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15 Quotes About The Duck Dynasty Controversy That Every American Should See

Phil RobertsonWhat is being done to Phil Robertson shows just how far America has fallen.  The thought police are waging an all-out campaign to take down one of the biggest names in the United States, and if they are successful none of us will ever be safe again.  We are becoming a nation that is governed by bullying, intimidation and unwritten speech codes, and if you happen to say the “wrong thing” you could lose everything.  Liberal pundits are gleefully declaring that making statements such as Robertson made “should get you fired from most jobs“.  That means that they believe that unless you conform to their version of morality (or keep your mouth shut forever) you should lose your job.  So are you ready to lose your job for what you believe?  Because that is where we are heading.  In the future, if you do not conform to their politically correct Big Brother speech code, you will be unemployable and you and your entire family will be outcasts from society.  That is why the Duck Dynasty controversy is so important.  This is a “line in the sand” moment, and if the thought police are successful than those that refuse to abandon Biblical morality will soon be forced underground.  Do you really want to live in a country where a large percentage of the population can no longer express what they believe to be right and wrong?

According to a Pew Research survey that was conducted earlier this year, 45 percent of all Americans believe that homosexual actions are a “sin” and 45 percent of all Americans do not.  So this is an issue that the country is pretty evenly divided on.

A&E certainly has a right to fire anyone that they want.  And they certainly have a right to air whatever programming they wish.

In response, supporters of Phil Robertson and Duck Dynasty certainly have the right to stop watching A&E permanently.

But this controversy goes far beyond that.  It is being suggested that Phil Robertson should not be employable by anyone because of what his personal religious convictions are.  Since this uproar began, we have heard over and over about how anyone who thinks this way should be permanently banned from television.  The vitriol directed toward Phil Robertson has been overwhelming.

And of course there is a purpose for this.  The truth is that they are trying to make an example out of him in order to chill the free speech of all the rest of us.  They want to intimidate all of us into either changing our beliefs or shutting up.

Is this really what America has degenerated into?

Somewhere along the way, our nation has chosen to believe some very serious lies.  First of all, disagreement is not the same thing as hate.  If I disagree with what someone else is doing, that does not mean that I “fear” or “hate” them.

Secondly, to love someone does not mean that you have to approve of everything that they do.  In fact, I can love someone else very much and still disapprove of what they are doing.  Most parents know exactly what I am talking about.

And that is exactly the case with Phil Robertson of Duck Dynasty.  He is not a “homophobe” and he certainly does not hate the gay community.  Phil just believes that sexual morality is governed by the Bible, and that is how he chooses to live his life.  Sadly, it has become extremely unacceptable to the power elite in this country for a high profile television star to do that.

This is a very important moment in American history.  The way that the nation responds to this controversy is going to heavily influence the direction that we are going to go next.  Below are 15 quotes about the Duck Dynasty controversy that every American should see.  Included are quotes from Americans that are both gay and straight, liberal and conservative, non-religious and Christian.  All throughout society, Americans are rising up and objecting to the use of bullying, intimidation and unwritten speech codes to force people to conform to a specific agenda…

#1 Robert Lloyd writing for the Los Angeles Times: “Though I inhabit a different reality from Robertson — my authorities are secular and scientific, not Biblical and faith-based — I assuredly don’t believe his remarks, which were not even made on television, disqualify him from appearing on television. Except as network broadcasters are responsible to the public that owns the airwaves, ideological purity tests have no place in that medium or any other.”

#2 Lesbian author Tammy Bruce: “What’s especially troubling for minority communities in this country, the civil rights movements, especially the gay civil rights movement, was about asking for people and demanding the right for us to be able to live our lives as we see fit without being punished for being different. It’s ironic also that one of the big campaigns by the gay community is about ending bullying. If this is not a sign of the ultimate of bullying I don’t know what is”

#3 Joseph Mattera: “Consequently, we can curse the name of Jesus Christ all we want and make fun of the Bible on television and depict evangelicals on television shows as imbeciles with impunity—but try to say anything deemed derogatory (including the quotation of Scripture) related to a particular kind of human behavior this society celebrates and you will lose your job and reputation, because it violates their blasphemy laws.”

#4 Lesbian Camille Paglia, a professor at the University of the Arts in Philadelphia, during a radio interview with Laura Ingraham: “In a democratic country, people have the right to be homophobic as well as they have the right to support homosexuality – as I one hundred percent do. If people are basing their views against gays on the Bible, again, they have a right of religious freedom there”

#5 Wayne Allyn Root: “The firing of Phil Robertson, star of “Duck Dynasty” is a free speech issue. It’s symbolic of the biased, one-sided way the media and leftist elites treat free speech. People have every right to express opinions considered “progressive” or “politically correct” nowadays. But the same rules don’t apply to salt-of-the-earth, apple-pie, middle Americans who believe in God, country, guns, and yes, the Bible.”

#6 Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal: “I remember when TV networks believed in the First Amendment. It is a messed up situation when Miley Cyrus gets a laugh, and Phil Robertson gets suspended.”

