24 Signs That All Of America Is Becoming Just Like Detroit – A Rotting, Post-Industrial, Post-Apocalyptic Wasteland

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For years, people have been laughing at the horrific economic decline of Detroit.  Well, guess what?  The same thing that happened to Detroit is now happening to dozens of other communities across the United States.  From coast to coast there are formerly great manufacturing cities that have turned into rotting, post-industrial war zones.  In particular, in America’s “rust belt” you can drive through town after town after town that resemble little more than post-apocalyptic wastelands.  In many U.S. cities, the “real” rate of unemployment is over 30 percent.  There are some communities that will start depressing you almost the moment you drive into them.  It is almost as if all of the hope has been sucked right out of those communities.


Meanwhile, the economic downturn has been incredibly hard on the finances of state and local governments across the United States.  Unlike the federal government, state and local governments cannot use the Federal Reserve to play games with their exploding debt burdens.  Facing horrific budget deficits, many communities have begun adopting “austerity measures” in an attempt to slow the flow of red ink.  All over the nation, deep budget cuts are slashing police departments, fire departments and other basic social services, but it seems like no matter what many of these communities try the debt just keeps growing.

So when you combine economic hopelessness with drastic budget cuts, what you get are hordes of communities from coast to coast that are becoming just like Detroit.  In the city of Detroit today, there are over 33,000 abandoned houses, 44 schools have been permanently closed down, the mayor wants to bulldoze one-fourth of the city and you can literally buy a house for one dollar in the worst areas.  Many Americans thought that it was funny to make fun of Detroit, but little did they know that what happened there would soon start happening everywhere.

The following are 24 signs that all of America is becoming a rotting, post-industrial, post-apocalyptic wasteland just like Detroit….

#1 The second most dangerous city in the United States – Camden, New Jersey – is about to lay off about half its police.

#2 In the city of Camden, about the only “industries” that are truly thriving are drug-dealing and prostitution.  It is estimated that there are literally dozens of open-air drug markets in Camden.

#3 The city of Newark, New Jersey laid off 13 percent of its police force just last week.

#4 Of 315 municipalities the New Jersey State Policemen’s union recently surveyed, more than half indicated that they were planning to lay off police officers.

#5 At least 1000 people now live in the 200 miles of flood tunnels that exist under the city of Las Vegas.

#6 All over America, asphalt roads are being ground up and are being replaced with gravel because it is cheaper to maintain.  The state of South Dakota has transformed over 100 miles of asphalt road into gravel over the past year, and 38 out of the 83 counties in the state of Michigan have transformed at least some of their asphalt roads into gravel roads.

#7 The number of Americans on food stamps has hit yet another new all-time record.  42.9 million Americans are now enrolled and federal authorities fully expect that number to continue to skyrocket.

#8 The city of San Jose, California recently laid off 49 firefighters.

#9 Over the past year, approximately 100 of New York’s state parks and historic sites have had to cut services and reduce hours.

#10 In 2009 alone, approximately 4 million more Americans joined the ranks of the poor.

#11 The state of Arizona recently decided to stop paying for many types of organ transplants for people enrolled in its Medicaid program.

#12 Many of the police in Arizona that patrol communities near the border with Mexico say that they are “outmanned” and “outgunned” and now live in fear of being taken out by drug cartel assassins.

#13 Gang violence in America is getting totally out of control.  According to authorities, there are now over 1 million members of criminal gangs operating inside the country, and those gangs are responsible for up to 80% of the violent crimes committed in the U.S. each year.

#14 Oakland, California Police Chief Anthony Batts has announced that due to severe budget cuts there are a number of crimes that his department will simply not be able to respond to any longer.  The crimes that the Oakland police will no longer be responding to include grand theft, burglary, car wrecks, identity theft and vandalism.

#15 One out of every six Americans is now enrolled in at least one anti-poverty program run by the federal government.

#16 The state of Illinois is so far behind on its bills that not even schools and essential social services are getting their money on time.

#17 The sheriff’s department in Ashtabula County, Ohio has been slashed from 112 to 49 deputies, and there is now just one vehicle remaining to patrol all 720 square miles of the county.

#18 As our local communities degenerate economically, it appears that they are falling apart morally as well.  There are approximately 400,00 registered sex offenders in the United States as you read this.

#19 In a desperate attempt to save cash, the city of Colorado Springs turned off a third of its streetlights and put its police helicopters up for auction.

#20 According to one recent study, approximately 21 percent of all children in the United States are living below the poverty line in 2010.

#21 According to the U.S. Department of Transportation, more than 25 percent of America’s nearly 600,000 bridges need significant repairs or are burdened with more traffic than they were designed to carry.

#22 In Georgia, the county of Clayton recently eliminated its entire public bus system in order to save 8 million dollars.

#23 Things have gotten so bad in Stockton, California that the police union put up a billboard with the following message: “Welcome to the 2nd most dangerous city in California. Stop laying off cops.”

#24 Major cities such as Philadelphia, Baltimore and Sacramento have instituted “rolling brownouts” in which various city fire stations are shut down on a rotating basis.  So if you live in one of those cities and you have a fire, you had better hope that your local fire station is not scheduled for a “brownout” that day.

As I have documented in article after article, the “American Dream” is rapidly becoming the American Nightmare.  We were once a nation that was endlessly expanding, endlessly growing and endlessly becoming more powerful, but now just the opposite is happening.

All of this didn’t happen overnight.  Back in 1982, Billy Joel could see what was starting to happen and he released a song entitled “Allentown” which captured the depression that many residents of once great steel cities were experiencing.  The song started out with these two lines….

Well we’re living here in Allentown
And they’re closing all the factories down

Well, the United States has lost over 42,000 factories since 2001 and now all of America is turning into “Allentown”.

Unfortunately, things are going to get even worse.  Thousands more factories and millions more jobs will be sent overseas.  The debt loads of our state and local governments will continue to skyrocket.  The truth is that city after city after city is going to start looking like something out of a third world country.

But perhaps you disagree.  Perhaps you believe that America’s greatest days are just around the corner.  Please feel free to leave a comment with your thoughts below….

  • Gary

    Tax the rich and spread the wealth, Problem solved!

  • Bruce Jonathan Fick

    Support Virginia’s Constitutional Convention proposal to enact a Repeal Amendment.9 other
    States including Texas are behind it. Illinois,
    Wisconsin, California, and Colorado sound like
    they need to support it too. With it 2/3 of the
    States acting in common cause could repeal the
    unConstitutional laws that never get to the Supreme Court,specificly,Nobamacare,Prohibition,
    Patriot Act,the Federal Reserve Act. By ending the endless crushing debt that’s been eating the
    USA like a Cancer, we can restore equilibrium.
    And then, when we eliminate the lobbists, we can
    finaly elect our own people to Congress/White House instead of the Corporate raiders there now.

  • Tony

    Gary, you are a moron

  • El Pollo de Oro

    In the words of Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five….

    “It’s like a jungle, sometimes it makes me wonder
    How I keep from going under”

    That song, “The Message,” came out 28 years ago in 1982–and American cities have gotten a whole lot worse since then. More and more, cities in The Banana Republic of America are going to be looking like Johannesburg, Port Moresby or Caracas. You’ll have the wealthy minority needing round-the-clock bodyguard protection, while the dirt-poor majority will live in Third World misery and bonecrushing poverty. Favela slums will become the norm.

