40 Points That Prove That Barack Obama And Mitt Romney Are Essentially The Same Candidate

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What a depressing choice the American people are being presented with this year.  We are at a point in our history where we desperately need a change of direction in the White House, and we are guaranteed that we are not going to get it.  The Democrats are running the worst president in American history, and the Republicans are running a guy who is almost a carbon copy of him.  The fact that about half the country is still supporting Barack Obama shows how incredibly stupid and corrupt the American people have become.  No American should have ever cast a single vote for Barack Obama for any political office under any circumstances.  He should never have even been the assistant superintendent in charge of janitorial supplies, much less the president of the United States.  The truth is that Barack Obama has done such a horrible job that he should immediately resign along with his entire cabinet.  But instead of giving us a clear choice, the Republicans nominated the Republican that was running that was most similar to Barack Obama.  In fact, I don’t think we have ever had two candidates for president that are so similar.  Yes, there are a few minor differences between them, but the truth is that we are heading into Obama’s second term no matter which one of them gets elected.  The mainstream media makes it sound like Obama and Romney are bitter ideological rivals but that is a giant lie.  Yeah, they are slinging lots of mud at each other, but they both play for the same team and the losers are going to be the American people.


Republicans are being told that they have “no choice” but to vote for Romney because otherwise they will get another four years of Obama.

This “lesser of two evils” theme comes out every four years.  We are told that we “must” vote for a horrible candidate because the other guy is even worse.

Well, millions of Americans are getting sick of this routine.  Perhaps that is why it is being projected that as many as 90 million Americans of voting age will not vote this year.

Yes, Barack Obama has been so horrible as president that it is hard to put it into words.

But Mitt Romney would be just like Barack Obama.

Those that are dreaming of a major change in direction if Romney is elected are going to be bitterly, bitterly disappointed.

The following are 40 ways that Barack Obama and Mitt Romney are essentially the same candidate….

1. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both supported TARP.

2. Mitt Romney supported Barack Obama’s “economic stimulus” packages.

3. Mitt Romney says that Barack Obama’s bailout of the auto industry was actually his idea.

4. Neither candidate supports immediately balancing the federal budget.

5. They both believe in big government and they both have a track record of being big spenders while in office.

6. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both fully support the Federal Reserve.

7. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney are both on record as saying that the president should not question the “independence” of the Federal Reserve.

8. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney have both said that Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke did a good job during the last financial crisis.

9. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both felt that Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke deserved to be renominated to a second term.

10. Both candidates oppose a full audit of the Federal Reserve.

11. Both candidates are on record as saying that U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner has done a good job.

12. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney have both been big promoters of universal health care.

13. Mitt Romney was the one who developed the plan that Obamacare was later based upon.

14. Wall Street absolutely showers both candidates with campaign contributions.

15. Neither candidate wants to eliminate the income tax or the IRS.

16. Both candidates want to keep personal income tax rates at the exact same levels for the vast majority of Americans.

17. Both candidates are “open” to the idea of imposing a Value Added Tax on the American people.

18. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both believe that the TSA is doing a great job.

19. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both supported the NDAA.

20. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both supported the renewal of the Patriot Act.

21. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both believe that the federal government should be able to indefinitely detain American citizens that are considered to be terrorists.

22. Both candidates believe that American citizens suspected of being terrorists can be killed by the president without a trial.

23. Barack Obama has not closed Guantanamo Bay like he promised to do, and Mitt Romney actually wants to double the number of prisoners held there.

24. Both candidates support the practice of “extraordinary rendition”.

25. They both support the job-killing “free trade” agenda of the global elite.

26. They both accuse each other of shipping jobs out of the country and both of them are right.

27. Both candidates are extremely soft on illegal immigration.

28. Neither candidate has any military experience.  This is the first time that this has happened in a U.S. election since 1944.

29. Both candidates earned a degree from Harvard University.

30. They both believe in the theory of man-made global warming.

31. Mitt Romney has said that he will support a “cap and trade” carbon tax scheme (like the one Barack Obama wants) as long as the entire globe goes along with it.

32. Both candidates have a very long record of supporting strict gun control measures.

33. Both candidates have been pro-abortion most of their careers.  Mitt Romney’s “conversion” to the pro-life cause has been questioned by many.  In fact, Mitt Romney has made millions on Bain Capital’s investment in a company called “Stericycle” that incinerates aborted babies collected from family planning clinics.

34. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both believe that the Boy Scout ban on openly gay troop leaders is wrong.

35. They both believe that a “two state solution” will bring lasting peace between the Palestinians and Israel.

36. Both candidates have a history of nominating extremely liberal judges.

37. Like Barack Obama, Mitt Romney also plans to add “signing statements” to bills when he signs them into law.

38. They both have a horrible record when it comes to job creation.

39. Both candidates believe that the president has the power to take the country to war without getting the approval of the U.S. Congress.

40. Both candidates plan to continue running up more government debt even though the U.S. government is already 16 trillion dollars in debt.

  • whoknows

    im not too sure where you get your info from some times. im not sure how you figure mitt is against jobs when hes has said and done many things that support him wanting to build jobs. i guess the fact that he helped home depot and staples build what they have means nothing. i guess what he did with the olympics means nothing. the fact he built his company from the ground up means nothing. donating millions of dollars means nothing. i find a common theme with all the articles on this website neative. i never read anything positive here its always about how horibble everyone and everything is and that is what is bringing down america that everyone is negative about everything. i understand reporting the facts but cant we find anything positive to say about anyone?

    • Eisenkreutz


      • whoknows

        first you dont have to be rude. second if everyone is so agaisnt these two candidates then who should be a candidate. the only ones we have to balme here is ourselves the american people for doing nothing.

        • Nexus789

          The person is angry as it has dawned on them that they have NO choice. America is not a democracy and has not been for decades. The US is ‘run’ by faceless elites that lobby and us their money and influence to use the State and its resources to further enrich themselves. There is no political plurality in the US.

          • Which America do you speak of ? The usa or The USA ~ there are two you know . The Constitution was usurped and negated in the 1860’s I believe. As for democracy ~ America was never ever a democracy it was a Constitutional Republic . What have you people been taught? and to what end ? ~ we can see today or should I say quite a lot of us can see today to what end. And Jesus wept.

          • dave

            Actually the US is a constitutional republic. Our government has never been considered a democracy

          • pat

            you are right we are not a democracy – we are a REPUBLIC…. STUDY UP….

        • Gary3

          Ron Paul

    • Gary2

      mittens also destroyed many mor43e companies and even killed someone when he closed one of the companies. He should be in jail for destroying lives.

      • Eisenkreutz


      • Mitch

        Even the Obama campaign is backing away from this fabrication. Mitt Romney is not responsible for the death of a woman who got sick three years after her husband lost his job, and who even had her own health insurance at the time. Health insurance doesn’t only come from companies; people are able to buy their own (which I’ve been doing for 4 years).

        • Nexus789

          Well vote for him and the Ayn Rand worshiper Ryan. Then watch US society implode.

      • Mal R

        Should ObaMao and Holder be in jail? I just wanna know if you’re a left wing idiot hack. Those are actually responsible for the murder of over 200 people, including at least 2 border patrol agents, instead of your leftist imaginary tale of Romney intrigue.

        • Gary2

          Holder sucks and obama disappointed many on the left with him and guitner.

          • Mal R

            Ok, that’s wonderful. Now answer the question.

        • Gay Veteran

          all war criminals belong in jail, including Obama, Bush, Cheney, etc.

      • Mal R

        Hey Gary, name any point in history where a job or a company were permanent.

        • Nexus789

          You must be a simpleton. You must think the loss of 8million jobs, the closure of 50,000 manufacturing companies and a million Indians and other working in the US to be a good thing. If I were American I’d be really upset that I have no future and my standard of living is in decline.

      • Jerry

        In that case your hero obummer should be….well, you know.

      • Traci

        You are an idiot. Do you buy every lie you hear on tv?

      • Gary…. isnt part of health insurance PREVENTION….. as touted by the First Lady…. and the Soptic woman had her OWN insurance …. then she could have SAVED her own life by getting checked out…. mammograms… and so on…….. so the Bain connection is not even relevant. Cant fix stupid !!

        • Gary2

          Cant fix stupid !!

          This is why I will not respond to your drivel. You and Mal need to get together. You are 2 turds on the lawn

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            You’re right Gary, we cant fix stupid.

            Well, conservatives cant. But you leftist adherents to Eugenics…

            Here, lemme quote you Geroge Bernard Shaw – noted Fabian Socialist and adherent to Eugenics (in other words a leftist progressive)

            “You must all know half a dozen people at least who are no use in this world, who are more trouble than they are worth. Just put them there and say Sir, or Madam, now will you be kind enough to justify your existence? If you can’t justify your existence, if you’re not pulling your weight in the social boat, if you’re not producing as much as you consume or perhaps a little more, then, clearly, we cannot use the organizations of our society for the purpose of keeping you alive, because your life does not benefit us and it can’t be of very much use to yourself”

            BTW, he was talking about you.

      • beaker55
    • Starblue

      Eisenkreutz’s response is exactly correct.

      Fortune 500 companies do not create American jobs. They destroy American jobs. Only small business is the job creator in the USA. Period.

      Both parties (Congress) share the blame for the disasterous predicament that we can no longer escape.

      Start here:






      You want positive? Try OWN (Oprah Winfrey Network)

    • Topher

      Yotta check “what he did with the Olympics.” You’ll problly quit asking people to do so…

  • A Dodgy Bloke

    You can make an argument that BHO and George the II are carrying out the same policies. Bailouts, two wars (don’t let BHO and the MSN fool you we still have military personnel in Iraqi) record spending putting the Constitution though a shredder. Any body know anything about the below article off of Drudge? First it’s NOAA now it’s the Social Security Administration. I understand the source it Infowars, but the ammo quote request off of the PBO sight is the real deal. Anybody got any other sources on this?



    • David Callaway

      At first it does sound alarming. 174,000 rounds is a lot! I did a little looking and found that the SSA has 1400 offices around the country. It would be no surprise to me if the SSA was to station a security guard at each office. In this case, each office would be allocated 125 rounds. What government office have you been in that didn’t have a security guard somewhere?

      The ammo is being shipped to 41 different offices. Maybe these are the main regional offices and the ammo will be distributed to lesser offices through these main offices.

      I am not too worried about it right now. I will be worried when they start ordering body armor and 5.56 mm by the millions.

      • liberranter

        The SSA is irrelevant. The whole program will be bankrupt MUCH SOONER than anyone anticipates. Smart people (what few there are) will cut their losses and pretend that this parasitic organization doesn’t even exist, not even considering drawing any benefits from it.

      • Topher


    • David Callaway

      What is sad is that there are 1400 SSA offices in the first place!!!

      • A Dodgy Bloke

        Very well thought out, but bwtween DHS, NOAA, and SSA ordering all this hand gun ammo it gives one pause. Your right abut the number of SSA offices.

    • frank lee

      Homeland Security orders 450 million rounds of Ammo – 6 pointed DEATH STAR!

  • Tim

    “In fact, Mitt Romney has made millions on Bain Capital’s investment in a company called “Stericycle” that incinerates aborted babies collected from family planning clinics.”

    I’m glad you included this in the article. I saw it earlier today, and I was shocked.

    • Gary2

      I told you doltish conservatives that your elite repube masters do not give two ******* about your silly little social conservative agenda and will keep throwing you under the bus.

      Why don’t you vote democrat where at least we will be honest and tell you that you are nuts???

      • Mal R

        Yea, why dont you vote democrat, that way you can be responsible for the actual murder of those babies, instead of just the disposal of the bodies.

        Ahh yes, democrats! Beating the body count of Stalin and Hitler ever since they forced abortion on this country.

        • Gay Veteran

          hey Mal R, how many unwanted babies have YOU adopted?

          • Mal R

            And yourself? Of course, a democrat has no values or principles so he just wants to beat a conservative over the head with everything he holds up. Of course, you’ve adopted no one. You given to no one. you help no one. So even though I spend an ENORMOUS amount of MY money helping others or giving to others means nothing, that I’ve not helped EVERYONE means I’m evil. …idiot.