#7 Andrew Sullivan: “Robertson is a character in a reality show. He’s not a spokesman for A&E any more than some soul-sucking social x-ray from the Real Housewives series is a spokeswoman for Bravo. Is he being fired for being out of character? Nah. He’s being fired for staying in character – a character A&E have nurtured and promoted and benefited from. Turning around and demanding a Duck Dynasty star suddenly become the equivalent of a Rachel Maddow guest is preposterous and unfair.”

#8 Mat Staver, founder and chairman of Liberty Counsel: “Duck Dynasty’s unashamed displays of faith and traditional values are a breath of fresh air in this Miley Cyrus culture, where flagrant displays of sexuality permeate entertainment. In fact, I believe it is the show’s strong family values that make the reality comedy the most-watched nonfiction cable telecast in history.”

#9 U.S. Senator Ted Cruz: “If you believe in free speech or religious liberty, you should be deeply dismayed over the treatment of Phil Robertson. Phil expressed his personal views and his own religious faith; for that, he was suspended from his job. In a free society, anyone is free to disagree with him–but the mainstream media should not behave as the thought police censoring the views with which they disagree.”

#10 Larry Alex Taunton writing for The Atlantic: “Missing in the controversy over A&E’s handling of its golden goose—or duck, rather—is the fact that the real conflict here is not between Robertson and A&E; it is between gay activists and a solid majority of Christians who believe homosexual acts are wrong. Again, Robertson’s views are hardly anomalous. Christians may disagree on the details, but the Bible strongly condemns homosexuality in both the Old and New Testaments; the marriage model of one man and one woman is first given by God in Genesis 2 and reiterated by Jesus in Matthew 19; and in Romans 1 the Apostle Paul denounces homosexuality as a hallmark of a degenerate culture. The point here isn’t that you have to believe any of this, but many Christians do believe it and feel morally bound to believe it.”

#11 Ray Gano: “I point all this out because if the powers that be are willing to do this to TV’s top rated show and the show’s star, with a willingness to put millions upon millions of dollars at stake, then they have absolutely no problem doing it to us, the plain bible believing Christian.

People need to wake up and smell the coffee.

This is EXACTLY what the Nazi’s did in Germany. They vilified, demonized, demoralized the Jew. They attacked their businesses and wrote laws targeted against them.

The powers that be are doing the exact same thing today to bible believing Christians.

But when are people going to wake up to that fact and start paying attention to the writing on the wall?”

#12 Steve Tobak: “The Duck Dynasty controversy is the result of the growing power of self-serving minority and special-interest activists that ruthlessly bully and extort those who say or do something they don’t agree with. They become more powerful and emboldened every time their efforts pay off. The way to stop them is to never give in to their threats and demands. Never.

You may not agree with the Duck Dynasty folks, but that’s not the point. The point is you could be next.”

#13 Cracker Barrel on the decision to bring Duck Dynasty merchandise back into their stores: “You told us we made a mistake. And, you weren’t shy about it. You wrote, you called and you took to social media to express your thoughts and feelings. You flat out told us we were wrong. Today, we are putting all our Duck Dynasty products back in our stores. And, we apologize for offending you.”

#14 Dr. Michael Brown: “This censorship and bullying will only get worse unless we make a determination to stand for what is right and speak the truth in love, regardless of cost or consequence, recognizing that our strategy of appeasement (which has often been a cover-up for our spinelessness and fear of man) has failed miserably.”

#15 Phil Robertson: “I would never treat anyone with disrespect just because they are different from me. We are all created by the Almighty and like Him, I love all of humanity. We would all be better off if we loved God and loved each other.”

So what do you think of the Duck Dynasty controversy?

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  • Zechariah

    As a conservative evangelical, I wholeheartedly support Phil’s right of free speech and his Biblically-based opinion. However, I can’t help but think this whole episode has been engineered to push product during a less than OK Christmas season. Yes, sadly, the reason for the season is green. And this “controversy” is very green. Hence, I feel the conservative portion of the American public (I being one) is being played like a fiddle by A&E, Walmart, and the like.

    • Zechariah

      As a postscript, Phil has now been taken back into the A&E family fold along with the rest of the Ducks. Christmas is over and there is no need for any further controversy since the “season” has greened up in fine fashion. Meanwhile, back at this ranch, there are many on this site who may have just become NSA persons of interest. Not sure how many agents were monitoring this little discussion thread, but I suspect at least two (operating under false personas) considering the frequency of baiting comments.

      • Gay Veteran

        don’t tease us Zechariah, name the 2

        • Zechariah

          I finally know what you fear…

          • Gay Veteran

            oh, another mind reader

          • Zechariah

            After well over 100 posts on this little thread, I think one can start to develop a profile. You certainly haven’t been that careful in these shark-infested electronic waters considering the surveillance society we live in.

  • K

    A&E is a very strange company, you see they have done this nonsense before. Duane Chapman in a private conversation, used a word that can indeed be considered hateful, in one context. And yet can be considered common in another context. So yes they suspended Dog the bounty hunter. At that time, it was one of their top shows. Now they do it again, with a much more popular show. Political agenda, before profits, or even negative attention, is better than no attention. Take your pick. In both cases the network claimed they had committed hate speech..

