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A New Way To Be Human: The Plan Is To Replace Existing Humans With ‘Transhuman’ Hybrids

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Transhumanism - Public DomainTranshumanists believe that the time has come for humans to take control of their own evolution.  Many of them are fully convinced that we can use emerging technologies to “fix” the flaws in the human race and ultimately eradicate sickness, disease, poverty and war.  So would you like to have the eyesight of an eagle?  Would you like to download an entire library of information directly into your brain in just minutes?  Would you like to rid your family line of all genetic diseases?  Would you like to extend your lifespan to 500 years or even longer?  Transhumanists promise that all of these things will soon be possible, if we are willing to embrace a new way of doing things.  They foresee a future in which we will all have lots of little nanobots running around inside of us, in which we are all connected directly to the Internet, and in which we have all been genetically modified to at least some degree.  In fact, one prominent transhumanist recently stated that he believes that “eventually every human will be designed on a computer“.  In the end, the goal is to produce a vastly improved version of the human race which will usher in a golden new age for the planet.  But as we merge ourselves with animals, machines and weird new technologies that scientists cook up, at what point do we cease to be human?

And when I say “weird new technologies”, I am not overstating things in the least.  Just consider what one transhumanist says that they have planned for us

As with all radical social movements, there is bound to be resistance. After all, transhumanists are interested in some pretty bizarre things: mind uploading, living indefinitely through life extension science, biohacking themselves to install cyborg body parts, and creating artificial general intelligence. Each of these areas of research will radically change the lives of people—and some, such as cyborg body parts, are already doing so.

Once upon a time, the only people that talked about “cyborgs” were science fiction geeks.

But today, many transhumanists speak of us becoming “cyborgs” as if it was some sort of foregone conclusion.  It is almost as if they are the Borg, and they are telling us that there is no choice but to assimilate.

And this assimilation is already happening to a certain degree.  If the idea of humanity “merging with machines” sounds bizarre to you, just check out the following excerpt from a recent Vice article

Next up are brain implants, tiny computer chips inserted surgically directly into the brain itself. So far, they’ve been used mainly to help treat patients suffering from Parkinson’s disease and other neurological conditions such as Alzheimer’s and epilepsy.

But some scientists are now tinkering with brain implants that enable more physical pursuits, from controlling people’s prosthetic limbs to ​restoring movement in paralyzed rats. Scientists say that the capabilities of brain implants are only in their infancy, and some of them envision a near-future where brain implants can even be installed in healthy people to connect them directly to the internet and improve memory] a la Black Mirror. The US military agency DARPA is already building such memory chips, and wants to develop implants that could be installed throughout a soldier’s nervous system to provide advanced, on-the-spot healing of conditions from mental illness to arthritis.

Of course most of those developing these new technologies believe that they are doing something wonderful for humanity.

And in many cases they are.

But at what point do we enter a danger zone?

In a previous article , I noted that one recent survey discovered that approximately one-fourth of all professionals in the 18 to 50-year-old age bracket would like to connect their brains directly to the Internet.

I don’t know about you, but that is something that I will never be doing.

Meanwhile, scientists continue to push the envelope when it comes to merging humans with animals.

Most people don’t realize this, but today we are creating genetically modified cattle with human DNA, we are growing human kidneys in rats, and we are experimenting on human-mouse hybrids with freakishly large brains.

Once again, those involved in this kind of research believe that they are finding “cures for diseases” or that they are working to make life better for all of us somehow.

But when we combine animals and humans, what exactly are we creating?

Are they animals?

Are they humans?

And where do we draw the line?  Will we someday have creatures that are 50 percent human and 50 percent animal walking around our cities?

For much, much more on this, please see my previous article entitled “The Era Of Chimeras: Scientists Fearlessly Create Bizarre Human/Animal Hybrids“.

Another area that transhumanists are extremely excited about is the ability to use technology to genetically edit our children.

At Harvard, researchers now believe that it will soon be possible to completely remove genetic diseases from our family lines

As I listened to Yang, I waited for a chance to ask my real questions: Can any of this be done to human beings? Can we improve the human gene pool? The position of much of mainstream science has been that such meddling would be unsafe, irresponsible, and even impossible. But Yang didn’t hesitate. Yes, of course, she said. In fact, the Harvard laboratory had a project to determine how it could be achieved. She flipped open her laptop to a PowerPoint slide titled “Germline Editing Meeting.”