    Welcome to hell. Welcome to The Banana Republic of America, formerly known as Gli Stati Uniti.

  • VegasBob

    I attended University in Bethlehem, PA before the steel mills closed completely. Allentown, PA was right next to Bethlehem. I probably wouldn’t recognize either city anymore.

    It’s sad. The people vote out Republicans and vote in Democrats, but it doesn’t get better. Then they vote out Democrats and vote in Republicans and it still doesn’t get better.

    It just keeps getting worse.

    Regardless of political party, our political leaders have been so cowed by rich and powerful banksters that they are afraid to prosecute those responsible for trillion$ in financial crimes. And they wonder why there is no respect for law anymore.

    There is no hope anymore.

  • mondobeyondo

    So much for those “alabaster cities gleam(ing).. undimmed by human tears”…

    And it won’t be much longer before we lose those purple mountains majesty, above the fruited plain, either.

    America, America, God has abandoned Thee..

  • bob

    “Endlessly growing” <– Infinite growth is impossible. The whole article is the pudding.

  • mondobeyondo

    Well… at least Baghdad has plans to rebuild their city…

  • William

    While one might argue that the decline would come anyway, it was the Smirking Chimp Bush with his tax cuts for the wealthy, and his unnecessary war of choice for Israel in Iraq that accelerated the collapse. America cheered when the bombs and missiles were raining down on Bagdhad in March of 2003, not knowing that the USA simply could not afford the EMPIRE that the Khazar NeoCons so desperately wanted. So now, when we need to spend on America and her people to escape this harsh economic downturn, we can not because of our stunning debt and deficits. Just think what the $120 BILLION that will be spent in Afghanistan this year would do for hungry children and the homeless in America.

  • coolrob

    It looks pretty bleak and the worst may be yet to come but I bet we eventually come out on the other end as strong as ever.

  • Lord Vader

    Good news Gary – looks like your unemployment will be extended for another 13 months. So you’ll have even more time to post your “tax the rich” comments everywhere.

  • zack

    Speaking of Detroit, I was considering buying some investment properties that had fallen in price from about $150K in 2007 to $20K in 2008. Conventional wisdom was that prices couldn’t possibly go any lower. In 2009, the price had fallen to $2,000! Given the urban hell that Detroit has become, we are getting to the point where the city will pay people just to take responsibility for the property.

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  • Actually, the shift back to gravel from asphalt (or typically oil-and-chip) for country roads has been going on for quite a while. When I was growing up on the farm in the 1970’s, all the township roads were gravel. In the early 1980’s there was a big push to get them redone as oil-and-chip, apparently to reduce dust. However, within a few years it became obvious that freeze-thaw cycles in the spring quickly made them a mess of potholes, and it was more work to patch all the potholes properly than to simply re-grade a gravel road and add the occasional load of new gravel. So by the early 1990’s (the last time I went by the old homeplace) the township was turning them back into gravel roads.

  • John

    Gary should read Atlas Shrugged. BTW the audio book is out if he can not read.

  • Apocalypse is not the correct word to use here. Apocalypse means an awakening or unveiling. Armageddon would be more apt.
    Tony, I agree with you, taxing the “rich” and spreading the wealth worked so well in Russia didn’t it?

  • jj

    Unfortunately Gary’s enviousness of the rich is very typical.Read comments to articles in the NY Times and you will find most posters agree with him,that if you could just take everything from the rich and give it to the middle class and poor,it would solve all our problems.This belief has caused huge growth in inefficient,wasteful govt as citizens use the vote to steal from fellow citizens.I think people know that stealing is wrong if they mug someone on the street but is OK if they do it by electing a politician to do the stealing for them.The middleman,govt takes such a huge cut in the process,it would be more efficient if citizens just broke into each others’ homes and stole rather than go through govt.This is the primary reason the country is in decline.The decline began around 1970,right after we put a man on the moon.About the time we ended honest gold/silver backed currency.People elected Obama since he offered them “something for nothing”.He told the ignorant masses that the 95% of good people would see their lives improve at the expense of the evil richest 5%.It didn’t work and never will.What we need is less worshiping of govt(stealing from each other) and more worshiping of god(self sufficient, hard working,responsible).We need to stop this major divisiveness,caused by conficatory graduated taxes.We need 3 things.1)An honest,same % rate tax of 15% with no deductions for ALL incomes(let the people who think 15% is too low and wasteful govt deserves more, contribute any amount beyond that and the extra could go to lowering the 15% rate for the lowest incomes),2)No govt borrowing.They have proven irresponsible with credit and should only spend what they take in,which results in a balanced budget,3)An honest,money backed currency.I don’t think Americans,the majority being short term greedy and long term stupid,are going to make the changes necessary.So we continue to decline.

  • roland mayer
  • Jack

    America was made great by its Europeans. Its decline was set in place with the civil rights movement that has been destroying everything White.

    BTW, Gary, you truly are an idiot.

  • Mr Carpenter

    If the entire enchelada goes up in flames my next sentence won’t matter.

    But just in case things don’t quite deteriorate to that point but continue on the downward trajectory they’ve been on since oh about 1913 or so when our country was handed over to the bankers by “our” then CONgress – let me suggest that all readers here consider their lives being more important than “money”, “position”, “wealth”, “work future” etc. and try to sell up their houses if they live in anyt town/city larger than about 25,000 and get out.

    Go to a small town or rural area, and establish yourself.

    Gary, for you, I’d suggest a small town in some libtard state like Minnesota (I don’t know if it’s the water or what….) but most small town America won’t welcome you, with your opinions…

    There’s still a very small remnant of some respect in small towns for folks somewhat better off then others (especially if they hire local folks for jobs and pay them a reasonable wage, which DOES HAPPEN). Painting these folks with a broad brush (“let’s tax the rich and give to the poor”) won’t set very well with the folks in small Real-American towns and rural areas.

    What’ll get you respect is working hard, being honest, and looking folks in the eye when you conclude fair business with them.

  • Mike Constitution

    If Saddam was still in power, at his historical rate of murder, 200,000 more Iraqis would be dead today on top of the 107,000 Iraqis that have died since the liberation; and most of those deaths were at the hands of other Iraqis.

    The Bush tax rate reductions go to everyone that pays taxes, the top 50%, spurred strong economic growth after the slowdown caused by the 9/11 attacks, and resulted in record low unemployment.

    Americans make up less than 5% of the world’s population and produce about 23% of the world’s output of goods and services; America’s gross domestic product was about $14 trillion in 2009 versus China’s $1.33 trillion and Japan’s $1.28 trillion.

    The United States is still the largest manufacturer in the world with about triple the output of number two China or number three Japan.

    The housing bubble, financial crisis, and recession were caused by government meddling in the markets by forcing banks, with threats of fines and prosecution, to make risky mortgage loans to the “disadvantaged” to promote homeownership; just another unintended consequence of liberal social engineering schemes.

    The economy will recover only when the government stops borrowing, spending, paying off unions, and causing uncertainty which will allow markets to find their equilibrium so private businesses can make reliable plans and start to expand and hire again; private businesses create real jobs.