    • Ricky Ross

      They are applying the Rules For Radicals! Obama, Hilliary and several other politicians have lauded Saul Alinsky in their speeches. Hilliary wrote her college Thesis on Alinsky’s work. He wrote the book titled “Rules For Radicals”. In the book, there are 13 rules for radicals to use to achieve their goals.
      This charade of DISTRACTION with Duck Dynasty is no different then the rest of the made for TV distractions like George Zimmerman, Paula Dean,
      Casey Anthony, Jon Benoit Ramsey, OJ Simpson, etc, etc, etc…

      Rule #13) “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”

      • Gay Veteran

        same post 3 times.
        sorry, but it doesn’t get better with repetition

        • hendrix

          And your hole gets bigger with each repetition of your vile acts.

          • Gay Veteran

            too bad you aren’t getting smarter with each posting

  • tray2000

    what did the man said that was homophobic,..from what i read he said that he worked in the cotton fields of the south shoulder, to shoulder with black people,..and they where hard working ,..and god fearing

    • Ricky Ross

      They are applying the Rules For Radicals! Obama, Hilliary and several other politicians have lauded Saul Alinsky in their speeches. Hilliary wrote her college Thesis on Alinsky’s work. He wrote the book titled “Rules For Radicals”. In the book, there are 13 rules for radicals to use to achieve their goals.
      This charade of DISTRACTION with Duck Dynasty is no different then the rest of the made for TV distractions like George Zimmerman, Paula Dean,
      Casey Anthony Jon Benoit Ramsey, OJ Simpson, etc, etc, etc…

      Rule #13) “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”

    • Gay Veteran

      Why is Phil Robertson a dumba**?
      I guess he doesn’t realize that under Jim Crow you could be lynched for criticizing “these doggone white people”.

  • Rodster

    There is nothing Phil said that is wrong. It’s not only based on the Bible but are also part of our genetic makeup.

    • Kim

      His choice of words was wrong. He didn’t need to be vulgar.

      • texascitizen

        Vulgar? His comments were accurate and without malice. Perhaps the subject is what is vulgar.

        • Kim

          I agree they were made without malice. I agree they were accurate. But really did he have to make reference to body parts? That’s where I left him. We all know what homosexual acts are. We don’t need a lesson in these vulgar acts, do we?

          • texascitizen

            Yes, call it what it is. If that is offensive it should be.

          • reality check

            You have been brainwashed into seeing sin as something which can be politely discussed around the dinner table with small children present. Homosexuality is a vulgar and sinful life choice. Calling it what it is rather than the way they wish to portray it is not vulgar….It is truth. Wake up!

          • Gay Veteran

            “reality check” needs a reality check

          • hendrix

            You’re probably about due for a diaper check.. That loose hole of yours leaks.

          • Gay Veteran

            awwww, poor troll all frustrated

          • Kim

            No I’m not brainwashed. I get it. But if God sees fit to allow humans, for now, free will to perform these acts of sin, who am I, or who is ANYONE, to stand in for him. The bible is clear on the sin of homosexual acts. Phil was WRONG in decrying homosexual acts the way he did. Especially being in show business. He isn’t going to change anyone’s mind. We get it.

          • Gay Veteran

            guess the Bible was “clear” on slavery too

          • Gay Veteran

            :…Homosexuality is a vulgar and sinful life choice….”

            are you actually that pig ignorant? really, are you?

          • Henry Bellows

            Personally, i didn’t think he went far enough. I believe one big reason all this became acceptable in the first place was that we stopped “calling a spade a spade”. “Gay” doesn’t sound so great when you put it in plain English does it?

          • Gay Veteran

            why don’t you ask any one under 30?

          • Jody

            Don’t need vulgarity? Watch a ‘gay parade’. You’ll see enough vulgarity to last a lifetime.

          • Gay Veteran

            uh, you ever seen you hets at Mardi Gras?

        • Kim

          I agree his words were without malice and I also agree his word were accurate. He could have conveyed the same message without the graphic body parts references. It was offensive. We aren’t stupid. We know what homosexual acts are.

      • Rodster

        What vulgar speech? The words he chose were medical terms to identify the human anatomy. I’ve heard worse from our elected officials in Wash and last I checked they’re still in office.

      • William Boyd Spencer

        He actually used no words that you would not hear in a biology text or a doctors office. Vulgar would have been using the slang words often used in place of the technical words he used.

  • Uh-Huh

    PHIL ROBERTSON FOR PRESIDENT IN 2016!!!

    • Ricky Ross

      It never fails…as soon as someone says something that we can identify with, someone says “**** for POTUS”…

      Isn’t that how we got in this mess? Someone saying what we wanted to hear? Just because the man says something that you like, does not mean he is qualified to run the country!