Here it was: a technical proposal to alter human heredity.

“Germ line” is biologists’ jargon for the egg and sperm, which combine to form an embryo. By editing the DNA of these cells or the embryo itself, it could be possible to correct disease genes and to pass those genetic fixes on to future generations. Such a technology could be used to rid families of scourges like cystic fibrosis. It might also be possible to install genes that offer lifelong protection against infection, Alzheimer’s, and, Yang told me, maybe the effects of aging.

And “maybe the effects of aging”?

Life extension technologies are something that many transhumanists are particularly obsessed with.

For example, Bloomberg recently did an interview with one technology executive that believes that it will eventually be possible for all of us to live to the ripe old age of 500…

“If you ask me today, is it possible to live to be 500? The answer is yes,” Bill Maris says one January afternoon in Mountain View, California. The president and managing partner of Google Ventures just turned 40, but he looks more like a 19-year-old college kid at midterm. He’s wearing sneakers and a gray denim shirt over a T-shirt; it looks like he hasn’t shaved in a few days.

Maris is using his position to pour millions upon millions of dollars into companies that are developing radical life extension technologies that they hope will enable people to live for hundreds of years.  Maris just hopes that he can stay alive long enough to take advantage of them…

“We actually have the tools in the life sciences to achieve anything that you have the audacity to envision,” he says. “I just hope to live long enough not to die.”

And of course Maris is far from alone.  The most famous transhumanist on the entire planet, Ray Kurzweil, is absolutely obsessed with immortality.  He takes 150 vitamin supplements a day in a desperate attempt to extend his life until more advanced life extension technologies can be developed.  In chapter 7 of “The Singularity Is Near: When Humans Transcend Biology“, he expressed his thoughts on where the future is taking all of us…

“Evolution moves toward greater complexity, greater elegance, greater knowledge, greater intelligence, greater beauty, greater creativity, and greater levels of subtle attributes such as love. In every monotheistic tradition God is likewise described as all of these qualities, only without any limitation: infinite knowledge, infinite intelligence, infinite beauty, infinite creativity, infinite love, and so on. Of course, even the accelerating growth of evolution never achieves an infinite level, but as it explodes exponentially it certainly moves rapidly in that direction. So evolution moves inexorably toward this conception of God, although never quite reaching this ideal. We can regard, therefore, the freeing of our thinking from the severe limitations of its biological form to be an essentially spiritual undertaking.”

But what about those of us that do not want to be a part of this future?

Is there any room for people that do not want to be genetically modified and that do not want to merge with animals and technology?

Some transhumanists believe that those that do not adapt will eventually be wiped out because they simply will not be able to survive in the new world that is emerging.

Other transhumanists believe that in order to truly have a world where there is no sickness, disease, poverty and war, all of the “inferior” humans will ultimately have to be “removed”.

But what almost all of them agree on is the fact that the future belongs to them and not to us.

So what do you think?  Is humanity on the verge of a great leap forward, or are these new technologies actually opening up a door for great darkness?  Feel free to tell us what you think by posting a comment below…

  • Bad Kitty Cat

    Since many here are religeously inclined (and I am in no way arguing with those who are not), let me remind you of the tower of Babel in the book of Genesis. What happened to those then and through history that try to become like God?

    Thus, I pray, but I won’t lose too much sleep over this… I have bigger problems :-)

    • Glenno

      They should have downloaded the babel fish app and it would have been “sweet”. Or maybe Google Translator for a aithiest?

    • Vennoye

      If you go back and read some of the ‘missing books of the Bible’ like the Book of Enoch, all of this transhuman-hybrid supposition sounds remarkably like some of the things that were happening when mankind was destroyed before. The hybrids lead to amazing evil rather than goodness.

  • BeenThere

    This comes under the heading of Science Fantasy. (a more extreme kind of Science Fiction)

    • Glenno

      On a serious note I must protest at the suggestion that us Transhumanist biohackers want to get rid of inferior models once we have developed the tech to merge with mech or mind. A more gentle group you won’t find than ours. All we want is for you to be all you can be. Whether that is with a God or a five hundred year life span, is up to you. The humanist value of harm nothing and impose your will on nobody remains. We simply wish to be the best we can be. If you don’t believe this evolutionary step, it’s ok. You may be right and God will step in. Or you may be wrong and the resulting explosion in AI drives us into an immortal expansion…who knows. I am betting on the science.