          • Mal R

            How does someone adopt an abortion?

        • I wish that I could share the Democrats enthusiasm over Roe v Wade.. but it always struck me as a case of the supreme court through its usual “interpretation” of the constitution as they set a legal precedent to officially condone the murder of millions of unborn children in this great nation. No law was passed, no amendments to the constitution were made, we merely abdicated the rights of the unborn in favor of an irresponsible generations desire to rid itself of the consequences of their actions. If despising that is a “republican” attitude I guess I’m still guilty..

          • Gay Veteran

            David, according to Karl Denninger (one of the founders of the Tea Party movement) you can’t be free if you don’t control your own body

        • ******* Democrats are responsible for abortions too. Not that it’s about not wanting a government to determine whats done with one’s own body (government should’nt interfere with business but they should decide that)But I guess since only conservatives have values, that would fit. WOW

      • Mal R

        Oh yea,

        “vote democrat where at least we will be honest”


        Progressing to where Gary?

        Care about the little people Gary?

        The republicans are the racists and democrats own every piece of ‘civil rights’ since America’s founding Gary?

        Uh huh. You wouldn’t know the truth if Obama slapped you in face with his junk and told you straight up the entire democRAT party has been a scam from day 1.

        • Gary2

          still drinking your own bath water I see…

          • Mal R

            AWWW, there you go again gary. YOU GOT ME!

          • Gary2

            MAL (adjusted) I ALWAYS get you. Its like shooting fish in a barrel besting you.

          • Mal R.

            Only in your mind have you ever bested anyone Gary.

        • Gay Veteran

          I said how many unwanted BABIES have you adopted? stop dodging the question

          I haven’t adopted any, but then I’m NOT the one trying to use the power of the state to turn pregnant women into slaves

          • Mal R.

            No, you’re trying to use the power of the state to turn EVERYONE into a slave.

            How hypocritical are you. You’re sitting there on your boyfriend’s lap trying to tell me I’m some evil person for not adopting anyone, and you havent. It’s not slavery stupid, it’s murder.

          • MB92083

            You’re sitting there on your boyfriend’s lap trying to tell me I’m some evil person for not adopting anyone, and you havent.
            LOL, you go Mal R. GayVet can’t even father a child but he wants you to adopt! That’s all he knows is adoption, because natural childbirth is alien to him.

  • Doug

    Just shared this on my facebook page hopefully people will read it and WAKE UP!! Love these articles man keep them coming..

    • Michael

      You are welcome Doug.

      And a lot of people don’t know about my other site that I am writing on yet. If you like this site you should check it out….



      • Jerry

        If Republicans win the Senate and Romney is elected and repeals obummercare (obummertax), just that will make his election worthwhile.

        • Nexus789

          Yes, along with all health support and any other benefits that ‘poor’ people get. You just confirm that most people in the US just don’t understand why the US is collapsing and who is doing it.

        • lol Obamacare is a model of Romneycare

    • Gay Veteran

      no Mal R., you ‘re the hypocrite for wanting to enslave women when YOU are NOT willing to adopt an unwanted baby

      and I’m sure MB92083 is another hypocrite

      • Malcolm Reynolds

        “you‘re the hypocrite for wanting to enslave women when YOU are NOT willing to adopt an unwanted baby”

        LMAO! What the hell are you talking about? Women giving birth equates to slavery to you? c.u.c.k.o.o BTW, when you say moonbat crazy crap like that, you discredit yourself.

        • Gay Veteran

          women being FORCED to give birth is slavery

          according to Karl Denninger (one of the founders of the Tea Party movement) you can’t be free if you don’t control your own body

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Karl Denninger is NOT one of the founders of the Tea Party movement. There is only one person that gets the claim for that – Rick Santelli. And even he wasn’t a founder. he just threw out the words and the rest was the action of everyday citizens.

            And aside from that which has nothing to do with anything, Please cite where Karl Deninger said pregnancy and giving birth are slavery. That’s a LUNATIC notion and you’re a complete nutter for suggesting such.

            And aside from THAT, women won their reproductive choices with birth control. Please describe murder. Please describe how the left’s (and yours) RABID support of eugenics, euthenasia and the redefinition of abortion by leftist ethicists to include children up to 2 years of age matches up to the CHILD’s rights.

            Oh and how do democrats, that want to DICTATE everything we eat, drink or smoke match up with that definition?

          • Gary3

            Both wrong. Tea Party originated with the Ron Paul organization way back in 2007.

  • Mountain Man

    Michael, you are amazing. Clear and simple to the point. My wife of 10 years requested a CCW and a gun. She finally woke up and we are heading out soon. I hope we can complete it before the DEBT bomb goes off. You are a REAL AMERICAN!

    • Michael

      Thank you Mountain Man. :)

      And isn’t it cool to watch someone close to you wake up? I wish you and your wife the very best as you seek to get prepared.


    • cherylg

      Take some time NOW to find out if your neighbors are preparing or sheeple. I found out my neighbors were not prepared, nor interested. It’s good to know ahead of time that I needed to keep my preps quiet. I finally found a company that offers an OPSEC way to get our food storage. A years worth of food all stacked up on a pallet and wrapped in black plastic. It’s called the CUBE. You can find it at http://www.srmarketplace.com on the special deals page. Don’t know how to cook with food storage? They have some good videos that shows you several recipes. It’s easier than I thought it would be to be prepared, you just have to know where to look.

    • Gay Veteran

      Malcolm: “Karl Denninger is NOT one of the founders of the Tea Party movement.”

      He is recognized as one of the founders whether you like it or not.

      “Please cite where Karl Deninger said pregnancy and giving birth are slavery.”

      Maybe you should go back to first grade and learn how to read. Denninger said you cannot be free if you do not control your own body. Being FORCED to give birth is NOT controlling your own body.

      and birth control? the whackjobs who oppose abortion ALSO oppose birth control (see Catholic Church, etc.)

  • jaxon64

    The hour’s getting late, yeah……….Jimi Hendrix>> All Along The Watchtower

    …I got this feeling, that it’s later than it seems….Jackson Brown >> Doctor My Eyes

    It’s all over but the shouting…… Van Halen >> Mean Streets

    We’re screwed. I highly doubt our financial ruin can be stuffed in a can and kicked much further down the road if either of these 2 incompetents win…yep, screwed. Maybe one more song reference? How about “Run to the Hills” by Iron Maiden…or “Welcome to My Nightmare” by Alice Cooper…

    I guess I’ll just have to rely on that old Bill Gaither classic, “Because He Lives”

  • Georgiaboy61

    Re: “The truth is that Barack Obama has done such a horrible job that he should immediately resign along with his entire cabinet.” Kudos to you for daring to say what few other traditional or alternative-media outlets have had the courage to say. Being so frank in today’s world and political environment takes some moral courage. Let me go further: Barack Obama and his enablers should not resign; they should be facing criminal charges for what they done to this nation. I would say Obama deserves to be impeaced, but impeachment as a process implies legitimacy, and Obama is not and never has been a legitimate chief executive. Why? He is not constitutionally-eligible to hold the office he now occupies. Even leaving aside the constitutional crisis provoked by his presence in the White House, he and his have committed numerous felonies since taking power, from Fast and Furious to illegal wars to pay-offs to supporters using taxpayer money.

    Re: “But instead of giving us a clear choice, the Republicans nominated the Republican that was running that was most similar to Barack Obama.” I do not know which is worse – that we have roughly half of the nation willing to support a man who is blatantly anti-American, or the party (the GOP) unwilling to do anything about his lawlessness. Romney’s presence atop the ticket proves, if any doubt remained, that the Democrat and Republican Parties are two sides of the same coin. There is only one party in these United States, the “Establishment” Party. Presidents come and they go, but the establishment never leaves Washington, DC. The so-called “Two party system” is really a rigged game not unlike a rigged coin toss. Heads they win, tails you lose. A third-party alternative to this racket? It would be nice, but forget about it as long as the insiders control the rules of the game. They don’t want anyone – least of all us proles – intruding on their gigantic and very profitable scam, which is one reason why the barriers to third-party entry are so high in our system. Would-be reformers and outsiders not “approved” by the establishment, i.e. Sarah Palin, Ron Paul, Herman Cain, etc. – are viciously attacked and torn down.

  • jaxon64

    Okay Michael, I think Ive found the perfect Theme Song for the 2012 Election:

    Stealer’s Wheel: Stuck in the Middle With You

    …………I got a feeling something ain’t right…….clowns to the Left of me, jokers to the Right, here I am stuck in the middle ( with you)

    • Michael

      I like it!


  • El Pollo de Oro

    “We have an election coming up between Romney and Obama. It’s not the lesser of two evils: it’s the greater of two stooges. These are no choices……If you vote for the lesser of two evils in a criminal organization, you are an accessory to a crime—the crime being committed against democracy and freedom in America. If you voted for one of the two members of the two-headed one-party system, you are an accessory to the crime.”—Gerald Celente

    “We have two choices, only two. And it’s not Romney or Obama. It’s fascism or freedom, and I’m voting for freedom.”—Gerald Celente

    Regardless of whether Barack “Goldman Sachs” Obama or Mitt “Wall Street” Romney wins in November, The Banana Republic of America (formerly the USA) will slide deeper and deeper into the economic abyss. Our once-great country has become a Third World cesspool run by ruthless corporate criminals who have no shame and no mercy, and those corporate gangsters control both the Republi-con and Democrap wings of the War Party. The Tea Party could have been a strong third party libertarian resistance movement had it remained true to Ron Paul’s message; instead, The Tea Party was hijacked and co-opted by neocons, banksters, fascists and the GOP wing of the War Party. There’s a word to describe anyone who still has faith in the Republi-con and Democrap wings of the War Party: sucker.

    To quote Alex Jones, we are in deep, deep tyranny.

    • liberranter

      There’s a word to describe anyone who still has faith in the Republi-con and Democrap wings of the War Party: sucker.

      Nope, not strong enough. Moron is the operative word here.

  • I agree with this article 100%.

    This election is going to be the worst to stomach of any I have been in since 1935 and it is really sickening to see what people are supporting and calling leadership.

    America is never going to recover from the fascism that has overtaken the country.

  • Dave Webb

    There is one critical difference between the twin candidates besides the obvious. One candidate can only be President for four more years. That makes President Obama a lame duck. He has four years in which to do whatever he wants without fear of public disapproval. He can never be President again after this term in office by law! In my book that makes who ever runs against him the only choice.
    That lack of fear qualifies him as the least attractive of the two candidates. It is a close contest between two extremely confident liars. Both can be very convincing.
    You are right. Consider that this has happened over and over again in recent history. Consider last time it was a Republican who had been a POW. Manchurian Candidate? or someone who we didn’t even know . . . politically he was brand new.
    Or consider the time before when it was the drunken son, shamed AWOL national guardsman, “reformed” Christian, or the time before that, we had a President impeached for improper behavior. In his home state what he did would get him put in jail. There are laws and then there are laws.
    So the track record goes on an on an on . . . add sickening.
    We are dealing with a single party with the flipping of a coin. Heads they win, tails you lose!
    This is what happens when states make it difficult for independent candidates to get on the ballot. You have a first class con game put on every year by your Democrat/Republican party. They were originally one party and I see nothing that convinces me they have changed. Thus the lack of candidates worthy of a vote.
    When there is no choice of candidate, throw the old out and start over.

    • Michael


      That is a legitimate point. At least Romney would have the fear of the next election restraining him. Obama would be a “lame duck” that could do whatever he wants.


      • Gary2

        Obama would be a “lame duck” that could do whatever he wants.

        Michael–that’s the whole idea. DUH!

        That’s been the plan all along. Single payer tax the wealthy here we come! Maybe he will finally be the socialist the right accuses him of being. I sure hope so.

        I can’t wait for Obama to beat Romney, and he WILL beat mittens.