      With that said, I agree with Phil and I identify with him whole heartily, but at the same time I do not know any of his positions on foreign policy, economic policy, and any other number of areas that one needs to have knowledge of and be able to articulate his position and have credentials to back up the words that he speaks.

  • Christine

    This reminds me of an allegorical account of capturing wild horses. It’s a simple, unforced process that’s ‘hidden in plain sight’. Out in the fields where the horses graze, a single long strip of fencing is erected. Initially the animals are afraid, but after awhile, they grow accustomed to the structure. When they’re no longer fearful, a second strip of fencing is built, wide apart from, but parallel to the first. The horses react nervously to the additional intrusion, but are soon moving fearlessly around the expanding structure. Next, a connecting and perpendicular strip of fencing is built, at one end of the existing parallel strips, forming three sides of a square. By this time the horses are no longer investigating the additional piece of fencing; they simply gather comfortably (a.k.a. complacently) inside of the connected structure, where grazing grasses are plentiful. The final step–building the last strip of fencing to close the horses in–is implemented without any resistance at all.
    Hmm, what’s the parallel? Are we reacting similarly to a deliberate attempt at fencing in our freedom of speech and taking captive our voices which rightfully express deeply held beliefs and values?

    • Ricky Ross

      They are applying the Rules For Radicals! Obama, Hilliary and several other politicians have lauded Saul Alinsky in their speeches. Hilliary wrote her college Thesis on Alinsky’s work. He wrote the book titled “Rules For Radicals”. In the book, there are 13 rules for radicals to use to achieve their goals.
      This charade of DISTRACTION with Duck Dynasty is no different then the rest of the made for TV distractions like George Zimmerman, Paula Dean,
      Casey Anthony Jon Benoit Ramsey, OJ Simpson, etc, etc, etc..

      Rule #13) “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”

  • Farmbeet

    Phil Robertson has said in interviews previous to this controversy that “The United States of America needs a big dose of manhood.” And now he has exemplified the highest ideals of manhood by fearlessly speaking truth to power. While most modern Christian men—especially those in positions of influence—keep their opinions to themselves for fear of retribution, Robertson has refused to conform. He is a free man, living and thinking and speaking as free men should.

    • Kim

      I disagree that being a man include abusive speech.

      • Guest

        How was his speech abusive? Sodomy is against nature. And God condemns it in both the Old and New Testaments.

        • Kim

          Um, apparently u did not read his exact words.

          • Syrin

            Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning made them male and female, and said, “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh”? So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate (Matthew 19:4-6).

          • Rodster

            That’s just too simple for the argument Syrin. :)

          • Phillip Donkin

            Hey Syrin are you old enough to be contributing to this pathetic, cyclical and tired old myth, based argument? I want to see your guardians approval!

          • Ronsonol

            When your behind rots off from the activities that you engage with other men then you will know that these “myths” were not myths.

          • Gay Veteran

            oh look, we have a medical doctor posting

          • Guest

            Kim,

            I read the quote from the GQ article, if that’s what you’re referring to. Yes, he was blunt, but I don’t consider what he said “abusive.”

          • Kim

            I do. It was uncalled for. He did not choose his words well.

          • Phillip Donkin

            Being a moronic parrot is not included!

        • Gay Veteran

          against nature yet nature has so many examples of it

          logic FAIL

          • Guest

            Gay Veteran,

            It’s true that animals exhibit homosexual behavior. But human beings are NOT animals. Man was created in the image of God. Animals were not. God clearly condemns homosexuality in the Bible. But you don’t believe any of that, so it is a waste of time for me to argue with you any further.

          • Gay Veteran

            even our most closest genetic relatives exhibit homosexual behavior.
            Think for yourself. Observe what natures teaches.

          • Kim

            Doesn’t matter. This world is imperfect. There is nothing designed by nature (God) to facilitate a homosexual act. Period,

          • William Boyd Spencer

            Some animals eat their children, should we do that as well? We are not animals!

          • Zechariah

            No, we just abort ours (50 million to date) by creating bloody piles of flesh from tiny living beings to whom God gave the precious spark of life. I agree; we are not animals. We are something far worse who kill for pleasure and mere economic convenience.

          • Gay Veteran

            so Zechariah, how many unwanted babies have you adopted?

          • hendrix

            how many landfills have you filled up with your disease ridden dirty terds?

          • Gay Veteran

            oh my, potty mouthed troll

          • William Boyd Spencer

            I completely agree Homosexuality is not the only abominable practice that blights our society. The fact that planned parenthood and the homosexual community seek to sexualize our young and sell murder as birth control.

          • Gay Veteran

            oh lordy. have you seen the HETEROSEXUAL advertisements that seek to sexualize the young???

          • William Boyd Spencer

            Yea, and it all comes from the leftest amoral atheist cess pool who pride themselves on upholding infanticide, homosexuality and other abominations.

          • Gay Veteran

            sorry darling, but it’s capitalists that are using advertising to sell their products

          • Gay Veteran

            “I completely agree Homosexuality is not the only abominable practice that blights our society”, sniffs WBS, hanky in hand as he heads to the fainting couch

          • Gay Veteran

            more logic FAIL, cannibalism harm others.