      • Uriel

        Riiiight. The self-appointed master race never does any harm to those not of the self- appointed master race. It’s small wonder that you seek to artificially increase your intelligence and artificially delay your appointment with St. Peter.

    • Carrie

      Yes, I think the author is pulling a leg or two with this article, as it is pulled directly from the British Sci-fi drama, Orphan Black. It’s a great show. And it is 100% fiction.

  • rawhunger .

    I think it’s great… and if we don’t kill ourselves before it happens, maybe humans (or human hybrids) will FINALLY evolve away from the primitive crap that keeps us down (like religion), and can finally find our place among the stars. I’d sign up for that! :)

  • K

    Mankind is already plagued by far to much arrogance. This would only feed that arrogance even further. It is the working through our pain and shortcomings, that truly make us human Create something genetically perfect, something that with an implant, that could turn off pain or grief. You would have something, it just would not be human. Nor do I think it would be very tolerant, towards such perceived lesser creatures.

    • InfoQuest

      Was that African baby being looked on by a hungry vulture any more human because of that? Or someone crippled because of osteogenesis imperfecta? What of the tens of millions of voters for McCain, Cameron and Obama? Who sincerely believed that Saddam Hussein was going to destroy western civilization?
      Or millions of people dying from radiation poisoning, epidemics or hunger sometimes in the near future?

      At 70 IQ, you are not human, you are a pet, a chihuahua walking on its hind legs.

      If anything, all these faults makes one less human. It is positive attributes that makes one a human.

      • K

        Thank-you for proving my point. You have not even been augmented yet. And already, you are comparing low IQ humans to dogs. IQ has nothing to do with humanity. Some of the smartest people I have ever met. I would not turn my back on. Go back in History, Hermann Göring had an IQ of 138. Seemed he did not score very high in the humanity department. It is generally held, that most psychopaths, have a high IQ. Intelligence.without humanity, is a very dangerous thing. No human, should ever dismiss another human. As being nothing more than a dog, no matter how challenged.

        • Hermes Mercury

          My partner works with level 1 and 2 antisocial teens. Most have IQs well below average. Acknowledging that you are not dealing with someone of average intelligence is important, but so is caring about them – which can be made harder when they are also anti-social (as in violent). We must all love one another – nor for religious reasons (although we are Wiccan) but because that is what gives us humanity and allows us to move forward together. On the other hand, should we help the unborn to have MORE than a 70 iq? I would say yes. Seriously, wouldn’t you?

      • guest

        How we treat the least among us determines our humanity, theirs isn’t in question.

      • Uriel

        Glenn Reynolds, is that you?

    • iris

      Isaiah 53, He has already borne all of our griefs and sorrows. He has given us peace through what He has already done for us on the Tree. To think that technology can solve mankind’s real problem, which is sin and the results of it, rather than looking at life from the outside in, is very foolish. Regardless of what we may think, we take ourselves with us, wherever and however we go. So what if we could live 1000 years in the state we’re in? Without God, it is meaningless, and meaninglessness is, well, crap.

      • iris

        Edit. We need to look at life from the inside out. Technology can only see the outside.

    • guest

      It’s interesting that there is absolutely no forgiveness for those who receive the mark of the beast.
      One train of thought says it’s because they become something other than human, (nephilim).

  • apeiron

    Now who was it that teased with ‘…you shall be as God’?

    • Glenno

      Rolling up to a dead sea barbecue in 35AD with a Tesla car, Apple iwatch and a bitchin beat on the bluetooth speaker would probably get you into the “Gods please enter from the left ” queue, wouldn’t you think? Perspective baby, perspective. Is there a God to a God?

  • Glenno

    What do you do if you don’t want to be part of the Transhumanist future? Don’t know, ask a Luddite…it didn’t work out well for them sadly. What happens when there are more of us than prehumanists? It ends the same way with a slow and gradual decline where we will eventually laugh at prehumanists the same as Luddites.

  • Jobe

    The funny thing is that many look at the longevity of ancient biblical figures like Methuselah or even the existence of Heaven and scoff, dismissing it as fantasy. Then we turn around and talk about the invisible dimensions of quantum physics and greatly extending human lives through technology and wholeheartedly believe it.

    There is nothing new under the sun, we have all been here before.