        Paul Ryan VP–You got to be kidding??all seniors will vote him gone. He gets heckled so much in the town hall meetings he stopped having them. Ryan knew he would loose his congress seat to business owner Rob Zerban who is actually a job creator as opposed to ryan who was born into wealth and never worked in the private sector and is a career politician, a retail politician.

        Mittens lost when he choose ryan.

        Go Obama-be the socialist the conservatives accuse you of being,. 4 more years to permanently take America left. A second new deal, a robust war on poverty, pass the employee free choice act to promote unions and give workers more power. Make the fed keep unemployment low to force these mother fing corporations to pay a good wage.

        • Eisenkreutz

          *PIES GARY2 IN THE FACE*

          • Gary2

            glad you agree

      • liberranter

        Dave and Michael:

        Does it really matter whether or not Obama is “lame duck” or Willard, if elected, has “the fear of re-election hanging over him?” As this article makes clear, it DOES NOT MATTER whether a Demopublican incumbent or a newly-elected Republicrat (or vice versa) occupies the imperial throne. It DOES NOT MATTER whether that person is “lame duck” or not. The things that they do while in office will be murderous, destructive, and tyrannical NO MATTER WHO THEY ARE!

        Putting it another way, and to directly address both of your comments, it doesn’t matter whether or not Barack Obama “does whatever he wants to” because of his lame duck status. Leaving aside the fact that nothing any Puppet-in-Chief does is of his own volition while in office, that “whatever” would be done by either Barry the Lame Duck or Willard the Newly-Installed Puppet if it is part of the puppet-masters’ hidden agenda. Figureheads are and always have been interchangeable. For that reason, even if Willard, if elected, did “fear the possibility of not being re-elected,” that would NOT make any difference in what he did or did not do, because what he, or any other figurehead does or does not do has has nothing whatsoever to do with what is good or harmful to Us The People or what We The People want or do not want.

        Bottom line, as others have posted here and as Gerald Celente reminds us: the lesser of two evils is STILL EVIL and the greater of two stooges is STILL A STOOGE.


    • Eisenkreutz

      I never thought it of it like that. Good point.

    • Jam Akin

      Obama will be restrained in his second term by the same force that has made Bill Clinton a multi-millionaire and Bush Senior a near billionair after leaving office. Greed. He will sustain obedience to his corporate masters.

  • VegasBob

    Michael, you think we are going to get Obama’s 2nd term, regardless of who is elected. Personally, I think Obama has faithfully served George W. Bush’s 3rd term, and I think we are going to get George W. Bush’s 4th term, regardless of the election outcome.

    I voted for Barack Obama in 2008, but there are no circumstances on the face of this earth that would lead me to vote for Obama’s re-election. None. Barack Obama has given both Jimmy Carter and George W Bush a priceless gift – after 4 years of Obama, neither Carter nor Bush lays awake at night anymore, wondering if posterity will give them the title of “Worst President in U.S. History.” That dubious distinction will go to Barack Obama.

    I can think of only one possible reason to vote for Romney, and that is his pledge to repeal Obamacare. I retired from an executive position with a Fortune 300 Company 5 years ago, but I still have some contacts in the business world. My contacts tell me that mass layoffs will be ramping up right after the election, similar to what happened at the end of 2008. The only possible mitigating factor that might reduce the number of coming layoffs is the repeal of Obamacare. For that reason alone, I may hold my nose and vote for Romney.

    • Gay Veteran

      One way Obama is actually worse than Bush the Stoopid is that Obama has put the bipartisan seal of approval on everything Bush did.

      There is NO gridlock in DC. Instead we have total bipartisanship: empire abroad and the national security/surveillance state at home

      • Mal R

        “There is NO gridlock in DC”

        When was the last time the senate passed a budget?

        • Gay Veteran

          LOL, and what does passing a budget have to do with BOTH parties supporting empire?

    • liberranter

      Given what Romney did to heff kayah in Massachusetts, do you really think that he’s going to repeal Obamacare? C’mon now, get real…

  • r.bitting

    You folks keep on placing your faith in these politicians. Keep ignoring the warnings, keep spitting in God’s face. It’s going to catch you this Fall. Theres no saving this country, it’s beyond saving. Few are heeding the warnings that God has given us. Now, only judgment awaits. It’s a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

    • R.C.

      You really must read about Nineveh… first off. Remember that the thief on the cross next to Jesus asked for forgiveness…. and what did Jesus say to him? “This day you will be with me in paradise”. That is an example of a last minute save… and it is never too late until it is finally over with.

      • r.bitting

        I’m a realist. I’m well aware that it’s possible for the nation to turn, but if you are honest with yourself, you’ll admit to yourself that it’s not happening.

        • Tucko

          I’m a realist. I’m well aware that it’s possible for the nation to turn, but if you are honest with yourself, you’ll admit to yourself that it’s not happening.

          LOL, a “realist” that believes in invisible made-up people in the sky….

    • Jodi

      I think a lot of people believe if Romney gets elected that we will be saved. I agree, it’s beyond saving.

  • A.S.

    Just in: Social Security orders 174,000 bullets. Why would they need it? Why would they need need even one? They are not in actual security. Answer: to shoot black rioters when Obama loses. Or to shoot white rioters when Romney loses. Either way, SS is going to murder 174,000 people. Please tell me I am wrong, because this is all I have.

    • R.C.

      Where did you read that the Social Security Administration ordered 174,000 bullets? References please… The rest of your statement sure sounds like an assumption, and I have an inkling that it leans on the racial side of things. Not to be critical, but without facts to back your statement up it just sounds like your own opinion… and are you credible?

    • Gary2

      Please tell me I am wrong, because this is all I have.

      A.S. you are wrong!

      They got the bullets to kill the Hero’s of Old and the Men of Renown. Think on that for a while. You know of what I refer.

      • Eisenkreutz


        • Gary2

          Michael knows…

          • Gary2

            Michael–tell them what I am referring to–men of renown, heroes of old.

        • DL.

          He’s either talking about Christians, most Gentiles, or true Patriots (and no Tom Brady or Bill Belichick jokes please!)

      • vancouver mark

        Gary is now channelling Galadriel…
        That pie in the face must have knocked a wire loose or something.

    • David Callaway

      I don’t want to double post, but see my comment to “A Dodgy Bloke” above for my thoughts on it.

    • xander cross

      Yes, you are indeed wrong. How about this one, what if that article is lying about the bullets just to make you give your money to the gun groups? Yeah, you defiently off the mark on this one.

      • Guido

        Xander, RC- all you have to do is look up the info on Google. It came out in the last couple days on Drudgereport, who linked it from Prisonplanet. It’s not a conspiracy to make you buy ammo. If you break down the #s, it’s actually a pretty small purchase for a national agency.

        All that stuff is a matter of public record. If you had your act together, you could even bid to supply the ammo. Shoot, 174,000 rounds of .357 Sig at approx. $1.20+/- per round (Damn, that’s pricey for a semi-common round, huh?) comes out at about $209,000. That’s not peanuts, but certainly not stratospheric. What do you want to bet the lowest bid is around a million?

        BTW-if the story is accurate, and they’re dividing it into 41 lots, that’s really only a 4k rounds on average per office. Divide that by maybe 5 officers over, say 5 years, and that’s not a lot of ammo to carry and qualify with per year. Those 5 theoretical officers would only have 160 rounds a year with which to carry, practice, and qualify. That’s not a lot, really.

        If you only had 160 rounds to shoot a year, I don’t think you would be a very good shot. It might be adequate, but I think you need to shoot a whole lot more in a year. It’s hardly the evidence of a conspiracy to enslave us all some people are squawking about. Folks who get alarmed about this aren’t thinking clearly about the issue.

  • Buzzy Watts

    Who’s going to be worse: the shameless unmasked face of the global oligarchy, or their wannabe servant who really wants to make them happy?

    I used to think the former (Romney of course) would be worse on the grounds that the agenda he openly supports would be, and is currently, disastrous. Now, however, I’m wondering if Obama might be the rawer deal: Romney was born an oligarch and has nothing to prove, but perhaps Obama needs to go further to prove to his loyalty.

    • DL.

      which is why all that “he hates Israel” nonsense by the ********* is just a smokescreen for Obama to be “holier that thou” (Romney) when it comes to either allowing Israel to nuke every last Palestinian and Muslim in the Middle East–or call us all “anti-semitic” if the US doesn’t nuke the whole Middle East after Netanyahu ORDERS us to.

      Talmudic Jews want to know where all the “righteous Gentiles” are (to be their slaves, by their Talmud)…what I want to know is this: WHERE ARE ALL THE RIGHTEOUS JEWS WHO CAN STOP ISRAEL’S INSANE LEADERS FROM DESTROYING THIS PLANET?

  • dan

    state militias were the first to go…then all local police were militarized, now all guns are to be collected or rendered useless by the cost of ammo…then our currency crashes and the cities go up in flames..as the UN troops run amok thru out this land…some will resist…most will cower and accept what ever they are told…as the clowns parade themselves in DC for the giddy , dumb ed down slaves…a plague is upon our country and it will only get worse,,,so vote if you want to…but prepare for the coming storm…for there is no hope and change in ANY politician….all are false idols …..as many citizens have chosen to be deceived…a fatal flaw…that all of us on this ark will have to suffer for…I can only pray to GOD to give me the power to fashion my response as Patrick Henry once said…GMLOGMD…

  • ScoutMotto

    So where’s Gary2? He’s certainly one who needs to see this comparison.

    • Mal R

      It wont work. Gary is impervious to facts, logic and truth. He’s still spouting off about ‘Mittens’ killing some dude’s wife.

      • Gary2

        That;s correct mittens the murderer. why doesn’t that crooked MF release his taxes?? because he did not pay any. Just like the birth cert put up or shut up mittens.

        • Michael


          You should actually be happy if Mitt Romney wins because he is extremely liberal and he would almost certainly lose to the next Democrat in 2016.


          • Gay Veteran

            hmmmm, NOW conservatives claim Bush wasn’t a conservative (despite the fact they supported him to the hilt)

            conservatism, like communism, cannot fail, it can only be failed

        • liberranter

          Tell ya what, Gary: as soon as your beloved Barry Soetoro releases 1) his REAL birth certificate (IF he actually has one) and 2) his college transcripts, THEN you and he can demand that the Mittens come clean with his tax returns. Fair enough?

          • Gary2


          • Mal R

            I doubt there is one but either way, no democrat is going to address the issue of their messiah, so it’s really a dead issue.

        • Mal R

          When is Obama going to release the details of his schooling – the entrance thereof, the transcripts, any theses?

          How many years of taxes has he released? How many are required? How many more are you going to ask for when he releases more? Who thinks you communists are on a witch hunt? Which of the bill of rigths are showing you DONT believe in when you clowns make a charge and then tell him to prove otherwise?

  • Eisenkreutz

    Its been this way since 1929. Whoever raises the most money wins 95% of the time, as the idiot populace does whatever the idiot box ads command them to do. I also love these idiotic Republican radio hosts talking about how much we hate the Obambi. Their solution? Elect a red communist instead of a blue communist. If only I could throw a pie in the face of every single moron inhabitant of the Republican convention.

    • Mal R

      ” Elect a red communist instead of a blue communist”

      Sigh. Not necessary to read past that. Actually that’s pretty much the biggest difference between the two. They are both progressives of magnitude, which means they agree on the stuff above, but all I have to vote for is ‘at least Romney isn’t an anti-American communist’.

      • Gay Veteran

        yeah, you “conservatives” supported Bush until he messed everything up

        • Malcolm Reynolds

          So your criticizing us for waking up to the disaster? …and yet, clowns like you still support the bamster, even though his admin has been one blatant lie after another, one disaster after another. LMAO! And you idiots say we’re ‘low information conservatives’.

          • Gay Veteran

            once again, I am neither a Democrat nor an Obama supporter. so take your stereotypes elsewhere

          • Gay Veteran

            snort, when did you wake up? 2007? and until then you screamed and yelled and stamped your little hoofs in support of Dear Leader Bush

  • Eisenkreutz

    Michael: the Obambi is not the worst president ever, although he is certainly a cretin. Woodrow Wilson, Andrew Jackson, and Abraham Lincoln were some genuinely evil vermin and i hope they rot in hell.