    I have seen this before when Carter was President and everyone felt hopeless.

    In two years, President Palin, like Reagan, will lead another renaissance.

  • Aaron

    Sure, Detroit is a shithole. But a “rotting, post-industrial, post-apocalyptic wasteland”? That’s a bit much.

    But that is typical of an article that is too lazy to form a coherent structure, and so simply runs off a numbered list of statistics.

    The information covered here could have been used to write up a thoughtful and informative paper. But it’s clear this is all about getting a quick reaction, rather than promoting true understanding of the issues at hand. Or maybe you lack the understanding to take the information any further than this?

    Whatever. Just so you know this is like the 7th “top xx list” about the economy I have read this week. There is a serious lack of quality reporting about the economy, even online…

  • Victimized

    Seven of your points revolve around the laying off of Police officers. You seem to think that by losing police officers it means that America is going downhill, but I think it’s far from that.

    If police actually did their jobs and protected the public it’d be great, but most officers victimize regular people to make money for the state, most officers sit around doing jack shit on overtime. I’m glad to see their numbers reduced.

  • Gregg Riggs

    But everybody pray for the troops, ’cause they’re fighting for our freedom. They’re also watching NFL on their own network in hundreds of countries and ships at sea. Fight for our freedom, watching NFL, spending trillions of dollars. Pray and pray for them. Pray for them. They’re our heroes. Pray for them. Pray for them. Support the troops. Spend trillions more. Trillions more. Spend that money. More troops in more countries. More conflicts with brown people please. More prayers, more support, more money, more nations, more money. Who gives a flying **** **** about the actual “America?” Gotta support/pray for them troops.

  • mondobeyondo

    Agreed – let’s pray for our troops, and for their success against those who wish us ill. Our national soverignty may depend on those brave young men and women someday (today?!) But don’t spend our treasure and wealth defending other countries. Charity begins at home…

    Instead of laying off police officers, who try to enforce the law – how about laying off the pencil pushers and bean counter executives, who try to enlarge the profit margins in their ledger sheets?

    Just a thought…

  • I have no issue with what is written in the article. I’ve been telling people as much for more than 20 years. Unfortunately, I am here in the Wall Street Belt, and they are convinced that things are going well and will get better.

    Bruce Fick makes mention of a constitutional convention, which is not necessary, nor is it advisable at this point. The governor of the state holds an office that is superior to all federal offices except those that are specifically derived from enumerated powers. Any group of governors can by the simple act of revitalizing the Militia, See Article 1, Section 8, Clause 15&16, over power the federal government, and that includes the Supreme Court. The Militia is the only constitutionally authorized law enforcement that legitimately has ‘probable cause’, and that includes arresting judges when they are unable to site a specific tenet of a constitution that validates an unconstitutional act. There is no actual immunity for acts by judges, police, prosecutors, or legislators. The only immunity is for freedom of speech. Once an act is performed, and it is unconstitutional, or contrary to common law, then the perpetrator is subject to whatever rebuke the people deem appropriate.

  • I would like to make a clarification of what I said on the Militia. The Grand Jury in the hands of the people also holds the position of executing ‘probable cause’.

  • Stray Cat

    Gary, I really wish you could come up with something a tiny bit more original, but I think Obama will become a conservative first. Why do you even bother commenting?

  • A Dodgy Bloke

    About number 18 if you are caught taking a wiz behind a tree here in Colorado you can become a requested sex offender. Raise your hands if you know somebody who is either on SS disability, trying to get on SS disability, or thinking about SS disability.
    Too many of us have become to soft, to complacent, looking to get what’s theirs and not looking at the whole and how their actions affect other people.
    I’ve pretty much given up, when you have the TSA groping kids and their parents just stand there because “They are keeping us safe” you have to throw up your hands and say the sheep deserves what happens to them.

  • Puppet King

    When police officers are axed the crime rate goes up. When crime rates go up in a particular community, area or city the property values for housing crash like a falling stone. The housing collapse turns into a complete meltdown. Similarly businesses (shops, restraunts, gas stations and retail outlets) in the affected area also no longer feel safe to operate and ultimately close down. Business real estate and commercial real estate values end up getting trashed like hell. More jobs are lost as a result and cities thus end up in a downward death spiral that is impossible to recover from. Just like in Detroit other cities will end up with the same fate where 100k home prices now will crash to one dollar just because of rising crime rates and lack of maintainance by city workers.
    Here is a list of some cities that are guaranteed to be the next Detroit by 2012, some even earlier:
    Phoenix, AZ; Stockton, Oakland, Sacramento, LA, San Diego, California; Las Vegas, NV; And this is only the west coast.

  • Get Bent

    Mike Constitution If Saddam was still in power, at his historical rate of murder, 200,000 more Iraqis would be dead today on top of the 107,000 Iraqis that have died
    In two years, President Palin, like Reagan, will lead another renaissance.

  • Mike DeConstitution If Saddam was still in power, at his historical rate of murder, 200,000 more Iraqis would be dead today on top of the 107,000 Iraqis that have died. Try a million dead thanks to the Bushes & three million displaced no WMD just Damm Oil & 10 years of lies. Next The Housing Bubble Was not cause by gov Intervention but by no intervention (Glass_Stegal Repealed)& Wall St Owning Congress (see movie inside job)for the details
    If elected in two years, President Palin, will lead the Final Eulogy of America on “Dancin with the stars”. She’s just another NEO_Con or Neo_Lib no Difference than either Bush or Obama. Instead Join the revolt “End the Fed” Vote Ron Paul & Jesse Ventura

  • Some Dude

    Don’t you just love it? Can’t wait for everything to collapse. Not that I want it to, but that since there is no way to get out of debt, no job, and no hope of things getting better then the new hope is for the system to implode.


  • Fred

    end the fed and return to the gold or silver standard and most of our problems begin to solve themselves. we must starve the beast known as the federal gov’t.

  • Ash

    In defense of Gary, watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq1zpHF0J04&feature=player_embedded#

    I agree that a simplistic ‘tax the rich’ attitude is sometimes just sour grapes, but we live nowadays in an international kleptocracy.

    That said, rather than ‘tax the rich’, we should go back to more intelligence credit systems. In the US, the States should follow North Dakota’s lead. And of course breaking up the private banking cartels headed by central bank institutions such as the Fed should have been done long ago.

    Then if you have a real economy, the ‘tax the rich’ cry would be less valid than it is now, although simply taxing them more won’t solve the underlying systemic problem. And in any case, they always find a way around such things.

  • zack

    I assume that Gary was being sarcastic. Apparently, you need to really lay it on thick to get your tone recognized here =)

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  • Senior Wences

    Lay off Gary.

    He’s not an idiot.

    He’s a dolt.

  • Some of us up here in the mountains of northern California have been talking about this for some time,……

    Here are some thoughts I had on the Constitutional Convention concept:

    1.- The convention should be made up of approximately 1500-1550 members, or 30 representatives from each state or territory covered by the constitution. The CC shall be disbanded upon the conclusion of their appointed tasks, and the legal seating of a full, legitimate US Government.

    2.- CC State members will be elected in a special election, held with no electronic balloting and managed in an open, fair and diverse manner that is managed on a local level, by local citizens.