    • neilwani

      As generations got further away from Adam and Eve, the life span on people reached 70 years on the average. 80 years if they had the strength. If you take the average now days, it is in this range.

      • naked swimmer

        If the Noah’s Ark story is true I think another big reason
        for the decrease in lifespan is because all the water that covered the Earth
        added tons more gravity.

        • Jim Davis

          You are joking, right?

          • naked swimmer

            It is absurd but most people who visit this site follow the religion they were raised with. Just like if this was End of the Indian Dream the commenters would be talking about reincarnation. It’s human nature to blindly follow one’s culture.

          • Jim Davis

            Most of these evangelicals would have been ISIS or Taliban members if born in a different place. They are incapable of comprehending that though.

          • elysian

            Actually most adherents to ISIS, apart from Muslims are criminal misfits and secularists.You may have been a ISIS member if you were born in a different place too,but you weren’t so your statement is irrelevant.

          • M

            Too true! 99% of people I know who follow a religion, irrespective of what religion it is, follow it purely on blind faith as that is what they were raised with. At no point have any of them provided me with any evidence (other than The Bible, but by this logic Harry Potter exists) or reasonable logic, and a majority openly admit to not even looking at alternatives.

          • naked swimmer

            the problem with religion is that adherents make laws based on their religion instead of common sense. like when christians dominated America people were arrested for playing cards, baseball, fixing wheels, etc. on sunday. natives forced to cover up. People punished for witchcraft (not just in Salem). women ruled by men. The list is endless. i would be more interested in comparing/reading books like the bible, koran, tripiṭaka, etc. but knowing they’re used to suppress entire cultures it’s less exciting. Some people who read the bible are cool like my gf but most would call the cops if i was naked in the yard even though its hot enough to fry an egg. muslims are even worse–they kill those who don’t follow their book to the letter

          • elysian

            Through the ages lots of wicked people have used churches and the name ”Christian”as a cover.Most of the persecution victims were actually Christians not witches as is commonly thought.The heretical Roman catholic church killed Christians who questioned there unbiblical practices.Most of our laws today are based on laws in the bible not mans ”common sense”,but as you can see as the world drifts away from GOD and the bible things are going pear shaped.

          • ndlz84 .

            I agree with MOST of what you said, but you seem to emit some ignorance. For example, do you realise how many Muslims there are living peacefully amongst other faiths? It’s only a very small percent, the “extremists”, who are violent.

          • elysian

            I looked at all of the alternatives and practiced some of them too, but they all failed miserably against the bible.In spite of what spiritually ignorant people may say, Christianity is the oldest religion on the planet and offers the most.

    • Johnny G.

      Voila! You guessed it!

    • Gay Veteran

      “The funny thing is that many look at the longevity of ancient biblical figures like Methuselah or even the existence of Heaven and scoff, dismissing it as fantasy….”

      find that Ark yet?

  • neilwani

    Maybe when all the scientists dabbling in this die, this nonsense will die off with them. Why don’t they try this on each other first. It is a lovely statement on an obituary. He lies Professor Tom, a leader in transhuman technology. May he rest in peace.

  • DJohn1

    God is perfect. This theme goes throughout the entire Bible.
    So if God is so perfect, how come mankind(created by God) is so rift with genetic errors?
    Doctors have listed over 400 genetic diseases inflicted on mankind.
    That to me says that somewhere between Adam and Eve and the current day that many errors have slipped into the human cell programming. Part of which may be changes in the environment from what it was originally.
    Where did all the water come from? I suggest it was above our heads at one point in time, providing an almost perfect radiation barrier between us and outer space.
    So a lot of the so called “aging” might be a combination of radiation poisoning so small and hidden that we do not notice we are being poisoned from space.
    I am old. Got maybe 10-20 years left in my lifespan if I am lucky. My contemporaries in their 70s are dying every day of one disease or another. A lot of them are in the early stages of dementia.
    Science Fiction today, is science reality tomorrow.
    I noticed one early Science Fiction drama/comedy was Stargate.
    In that series, mankind merged with a parasitic advanced snake-like creature which then took over the body and soul of the person to become a hybrid creature with an almost immortal lifespan. The parasite essentially controlled the brain of the individual and gave in return repairs that kept it immortal.
    Also in that same series was a machine that rejuvenated human bodies with some kind of advanced electronic and magnetic influences. So advanced that even a dead person could be completely revived if you have the remains. Totally different than accepting the parasitic/symbiotic relationship with the snake like critter. The only way that machine could have done what it did was if the person was put into a reversible time bubble.
    The trick was to avoid accidental death or deliberate death by one’s enemies. Eventually the series drifted off track. The parasite could be removed. In the original it was a merger that was irreversible.
    Cancers do not age. The cancers are a fluke. A cancer cell in a lab can go on for generations.
    So the fact is we are all programmed to die. That death happens as we generate cells. Each cell has a little less data in it than the one it replaces. So by the age of 120-126 max, most humans are to the point where they no longer reproduce the original version of themselves. That is what aging is.
    But even there, hope exists. Because the body does not lose the data. It is still in certain cells of the body and those cells could be reproduced in the future to give a person their youth back.
    Do not expect it to happen in my lifetime. It is much more complicated than anyone realizes.