    • Mondobeyondo

      Don’t forget my personal favorite – Herbert “Two Chickens in Every Pot” Hoover.

    • liberranter

      You do have a point, in that Barry S. probably wouldn’t exist as a political creature at all were it not for precedents that the aforementioned three set, especially Wilson.

  • marK

    There are some major differences between the two to me. In #34 both do think that the scouts should allow gays to serve as leaders. Obama would force the scouts to do this and Romney would not force them to allow this. It is ok if someone has a different idea than me as long as I am not forced to change my idea to theirs. Next Romney has said that he would have gone with an organized bankruptcy with the car companies. That means that the bond holders would have been paid first instead of throwing out contract law and giving the unions everything they wanted. Next as I have said before and this does mean a lot to me as someone that believes in storing food for hard times for any reason. I think that since Mitt Romney knows how important a food storage is to many in the LDS Church and we have been counciled to have a least a years supply of food, clothes, supplies, fuel, medicine etc by Church leaders for many years. And since he has been a Bishop and a Stake President, he has told members to store these things, I would think that he would direct the police state to leave us alone. I do not think that Romney will go along with supporting our vegetable gardens to be raided. There is a huge difference between progresive light which is Romney and a complete control freak that is Obama. The public will not give up their demands for gifts from the government that I have to pay for. If Obama stays in power, the police state will be in full force by the end of his next four years.

  • I believe it’s time to vote for third party candidates. I agree that D/R are almost identical. It’s morally reprehensible to have to vote for the “lesser of two evils”, whomever you believe that to be. I’m pretty much radically left of left, and I don’t care which way this falls–the 99% lose either way. It’s time to not just send a message to our mainstream politicians, but to get a third party enough votes to get serious consideration and funding. Time to show these a***oles that we are not going to tolerate their destruction of America.


  • V. Miller

    Good, I’m glad the SSA is getting all those .357 hollow points. Now I know where to go get ammo. They even tell you how much each field office is getting and I wonder how many people are they going to have guarding that. So homeland security is getting forty cal, and SSA .357. Now everybody knows what type of weapon to have on hand, or pick up off the battle field. This whole article is missing a much more important point. Who we send to DC to Congress and the Senate is way more important than the president. It might be time to persuade the idiots that keep sending dimwits like Pelosi, Reid, Wasserman, etc. to vote differently. Almost all the incumbent congressmen and senators need to go. The problem is they need to go all at once. Just a few at a time and our representatives are assimilated into the great fraud being committed against we the people as soon as they hit Washington. Who we send to the state legislatures is equally as important. Perfect example is the State of Oklahoma that has already passed a law that prohibits any federal gun grab, and other states are following. Then there’s the election of your local sheriff which will be the last stand of any elected official against the federal government. Support your local Sheriff Joe and realize not all of them are on the side of the people. I think the real representatives of the people will be the members of the Military, they didn’t volunteer for a war against America and just a hand full of the right soldiers along with the millions of Americans that are fed up, and the government can’t win, I don’t care how many rounds they order. As far as the military supporting the local police, it could happen. But you’re not going to get any of the Marines on Camp Pendleton to support the San Clemente police department, that’s for sure…they are already at war. No matter who wins the election, if people take to the street with violence like the LA/Rodney King riots there’s going to be armed conflict that is senseless, will be put down, and anyone that thinks that is going to lead to a major revolution..think again. what will work is when the economy tanks for real, there’s 60% unemployment, and Americans that don’t have to worry about keeping a job can march on DC 5 to 10 million strong and not 75,000 claiming to be a million, go into the capitol and let them all know they’re fired.

    • Eisenkreutz


  • Should we really be shocked by this?

    In the last election, the most liberal Democrat in the senate ran against one of the most liberal Republicans in the senate. Now we have the same Democrat running against a very liberal Republican.

    It’s liberal vs liberal-lite, and liberal-lite is only slightly so.

    Why would you vote for liberal-lite when you can have the real deal?

    I know liberal-lite is a little better, but the whole election process stinks. Both parties are pushing the country over a cliff.

  • One MAJOR difference between the two: Mitt Romney does not harbor the resentment against this country that Barack Obama does. We are all paying the price for his misguided attempts to punish the nation.

  • Hoser

    1) Democratic *******
    2) Republican GAF

    We are so *****************!

  • WarriorClass III

    The Great Delusion has captured the majority of this country and they are unable and unwilling to see the truth. Even if a Great Awakening were to occur, the bankers have the fool proof Diebold voting machines to determine the outcome they desire. When has any people ever voted themselves out of slavery or fascism? Even the majority of those that are awake will not organize and form militias for their own protection (there are a few, but not enough to matter). They will try at the last second, but they will have missed the opportunity for training and proficiency. The Great Tribulation is at the door and few are ready for it.

    • Mal R

      “When has any people ever voted themselves out of slavery or fascism?”

      Uhhh twice. When we voted for independence and when we elected Lincoln.

      • “Uhhh twice. When we voted for independence and when we elected Lincoln.”

        Wrong on both counts. The United States got it’s independence by defeating England’s army. Lincoln made slaves of us all.

        • liberranter

          Well said!

        • Mal R

          And no one voted voted to put people in power in either instance?

          *yawn* No one voted for the continental congress KNOWING there would be a vote for independence. NO one voted for lincoln KNOWING FULL WELL if he won it was civil war over slavery (among other things).

          Oh please enlighten us how Lincoln made us slaves.

  • We already know. That is why we tried so hard to get Ron Paul. There is a solution, make the elections into selections (a lottery) for selected now elected positions.
    100 employees maximum per company, no single person or group can own more than one company, no single person or group can own more than one media. Government included.
    The Idea is to be of Service to GOD, not to become a billionaire. With many, many small companies, things will be more standardized, more functional, more efficacious, and more people will have a chance at middle class, which is a blessing by God. And it will be next to impossible to get filthy rich, for what is the point. The rich elites have become perverted and they someone got this belief that they are special. Tell that to God’s gate keeper on your way up.

  • A.S.

    I think the one about signing statements is actually funny because it shows how presumptuous both actually are. In over 200 years, no president made signing statements. Then comes along Obama, and a new concept was invented: “I am signing under duress, so if things go wrong, you must know my reasons why I didn’t want to sign in the first place.” He feels he must have the last word. Always. I am surprised he actually graduated Harvard being that arrogant and self-centered. If I were a professor at one of his classes and saw such behavior (signing statements when answering multiple choice or fill in questions) I would have given that test an instant F. Why, because it is showing off and attempting to undermine the professor’s choice of question/answer format. Its like saying, “I know better than the teacher even though I am still a mere student.” Obama only got that far with Affirmative Action programs. These things in essence destroy society more than it actually helps. Affirmative Action is the exact opposite of what it says it is: Affirmative Action is Racist!!!

    • Gay Veteran

      wow A.S., to supposedly be an American citizen you sure are ignortant about signing statements

      List of Signing Statements issued by George W. Bush


      • DL.

        Could it be AS doesn’t know this (in fact, Presidents since at least Goerge HW Bush have issued signing statements…and I think Reagan did as well), because AS is a citizen of Israel? and places the anti-Gentile and anti-Christ Talmud above the Constitution?

        • vancouver mark

          And above the Bible or Quran?

    • liberranter

      Actually, Bush the Imbecile (i.e., the Younger) is the one who first made prominent use of “signing statements,” a concept nowhere even hinted at in the Constitution (for what that “goddamned piece of paper” is worth). Soetoro merely continued the practice and expanded on it.

  • Great article, the information war continues here on facebook, check out https://www.facebook.com/pages/Liberty-Hounds for tons of independent information and photos

  • Jodi

    Thanks Michael for writing an article like this. I’ve been suspicious of Romney for awhile. I do believe Romney has done some good things just like the first comment on this page from whoknows. Yes, I agree, we always get a choice between the lesser of the two evils. Romney doesn’t excite me one bit and I’m not the only one who feels this way. It’s very discouraging considering what we’ve been through the past 3 1/2 years. Also, if anybody was wondering Paul Ryan, Romney’s VP choice voted for TARP and Patriot Act. It seems like there really is no perfect candidate. At this point, we are screwed.

    I do recommend a few books for people to read about Obama:
    The Amateur by Edward Klein

    This one is spooky
    The Roots of Obama’s Rage
    Dinesh’s theory is that our President is driven by an anti-colonialist ideological hatred. I don’t think Romney hates colonialism.

    Also Dinesh has a movie out called 2016: Obama’s America.

  • john

    Years ago I was taking a government class in college. The professor said:”you will never change anything by hiring new politicians”.

    • Eisenkreutz


      • Mal R

        pssst. Dont tell anyone, but the FED aren’t politicians.

  • ESLombard

    I’m retiring to Israel shortly and have always wondered at the workings of their parliamentary system which seems so untidy. But this article suggests to me that all that untidiness is fully expressive of the will of the people at any given moment in that there are many parties which often reconstitute themselves in new configurations and new alignments. Whereas I had decided that I was going to ignore their politics, the above article makes me think that if I follow all those Israeli party machinations, it may be stimulating to my old brain.
    Another consideration is that they are alert to the Muslim peril that is inundating us; they have taken action and warned us for years, but frogs and hot water…
    Liberals fail to recognize that just as a degree of injustice may have been done the Palestinian Arabs, a far, far greater injustice has been done the 850,000 Jews who were expelled with assets expropriated 1947-67. Both injustices should be resolved together. Boycotts fail to acknowledge this.

  • Some dude

    Well lets see I see numerous possibility’s and have personnaly advocated for many solutions where I have practically none seen been put through. Why cause they are stubborn and I’m the most stubborn person alive. Just like many others I have seen what they have done wrong and even offered a solution. But just like many others it had no effect what so ever. Cause for some strange reason the war machine has to keep going on cause that is where the most profit is. Reason simple everything that is destroyed has to be rebuild. What do they do they play there cards just so that everyone goes along with it. Why? Cause they like to do so and because they can get away it. Why because they got all the protection they ever wanted but at least I aint protecting them I like to give them a chance to make it better but for some strange reason they like to do as before. Obama says that on his next term he’s gonna change his policy and make it better. Well to be honest you can do that in 2 way’s and he still wouldn’t be lying. He can do it in a good way (giving the people their rights back if it were me all of them but compromises need to be made at least that is what I have been told) for or in a bad way (helping out the big shots who focus on making more money to just throw it all out once again just to make even more money leven the rest of ya hanging). I also saw Ron Paul popping up and is he still running for president or not or is he scared of taking the reponsibily cause more and more are starting to have faith in him or is he just playing the dude who alway’s shows everything that is wrong with it and not act afterwise. I would love to take it all on me and on the other hand why not it would most likeley be the easy way out for me. All I would have to do is sing of all control back to the people and let them make the best out of it for with all the knowledge I have even I can’t say wat should and should not be allowed for you can’t know if it’s good unless you try it no? So I would ask of all o them resing your position and hand it over. I’ll gladly put it in hands of the people and I’ll hand pick a whole lot of them just because I know for what they stand for peace, love and harmony. But I haven’t seen a single one aproach me and they all know where I am. Sincerely the so called nut case/devil/god/salomon/etc,,. What is it that I’m saying give them their *************** lifes back :-)

  • Kevin


    “Or to shoot white rioters when Romney loses.”

    You will not see riots because Romney looses.

    If (or more likely when) the currency devalues and the “Formula” that computes inflation raises SS by 3% when your cost of living actually goes up 30% there will be a lot of upset people at the SS office. It’s unfortunate that some WWII vet will face a gun twice with the second time in his own country.

    • Piglet

      It’s “loses,” not “looses.”

    • liberranter

      “Or to shoot white rioters when Romney loses.”

      Please. I can’t imagine that there are more than a few hundred people, AT MOST, scattered across the country who are enthusiastic enough about Willard to riot in the event he loses the (rigged) election. In fact, anyone whose life is so devoid of meaning as to RIOT for something like Willard Romney isn’t worth wasting lead on. Letting them to continue to exist as they are is more than punishment enough.