    3.- The CC should be charted for two years and include appointment of CC members to hold temporary Agency Head or Secretary level positions. Additionally, the entire CC would vote on 9 members to hold temporary Supreme Court positions until a Constitutionally legitimate government is re-instated and can appoint/vote for a legitimate Supreme Court.

    4.- The CC shall be charged with examination of all Constitutional issues and arguments with regard to the modern foundation of US Government. The CC shall lay out a Constitutional method for structuring the country to allow for maximum levels of personal freedom in private and business affairs, yet still create a fundamental safety net in society for those less capable, fortunate or damaged. The CC will be structuring the country to handle a diverse, 21st century country of 300 million very different Americans. However, the CC will be charged with accomplishing this task within the basic principles of the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence. The CC shall be tasked with formulating Constitutional language that clearly define government’s role in society, and the elimination of government from all aspects of life that are based upon personal choice and consequences. The role of personal behavior within community necessity, will be formally defined for future courts and generations.

    5.- The CC will be charged with examination and elimination of the principle of Corporate Citizenship as allowed by previous corrupt Supreme Court Rulings.

    6.- The CC will elect/appoint a member-based clemency/parole Board. The role of this CC Board will be to release all Americans being held on non-violent drug or vice-based convictions in federal detention. The CC Clemency Board will also lead an active effort to reduce all prison populations within the state or territorial control, that also match the non-violent, personal-use type convictions.

    7.- The CC will be empowered with investigative and judicial power related to the apprehension and trial of all former US government officials who authorised and approved illegal activities ranging from assassination to all other levels of corruption. The CC will form a Truth & Reconciliation Commission that shall be empowered to use US Military force in the closure of the US CIA, and apprehension of all corrupt US Government Officials. Public disclosure of this R&C Commission’s findings, along with detailed information on the criminal activities of all Federal law Enforcement Agencies shall be a top priority of the Constitutional Convention.

    8.- The CC shall be empowered to investigate and control the Federal Reserve Bank of the US, and shall be empowered to make needed structural changes to US Monetary Policy. Monetary policy of the US should be designed to benefit the largest masses of citizens and not to maintain a corrupt elite.

    So,…..these were some of my thoughts.



    btw…I write,…had a memoir published,…but here’s a poem about where I chose to live the last part of my life,….it may be safer….


    Off the trampled path of Main Street,
    beyond a swollen mountain creek.
    A warmed and sheltered cabin,
    Greenwood is the peace I seek.

    Tangled limbs, a lust-warmed bed,
    tattered souls in a moment with a mission.
    Bodies piled between scattered sheets,
    Greenwood has no bad position.

    The softest of her pleasured snores,
    fill the gaps between locked fingers.
    The radio plays a country tune,
    Greenwood shows joy still lingers.

    Forest greens, and mountain blues,
    the palette of a gentle soul.
    Pain and loss burden her heart,
    Greenwood helps to hide the toll.

    Within this stony mountain town,
    ancient gold and modern speed.
    Families ripe with ravaged demons,
    Greenwood feeds their festering need.

    The beauty of this mountain town,
    across generations of true love.
    From deep within these people,
    Greenwood grows as heaven above.


  • Blitzkrieg

    Gary’s not a moron, he’s just a communist.

  • John

    Poor rich people. They pay a fraction of the tax rate they paid in the 1950s and whatever is left they usually avoid through clever accounting tricks. But we must help them further so we had the Bush tax cuts which was further aid to the downtrodden wealthy. Obama the “marxist socialist antichrist” just decided that the rich were not getting a fair shake so he extended the Bush tax cuts for the rich another 2 years. The rich decided they were not filthy rich enough so they speculated with housing, credit default swaps, derivatives and other exotic Wall Street casino games and lost trillions all over the world. Poor rich bastards! To make things right for the wealthy down on their luck the government decided to take tax payer money from the lower and middle classes and like a good “socialist” would redistribute it, however, not to the poor but to big banks and corporations who were “too big to fail.” Over $50,000 for every man, woman, and child in the US is going to help the rich who are down on their luck. Now with interest rates at 0% and with free money from the Fed you think the now prospering rich would go out of their way to help the collateral damage from their drunk binge of bad business decisions. The rich cannot do this because cutting bonuses will cause good executives who caused the financial armageddon to leave companies, taxing the rich will cause job loss, and extending unemployment will be a disincentive for people to look for jobs that don’t exist. One can only conclude that bailouts, handouts, and outright theft to aid the rich in times of crisis and exuberance is the best policy. For only a few hundred dollars a day you can treat a Wall Street executive to a swanky lunch that will bolster his spirit to continue the fleecing and pauperization of America. I can tell you where to send the check, but it has already been cashed in your name and the names of the other serfs who must carry the load for the affluent “master of the universe.” It is only fair.

  • mixwilliam

    Do we really need over 1000 military bases in 120 different countries around the world? Do we have to spend more money on the military than the rest of the world combined? And don’t give me that protecting our freedom line. I don’t think some tin pot dictator in Eastjerkistan is going to keep me from going to Walmart. Think of the local economies at these bases in those 120 countries, I’ll bet they are all doing better than Detroit. Bring our troops home where they belong protecting our borders and put the money back into our economy.

  • Pigbitin Mad

    I have to admit I was digging this site until I saw a recommendation to “Buy Gold” as a way to prepare for the “upcoming Apocalypse.” This sounds totally Glen Beckish to me even though I suppose it is a legitimate investment if you are not dealing with one of these bogus companies.

    Still, I just don’t understand why I would want such an ultimately useless metal if the entire country resembles Mad Max and Road Warrior?

    All that aside, I really do believe that prices of EVERYTHING must come down if they expect people to work for .50 cents an hour. I think the price of a home will have to be no more than $5000 if that is the case.

  • Ted


    2.) End the Fed ASAP

    3.) All States need to begin nullifying illegal laws, e.g., national “health care”

    4.) Terminate the following federal agencies and much money will be saved and much freedom restored: DHS, BATFE, Dept of Education, the CIA and the FDA.

    5.) End all foreign aid.

  • Sirk

    You people don’t get it. The wealth disparity between the top 1% and everyone else is greater than any time since the Great Depression. Even Warren Buffet understands that tax laws and loopholes allow the uber-rich to keep a bigger percentage of their money than those at the bottom. (Buffet said his tax rate is 15% while the secretaries’ rates are 33%.) So unless you are among the top 1% of US “earners” you are hurting yourselves by not wanting a higher tax rate for millionaires (and by not wanting national healthcare, but that’s another story). If you are among the top 1%, stop trying to live like a king at everyone else’s expense. Pay your fair share, and stop offshoring jobs to countries that pay slave wages! Can you all be sociopaths?

    BTW, the bank bailout money, which our great-grandchildren will still be repaying, resulted in a record $3 billion in bonuses paid at the top (for crashing the global economy). And the money wasn’t taxed at nearly as high a percentage as working people’s meager earnings. This is OK with you?

  • Bruce

    LOL Gary first one one to spread his welfare queen thinking. Gary you get 13 more months to become a professional Welfare Queen. Now you can populated all kinds of places with your communist thinking. What happen to the real men that worked and supported their families? You know what things are bad and it is going to take men to step up to plate and create jobs. Mike Post was outstanding.