          • William Boyd Spencer

            Your logic fails just because beasts practice something does not mean we should. In fact we are created in God’s image. We are created a little lower than the angels and a higher than the animals. We should respect ourselves enough not to denigrate ourselves with the abominable actions of beasts.

          • Phillip Donkin

            Hey WBS. You used the word “respect”. What would you know about it?

          • William Boyd Spencer

            Obviously more than you.

          • Gay Veteran

            And you know what? That is YOUR interpretation of the Bible. But then the Bible was used to justify slavery. So I am not impressed.

          • William Boyd Spencer

            Words have meanings. God gave us His word in the form of the written words. It takes proper exegesis to understand but the meaning of God’s word is not beyond us. One part of hermeneutics involves reading the interpretation of scripture throughout history. There is no one before the 20th century who interpreted the scripture to mean anything other than I have; homosexuality is a sin and humans are created in the image of God and are called to to a higher purpose.
            It is easy to see that nothing impresses you but disease spreaders who love to play in the sewer. It appears you love to shine your ignorance and put it up on display..

          • Gay Veteran

            yay, spencer gets the Pharisee of the day award

          • William Boyd Spencer

            Once again using big words you could never in a million years understand. The Pharisees got it wrong only in the fact that they did not accept the messiah. They were spoit on when it came to the law. So thank you for the compliment. Maybe learn something about hermeneutics before pretending to argue the bible. It would make you look less stupid.

          • Gay Veteran

            wow, expected a bible expert like you to know more than that.

            Matt 23:1-5 “Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to His disciples, saying: “The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. Therefore whatever they tell you to observe, that observe and do, but do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do. For they bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. But all their works they do to be seen by men.”

          • William Boyd Spencer

            The Pharisee’s knowledge of the law was impeccable. They only thing they got wrong in terms of understanding God’s word is that they rejected the Messiah which they could have easily gleaned from the law itself. These verses speak of hypocrisy that exists even today. You just showed more ignorance. Calling me a pharisee just shows that you admit that I am knowledgeable of God’s word. Other than missing the Messiah in scripture the Pharisees were spot on.

          • Gay Veteran

            “…Other than missing the Messiah in scripture the Pharisees were spot on.”

            WOW, try a little Google search and see what Jesus said about the Pharisees

          • William Boyd Spencer

            I study it daily. You have already shown that you do not comprehend the bible at all.

          • Gay Veteran

            once again, try a little Google search and see what Jesus said about the Pharisees

          • William Boyd Spencer

            In fact you seem to be retarded on matters that do not align with your disease spreading abomination.

          • Gay Veteran

            my, my, not very Christ-like to be calling people retarded

          • Gay Veteran

            “Words have meanings. God gave us His word in the form of the written words….”

            and yet “god” got it wrong on slavery

          • William Boyd Spencer

            Actually do you understand what slavery entailed with reference to the Jewish people in the biblical times? It is obvious you have no understanding of what you attempt to speak. Your ignorant of truth. Why don’t you study what was meant by slavery in the bible before you continue to show the world how much of an idiot you can be.

          • Gay Veteran

            well gee, bill, isn’t the bible for the ENTIRE world?!?!?
            and what is your excuse for the New Testament in the Roman Empire???

          • William Boyd Spencer

            The bible was written within a historical context. You must understand that historical context to even begin to understand the bible. People like you ignore all context then try to push an understanding of it that is void of all context. It is a moronic way to go about trying to tell people what is written within the bible. It just shows your ignorance.

          • Gay Veteran

            hey junior, guess Israel had the kindler gentler version of slavery, eh.
            but then your type says it is god’s word, which would apply to the WHOLE PLANET. so again, the bible got slavery wrong

          • William Boyd Spencer

            You have to understand it within its historical context before you can apply it to any other context. The people who used the bible to justify American slavery (Democrats) were absolutely wrong. Idiots like you who rip it out of context and claim that slavery was ok are also wrong. You are an idiot because you are not trying to comprehend what the bible actually says but are trying to make it say what you want.

          • Gay Veteran

            people in the South used the bible to justify slavery obviously because the bible was NOT clear on the subject.
            and btw, after 1964 racist southern Democrats became racist southern Republicans (your fellow bible thumpers)

          • William Boyd Spencer

            No I am not going accept your history revision.The bible is very clear to those who properly exegete its truth. Obviously your too ignorant to even begin. You might want to tell your lies to someone who does not know the truth. It was Republicans who passed Civil Rights legislations not Democrats.

          • Gay Veteran

            guess you didn’t get the point:

            “…after 1964 racist southern Democrats became racist southern Republicans (your fellow bible thumpers).”

          • Gay Veteran

            ok, so where does the bible say that slavery is evil and must be abolished?

          • Gay Veteran

            and how ironic that a fundamentalist would talk about “historical context”

          • cynicfrombc

            You need to stop talking about logic, pal. You don’t know much about it.