    • Jerusha

      Diseases and death are consequences of sin and the curse that was placed upon Adam and Eve for disobeying the Creator. Mercifully, He did provide a Way through His Son, Jesus Christ, to avoid the eternal consequence of sin and death.

      • DJohn1

        So everyone is condemned by the sin of Adam and Eve?
        I believe in Jesus Christ.
        I do not believe that everyone is condemned because of the actions of people more than four generations back.
        Adam and Eve, no one even knows when they lived. It could have been 200,000 years ago, or 6,000 years ago. We simply do not know.
        What we do know is that the genetic information in our cells is corrupted. I do not know of any other creature on the planet with a double, reproduce-able chromosome on both sides of the helix.
        That is direct evidence of manipulation of our genetic structure.

        According to Genesis we were made to look like them. Who “them” are is a question no one wants to answer.
        The honest approach is when we do not know is to simply say we do not know what happened way back when.
        I will go with realistic evidence over speculation by religious scholars.

        I do believe that the Holy Spirit does exist. Is active in the world today. And that there is more going on than anyone realizes.
        I think there is a hidden agenda and hidden warfare going on between God and forces opposed to God.
        There are things in this world we can change. There are things we cannot change. The trick is to know the difference.

        • Jerusha

          You profess a belief in Jesus Christ yet do not believe His Word. His Word is clear: Man was corrupted with disease/death/curse because of Adam and Eve’s disobedience in the Garden. We have been made in God’s image; I can only assume you are referencing Genesis 1:26 where God said, “Let Us…” in reference to “them.” That “Us” was the first clue that the Trinity existed.

          You’re right, there are things in this world we can change and things we cannot. One thing we cannot change is that it is appointed unto man to die. The only escape is through Jesus Christ. His Word is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow.

          • DJohn1

            The first indication of God and the trinity? Don’t think so.
            There are passages where God tested Abraham to see if he would sacrifice his own only son by his wife. Abraham was going to sacrifice his son. Only God prevented it with his angel. God is the alpha and omega. The beginning and the end. I read that to mean he is all places and all times capable of changing anything that God wants to change. In the passage you refer to, God is talking to the members of his court. Also referred to in Job.

          • Jerusha

            Are you denying the Trinity exists? Elohim does indicate One God with Three Distinct Personalities.

          • DJohn1

            Not at all. I question the nature of the relationship. The Father, alpha and omega, the beginning and the end, is in control. The Holy Spirit is next. Then Jesus is third.

            I look at it as you might look at a network. Al three are in perfect communication with one another.

          • Jerusha

            Blasphemous. Jesus was not created, He IS the Creator. God the Father desires that Jesus Christ’s Name be glorified greater than His. Jesus is I Am. God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit are One and have always been in existence as the Trinity.

          • Gay Veteran

            I love you “Christians” fighting each other.
            Put 10 Christians in a room with a Bible verse and you’ll get 11 different interpretations

          • Jerusha

            there’s been no fighting, just discussion.

          • Gay Veteran

            “Blasphemous. Jesus was not created….”

            riiiiiiiiiiiight, nothing like a fight between fundamentalist whackjobs

          • Jerusha

            DJohn1 recognizes there is a God and we are in a discussion. to identify Jesus as a created being is blasphemous. you seem to want to just argue. and name call.