  • This article basically supports my supposition, that any American who doesn’t see how Ron Paul is, BY FAR, the best candidate in the 2012 Presidential “Race”, is truly an IDIOT.

  • Michael

    The person that wrote this article is a complete idiot

    • Michael

      It is okay to make that assertion, but if you don’t give any evidence then you are not going to persuade anyone.


      • Tucko

        Michael, you yourself make only assertions and give no evidence….

  • Aaron

    41. They both have attended Bilderberg.

    • Michael

      Good point

  • GA

    I think Michael’s article just proves that there will be no fix. No easy answer. It is both R and D fault, libs and conservatives. The reality is there is no solution. Please get your preps in order, start by visiting http://www.survive2balive.com and other preparedness web sites. Get a preparedness strategy in place because when things go south you will not have anyone to rely on but yourself.

    • liberranter

      That is indeed the conclusion of this article, one which many of us arrived at long ago. As Sting and the Boys famously said in one of there songs “there is no political solution.”

      • liberranter

        Oops, make that “their” songs.

  • knightowl77

    As to the bullets ordered by Social Security and the Weather Service who cares? That is barely enough to equip the security guards that guard their offices…The amount of rounds ordered by DHS is however staggering and should cause some jaws to drop in wonder…

    As to the election in November were it just between Obummer & Romney I would stay home. But Obummer got ObamneyCare passed and SCOTUS refused to strike it down….So I will vote for Romney to keep his promise and repeal OSamaObamaCare….If Romeny does keep his word and does only that, I will consider it a victory. Down with ObummerCare!!!

    As to GitMo, KEEP IT OPEN and triple the # being held there, better there than on the US mainland….

    GWBush and Obummer almost identical…One is branded a war criminal and the other gets a peace prize yet they kill all over the globe. McVain & Rommney are just as bad and would/will kill all over the globe….

    Quite simply we are screwed by the powers vested in DC and that must END and soon. Killing ObamneyCare will give us a little breathing room.

    Time to STAND UP and TAKE the POWER BACK. The Power, CONTROL and Money in DC has to be broken up and return to the Founding Principles.

    • Piglet

      [As to GitMo, KEEP IT OPEN and triple the # being held there, better there than on the US mainland…]

      The vast majority of those held at Gitmo have been released after the US belated discovered what had been obvious to others for years… The US had gone into Afghanistan and offered tens of thousands of dollars for members of the Taliban, Al Qaeda, etc. The locals quickly discovered Americans had a lot of money but absolutely no knowledge of Afghanistan, so they grabbed just about anyone except for the stray dogs and sold them to the gullible Americans, to include adolescent young boys and a deaf 80-year-old man. (Gee, no wonder he wasn’t answering questions during interrogations!)

      Funny thing about the “land of the free”… We have the highest incarceration rate and the highest number of people locked up in the entire world, we’re $16 trillion in the hole and yet some clamor for more prisons, more torture, and more of these useless, horrendously expensive wars. We’re on track to a complete collapse and we’re doing our best to get there as quickly as possible.

    • Gay Veteran

      knightowl77, you do know that many innocent people were imprisioned at our gulag at Gitmo

      imprisionment without trial is the hallmark of a tyranny

  • Mr. G

    It’s the controlled nature of Obama that bothers me. I did not like to see him elected, but I gave him a chance in my mind. Even if he’d come up with lots of wacky liberal programs, I’d respect the man more than I do. He truly is the sequel to GWB, another guy I gave a chance when I voted for him – I’d take back the votes, if I could.

    There is no hope in politics. It is all so far out of the control of the real people by now.

    Michael, there is one good thing I’ve noticed – there is now a convergence of what liberals and conservatives are complaining about. Often, I can’t tell whether I am reading a liberal or conservative site right at first because the common denominators – control-grid government, loss of free speech, etc., are all there. So, this convergence is a good sign! Maybe we are getting somewhere after all.

    Mr. G

    • A.S.

      You can tell if someone is conservative:
      1. Believes in following the U.S. Constitution to the letter
      2. Wants to end useless organizations/departments like the Federal Reserve, CIA, FBI, NSA, DHS, Dept of Education, FDA, USDA, etc.
      3. Desires every citizen to be socially responsible for themselves and not rely upon govt handouts or blame anyone for their misfortunes, albeit, a corrupt fascist system.
      4. Ending all wars and U.S. occupation (although liberals desire desire this now because Obams is in charge).
      5. Treating everyone who commits crimes equally without any regard to their race, ethnicity, religion or monetary status.

      There is a whole lot more, but lets start with these.

      • A.S.

        Number 5 means put in prison for life people like all the CEO bankers, Wall Street tycoons, most of Congress, Corzine, Bernanke, and yes, even Obama himself. Have them make license plates in prison at 10 cents per hour for life. The money they make will be used to buy food which will be given to them, just enough to sustain them. And of course freeze their bank accounts and take it all away and split it among the homeless. That will be justice.

        • liberranter

          Your list is meaningless. Given the fact that none of them who call themselves “conservatives” and who have attained political office have ever done anything to make this list a reality, there are NO real conservatives worthy of the name.

        • Sharon Hansen

          A.S. I think I love you. I agree with everything you say. I think you can call Ron Paul a conservative. The RNC & Romney made sure he didn’t have a chance even though he should have. He was cheated so much we will never know. Everything they did to him were felonies but it doesn’t appear anyone is going to do anything about it. I’m not voting for evil at all. I’m voting for Gary Johnson. I agree with everything he says too so he’s getting my vote. I don’t trust or believe anything Obama or Romney say. They are puppets. Gary has an outstanding record of being governor of New Mexico for 8 years. The state was in bad shape when he took over. When he left 8 years later they had a 1 billion dollar surplus. Of course they say the elections are rigged which they probably are. If Johnson wins, it’s not rigged or they didn’t rig it enough. The republicans have done everything they can to get Johnson out of the race as well. They don’t want good decent men as president. If I had the power that Obama has, I would do some serious house cleaning. All of the above would be tried and convicted and sent to prison for as long as the law allows. Did you all know that Bush Sr was head of the CIA on November 22, 1963 and he was in Dallas on that day too? He was arrested but let go when he told them who he was. I guess if you are head of the CIA, you can do whatever you want also. I’ll let you draw your own conclusions.

  • Mr. G

    By the way, I was dropped from my insurance because the insurance company told my company Obamacare would make it to expensive to insure me. Could just be an insurance company lie, I know, but still – I was unhappy. I can’t get more insurance. I can’t afford it at my age and with my conditions. It is only a matter of time before I am in a crisis of medical-related debt. Mr. G

    • Gary2

      insurance companies are scum

      • liberranter

        Another ignorant statement from an economic illiterate.

      • Col. Wilson

        So obama is the cause of this person not being able to get insurance & you call the insurance companies scum?

        Wow thats like saying the bee sting is to blame not the bee.


    • Mal R

      Pfft. We all know this isn’t true. The Bamster told us all we’d be able to keep our healthcare as is if we wanted and Gary2, our resident expert on ethics, principles and values, said that only Republicans are liars. Get with the program or report for re-education.

  • Ms. P

    So we still have Ron Paul running. Why did you leave him out of the story. People please go do your own home work about Ron Paul and you will see he and God can fix our country! He’s the man for the job and it’s time people open their eyes and support him.

    • Tucko

      HAHA, now THAT’S funny. God needs Ron Paul’s help eh?

      • Lima Bean

        Who said God cared about whether a COUNTRY failed? God’s interested in PEOPLE, not COUNTRIES.

        That being said, if a presidential candidate does something to further God’s availability to PEOPLE, he’s going to be for it.

  • It is a shame what our counrty has become.It is disgusting.After reading the comments,on all of the articles,there are some people that get upset that all being said are just negative things about this country.We have to shine light on evil and darkness to be able to understand what is happening and make changes.when people change,things will change.If we follow the same path we are on,we are headed to our own destruction.
    Michael,I am personally thanful for these web sites that you post.I learn a lot from you and the people who put up the comments,and I share these sites with people here in the USA and Mexico.
    Unfortunatally,these two FREAKS OBAMA & MITROMNEY ARE THE SAME PERSON,in my opinion.I REFUSE to vote for the lesser of two EVILS.The choice is like choosing between ADOLF HITLER and JOSEPH STALLIN.Who killed less people between the two of them? If one of them killed 20,000,0000 people and the other killed 19,500,000 people,is one of them the lesser of two evils? ABSOLUTLY NOT. Both of them are MURDERES.
    I see both of these candidates as the same. There is really no difference between them,and they are both following the same BILDERBERG AGENDA.It is unaffortunate that the American people will allow this and pick the candidates over the ‘HOT BUTTON ISSUES”like GAYS GUNS and GOD”AND OTHER NON IMPORTANT ISSUES LIKE OBAMA’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND ROMNEYS BANK ACCOUNT.
    The important issues are the things that affects us DIRECTLY, like the DEBT,THE NEVER ENDING WARS,THE GUTTING OF THE ECONOMY,THE DEVALUATION OF THE DEVALUATION OF THE DOLLAR,THE CORRUPT GOVERNMENT and many other things that you will find in this website.



    The following list isn’t just a bunch of opinions, but documented facts that together draw a compelling picture: Far from being polar opposites, the two “choices” offered as presidential candidates by this country’s two main parties are nearly indistinguishable on the substantive public policy challenges Americans face. Using the New York Times piece as a starting point, here are 100 ways Mitt Romney is just like Barack Obama:

    1. Star Trek

    2. Modern Family

    3. Chicken

    4. The signature legislative accomplishment of the man that Republicans have chosen to repeal and replace “ObamaCare” was “RomneyCare,” which was the blueprint and model for The Affordable Care Act.

    5. The most controversial aspect of “ObamaCare” for its critics, was the individual mandate. Mitt Romney, like Barack Obama, believes individual mandates can be a good ingredient of public policy.

    6. Mitt Romney reminds critics that he believed “RomneyCare” was good for the state of Massachussetts, but shouldn’t be implemented nationwide, and that’s how he’s substantively different from Barack Obama. In 2007, however, Romney said: “I’m proud of what we’ve done. If Massachusetts succeeds in implementing it, then that will be a model for the nation,” suggesting that, like Obama, he is not opposed to federal mandates either– just controversial ones that his partisan opponents pass.

    (Items 7 – 9) As Jon Stewart points out on The Daily Show, Mitt Romney’s proposed legislative replacement for “ObamaCare” would keep everything in it other than the individual mandate, according to Mitt Romney’s own words:

    7. Like Obama and the Democrats provided for in the Affordable Care Act, Romney’s legislative alternative would make sure people who want to keep their current insurance can do so.

    8. Like Barack Obama, Mitt Romney wants to expand federal spending on Medicaid to help each state cover residents who cannot afford health insurance.

    9. Also like Obama, Romney’s “alternative” would make sure people with preexisting conditions will be covered.

    10. Both Mitt Romney and Barack Obama flip flopped on whether “ObamaCare” is or is not a tax when it was politically suitable.

    11. The same Wall Street recipients of TARP bailout money that were top Obama donors in 2008 are top Romney donors in 2012.

    12. The Obama Administration has failed to prosecute a single Wall Street executive for malfeasance related to the 2007 – 2008 financial crash. Wall Street’s aforementioned donation patterns make for a compelling conclusion: A Romney Administration would be no different.

    13. Setting aside the justice system, legislative fixes for perverse incentives on Wall Street have likewise been underwhelming. Dodd-Frank has been impotent to prevent risky trading and stress tests for federally insured banks only anticipate another housing crash, not a catastrophic hit to America’s very monetary system itself. Instead of a substantive alternative to Obama and the Democrats, Romney’s solution seems to be to do even less: he wants to repeal Dodd-Frank.

    14. Like Obama, Romney supports taxpayer bailouts of struggling corporations– handouts that go from hardworking Americans to wealthy companies with irresponsible management.