  • Rearden Metal

    The gap in wages earned between American and foreign workers plays a part in this, of course, but there are other factors involved as well:

    Let’s say I need to build a factory, and pick a location for it. Well, if I place my factory on U.S. soil I need to worry about B.S. sexual harassment lawsuit, other B.S. lawsuits (I slipped and fell and my coffee was too hot, so I’m suing for $50 mil in damages). I need to worry about the EEOC and/or Jesse Jackson barging in my doors and shaking me down over a ‘lack of sufficient diversity in the workforce’. I need to worry about the EPA shutting me down because I’m supposedly not doing enough to protect the habitat of the white-shelled river slug.

    If I open my factory in China or Indonesia I don’t have to worry about any of these needless hassles- I can just build the factory and get the work done. America has become uncompetitive due to too much interference from sleazy lawyers and even sleazier government regulators interfering with the natural flow of business. Wages aren’t the entire story here.

  • 762X54R4U

    God has not abandoned America, America has turned her back on God.
    & that is why we are declining…

  • Bernd1964

    There are many reasons for the fast decline of the US and other industrial nations but most fundamental is the fact, that global net energy production has peaked around the year 2006 when global peak oil was reached.

    Hubbert’s cliff ( http://netenergy.theoildrum.com/node/5500 ) describes this sharp decline of global net energy production because of resource depletion and a worsening of energy return on energy investment (EROI). The age of cheap energy has come to an end now, which means that everything that depends on cheap energy like exponential economic growth, cheap food, affordable cars, air travel, consumerism, fiat money etc. will come to an end too.

    We are truly heading for a complete collapse of industrial civilization all over the planet within the next 5-10 years and there will be no renaissance of former lifestyles possible after this breakdown. We therefore need to invent a new civilization without over-consumption and destruction of our planetary life support systems.

  • Terrific informative article about the 24 signs. I am 59 and sadly remember when we made everything here at home. I don’t think any wishful thinking will ever restore it and I believe that we should get ready to be farmers again. How to get land and water for our citizens should be our next agenda.

  • I am a Muslim and hope that the above article is valid. For years ordinary Americans stood by whilst there troops were killing millions of innocents in Afghanistan and Iraq.

    Now when the same leadership is putting the american economy in trouble, they seem to notice. It seems Americans only consider their government evil not when they illigally invade Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan – but when the prosperity of white Americans deteriorates. You deserve all the harm your government can give you.

  • Fankapan

    ”In two years, President Palin, like Reagan, will lead another renaissance.”

    If you people ever end up with a president Palin, then you will know you have hit Absolute Rock Bottom, the Palins even manage to make the Clampett family look High Hat :)

  • HeadingOut

    Before you say or do anything else, read this: http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net

  • Michael

    Peak Oil is a total farce! There is more oil found now in the US, enough to last more than 500 years at todays consumption rate. Peak oil is created by not drilling in West Slope, Gulf, Alaska, California, Flordia and the mid west oil finds. Wake up fools!

    If you played a game like Riskw with your kids the way our governement play the game of life, you would be out of the game in no time.

    Remember, China, Russia and all of the South American countries are drilling in the Gulf,,,, how stupid is that?

  • Goin’ Postal

    And it is all happening because we have revived the Old Moloch State.

  • Gary

    I am so glad many more people are seeing the wisdom of simply taxing the rich and spreading the wealth. I do not consider taxing the rich as stealing as they have been stealing from working people by not giving productivity increases for years. Look at how high CEO pay has gotten

    Its not stealing if you are simply advocating taking back something that really belongs to you and that was actually stolen from you.

    To the people who understand this, no explanation is needed, and for those that do not understand this no explanation is possible.

  • Kevin

    Feminism has wrecked U.S.. I work at a high school and see it everyday. The boys act like girls (no matter how strong they are) and many girls are excelling at everything, except the self-preservation of the U.S.. Most of the boys are labeled as having mental illness (when in fact they are simply feminized). We are now an emotionally run country, so there is no hope….

  • Neth

    Gary, you moron! The “rich” according to the Communist system is $200,000 and up. I worked hard my whole life to achieve this level and don’t consider myself responsible for any problems in your liberal mind!!!

  • JJ Walker


  • CanadaDude

    America the Beautiful. Carlin’s version

    “O beautiful for smoggy skies
    insecticide-ed grain
    where garbage mountains begin to rise
    above the asphalt plain
    America America, man sheds his waste on thee
    and hides the pines with billboard signs
    from sea to oily sea.”

    George Carlin

  • Junebug

    About 3 months ago, I started to pay attention to what was really happening in this country…only takes a moment to see, that this economy is dying. This country is being systematically drained of its’ assets…the Chinese government, is now buying our coal reserves, with US currency, before it is no longer worth anything. This is the only way that they can recoup their loses. Now, they need to cull the heard…only the strong will survive…this includes dems. and repubs…rich and poor alike…rich feeding on rich..sad.

  • Gary

    Neth-I am glad you “worked so hard” to make 200,000 plus. Other people work just as hard or harder but due to the rigged system and a lot of bad luck they don’t “make it”. Regardless of how hard you think you worked I have no problem taxing some of your wealth away and spreading it around.

    Your a hard worker, I am sure you can “earn/steal” it back again at which time it can be taxed again.

  • ExAllentownian

    Having been born in Allentown, and then living in Detroit, I feel I’ve seen it all before… because I did. Yes, I was quite young and most of the decay happened after I left both places (in one case our family left after a tough teen shook me down to steal money from my parents and bring it to him next day – for his drugs – or he’d cut me up… on the way to FIRST GRADE!)

    So there are several aspects to the collapse: drugs, migration of blacks (with different mind sets in Race, Evolution & Behavior, by Rushton) and democracy/republic HUMANISM that assumes we have a right to make any laws – indirectly by voting for guys we mostly hear about via MEDIA owned/managed by very few (often part of same tribal gang) so that the real rulers of go’vt in a democracy are not the folks you think – said Edward Bernays in his 1928 book PROPAGANDA to explain why his public relations is crucial!

    The gang of Controllers (well explosed in this study of survival power strategies by Kevin MacDonald, “The Culture of Critique”) has put into effect strategies to change our money system (from gold/slver in YOUR hand, to paper or electronic credit by the gang and loaned at interest that overall cannot be repaid!) It hates whites and Christians, so turns churches into state-regulated (neutered) “chatities, and brings in diverse folks, especially ones eager to computer for jobs and take them. And it makes
    our folks dependant on the system (aka Babylon)
    and it builds other large nation economies like Mexico, China, India, etc by ending import tax.

    The Controllers exist in many nations (and set one up to escape to when run out of town!) and so don’t care about the victms they live near, since they form a separate (alien gang) network.


    What to do?

    Well, study what God told us (the founders!) In a nutshell, obey God and his laws. They empower us.. US the CALLED FOLKS. The Bible is to Adam, then to specific subgroups down through Israel, not to be confused with “Jews” a later word and group Jesus rejected by lineage (John 10:23+)
    just as he told us he did NOT ABOLISH ANY OF THE GODLAW & PROPHECY (Mat 5:17-19). Keep it to prosper (James 1:25) OR get destroyed (Deut 28).