          • Gay Veteran

            blasphemous, funny

  • sirflailalot

    This is exactly the reason for the strange language used in the book of Revelation. It describes a Mark people will need in order to participate in the New world order.
    But the Bible says once people take this mark their chance for redemption is gone.
    This is radically different from the rest of human history where one could be saved by faith in Christ as long as they still drew breath
    in this life.
    But this is different.
    I believe its because this new and dangerous technology will effectively rewrite peoples DNA.
    They will no longer qualify for salvation because they will no longer be a kinsman of the redeemer.
    If you are still around when they start forcing people to take these marks.
    Whatever you do .Dont take it.
    Run to the hill, or even be willing to give up your life with the name of Jesus on your lips.
    But dont take the mark

    • Johnny G.

      What you speculate strikes a chord with me. When and if we choose to change our DNA we become not what God made, but what man has made. Not exactly “God-like” in our image huh?

    • Hermes Mercury

      The book of Revelations is myth – as even most major denominations acknowledge. Hal Lindsey was not right, and neither have any of the other snake oil salesmen who make their livings off pushing fear been.

      Hermes

  • nekksys

    Dogs… Let take a look at what “selective breeding” has done to them.

    We have these marvellous specimens of canids which can perform far better than any of their predecessors. Yet these same animals suffer from varying imperfections which we, as mere humans, failed to breed out. For example, bulldogs can barely breathe due to congenitally constricted sinuses. Rottweilers are prone to lethal infections due to a low immune system. Greyhounds are some of the fastest dogs we have yet they possess brittle bones. Toy dogs are 100% dependent on humans as they can not fend for themselves.

    So, yeah, we’ve done a great job “engineering” dogs… Can’t wait to see what kind of human our “engineers” turn out…

    • mary09462

      ;

    • JH

      Perhaps because we bred in certain traits for aestetic reasons rather than practical. No one cars if the bulldog almost suffocates as long as it looks like a bull dog. Other dogs have been bred to help out with sheep herding for instance with a good result. It’s a question of what you actually want to do.

  • Carrie

    You know Transhumanism is the sole storyline of the British TV show, Orphan Black, right?

    It’s a great, great show. Good acting, wild story lines, lots of great villains and plot twists.

  • Johnny G.

    I am a Christian, and a believer in God as our savior. However, my thoughts turn to the very real possibility that God is giving us a new religion: Science! Within each of us is the ability to change ourselves just like this article presents. Our immune systems can be “programmed” to prevent the future generations from expressing Cancer of all types. The ability to do this with other diseases is well within our technology. So, why are we not doing this??

  • VigilanteCaregiver

    This is the most scientifically absurd, ridiculous, and ludicrous thing these religiously zealous pseudo-scientists have claimed so far.

  • Man is truly the culmination of everything these trans-humanists are trying to achieve. They just don’t see it.

  • RageHard84

    A question I feel we need to ask ourselves, is how well do we humans really understand genetics? When it comes to computer programming languages, it often takes more than one try to get the desired result, if you are a student, your program may crash at first.
    Now people are editing DNA, which has some aspects in common with programming languages, but differs from them in a crucial regard: it is not man-made. I don’t want to repeat too many sci-fi cliches, but we could end up with a total disaster on our hands.
    “After all, transhumanists are interested in some pretty bizarre things: mind
    uploading, living indefinitely through life extension science,
    biohacking themselves to install cyborg body parts, and creating
    artificial general intelligence.”
    The only thing that seems like it may be beneficial is cyborg body parts, as it may help people ‘replace’ limbs that were lost. For example, a person who loses their natural legs may not be back to ‘normal’ but at least cyborg legs would allow them to walk again. If information can be uploaded from our brains, this could mean we have no privacy and others can access our thoughts. I don’t want to live forever, things seem to be getting worse and worse. As for artificial general intelligence, we don’t want the sci-fi cliche of machines rebelling.