          • Gay Veteran

            certainly won’t find any in your postings

          • Gervallia

            Go bonk the donk…dork…

          • Gay Veteran

            sorry, I don’t speak troll

          • Phillip Donkin

            So do you have a nice gun collection WBS? C’mon be a man, tell the truth!

          • William Boyd Spencer

            How is that relevant to this conversation?

          • Hope

            We are not animals. But if you want to believe you are one–go ahead! Also have you ever thought that maybe the animals are not displaying homosexual behaviour, but some sort of bonding or something that we don’t understand.
            Being homosexual is not natural–if it were they could procreate with no outside help. The CDC statistics on HIV shows also that it is unnatural. Also behaviours amongst homosexuals prove it is unnatural–a homosexual man being attracted to a man who is a transgender woman. A woman being attracted to another woman who looks exactly like a man (butch).
            The problem is that people and churches are unwilling to speak out against homosexuality–in a non-condemning way. I don’t want to see people living that lifestyle because it is deadly and it is not true love (there is no such thing as a monogamous homosexual couple according to stats). That is why God speaks out about it in the Bible, not because He creates us and know the BEST way of life for us to live!

          • Hope

            Sorry my typing is quicker than my mind:

            That is why God speaks out about it in the Bible, because He created us and knows the BEST way of life for us to live!
            And the answer is not creating a cure for HIV, but stopping the behaviour in the first place.

          • Gay Veteran

            “…stopping the behavior in the first place.”

            spoken like a true fascist.

            and btw, the amount of self-pity you people constantly display is pathetic. Oh, woe is me, we are sooooooo persecuted in this country. You don’t have a bloody clue!

          • Gay Veteran

            “We are not animals….”

            gee, another person who failed biology.

            “…Being homosexual is not natural–if it were they could procreate with no outside help. The CDC statistics on HIV shows also that it is unnatural….”

            And yet you heterosexuals continue to produce us. Perhaps the analogy is bees, only the queen reproduces. HIV? You do understand that in Africa (where HIV originated) that it is primarily a disease of heterosexuals.

            “…Also behaviours amongst homosexuals prove it is unnatural–a homosexual man being attracted to a man who is a transgender woman. A woman being attracted to another woman who looks exactly like a man (butch)….”

            More logic FAIL. A man who is [was] a transgender woman is male, not female. A “butch” woman is still a woman.

            “… I don’t want to see people living that lifestyle because it is deadly and it is not true love (there is no such thing as a monogamous homosexual couple according to stats)….”

            The lifestyle is “deadly” primarily because of bigotry and hate. And considering the divorce rate in this country just how many of you heterosexuals are monogamous couples???

            “…That is why God speaks out about it in the Bible, not because He creates us and know the BEST way of life for us to live!”

            You live your life the way you want to. But don’t try and use the power of the state to impose your views of religion on the rest of us.

          • William Boyd Spencer

            Earlier you pointed out you were unimpressed with my interpretation of scripture. If you have problems of interpretation maybe you should know that evolutionary science is just an interpretation of evidence based on a person’s world view. Since you see yourself as an animal it makes sense that you try so hard to act like the common beast. But since you rely on the same perception of science that gave us frauds such as Nebraska Man and Piltdown man as evidence of evolution I will consider the source.

          • Gay Veteran

            oh lordy, guess you’re another fundamentalist who believes the Earth is 7000 years old.

            I think you missed your century…..the 13th century

          • Hope

            You must be a barrel of fun to be around. I imagine you are a very lonely bitter old man with very little or no real friends or family who want to be around you considering how hateful and demeaning you are towards others. What have you reaped in your life from the lifestyle you have chosen–probably a lot of misery as you sound miserable.

          • hendrix

            I imagine he spends a large part of his time trying not to defecate in his pants because of the damage he has done to his hole by imitating natural monkeys sticking things up their butts. I’ll bet he goes through a case of preparation h a week.

          • Gay Veteran

            awwwww, troll trying to be funny

          • Gay Veteran

            wow, hope you’re better at picking stocks than trying to psychoanalyze someone.

          • Handelson

            Why don’t you both go off somewhere and sodomize each other and get off this website?

          • Phillip Donkin

            I hope you are not referring to me Handelson!

          • Gay Veteran

            oh my, must have got you all hot and tingly

          • Herecale

            Yeah if a monkey sticks objects up its butt it must be ok for you to do it… Ain’t that about it there GV?

          • Gay Veteran

            sorry if don’t realized that people IN GENERAL (including you hets) stick all sorts of things in various orifices

          • Kim

            There is nothing natural about a homosexual act. I don’t care if it’s exhibited by a man, a woman, a goat or a monkey. It’s abnormal. Period,

          • Gay Veteran

            spoken like a truly sexually repressed person.
            you need to go preach to your heterosexual neighbors who engage in sodomy

          • William Boyd Spencer

            Holding to moral behavior does not equate to repression. Nice failure in logic.

          • Gay Veteran

            hmmmmmm, wouldn’t you be more comfortable in a really religious country? Saudi Arabia?

          • William Boyd Spencer

            Without the strawman you have no argument.