    Such decay is perdicted for “last days” (before return of Jesus, to end other regimes as shown in I Cor 15:24-25). Just before this, we’re told to GET OUT OF (manlaw) BABYLON (Rev 18:1-19:3, followed by return of our Warrior King in 19:11-21). So… WE MUST REPUDIATE THAT SYSTEM AND GET OURSELVES OUT OF IT’s POWER ZONES. And form communities with CALLED Christians living by Bible Law. (Such as using “money” = keceph = silver. Repudiating secular courts and running our own! I Cor 6:1-7. Etc.)

    Decay of police forces could be beneficial. We need to form our own linked (via our own radio) assistance teams, to help in emergencies… INSTEAD OF STATE FUNCTIONARIES WHOSE FIRST JOB IS PROTECTING THAT STATE REGIME.

  • ExAllentownian

    PEAK OIL (and GLOBAL WARMING) ARE FARCES BY & FOR CONTROLLERS. (eg Maurice Strong who made money in energy corporations and sees more profits in taxing that via need for “carbon credits” that pay for NOT burning carbon, such as surpervising a group of amazon natives to not cut trees! He left Canada for China!)

    About Global Warming farce, see how the sun crontrol temperature cycles that then cause CO2 to degas from deep sea after centuries, in the video with an MIT speaker (The Great Global Warming Swindle, approximate title) at


    As a geoscientist (who had worked on the early atmosphere and weathering, then energy matters) I think we must look at petroleum output from SEVERAL VASTLY DIFFERENT SOURCES as several curves superimposed. Conventional oil has one curve and it peaked. But offshore oil started much later and still expands. The same with Arctic drilling: it mostly started recently.
    And oil sands really only got going recently in Alberta, while Venezuela has hardly started on its vast block! Oil shales have lots of oil but that research hit a wall after prices fell 1990 and my expertise in that was worth nickels!

    Oil can be made from coal, a resource vastly underrated, but massivly abundant in US, Canada, Australia, parts of Europe, etc.
    The “global warming” propaganda is largely to kill that sources as they want to humble us NOW and not wait 500 years for coal to run out!!

    Oil & alcohols can be produced from other plant materials. If prices go up, it is viable too, and CAN BE DONE ON THE FARM! But they seek to kill that by making it all flow to corporate petrol as an additive… for “green” reasons and paper cash!

    I think it is absolutely necessary to leave the top 40 or so major urban sprawls of N America, especially ones with many black & aliens, as folks thersd totally depend on the state-money- system (aka Babylon) to be turned off by us!

    Get out! For communities with other similar folks. Own your own water, electric source, heat system and fuel, or collaborate only with like-minded folks to build this for more folks.

    (And when planned chaos comes, prpare to be treated like Branch Davidians in Waco, TX.)

    We need to link our communities. Use barter & silver trade. Have our own “911” system etc.

    Meanwhile try to end importation of goods from China. (At some point they will cut it off.)

    Basically, “pioneer” our own separated groups and places to live, our OWN INDUSTRIES on small scale. For example: many will live rurally and could use steam cars, burning wood scrap, coal. So there is an industry (not facing China’s car competition at this time!) In Latvia when they fought Russian tanks, their oil and stuff was cut off. People used such vehicles, fixed lawn mower motors to carts. Even horse drawn sleighs!
    They burned all sorts of stuff to keep warm too. And they armed themselves for larger war.
    So think in many dimensions on many problems and solutions in our network of communities.

    Take a map showing OUR population densities. Cut out around the largest 40cities. What you have left is our usable “nation” for such new communities. Try to draw links from clmpsto clumps, as out new mapland, for pioneering and new industries… outside the old $ economy. We
    need ways to link the clumps without using any road controlled by the enemy. Think on that. (I
    have one solution set. Others may exist.)

  • Brazilmovie

    It sounds a bit like the weird futurist film of a decade ago called BRAZIL (not on that real nation). At least the film mocked the scumbags.
    Let’s do more of that… in their faces!

  • Chris

    400,000 sex offenders on the registry. (Now 700,000, btw), but you miss the point, wholly. The point is that we have a quasi-police state law that has big bro registering free citizens like livestock, and assigning to them terms that have always been reserved for sub-human beings, like “Predator”. All of this is conditioning your minds to believing the problem is the immoral people, and not the fact that we are accepting, inch-by-inch, the notion that government can and must protect us from ourselves, by monitoring, reporting, imprisoning, and fining us into submission. Next on the list of beneficial registries: arsonist, people suffering from Alzheimers, domestic abusers, animal abusers, and you. (If you think big bro registries are a good thing, maybe I want to keep an eye on you, anyway).

  • sharonsj

    We’ve been falling apart for a while, but most people didn’t notice. Now that the shit has hit the fan, what is happening? Just read the comments section of any newspaper or blog. People are both stupid and desperate. They blame everything from feminized boys to the Rothschilds–and they make sure to blame the victims. It’s the fault of the poor, the old, the sick, etc.

    It’s the fault of the oligarchs and our corrupt politicians. And it’s the fault of the people who don’t understand the connection between state and federal governments. Those federal tax breaks for the rich and the corporations translate into the states going broke.

    Unless we have an overhaul of how Congress is funded, we will continue to sell ourselves to the highest bidder.

  • Uncle B

    China prepares for the oil crunch with thirty new reactors this year! China also has nuclear/electric powered, electric bullet train networks and the associated infrastructures, up and running and producing goods on sustainable rice and veggies diets, goods for the world’s markets at prices much below that of American goods! These bullet train units are being rapidly duplicated all over Asia! America spends everything on war? Why? What did we get back from trouncing Iraq? Oil? Not at my neighborhood pumps – it actually went up!

  • Great List!
    It would make a lot more sense if you would report seriously on the double bookkeeping $CAM operating since 1946 under the name Comprehensive Annual Financial Report (CAFR), which has “hidden” tens of TRILLIONS of DOLLAR$ in plain sight. See http://www.CAFR1.com and interview Walter Burien. Good Luck!
    /s/ Les Ego

  • A Pod

    Great article & interesting discussion. I’m a volunteer firefighter (almost retired)- 70% of dept.s are now volunteer… need to re-think social services & their bureaucracies too. There are alternatives… Detroit dept.s have finally figured out they should let them burn to the ground vs. having 1/8 1/3 burnt… make gardens instead. The local govt.s have failed in many of these places & it is now really wild west anarchy…Also, parents don’t know how & are usually mia… Home schooling is a lost art… watch “A raisin in the sun again”…
    I’m Rastamish… you figure it out & yes I’m a product of the little pink boxes outside of the formely beautiful ‘burbs of Cleveland & then amish country… since then, can’t really take off those travelin’ shoes… to travel is better than to arrive & the journey is fun… if you see the opportunity in everything… maybe we should all go down to Juarez & break a little bad… put your life where your mouth is & take it back… or just go down to east side of Youngstown…
    There’s hope in communication too. I like the communication revolution… always have. kid charlemagne is back & yes indeed Jesus has left Chicago… and he’s bound for New Orleans… you may find him / her hitchhikin’ some rainy twilight…

  • SaulRosenberg

    Some men just want to watch the world burn.

  • Rich


    YOU are the epitome of what is wrong with the world today.

