the primary reasons for the censorship of pertinent details/ information which would otherwise be deemed “too sensitive” to the reputations of the intergovernmental establishment and their criminalist entourage in the prevailing sociopolitical schema.

  • Very simply and bluntly …America is getting tired of scandal sheet presidential politics ….and it is very alarming that we are so blind that we allow dynasties of this corruption become the foundations of our destruction … Wake up Voter !

    • Jobe

      The midterm election was something of a surprise in spite of polling. I think if this continues, the US may see its first independent party president come 2016.

  • paramore fan

    You really do believe in guilt by association? I’m not implying I like Hillary (I don’t) but i’m fair enough not to judge someone based on what their spouse has done!!!

  • Dale A

    People, this is just more of the “vast right wing conspiracy”. Yeah right.

  • genesis667 .

    Yeah because we know gays never touch the little boys….

    • Gay Veteran

      project much?
      you tell those lies about Jews too?

  • JB

    Oh really? So you think man on his own has morals? Has that played out to be true? Gay Veteran – gee, that doesn’t give your world view away… Give me a break!

    • Gay Veteran

      “…So you think man on his own has morals?….”

      lots of people around the world are moral without being Christian or even believing in any god

  • VigilanteCaregiver

    Very concise. Thank you! :)

  • Kim

    More evidence that Satan is in control of things. His followers certainly reflect his sick and twisted desires.

    • Yes Kim. Satan is the God of this Wicked system
      here on Earth.

    • guest

      Yes and yet there are many among us who say “homo’s are good people with different tastes”.
      The Clinton pedo scandal runs far deeper than what has been exposed and yes, Hillary was intimately involved with the whole thing. They all are.

      • Gay Veteran

        well Einstein, gays are good people with different tastes.
        but little religious fascists like you hate that

  • Kim

    Take a look at the Bill Cosby situation. No less than 26 women have come forward and claim to have been sexually assaulted by him and the public, especially the media, defend him and vilify these women for coming forward. How can we expect that anyone is going to take a stand against such crimes?

    • guest

      The timing is suspect. Women crying ‘rape’ should be suspect, these days.

  • LarsLonte

    News UK News Child abuse
    Sickest of the sick: DATING WEBSITE for PAEDOPHILES exposed by Mirror investigation
    Dec 06, 2014 23:16 By Gemma Aldridge
    A Sunday Mirror investigation discovered Family4Love.com encourages male and female paedophiles to get together and raise their own little victims to rape and abuse

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/sickest-sick-dating-website-paedophiles-4762590

    – See more at: http://americanfreepress.net/?p=21576#comment-10382

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/sickest-sick-dating-website-paedophiles-4762590

    – See more at: http://americanfreepress.net/?p=5116#sthash.QIr7iJuZ.dpuf

    http://americanfreepress.net/?p=5116

    Victim Claims Sandusky Sex Scandal Connected to Philadelphia Pedophile Network

    JULY 22, 2012 AFP NO COMMENTS

    By Victor Thorn

    On November 11, 2011, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania radio talk show host Mark Madden dropped a bombshell during an appearance on Boston’s WEEI when he told radio talk show hosts John Dennis and Gerry Callahan, “I hear there’s a rumor that there will be a more shocking development from the The Second Mile (TSM)—and hold on to your stomachs, boys, this is gross—that Jerry Sandusky and the Second Mile were pimping out young boys to rich donors.”

    Now, further evidence that Jerry Sandusky’s TSM was being used to traffic underage boys to wealthy donors took a major step forward via a July 19 interview with Greg Bucceroni, currently employed as a school police officer in the Philadelphia, Pa. school district while also volunteering with the District Attorney’s office.

    – See more at: http://americanfreepress.net/?p=5116#sthash.JSTfE8rw.dpuf

    http://americanfreepress.net/?p=5116

  • guest

    We don’t have another decade, let alone another century. Otherwise, I agree.

  • Gay Veteran

    I leave you to your missionary mission.
    But you can p iss off if you think you can dictate what sexual acts are acceptable.

    • Chad3434

      Dud you are one sick puppy.

      • Gay Veteran

        project much?

        • Chad3434

          Just saying you have a messed up head. Of course that is obvious to every one on here.

          • Gay Veteran

            again, project much?

  • Gay Veteran

    you still have a problem with this:

    A person should not be said to have a mental illness unless the person’s actions substantially impair their ability to function in their work or personal life. Homosexuality does not impair one’s ability to function; it does not impair a person’s ability to fulfill their responsibilities at work, and does not prevent them from creating and maintaining meaningful and healthy personal relationships. Additionally, homosexuals are as psychologically healthy as heterosexuals. (Strickland, B.R. (1995). Research on sexual orientation and human development: A commentary. Developmental Psychology, 31, 137-140).

  • Gay Veteran

    I bet it makes you excited to toss out words like “perversion” and “disgusting”.
    don’t you have a street corner to pray loudly at?

  • DB200

    “Every once in a while, we get a small peek into the twisted sexual world of the global elite. ”

    Google on ‘Bohemian Grove’ and you well get a good picture about the twisted world of the global elite. It is more than just strange sexual behaviour.

  • K2

    Michael,i suspect bill doesnt care if hillary wins or not This even before i read the part where he deliberately posed with the two prostitutes for the picture. And reading that, confirmed it.