    15. The most controversial bailout for Republicans and one of the motivators behind the Tea Party protest movement that began in 2009 was the TARP bailout of big Wall Street financials. Like Obama– who voted for it as a US Senator and continues to support and defend it as President, Mitt Romney supported and continues to support TARP.

    16. Not only does Mitt Romney approve of Barack Obama’s federal management of auto industry bankruptcies, he takes credit for it.

    17. Republicans criticize Obama for his role in getting Solyndra’s hands dirty with federal money, but at his own big financial company, Bain and Co., Mitt Romney secured millions in a federal bailout of his corporation’s own struggling finances.

    18. Though he’s flip-flopped on this issue along with so many others, Mitt Romney has also supported the federal stimulus package passed by the Democrats and signed by Barack Obama, writing that the “‘all-Democrat’ stimulus that passed in early 2009 will accelerate the timing of the start of the recovery.”

    19. Another thing that Mitt Romney and Barack Obama have in common is that the numbers strongly suggest they were both wrong about the 2009 economic stimulus package.

    20. Both Mitt Romney and Barack Obama oppose a full, yearly, public, top-to-bottom audit of the Federal Reserve’s finances and activities, citing the need for “Fed independence” from Congress.

    21. On monetary policy, both Mitt Romney and Barack Obama do not see any urgent need to change the status quo and any reform of the Federal Reserve system is not a public policy priority for either candidate.

    22. Like Barack Obama, who reappointed Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke, Mitt Romney has approved of Ben Bernanke’s handling of the financial crisis and monetary policy in America.

    23. Mitt Romney approves of Barack Obama’s Treasury Secretary, Tim Geithner’s record on economic policy as well.

    24. Like Barack Obama, economic stimulus via federal spending on infrastructure development is a policy priority for Mitt Romney.

    25. Both Mitt Romney and Barack Obama favor the extension of Bush’s deficit-funded tax cuts for the middle class.

    26. Though they are currently sparring over whether or not to extend the tax cuts for high income earners (ibid.), Mitt Romney supports making these tax cuts permanent for them as well (ibid.), and as president, Barack Obama has already extended these tax cuts for high income earners once. Actions matter more than rhetoric. Are the two really so different?

    27. Both Mitt Romney and Barack Obama supported the payroll tax cut extensions.

    28. Neither Mitt Romney, nor Barack Obama have charted a course away from the bipartisan consensus that deficit-funded tax cuts stimulate economic growth, so that other than putting up a big showy fight over the details of tax policy, their substantive philosophies of fiscal policy are essentially the same.

    29. Like Obama, Mitt Romney is open to a Value Added Tax as a potential fiscal policy solution.

    30. In discussions of tax policy, Mitt Romney’s working definition of “wealthy” or “high income” seems to be $200,000 a year (ibid.), the same as that commonly used by Barack Obama.

    31. Like Obama, Romney supports raising taxes on businesses, and did so as governor of Massachusetts, despite speciously claiming otherwise by calling his tax hikes on businesses in the commonwealth “closing tax loopholes.”

    32. Both Mitt Romney and Barack Obama‘s federal budget plans would add trillions of dollars to the already unsustainable national debt over the next ten years.

    33. Neither Mitt Romney, nor Barack Obama have offered a plan of detailed, substantive spending cuts to the out-of-control federal budget that pass the straight face test.

    34. On Social Security, Mitt Romney’s plan is to manage, tinker, and keep “kicking the can down the road.” Barack Obama’s plan is to manager, not tinker… and keep kicking the can down the road.

    35. Both Barack Obama and Mitt Romney have taken strong positions against earmarking in the US Congress.

    36. Neither Barack Obama, nor Mitt Romney‘s actions are consistent with their rhetoric on earmarks.

    37. Spending categorized as defense-related has only gone up during President Obama’s first term from $616 billion under Bush in 2008 to $768 billion in 2011, and Obama still wants even more. So does Romney.

    38. Both Mitt Romney and Barack Obama have international backgrounds and parents with international backgrounds…

    39. But both are foreign policy amateurs with backgrounds in domestic policy, finance, law, and community organizing rather than foreign policy…

    40. Yet their team of foreign policy experts, from Obama’s vice president, Joe Biden, and secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, to Mitt Romney’s team of Bush-era neoconservative foreign policy advisers, indicates their equal commitment to Washington’s unpopular and incoherent foreign policy status quo.

    41. And for the first time since 1944, neither of the two major parties’ candidates, Barack Obama, nor Mitt Romney, have military experience.

    42. Despite running on a platform of change, Obama’s first term as president has demonstrated his commitment to the Bush era strategies of nation building and counter-insurgency. Mitt Romney doesn’t think Obama’s commitment to nation building is strong enough.

    43. Both Mitt Romney and Barack Obama support the Bush era doctrine of preemptive war.

    44. Mitt Romney agrees with President Obama that the president can act unilaterally to take the country to war without Congress.

    45. Though Obama paints Romney as an American unilateralist willing to take military action without the blessing and cooperation of the international community, Romney and Obama actually both agree with the Bush era foreign policy of unilateral US military action, and Obama took unilateral military action in the Osama bin Laden raid.

    46. Though he has, unsurprisingly, held a different position before, Romney says he would have ordered the bin Laden raid like Obama did.

    47. Both Mitt Romney and Barack Obama believe the US military can be used for humanitarian intervention overseas without an imminent threat to American national security.

    48. Mitt Romney approves the NATO-led ousting of Muammar Gaddafi in Libya supported by the Obama Administration.

    49. Mitt Romney and Barack Obama both agree that preventing Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons is a national security priority for the United States.

    50. Both Mitt Romney and Barack Obama would unilaterally take the US to war against Iran to prevent it from acquiring a nuclear weapon.

    51. Barack Obama has been a consistent supporter and escalator, as both Senator and President, of George W. Bush’s war and counter-insurgency operations in Iraq. Mitt Romney thinks he isn’t supportive enough.

    52. Mitt Romney and Barack Obama are actively trying to outdo each other on which candidate supports economic sanctions against Iran the most.

    53. Barack Obama has involved the US in Syria’s foreign civil war. Mitt Romney wants to get even more involved.

    54. Mitt Romney supports continuing the Bush and Obama administration policy of cooperation with Pakistan despite its hostile activities toward US operations in Afghanistan and the fact that it appeared to have been harboring Osama bin Laden.

    55. Mitt Romney supports the Obama Administration’s policy of unmanned aerial warfare via predator drone in Pakistan.

    56. Tim Pawlenty– on Romney’s short list for a VP– has suggested that Mitt Romney would expand Barack Obama’s already unprecedented use of drone warfare.

    57. Mitt Romney supported Barack Obama’s massive surge of 30,000 troops to Afghanistan.

    58. Though he tries to distinguish his position on Afghanistan from that of Obama’s, The New York Times reports that “despite the tough critique, Mr. Romney has loosely embraced the main thrust of White House policy for troop levels after the election: a timetable for pulling out nearly all troops by the end of 2014.”

    59. Both Mitt Romney and Barack Obama consider Israel America’s best long-term strategic ally in the Middle East and are committed to using US military power to go to war alongside Israel against its regional enemies.

    60. Barack Obama has failed to close Guantanamo Bay as promised on the campaign trail and as president; Mitt Romney said in one presidential debate: “My view is, we ought to double Guantanamo.”

    61. Both Barack Obama and Mitt Romney support indefinite detention of terror suspects without trial as a valid and legal tool in the national security state’s war on terrorism.

    62. Both Barack Obama and Mitt Romney support the controversial practice of extraordinary rendition.

    63. Like George W. Bush, Mitt Romney and Barack Obama both speak in the rhetoric of American exceptionalism and divine providence concerning foreign policy.

    64. Both Mitt Romney and Barack Obama base public policy positions and actions on dimensions of their religious faith.

    65. Both Mitt Romney and Barack Obama support and want to continue Bush-era faith-based initiatives.

    66. Both Mitt Romney and Barack Obama support the warrantless wiretapping of the Bush-era USA Patriot Act, which Romney has praised and Obama has acted to renew multiple times as both Senator and President.

    67. Mitt Romney says that like Barack Obama did, he would sign the controversial NDAA, including its provisions for the arrest and indefinite detainment of US citizens on US soil.

    68. Like Obama, Romney believes in the legitimate power of the president to execute American citizens by “targeted killing” done in secret without charges or trial.

    69. Mitt Romney emphatically supported Barack Obama’s decision in 2011 to use “targeted killing” to execute US citizen Anwar al Awlaki by drone strike without charges or trial.

    70. On the Bush and Obama-era TSA, Mitt Romney’s position is tinker a little, but maintain the status quo.

    71. On undocumented immigration, Mitt Romney and Barack Obama‘s position may differ in some details, but can both essentially be summarized as “provide amnesty, but on certain conditions.”

    72. Both Mitt Romney and Barack Obama support continuing drug prohibition and the forty-year-old, Nixon-era War on Drugs.

    73. Mitt Romney also supports the continued raids and prosecution of medical marijuana dispensaries (and even patients) that have characterized Obama Administration as well as Bush-era policy on medical marijuana.

    74. Mitt Romney and Barack Obama both support executive line item vetoes.

    75. Despite criticizing Bush for unconstitutional executive overreach via signing statements, Obama has continued the practice, and Mitt Romney says he will too.

    76. Exemplary of their respectively mixed records on transparency, is the recent exchange between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney over releasing Romney’s tax returns and releasing the DOJ’s Fast and Furious records.

    77. Because he’s adopted multiple positions on abortion throughout his political career, it’s hard to determine what his actual views are, but Mitt Romney has agreed with Obama’s position multiple times on the importance of upholding Roe v. Wade.

    78. On gay marriage, what Obama and Romney have in common is that they have both changed positions (or “evolved”) on the issue, and curiously done so when it would be of maximum electoral benefit to them.

    79. On campaign finance, both Romney and Obama have supported campaign spending limits.

    80. On the campaign trail, both major party candidates frequently invoke and heap praise on Ronald Reagan, but it’s hard to tell if either Romney, or Obama, who once said, “In this country, prosperity has never trickled down from the wealthy few,” is really sincere.

    81. Mitt Romney and Barack Obama are both supporters of strict gun control measures.

    82. Both Barack Obama and Mitt Romney prioritize “reducing our dependence on foreign oil,” pursuing alternative energy sources, and setting regulatory efficiency standards as part of federal energy policy.

    83. Like Obama, Mitt Romney has said that he believes in global warming.

    84. Like Obama, Mitt Romney supports capping carbon emissions and did so as governor.

    85. Mitt Romney and Barack Obama both support international cap and trade policies via global carbon regulatory treaty.

    86. As The Atlantic reports, both Mitt Romney and Barack Obama have demonstrated a capacity for taking bold and unapologetic 180-degree turns on their stated policy positions.

    87. As exemplified by a Mitt Romney campaign spokesman’s infamous Etch-a-Sketch comment and Barack Obama’s plea to the Russian president for some space on missile defense until after the election, which was caught on a hot mic, both candidates have also demonstrated a willingness to be insincere on the campaign trail.

    88. Both Mitt Romney and Barack Obama’s signature legislative policies are unpopular with voters.

    89. This is likely one reason why both Barack Obama and Mitt Romney have engaged in so much negative campaigning emphasizing their opponent’s weaknesses rather than their own strengths.

    90. This is also likely for the regression of both candidates’ campaign rhetoric into the same old, worn-out, partisan talking points and the trite political rivalry of left and right; blue team and red team; Democrat and Republican.

    91. Though Romney has worked in big finance (to lobby for federal bailouts as aforementioned) and Obama did a stint in finance for one year, neither Mitt Romney nor Barack Obama have any small business experience.

    92. But both were community organizers and Harvard Law school graduates.

    Several more items that Mitt Romney and Barack Obama have in common are the following people, who represent multiple political points of view, and who all agree that Mitt Romney and Barack Obama have too much in common and few substantive differences on important matters of public policy:

    93. George Soros: “If it’s between Obama and Romney, there isn’t all that much difference except for the crowd that they bring with them… So it won’t be that great a difference and I think there won’t be a great deal of enthusiasm on either side of the battleground. It will be more civilised than the previous elections have been.”