  • DJohn1

    The ultimate shield from radiation is possibly water if there is a lot of it.
    I am suggesting the Earth at the time was filled with water vapor in the form of clouds. I am also suggesting the Earth had a much higher pound per inch than what it does now. How much is anyone’s guess. But the pure weight of dinosaurs and how huge they actually were suggests to me that the atmosphere might have been much thicker than it is now to support that weight.
    Something triggered that water to become rainfall.
    Also there are huge reservoirs of water in the Earth itself. We are supplied in Ohio by one such underground river approximately 400 feet down that runs through the center of Dayton, Ohio.
    At the approximate time of the Flood, there was a huge glacier in Antarctica. Scientists think this glacier collapsed into the ocean off Antarctica. Such a huge displacement of water would have created a huge wave somewhere between 100-300 feet high that washed over the continents.
    Antarctica has not always been quite this cold. There is circumstantial evidence of human population on the edges of the continent and forests covering that area. How long ago? Not really sure.
    There are reports of a temple buried beneath a partially frozen lake on that continent. The only way they know about it is that they have taken sonar readings.
    The Mediterranean shows considerable evidence that it was a much smaller in land body of water. I have no idea if it was a sea or a lake at that time. The suggestion is that the Gibraltar entrance was closed. That it opened and the Atlantic came rushing in. When? Again the dates are not clear.
    I am thinking that it might have all happened together. But that might mean it was deliberately set up. Which the literature on the Flood supports.
    Genesis indicates mankind was all but destroyed in the flood.
    Other ancient documents also describe the same thing. But that would mean the entire planet was populated at the time of the Flood. Possibly a billion or more people.
    I think the Bible describes a lot longer period of time than anyone realizes. But that is just speculation on my part.
    The East Indian documents are supposedly close to 20,000 years old. China also has some very old documents and most of these are set in stone or they would not have lasted.
    I think the Bible is like the traditional game of telephone. If you start on one side of the room with multiple different languages and people, then communicate a story from the beginning on one side of the room and translate it multiple times, human beings will make errors and the story may or may not resemble the original when it gets to the other side of the room.
    I find it really amazing that the Bible is accurate as it is. Yet there are mistaken translations even today.
    Most of which are very minor in nature.
    Discovered ancient documents are almost exactly the same as the ones we use today in the Bible.
    People a lot smarter than I am have tried to tear it apart without success.
    WHEN Jesus comes back, I am sure he will be pleased to enlighten us on many things. I look forward to it if I am blessed with seeing him return. IF not, I plan to ask him many questions after I die. He may just assign an angel to educate me. But then I will have a much better mind and a much better body than I have now.

  • guest

    There is nothing new under the sun, ( what you see now has already been done).
    As in the days of Noah, so shall it be, ( we know how well that worked out).

  • Manimal

    We are Borg… You will be assimilated… Resistance is futile!:-) And there are still freaks who mock science not-any-more-fiction:-)

  • Hank

    Transhumanists promise that all of these things will soon be possible, if we are willing to embrace a new way of doing things.

    Not going to happen!!! I don`t care how much these transhumanists believe it, or how advanced technology becomes, it will go seriously wrong. I believe this opens the door to great darkness and will bring Gods wrath upon them.

  • DJohn1

    Speak of the devil! Drudge has a report on a simplified way to alter defective genes that can cause inherited cancer in women.

  • Discipleof Jesus

    Whereas these “faults” they claim of this flesh are a RESULT of sin (disobeying the Divine Laws) .

    Jesus Christ boldly testified that this flesh PROFITS NOTHING .

    Jesus Christ boldly testified that to love this present body is idolatry .

    Jesus Christ boldly testified to love this world (anything made by man ) is idolatry

    The prophet Jeremiah boldly testified that there is such thing as “all the prisoners of the earth ”
    This present body is NOT eternal form . This present body is a result of SIN .
    There is a fleshly mind and their is an ETERNAL HEART
    Most sincere Christians do not understand what the heart is .
    The Eternal Father BOLDLY testified what the heart is when he humbled nebuchanezzer of babylon
    The pump in your chest is NOT the ETERNAL heart .
    Since the there are secrets the Eternal Father will forever keep to himself as said in Deut . Jesus Christ is the portion of the Eternal Father that He that is the Father shared with mankind and is made mankind’s ONLY advocate to approach the Holy Throne of the Eternal Father
    Jesus Christ boldly testified that the ETERNAL Father is a SPIRIT .
    Jesus Christ came in the flesh to satisfy the Divine Law and to put away sin .
    A sojourner has been here and now leaves as he came , least of all disciples thankful Jesus Christ had mercy on this sinner of sinners .

  • Glenn Piggott

    Without copping a fifth, the answer is not knowable. We all come to this nexus from different perspectives and in the end, we expect different preconceived outcomes. The truth is, it will probably be ‘none of the above’. You only have to look back 50 years and laugh at was that generation thought of the future. I guess the difference is the time scale for changes is compressing rapidly and hence predictions are increasingly difficult because of the error rate in any samples or simulations you run.