    To the people who understand this, no explanation is needed, and for those that do not understand this no explanation is possible.

  • Constantine

    Gary is right and wrong. The rich have all the wealth and it needs to be taken away from them, or the rest of us will starve.

    HOWEVER. . .

    $200,000 is chump-change. If you are making $200,000 you ARE barely middle class. You’re not rich!

    The rich are the millionaires and BILLIONAIRES; the top 1% who are sitting on 95% of the wealth. Gleb Beck in one of his anti-socialist rants said, “I don’t want to share my pie. I want ALL of my pie.”

    Yeah, but Glen Beck is a multi-millionaire who made his money selling lies and hatred.

    People have it all wrong. Socialism isn’t paid for by the working class. It is a net benefit to everybody. The top 1%, used to pay 90% of their wealth in taxes! (Before Reagan). And they were STILL super-wealthy!

    Greed has killed America. But ignorance and gullibility are the forces which are preventing change.

    Oh yeah. We also need to get rid of the banks and start printing our OWN money rather than having the FED BORROW it at interest from the banking cartels who own the world. That’s not conspiracy. It’s truth.

    We need to simply stop paying debts on the government and national level. We need to grow our own food, and we need to tax the rich. And remember, NONE of you posting here are rich.

  • haha


    Gary sounds like a whiny bitch. Get over yourself and work.

    All you’ve done is blame other people for your own problems.

    DO the work it takes to be where you want to be like.

    Cause guess what, based on your stupid liberal mindset, where god-forbid, no one should have more than someone else. We should tax 90% of your income and give it to those below you, because gosh-darn-it, it just isn’t fair.

    You can sit on your ass and complain or you can do something about it. You can be the person complaining about the rules, or the person figuring out how to use the to their advantage.

    Grow up and get a job you whiny bastard.

  • AJ

    All this whining about the rich is so short-sighted. Even if in a perfect world you just redistributed the wealth of the top 1% or even 5%, what does that really do for people? They’re still unemployed and undereducated. Believe it or not, there’s a chunk of the population who have a fairly easy time finding employment, even now–those with specific intellectual skills and education. And I’m not talking about six figure liberal arts degrees, or two year community college stints. The manufacturing jobs are never coming back. There’s no incentive for that, it’s over. The industrial revolution put tons of people out of work, and here we are again, this IS the transition. If we’re going to subsidize anything, it shouldn’t be banks, it should be higher education for individuals, that’s the only way to keep up as the economy converts to intellectual capital.

  • Guido

    Read America’s Man on Horseback. What you’re seeing is the nation coming to the end of its first 250+/- year cycle of birth, maturity, weakness, and possible death or rebirth. If we’re lucky, we’ll be able to re-energize ourselves, reform, and continue for another 250 years. Otherwise, we become a backwater dump like Italy, fit only for tourism…
    Also, look up the 4th Turning, which also posits the idea we’re on the cusp of a massive upheaval/renewal. We might be the progenitors of a new “Greatest Generation” who will take a note from our dismal situation and revitalize the nation with big projects at home and abroad.
    This is no conspiracy, nations grow, get successful, then decadent and weak, and burn out just like people. The difference is they can start over, i.e. China and Japan in the last 100+ years.

  • Marx


    stop using the stupid religion shit, that’s opne of the reason it’s going bad over there.

    why can’t you act like normal people.
    our presidents here also have wife and kids, we don’t know more than their names.
    yeah, it’s abivious we know something about the french president’s wife, but otherwise, i don’t know nothing about the wife of the dutch prime minister or spanisch president.
    that’s not of our biznis.

    you focus to much on outside.

    stop using religion as a cover, but face the world.
    Religion should be ilegal.

    you have been spending millions on wages of the 20.000 employee’s in the pentagon alone a month.
    for what?
    virtual security or Communism?

    (there is thousands of cars parked here, i bet anything they all earn above avarage)

    Stop acting like a World police officer.
    you don’t even have you own householt in orden.

    Show Biznis, why did Obama need to get a dog?

    oprah winfrey became billionaire, because you care about her dresses & outfits.
    how serious nation are you guys?

  • Vlad

    It’s all just a communist conspiracy. America is turning into North Corea, just like they want.

    If you believe above two sentences you need to up your meds. Wake up and smell the rotting corpse of your empire.

  • mario

    I really do not have any sympathy to those states who have been spending like drunken sailors. States like illinois where I live is a joke. Majority of its budget is going to the bloated public unions and thier benefits not to mention the underfunded pensions that the taxpayers have to back stop.You have firefighters, teachers, cops…retiring at 50 or 52 and collecting 80% of their (highest) salary for the rest of thier lives. These states have the highest taxes and they keep rising because nobody wants to cut the budget or at least survive on last year’s budget. Property values have plummted but property taxres are going up. In places like Chicago home owners saw their taxes go up 30% or more in one year. People are fedup and many are looking to get the hell out which means another Detroit is now the horizon.

  • nick

    haha i live in the Allentown billy joel sang about, technically he was talking about our neighboring city of Bethlehem which was the world leader in the production of steel at one point with Bethlehem Steel, but many people from Allentown commuted to Bethlehem daily to work there, but the factory shut down so many years ago that it is now essentially a landmark for all who live in the area, it can be seen from pretty much anywhere in Bethlehem and it is truly remarkable in every aspect. plus part of Transformers 3 was shot there, the beginning scene. GO AUTOBOTS!

  • LaTeeDa

    Well… I guess, based on what I’ve read here, this has been a long time coming. I’m only twenty years old and I have to say that the stupidity in America is quite alarming. I’m no politician and I honest-to-goodness haven’t been around long enough to keep up with everything our government has done. I really wish that there was an easy solution to this though.

    Greed is definitely America’s downfall. We all want what we don’t have and the ones that have everything only seem to want more. If there was a way to go back to bartering and taking money completely out of the equation, I’d say let’s do it. But unfortunately we are a nation that loves to stick our nose in everyone’s business, so the fact that we DO interact with other nations would make the bartering system impossible… Damn, America, why can’t you mind your own business!?

    I think pulling our troops out of bases in some areas would be a good idea. OUR nation should be TOP PRIORITY right now. And I have NEVER agreed with invading Iraq. I fear that if we pull out now though that they would entirely collapse. (However, I haven’t really watched the news too much lately, I’ve been too busy working my ass off for minimum wage trying to make end’s meat.) I hate to see people in poverty and pain, but we can’t fix everything.

    Time to bring some of the troops home at least… Just to cut down on outside spending.

    And BY THE WAY. I am enlisted in the Air Force Delayed Enlistment Program. I scored almost perfect on my ASVAB and qualified for several jobs. I really just wanted to get something secure, because I know our country is falling apart. Well, the job I want isn’t available to me or anyone else. My recruiter called and told me that they are only offering Military Police jobs and Mechanic jobs (Planes and Missiles, etc.) I refused to take either, since I am a VERY small woman, and now I am being discharged because I “over-qualify” and “refuse to settle.”
    excuse me, but WTF?