          • Gay Veteran

            just another Taliban wannabe

          • Renaldo

            I’ll bet your hole is wore completely out with the stuff you’ve been doing to it. You’ll be wearing a diaper by the time your 50.

          • Gay Veteran

            you mean like your mother?

          • English Kev

            I bet he can’t bring himself to properly trust a fart either.

          • Gay Veteran

            another troll trying to be witty. how sad

          • Phillip Donkin

            Wow! Kim has spoken, listen everyone! She doesn’t know her Bible and sociological geography, but she is the Bitch of Hate.

          • Phillip Donkin

            Well can you then please explain how it’s been around for centuries and is known in all countries on earth? It’s not so unnatural if you think about it, Mother Natures way of correcting the dangerous over populations levels.

          • William Boyd Spencer

            Yep, I guess AIDS can be considered another tool for fixing the fictional overpopulation liberals wholly believe in. That is why I never support finding cures for behavior driven diseases.

          • Gay Veteran

            hi genius, the world has limited resources

          • Jason7189

            A person can still be a Christian and struggle with Homosexuality, as with any other sin. All sin separates us from God, Murder, Coveting, Lying…..ect. There will come a point, when God will give you over to your own depraved mind, if you continually thumb your nose at him. Forgiveness and fellowship, with the Lord is a prayer away, though.

            Leviticus 18:22 “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.”

            1 Timothy 1:10 “The sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else
            is contrary to sound doctrine,”

            Leviticus 20:13 “If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall
            surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.”

            1 Corinthians 7:2 “But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband.”

            Jude 1:7 “Just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and
            pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.”

            Mark 10:6-9 “But from the beginning of creation, ‘God made them male and female.’ ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.”

            Romans 1:26 “Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual
            relations for unnatural ones.”

            Romans 1:28 “Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.

          • Gay Veteran

            any quotes from Jesus in there?

          • William Boyd Spencer

            Paul’s writing holds the same authority as the words of Jesus as recorded in the gospels. Jesus did speak against sexual immorality. Both Jesus and those listening to Him speak at the time would have understood full well that sexual immorality included homosexuality. Jesus definitely understood what a marriage actually consist of. “In the beginning they were made male and female, and for this reason a man will leave his family and join with his wife.(wife being female)

          • Gay Veteran

            well then, more than enough reason to deny marriage equality to gays and lesbians

          • Gay Veteran

            interesting that even some Christians think Paul hijacked Christiainity

          • Gay Veteran

            and btw, why did the Bible get it wrong on the fundamental issue of all time: SLAVERY

          • William Boyd Spencer

            Considering the fact that you are blind to the historical context, I would expect such an ignorant comment from you.

          • Gay Veteran

            still can’t get over the FACT that the bible does not clearly condemn slavery and call for its abolition

        • jaxon64

          everyone please refrain from gay vet’s thinly failed liberal tactics. He has quickly changed the topic from a discussion about free speech and thought and baited you folks into a discussion about whether alpha chimps rape the young males and pod leader of dolphins rape the young male dolphin offspring of other males…
          He will never offer any scientific fact about biological predermination…natural human physiological function or the devastating impact homosexuality has on the health and lifespans of those suffering with these desires…nope..bait and switch, argument and name calling…it is straight from the handbook….

          • Gay Veteran

            poor jaxon64, got the brain power of a gnat.

            “…He will never offer any scientific fact about biological predermination….”

            LOL.
            Look Junior, (a) it is not my job to educate you, think for yourself! (b) like scientific evidence will convince a religious fundamentalist.

            “…the devastating impact homosexuality has on the health and lifespans of those suffering with these desires….”

            The overwhelming majority of which is cause by bigotry and hate from the likes of you.

          • Phillip Donkin

            What scientific fact to you have up your sleeve jaxon64? Yes as I guessed just your pathological hatred of other human beings!

          • cynicfrombc

            When we disagree with your lifestyle or the one you are at least defending, this does not make us haters.

          • Phillip Donkin

            It is not a lifestyle! You Christians tell us that we chose to be Gay so you can then disrespect us and hate us. You want to have your cake and eat it to. The bottom line is, the Christian Bible is a thick book with many sins in it. You all consciously sin and commit abominations but because they are not of the flesh you give your self the right and approve them. Your willful ignorance and hypocrisy know, no bounds.

          • cynicfrombc

            Philip, I am sure that being gay is a complicated reality. I wouldn’t speculate on the causes of it. Human beings have many disordered desires, e.g. greed, anger, envy, heterosexual lust, hatred and the like. Christian ethics deals with the whole gamut of sin. If it seems Christians are preoccupied with abortion and homosexual marriage, this is probably because these are the sins which activists have been seeking to normalize through the courts of our land for the last decades. In reality, if you attend a Christian church, you are far more likely to hear warnings about greed and materialism than about homosexual practice. Don’t believe me? Check one out in your neighborhood.

          • Gay Veteran

            what is disordered is that you think you know the absolute word of god.

            try a little humility

          • cynicfrombc

            Do you think anything in the world could be disordered? By your standards, how would anyone know?