    94. Newt Gingrich: “There’s a lot of parallels between these two guys…”

    95. Judge Andrew Napolitano: “Can a man who essentially agrees with President Obama on all the key issues realistically become the Republican nominee for president?”

    96. Rick Santorum: “And there’s no difference between President Obama and these two gentleman [Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich].”

    97. Gary Johnson: “Most Americans are hard pressed to find a difference between Romney and Obama when it comes to intervention.”

    98. Ralph Nader: (CBS News) ‘Consumer advocate and former presidential candidate Ralph Nader says he sees “far too little difference” between President Obama and presumptive GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney, arguing that “we deserve more choices in this country.”

    In the interview with Hotsheet on Monday, Nader said the president and his likely Republican challenger are essentially the same when it comes to foreign policy and their attitudes “toward Wall Street and corporate power.” The primary difference, he said, is their position on social services.’

    99. The Des Moines Register, the newspaper that endorsed Barack Obama for president in 2008, endorsed Mitt Romney for the Republican Party nomination in 2012.

    100. Voters: (Yahoo! News) “A new Quinnipiac poll shows Barack Obama holding a four-point lead over likely contender Mitt Romney in the 2012 presidential race. Politico noted that other recent polls project similar preference, with CBS/NYT calling the candidates tied, PPP giving Obama a four-point lead, and Gallup giving Romney a two-point lead. Only CNN/Opinion Research turned up a significant spread, with Obama in the lead by nine points.

    Why is the spread so close? Voters don’t seem to find much difference between Obama and Romney. [emphasis added] Gas prices and women’s issues are the only issues where either candidate has a decisive advantage, Politico said, with gas prices favoring Romney and women’s issues in Obama’s camp.”

  • I agree that there is little or no difference between Obama and Romney. I think that, however, is more of reflection on the two parties than on any individual candidate. Both are parties are beholden to the same corporate and banking interests, and neither truly represent the American people. America is moving towards fascism and BOTH parties are helping that along. Here is a good analysis that shows how recent events and policies in the U.S. fit into the 14 defining characteristics of fascism: http://www.examiner.com/article/14-defining-characteristics-of-fascism-the-u-s-2012. I recommend checking it out, because the author says basically the same thing – that there is no difference between the democrats and republicans.

  • I wonder how the author finds enough time to research all the links to back this material up, in article after article?

    Of course, anybody who follows the news enough to see the bigger picture KNOWS that people have no real choices within the established systems.

    One billion dollar candidate against another billion dollar candidate are the only “choices!”

    The fundamental system is totally rigged!

    Here is recent TED talk that asks some of the interesting questions, although it admits there are no good answers, since “the elites are deliberately managing the people’s mistrust.”

    The majority of Americans do not like their politicians, but there is nothing practical that they can do about that!


    Krastev: Can democracy exist without trust?


    The elites have escaped out of the control of the voters!

    • Michael

      I spend a lot of time at the computer.


  • liberranter

    Michael, I’m disappointed. I was waiting for your concluding paragraph that would summarize the obvious point of your whole piece: ELECTIONS ARE A FRAUD, ALWAYS HAVE BEEN, AND ALWAYS WILL BE.

    I guess I can assume that you thought that it wasn’t necessary for you to point this out to most readers of this blog.

    Oh, and just to remind your readers in case they haven’t already decided: DON’T VOTE!

  • Guido

    I’ve never seen much difference between the two. They’re funded by the same people. Their policies are not that different. They’re both flagrant liberals. And both get sweetheart treatment by the media. And I just don’t think they’ll end up fixing anything.

    We Americans are too ignorant and too enamored with the simplistic media/hollywood fantasy narrative that there’s always a good guy and a bad guy and a simple, easy-to-understand story of triumph against adversity. We’re spoon fed this pap all our lives. It’s disgusting when you can finally see it. Did you know 80% of US families didn’t even buy a book last year? We’re the suckers in the cave Plato warned us about, enraptured by the shadows on the wall.

    So I want to get out of the cave on this one.

    I’m an R, so I’m supposed to vote for Mitt, but he’s a doucher and I’ve never liked him because he’s as fake as a 3 dollar bill and always has been. I never understood why so many were willing to get in bed with him so fast. I also know Barry is no leader. Even with the glitz and glamour, he is a dismal failure. The only thing more pathetic than Barry is the fact so many people still believe in him.

    It’s a false choice and I can’t possibly support either one. I think I’m going to write-in this time. I can’t not vote, because I think it’s a civic duty, but I also can’t vote for either of my 2 options.

    If Mitt wins, and I figure he will, then at least Barry is stopped, but then Mitt starts. If Barry wins, at least we can be assured the country will collapse all that more quickly.

    The only positive to Mitt winning is he could be deposed in 4 years, too, only to be replaced by another hand-picked bought-and-paid for shill for the same interests both candidates serve. No win. I’m reminded of the W.O.P.R. computer in War Games, “The only way to win is not to play.”

    Either way, I just can’t play the “lesser of two evils game” anymore. I just end up feeling like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football every 4 years.

    But don’t let my apathy distract you. The show must go on. Pick your favorite puppet and watch the election hijinks while the economy continues to crumble around us.


    90 MILLION people need to go to VOTE IN NOVEMBER and let the pollsters know that we are here. Write in your own name, your dog’s name or whatever you want but let us make it clear. There is a proposal on the ballot in MICHIGAN that is reason enough to VOTE IN NOVEMBER. Check your state ballot before giving up your privilege to participate.

    • liberranter

      No one should EVER EVEN CONSIDER voting until “None of the Above” becomes an option on ALL ballots, for ANY election, for any office, at any level, ANYWHERE in the USSA.

      Unfortunately, given the rampant fraud that is part and parcel of Amerikan elections, even if a clear majority opted for “None of the Above,” Diebold would ensure that such votes were never counted.

  • What does anybody expect out there? Of course there isn’t much of a difference!
    If you are going to race your car at 125 miles an hour and hit a brick wall, you’re dead!
    If you hit that wall at 100 miles an hour, you’re finished. A lesser evil; the results are pretty much the same!

  • JR

    Good points. However, I will vote for Romney (I voted Ron Paul in the primaries) for two reasons:
    A.) There is chance we could recover from a Romney presidency; we will NEVER, EVER recover from four more years of Obummer
    B.) I would rather have Romney picking the next Supreme Court judges

    I also think Ryan is decent. In sum, yes, it’s not much of a choice, but if you allow Obummer to get in by default, it will be the end. With Romney, we can live to fight another day, hopefully.

    • DL.

      I stopped voting for the lessor of two evils after 2000 when I voted for Bush to stop Gore. In 2004 I voted Libertarian. In 2008 I voted Chuck Baldwin. It’s 2012 and I AIN’T VOTING! Period, end of Story! If you REALLY SUPPORT RON PAUL YOU WON’T VOTE FOR THE GUY WHO HAS STOPPED PAUL’S DELEGATES FROM ATTENDING THE RNC IN TAMPA. If you REALLY SUPPORTED RON PAUL, you WOULDN’T VOTE FOR ROMNEY OR OBAMA! Voting for the lessor of two evils is VOTING FOR EVIL!

  • Gary2

    so heads I win and tails I also win…

    • Col. Wilson

      “so heads I win and tails I also win…”

      And that is the problem – they have you fooled in thinking you will win when in fact you are being enslaved.


  • Gabriel

    So vote for someone else, break with the two party system! Nowhere is written that there should be only two parties. Parties can and should change with time, and if they doesn’t you have reasons to be suspicious and skeptical. Vote for the Libertarians, or vote for SEP, or any other option, but first break a system that doesn’t seem to represent you anymore. Speak with your vote!

  • Stephen

    Hahaha this article is such ********. Here is a person posting “opinions” and yet fails to clearly see each candidate is drastically different. We either have Obama thinking government should pick winners and losers, a socialist, no independent energy plan, no deficit reducing plan, no new net jobs, a complete liar, sealed college records and no proven birth certificate or we have Romney who believes and is in favor of capitalism and the free market, Paul Ryan with a deficit reducing plan and reform on entitlements, an independent energy plan that allows the US as the top oil and natural gas producer to use our own fuel, open records, a real jobs growth plan. They are contrarily different – you will see in the debates – the Democrat party has changed – it is not the same as Bill Clinton’s democratic party that is why you have people such as Arthur Davis and Steve Wynn who were self professed democrats overwhelmingly support Obama in 2008 but now switching to the the GOP as we have seen Obama lie and lean too far left. Prediction is Obama looses by a landslide, all you have to do is listen to leaders across the country and the message is clear we have an anti-business president – why do you think construction jobs is down overall, no new net jobs, unemployment still high – what happened to the shovel ready jobs? Didn’t Obama say he was going to cut the deficit in half by his first term and not sign a single bill which adds to our deficit, well each year it has been 1 trillion plus and our debt now at 16 trillion. You are an idiot if you think Romney Ryan want to keep spending and add to the deficit, that is why Ryan is on the ticket to show they are serious about debt: fiscal and monetary policies on a conservative basis. We have seen what a liberal does with our money – Obama throws it around and nothing gets better, we stay the same if not worse.

    • Mr. G

      Romney knows nothing about “winners or losers” or letting life pick them out like somebody said. He was BORN RICH.

      Now, by itself, this is not a problem, though it is highly suspicious in a person who wants to rule us all. However, I l especially hate it when those born rich also support what is basically social Darwinism. Don’t go around opposing handouts for others when you got the ultimate handout!

      This richie-rich candidate is actually not natural for Republicans. Some of our most born-poor presidents were Republicans. You could understand that Lincoln, Reagan, or even Nixon at least understood that life is a struggle for so many.

      This guy Romney is a richie-rich, plain and simple. Now, I am not one of these Democrats who hates the rich. I am not a Democrat at all. However, I have very grave doubts that a man like Romney understands enough about real life to be a good president, just as Obama, the Ivy League wonder-man, does not understand these things either.

      I would love to get Reagan back. I would even take Nixon in a heart-beat. Heck, I’d even take Clinton at this point! At least he had some reality in him.

      Mr. G

    • Gay Veteran

      right-wing troll

      • Mal R

        …said the left wing troll.

  • Troglobyte

    This was sent to me via email from a friend:

    From Greg Leary:

    “What is it going to take to wake you up?
    Congress is trying and succeeding at legislating away your privacy.
    As you read this, your cell phone conversations and emails are being monitored for key words.
    Congress has been trying to pass bills that will limit access to the internet.
    The government is requiring citizens to buy health insurance and will fine them if they do not.
    costs so much to run for President that 99% of the good candidates cannot afford to run and are never heard of or given a chance.
    The military is now allowed to indefinitely detain without trial American terrorism suspects arrested on US soil. Anyone could be labeled as a terrorist and subject to this law. Including you.

    The only way to keep America free and democratic is to stand up and not let our Liberty be legislated away.”

  • Ken Dixon

    I think there is a pretty sig difference. Obama supports equal rights has at least tried to take on greedy insurance companys that make billions of profits off the lifes and deaths of millions.Hes for gay marrige and leting them serve in the military without any shame or hiding. He lifted the ban on Stem cell research. He doesnt have his head in the sand when it comes to climate change as does Mitt and his lot there are a lot of differences and because of the hate only at all costs approach the Repubs have Obama is going to get my support

    • Gay Veteran

      sorry Ken, but Obama let the insurance and pharmaceutical companies write Obamacare

      and, even worse than Bush the Stoopid, Obama claims the power to kill Americans without trial or charges

    • Mal R

      “Obama supports equal rights”

      ****. Who doesn’t have equal rights? Homos? Not so much. Name me the person that’s not going to let a gay man run out and marry a woman.

      BTW. Marriage is a convenant DEFINED in the bible and RECOGNIZED by the state. Get it? Do you understand that difference? It’s not a homos right to alter something that isn’t theirs and they dont believe in in the first place. equal rights my a$$. Obama is a destroyer.