    I’m done ranting now, and I hope everyone has a Merry Christmas. Enjoy the holiday season while we can still afford it. :]

  • joseph

    lets get things clear camden new jersey isnt a city it is 9 square miles with about 78,000 people it is a very very very small area and crime in many parts of this tiny place is safe no murders on the subway no murders or graffiti in downtown can walk downtown i lived there so i know where the bad places are in camden most people are good hard working

  • westcoastdiva

    The housing meltdown is connected to the breakdown of local government.
    Because the system was setup by MERS to steal money from the counties, by bypassing recording each and every real estate sale, by not paying the county taxes on any property, not paying the millage for schools, not paying for the services protecting foreclosed properties and allowing the foreclosed homes to go to hell and not maintaining them forcing the cities and counties to have to demolish whole neighborhoods of neglected homes.
    And all this was done on purpose, done to destroy America from the inside out.
    Done and committed by the banks by forcing illegal evictions on homeowners, then selling the homes to investors who got scammed again by the bankers. They bought property the banks didn’t own, didn’t keep up and weren’t worth half of what they claimed the homes were worth.
    Blame it all on the bankers.

  • Darkillas

    Interesting development. It is nice to see the boomerang coming back. About 20 years ago my father said that Americas “wealth” is fictive. Not covered by Gold as it used to be. Now I can see that he was right. The whole financial crisis was just a big state reconciliation of finances. Big empty bubble just popped.
    USA was benefiting from the whole world, now it`s time to pay.
    I still can`t understand how it is possible that products that I want to buy are made in China, but if I order them from US they are still 50-30% cheaper than in Europe (Of course UK – US-butt licker gets a better deal than rest of EU). This doze not make any sense.
    You guys still earn more money than we in EU do and things are less expensive for you. What the f***.
    And also picture this: The Ideology of Muslim terrorism could be knowing all the problems that you guys are talking about here in advance? Could that be the source of hate towards “American Dream”, Lifestile, Ideology morale understanding? Because as we seen during financial crisis, with US, all of us are going down (except China I guess. Won`t forget to mention: a communist state :-).

    I still think the human race is selfish, stupid, ignorant and arrogant cancer of this planet. I hope it is all wiped out and substituted by more intelligent beings that finally understand that ALL of them should work TOGETHER to GROW as a race occupying this planet. “Stupid” ants worked it out.
    Because humans have it coded in their brains to fu** things up. To get more. To get better than anyone else. To have the power. To have the control. All wrong from the beginning. A fresh start is needed.

  • melissa

    In Canada (Québec), where I live, bankers are recently worried about the second phase of this crisis. If too much european country and also United state falling down, Canada don’t resist. Our first ‘customer’ for canadian exportations is the United states…

    sorry for my poor english. I hope you understand what I say!^^

  • MAx H. Room

    Biotech craze to fill that economic and angsty void. Pill your troubles, c’mon, get za P. Designer genes?

  • mawktherussian

    Yet, I’m still grateful to be living here. If one were to travel abroad, he/she could see the poverty and the incomprehensible hopelessness of the people in countries like China, and Russia, and India and pretty much all of Africa, one would be only grateful to live here in the States. The US is an imperial super-power with an inexhaustible appetite for more power and resources, and I hate the corporation-controlled foreign policy we have, but no matter; I still love this place and if anybody has anything to complain about they should first go see some of the rest of the world. Much of eastern Europe is in turmoil and even Ireland, Portugal and Greece are going through economic meltdowns. So what the hell is all this bitching about?

  • Hans

    Taxing the rich more is not the answer. We need the jobs that were exported to China and other countries back in the U.S.

    A country can’t survive if it doesn’t have a manufacturing base. Screw the WTO and tax the imports through the nose so we force companies toi manufacture here again.

    And for reprisals from other countries, such as raising their import taxes, let them do it. We have hardly any exports left to begin with. At least everybody will have a decent apying job again.

  • Gordon Wirth

    Capitalism has not patriots. If we can make it cheaper in China, Mexico or India that is the bottom line for corporations. There is no more pride in Made in America, and all these free trade agreements like NAFTA have assisted this outflow of jobs.
    Wirth, G

  • Wow, I’m really amazed at the blindness of this country. Some hinted at the real problem but didn’t quite get it.

    As the country was ruined during the first prohibition, so it is again! There are two industries booming…illegal drugs and the private prison industry. Are country spends more money on prisons than our schools. No wonder there’s no money left for anything else. Along with that, we help save the rich and it’s sucking off the poor.

    End the Drug War, release the prisoners. Tax and regulate like the drugs that are legal and kill. Legalize Hemp…save the farmer, burn biofuel from it, create mass industrial hemp jobs. Save the environment and the trees, make biodegradable plastics, no fossil fuels needed, use hemp for paper, cheaper healthier medicine, I could on!

    The point? The same idiot greedy people who keep drilling the oil and stealing our money and sending us to wars in other lands are the same people perpetuating our American made Drug War.

    I fear for us all if those of you out there that blame other things can’t see the truth staring you in face!

    A retired Detroit cop once told me what killed the Motor City was the illegal cocaine and crack that was dropped in the ghetto. It enabled the gangs to grow and arm themselves and get rich. Look to the South, folks. The Drug War is making the cartels rich and killing 1000’s.

    WAKE UP!

  • Bwana Ndegi

    The Soviet bloc imploded a few years ago when its failing economy collapsed. This was bound to happen as Marxism worships the mediocre and there was no place in that society for excellence and real talent. Those systems ensured that all leaders of commerce or industry or government were equally mediocre. The USA and the West by blurring the borders between big business and government and making them one and the same has fallen into the “mediocre” trap of the old Soviet bloc. China in a practical realistic sense is economically far more capitalistic than the West is today with far more tolerance of excellence and talent and will therefore flourish at our expense. At the moment we lack the flexibility to change enough to save ourselves from inevitable implosion.

  • Darkillas

    @ Happy Hemptress: Could not agree more.

  • DrDazz

    You are ALL missing the point!!! You could tax the rich & evenly redistribute the wealth, but the rich would soon become rich again, & the poor would soon become poor again, because one class has Financial Intelligence & the other does not! Can you guess which is which? Its all about investing money to make financial returns, compared to pissing it up against the wall at the night clubs every weekend. Think about it!!!

  • It isn’t as if any rational person still believes the USA is a free country. Think about it. No-warrant wire taps, indefinite detention of citizens without charges, approval of rendition of prisoners and torture, stop and frisk without probable cause, search and seizure without a warrant, no-knock entry, confiscation and destruction of cameras that might have been used to film police acting illegally, police brutality, police shootings that go without investigation, managed news, and the civil-rights destroying “Patriot” Act.

    Acts of police behaving illegally, with shootings, Tasers, and unwarranted violence now appear almost daily. Rarely are these offenses punished. Most often “an investigation” is claimed, but soon forgotten.


In addition, the USA, with 5% of the world population, has 25% of all of the prisoners in the world. That means the USA has the most people in prison of any nation in history. Even by percentage of residents incarcerated, not just sheer numbers. USA is # 1!

 Does any of that sound like a free country?

    As Dwight D. Eisenhower said about communism, “It’s like slicing sausage. First they out off a small slice. That isn’t worth fighting over. Then they take another small slice that isn’t worth fighting over. Then another and another. Finally, all you have left is the string and that isn’t worth fighting over, either.

  • richbpink

    America has the more of its citizens in Prison than any other country in the world in fact it has 25% of all the Prisoners in the world.