    I take comfort in knowing it won’t be anything like we expect.

  • Glenn Piggott

    Oh, on the mark of the beast. I have a chip , RFID implant in my left hand. It’s handy for unlocking or locking, sending emails and storing my personal information in case of an accident. I really didn’t know about the beast thingy, demonic connection till afterwards. Rest assured, I have no sudden interest in eating brains, eating raw chook or misilanious sacrifices. I remain human with a cyborg implant. In the next five years I will implant electro magnets, possibly a contact lens that sees in infrared and I continue to work on my virtual avatar, which is gathering everything I say and do , mapping a mind copy of me. If nothing else it should be a real hoot when a 23rd century technician turns on my avatar. Maybe it won’t be me, in the sense we understand, but I am willing to take the gamble.

  • Glenn Piggott

    And sorry the American Dream was just that. In the 21/2nd century you will find Asia is the dominant power, like it or not. Our service economies will profit fro the primary growth of China, India and the Asain tiger economies. Get used to it.

  • JH

    I feel that the future is very bright indeed. And it will come regardless of whether we want it or not. The main problem I see is not really

    that some of us wont like to alter, the main problem is that not everyone get the opportunity to alter themselves. Even a modest cost of lets say 10 dollars would be beyond billions of peoples capability.

    Imagine the social disparity between a wealthy country with for all practical purposes, infinite life expectancy and a poor rural country like central Africa with a life span expectancy of 35. Or even within the country when a priviligied class get access to treatment in the million dolalr class to prolong their life indefinitely while the vast majority don’t. Thats when real social troubles begins…

  • Hermes Mercury

    Yes, it is, and I hope that my children are part of it.

    Change is not automatically bad. This race of man must expand and grow if it is to survive.

    Some notes that I suspect will not otherwise be on here:

    Between the beginning of writing in the Indus Valley (probably) until 1950 we produced, as a race, about 1 terabyte of data, if all the writing were put in binary. I learned to type on a Selectric typewriter, although I had a Commodore 64 at the time. I am typing this on a machine that is hundreds of times more powerful than the Commodore 64 and has storage for more information than was produced in the first several thousand years of writing.

    100 years ago people died of dozens of diseases that are now effectively cured, we barely had electricity and cars in a widespread manner and our scientists debated whether or not there was recognizable life on the Moon. Today we have ongoing projects curing disease after disease, we produce electricity from an expanding base of sources (putting to bed recent fears) and transportation is becoming more and more varied and efficient. We’ve been to the moon, will be to Mars very soon, having recently developed an engine that will get us there in a few weeks instead of several months, and can see Warp drive (yes, Warp drive) as a viable development in the next hundred years.

    I could go on with these examples, but a steady reading of the journals will show anyone the research, listening to Dr. Kaku will open minds, being AWARE will bring enlightenment.

    Yes, there could be a setback, but no a super volcano will not stop mankind (though it might eliminate most of us from the grand design), nor would a disease that escaped our ability to develop new cures and so sparked a horrible plague indicate some divine displeasure with our “arrogance” – rather it should push us to new efforts.

    We have risen from the muck to great heights – rather than worry at methods of stopping ourselves from rising further, perhaps it would be best if we actually TRIED to rise further. The race of man must live and prosper.

  • ndlz84 .

    KIFFLOM, brother brother.

    • Techno Buddha

      I googled kifflom, not to sure what
      you mean by it.. are you referring to some kind of demon or entity?

      • ndlz84 .

        Nah, man. You make me laugh. I like reading your content. No offence, but you’re a freakin’ nutcase lol. You must have seen the Epsilon cult in your google search. It’s from the Grand Theft Auto game. You sound like one of them. Did you know women are made from sand? And sperm does not exist – it is a lie spread by biology teachers – along with everything else you have ever been told.

        • Techno Buddha

          Wow, Its gonna suck real bad for you, when your finally connected to your Higher Self. Why? Cause its not going to be by your own choice. so you’re going to have to deal with how ignorant you really WERE, and that you really didn’t make an effort to change yourself for the better. But don’t worry, once you connect, everything will be sorted out and you’ll be fine. madness is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results. enjoy your madness while you can. peace out. LOL!

          • ndlz84 .

            You’re winding me up, right? Are you in a cult?

          • ndlz84 .

            You’re winding me up, right? Are you in a cult?