      • Gay Veteran

        wow Mal R, you continue to show your utter stupidity

        guess you’re like people in the 50s who said name me the person that’s not going to let a black man run out and marry a BLACK woman

        btw, the Catholic Church opposes divorce (based on the Bible of course), and yet we don’t let the Catholic Church DICTATE divorce law

        you’re obviously an authoritarian

        • Mal R.

          “guess you’re like people in the 50s who said name me the person that’s not going to let a black man run out and marry a BLACK woman”

          I’m sorry Gay, I’m not a Democrat. Shall I go ahead and post the complete racist history of the Demcorat party? Once you read (YA RIGHT!) the actual history of the democrat party, it’s clear it shore ain’t the republicans doing that bidness. BTW, I’m white and married to a green card holding Mexican woman.

          “btw, the Catholic Church opposes divorce”
          and that still gives you the right to dictate a BIBLICALLY DEFINED covenant how?

          A demcorat calling a libertarian authoritarian is so idiotically laughable, I wont make further comment.

      • Gay Veteran

        “BTW. Marriage is a convenant DEFINED in the bible and RECOGNIZED by the state”

        are you talking about polygamy? yeah, that’s in the bible

        I guess you don’t understand that you do NOT have to be married in a church in order for the state to recognize your marriage. And why are denying churches their religious freedom to conduct same sex marriages?

        • Mal R.

          and yet still it doesn’t mention two homos getting married. hmmm.

          • Gay Veteran

            well Mal R., if you want to live in a theocracy then move to IRAN

            and sorry to burst your bubble but all those racist Southern Democrats became racist Southern Republicants

            and you don’t understand that a marriage LICENSE from the state has nothing to do with religion

            and you’re a libertarian??? Karl Deninger says a TRUE libertarian would want the state to get out of marriage

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Your words, not mine.

            “but all those racist Southern Democrats became racist Southern Republicants”
            Pure liberal fantasy. I’m going to assume you’re trying to refer to Richard Nixon and the Southern Strategy.

            So, if Richard Nixon between 1969 and 1974 did all these things:

            1. raised the civil rights (the one that Democrats get credit for even though they filibustered it and MORE republicans by percentage voted for it) enforcement budget 800 percent;
            2. doubled the budget for black colleges;
            3. appointed more blacks to federal posts and high positions than any president, including LBJ;
            4. adopted the Philadelphia Plan mandating quotas for blacks in unions, and for black scholars in colleges and universities;
            5. invented “Black Capitalism” (the Office of Minority Business Enterprise) which raised U.S. purchases from black businesses from $9 million to $153 million, increased small business loans to minorities 1,000 percent, increased U.S. deposits in minority-owned banks 4,000 percent;
            6. raised the share of Southern schools that were desegregated from 10 percent to 70 percent.
            7. Wrote the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights in 1975, “It has only been since 1968 that substantial reduction of racial segregation has taken place in the South.”

            Yea, if Nixon did all that FOR blacks, why did racist democrats become republicans”

  • Ken Dixon

    we were by far worse with your last so called fiscal conservative in the office. Yea what is there plan since they both voted on just about every bit of legislation that added to our deficit? Sorry we couldnt clean up your mess as fast as you would like. Yea right then when their first war comes around they will gladly fork over trillions instead of maybe helping millions of their fellow americans suffering with health problems if not dying every where. I think if you look at all of the state polls Obama already has a 40 to 50 electoral vote advantage. Landslide? might be in the other direction

    • Gay Veteran

      wow Malcolm, if the racist southern Democrats didn’t become racist southern Republicans then why after 1965 did the Republicans do so well in the south?

  • Sure, a watermelon and a cantaloupe are almost exactly the same, but I cherish the differences.

    Romney is a business guy. Obama hates business guys and business itself.

    This article is a actually kind of goofy.

  • monk

    But it has always been like that for decades: Reagan clones.

  • Mondobeyondo

    Is Ron Paul still in the race? Just wondering.
    Haven’t heard his name mentioned in the mainstream media for at least 3 weeks.

  • Jeff


  • Anon

    Both campaigned abroad (foreign money, foreigners controlling us) both supported NDAA and both love the FED.


    Blinded by the neon lights.
    Hurry here, hustlin’ there,
    No one’s got the time to spare.
    Money’s tight, nothin’ free,
    Won’t somebody come and rescue me?
    I am stranded, caught in the crossfire
    Stranded, caught in the crossfire.

    Tooth for tooth, eye for an eye.
    Sell your soul just to buy, buy, buy.
    Beggin’ a dollar, stealin’ a dime,
    Come on can’t you see that I
    I am stranded ,caught in the crossfire
    I am stranded, caught in the crossfire.

    I need some kind of kindness, some kind of sympathy oh, no
    We’re stranded, caught in the crossfire

    Save the strong lose the weak,
    Never turning the other cheek.
    Trust nobody don’t be no fool,
    Whatever happened to the golden rule?
    We got stranded, caught in the crossfire
    We got stranded, caught in the crossfire
    We got stranded, caught in the crossfire
    Stranded, caught in the crossfire




    Why is the spread so close? Voters don’t seem to find much difference between Obama and Romney. [emphasis added] Gas prices and women’s issues are the only issues where either candidate has a decisive advantage, Politico said, with gas prices favoring Romney and women’s issues in Obama’s camp.”I SEE THE PRICE OF GAS GOING UP I THINK THE REPUBLICANS OWN THE OIL COMPANIES!!

  • Proftel


    Ouça essa música, procure a tradução.

    Vale a pena, pode crer:



  • Mark


    I want to thank you for the article. I guy that I worked for is absolutely convinced that Romney is the exact opposite of Obama, and if Romney was elected he will cut the deficit. I send him a link to this article and hopefully he realize that they are not at all that different.

    The only difference I see between the two candidates is that Obama will be able to bankrupt the country two months sooner than Romney.

    • Michael


      Most Romney supporters that see this article just get mad. :(


  • Nostradamus

    No need to list 40 reasons. One is enough:

    Both are captains of the Titanic. Both believe it will not sink, and are fighting over red wine or white wine to salute the glory of the ‘greatest country on Earth’.

    Unlike the passengers of the Titanic however, the people of the USA deserve these 2 fine captains. Because they put ’em there.

    The giant Greenland ice field of the Fourth Turning cannot be stopped. It will surround the USS Titanic and crush it no matter who’s the captain. Consider yourself a passenger, a crew member – what will you do?

  • Kevin

    Ken Dixon

    The climate change thing is interesting. We stop using coal so more is available for foreign export at a cheaper price. China, India and Brazil were exempt from any carbon reduction agreement proposed. OBTW according to Power Magazine China is putting on line two new coal fired plants per week. We’re talking 1950s environmental controls on them. As JFK said, “We breathe the same air”.

    I’m looking for a difference in policies that would create value adding self sustaining employment in the US; not feeding off the government employment but real employment. I just can’t see it. The Democrats throwing stones at the Republicans is funny when they support outsourcing through Free Trade just as much as the Republicans they blame.

    They’re getting battle lines being drawn on nonsense social issues that are insignificant in the big economic picture to further the illusion of Democracy. Your guy, my guy in the end are “Wall Streets” guy.

    “The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it’s profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.”

    ― Frank Zappa

  • DL.

    All I can say is this: considering all the hate from right wingers on left wingers like Gary2, and all the hate for rightwingers by leftwingers (like Gary2) on this site, does anyone really expect the American people to “take this country back” from corrupt and evil leaders? Not me, bro! Like I say a lot: we will get the leadership we deserve (and Michael is right, the American people are just as corrupt as our leaders). And I DON’T HATE JEWS! Just the Talmud, which is anti-Gentile and anti-Christ. If you don’t believe me, Michael, take a look at the Book of Sanhedrin some time.

  • Mal R

    Please indicate how ‘we were by far worse’ if nothing has changed.

    ‘sorry we couldn’t clean up YOUR mess’ Huh? what did Obama clean up? Who has he prosecuted that made the mess – his admin came out last week and declared NO ONE would be prosecuted from MF global?

    Whose health problems have been solved by the Bamster? You do realize socialist medicine causes more problems and death than it solves. Just look at Canada and England. You do know people die EVERY DAY and no socialized medicine is going to solve it.

    • Gay Veteran

      and insurance companies won’t solve it either. can’t make a profit without denying health care

  • underscore

    It’s true (and sad) that there is no real “left” in American politics, and on many issues the democrats are indistinguishable from their opponents. But it’s surely only a Republican politician who would seek the uneducated and intolerant vote, for example by claiming that “legitimate rape” doesn’t cause pregnancy.

    • Mal R.

      “But it’s surely only a Republican politician who would seek the uneducated and intolerant vote, for example by claiming that “legitimate rape” doesn’t cause pregnancy.”

      Yea, that ranks right up there with that leftist darling Woopie Goldberg and ‘that wasn’t rape rape’.

      “it’s surely only a Republican politician who would seek the uneducated and intolerant vote”

      Aww come on. The democratic bread and butter are the ignorant masses and the democratic left are fascists. Hellooo, talk about intolerant.

  • J

    You might wanna take a look at this article. It’s about Romney supporting auditing the Federal Reserve.


  • Tony

    Yeah, I agree that they are very similar. But there is one major difference. At least Romney is not a Marxist and right now that is very important.

    So… I will accept all other similarities to work with at a later date to eliminate the Marxist tendencies today.

    It’s good enough because it is the ONLY choice we have!


    Stirring the Pot: Republican Committee Calls for ‘Armed Revolution’ If Obama Re-Elected

    Michael Allen
    Opposing Views
    Mon, 20 Aug 2012 00:00 CDT
    In Virginia, the Greene County Republican Committee sent out a newsletter that reportedly calls for an armed revolution if President Obama is re-elected this November.

    Greene County rests in central Virginia and sits north of Charlottesville, Virgiana

    According to politicususa.com, the newsletter says that President Obama “shuns biblical praise, handicaps economic ability, disrespects the honor of earned military might,” but does not present any actual proof of these claims.

    Politicususa.com reports the newsletter says:
    President Obama, is a “political socialist ideologue unlike anything world history has ever witnessed or recognized,” and that the only option is “armed revolution should we fail with the power of the vote in November:” If one is confused as to what Republicans consider is a “political socialist ideologue,” the newsletter claims President Obama “shuns biblical praise, handicaps economic ability, disrespects the honor of earned military might,” and that under Obama, “the government is out of control, and this opportunity, must not be forsaken for we shall not have any coarse (sic) but armed revolution.”

    The Virginia Republican Committee newsletter was published in March, and the media or Republican leadership have been silent, and regardless if they support the overthrow of the government if the President wins a second term or not, they are guilty of inciting rebellion by allowing their candidates, spokespersons, and members of Congress to openly call for armed rebellion against the government of the United States.

  • Gil

    The two candidates are deemed essentially the same because neither are raging Libertarians and all non-Libertarians look the same to Libertarians.

  • Mondobeyondo

    A choice between Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum.
    The public doesn’t really care.
    They’re too busy tweeting their twits on Twitter.

  • guest


  • whome?

    You people are SICK! How about an intelligent conversation here?

  • M Burtoft
  • Kelly B

    I give this country about 5 more years before collapse, quickly followed by violence.. we shall see. Funny, we never hear anything about the Scandinavian countries..

  • ja ja

    Looks there are lots of similarities. Just wonder if there are any differences.

    A 2nd term OB would be much much more evil, much much more flexible(bent) though.

  • Afi K. James

    And let’s not forget obama and romney both support agenda 21.
    which is treason.

  • Dad

    Sorry, seems a lot like ‘Gil’ is right and that number 34 is not even open to question…We’d better think really hard before we give socialist Obama another crack at us.

    Love ya

  • Frediano

    This is a hoot; Rand pointed out the essentially identical socialist nature of the GOP and Democratic parties in 1959 in the Mike Wallace interviews; this is no news flash, this is half a century slow on the uptake.

  • Vincent

    Just to let the author know, some of the links have gone dead. :(