            In any case, you have not responded to any of my points. You are just carrying on with your rant.

          • Gay Veteran

            you can do what you want so long as you do not harm another.
            no need for Big Government or Big Religion

          • Phillip Donkin

            I appreciate this cynicfrombc and this is my whole argument. Thank you for reading me. The trouble is my Gayness is not a choice. You can now tell me that it is but you are denying me my human dignity and from what I know only your God (not mine) can do that!

          • Oasis

            Lifestyle Phil…Lifestyle…deal with it.

          • Gay Veteran

            I disagree with your lifestyle, this does not make me a hater

          • Phillip Donkin

            Yes it does because for #1. You tell us it’s a life style. Like purchasing a couch. #2. So you can then project all your consciously chosen sins onto us and fool your self into believing, that you are a good Christian: Wrong!!!!

          • Phillip Donkin

            You can’t control your self cynicfrom bc: you only became a Christian so you could hate (and make lots of money from your hatred).

          • cynicfrombc

            Philip, the problem with people like you is that your analytic abilities are not sufficiently developed to allow you to distinguish between two thoughts, as follows:

            1. I think homosexuality is a sin.

            2. I hate homosexuals.

            I am quite happy to tolerate homosexuals in my community. In fact, I have friendships with a couple of them. However, I will never approve of their lifestyle. They are well aware of my feelings.

            Do you understand now? Please. Develop. Your. Mind.

          • Phillip Donkin

            I will develop my mind when you read your Bible and consider the sins and abominations that you consciously decide to make on an hourly basis!

          • Gay Veteran

            I bet you have some Black friends too!

          • Oasis

            well said cynicfrombc.. but the reason he says what he does is because he hates his life and he is trying to spread the hate around…Misery loved company.. Don’t feed the Trolls

          • Phillip Donkin

            Have you heard the latest? Phil Robertson is a pedophile! Just so typical the more ant-Gay, the bigger the evil hypocrite.

        • Phillip Donkin

          God condones a lot of things Guest, why don’t you try reading the Bible and educate your willfully ignorant brain for a change. Stop projecting your consciously chosen sins onto homosexuals!

          • Jones

            Stop wagging your dikskinning filthy fingers in everyone’s face.

          • Phillip Donkin

            You just can’t cope with the truth Jones!

          • William Boyd Spencer

            Yep can you give us the historical context of your assertions. Let us see your hermeneutic at work?

          • Gay Veteran

            oh look, the Pharisee likes to use big words

          • Gay Veteran

            “hermeneutic”?
            wow, you must have one heck of an inferiority complex to try and impress people with such a word

        • Captain Canuck

          God also condones the stoning of adulterous women in the Old Testament.

          So which is it? Who gets to pick and choose which scripture stands and which doesn’t?

          If you are against homosexuality, you should stop hiding behind your religious texts to justify your beliefs.

          You should just man up and admit to the world that you’re a bigot. No better than a racist.

      • Eric

        So what speech did Robertson use that was “abusive?”

        • jaxon64

          None…no defamation and no maliciuosness…

          • Phillip Donkin

            Hateful morons answering other hateful morons questions!

    • ConcernedAmerican

      When others “speak truth to power” they are punished, fired, and blacklisted for it.

      • Gay Veteran

        good examples are Edward Snowden and Bradley Manning, not Phil Robertson

      • Phillip Donkin

        Because we have all heard it before, we know it. What about your sins Concerned American, why don’t you tell us about your sins!

        • Oasis

          we all have them- but are not obligated to tell you about them- what’s your point Bully?

          • Phillip Donkin

            Why do I bother? It’s such a waste of time. I could quote your Bible and you will still remain bigot, haters. That’s why you all call yourself Christian so you can indulge in some God blessed hatred. I know I am right and you are all wrong! Good bye!!!!

          • Oasis

            Phillip- you should get out in the real world more often- the only people who are bigots and haters are the Liberals- most intolerant bunch on earth. I find those who do not understand Phil are not educated enough to get what he is saying- he is blunt, but there is nothing offensive in what he says.

          • Phillip Donkin

            Dream on Oasis in your own willfully ignorant oasis. I live on planet earth, along with all the Christian and Muslim haters: that don’t know right from wrong and think that HATE is the word of their God.

          • Oasis

            Get back on your meds Phillip Dunkin LOL..what a weirdo you are….we need to regulate internet usage, and you get banned after spew in gust so much hate..in that case you have exceeded your limit.

          • Phillip Donkin

            To think that you call your self Oasis?
            Oasis of the ignorance of Biblical Scripture. The ignorance that gives you the right to get on line and attack me for what I am. Yet again I fight an up hill battle with red neck, repressed human beings that live to hate!

          • Oasis

            working yourself up into some real hate huh Phillip Dunkin?

          • Drud

            Sorry, Phillip, I do not know you, have never read any post by you before, but even through the most cursory of examination your every word is dripping with hate.

          • Phillip Donkin

            Congratulations Oasis. You are now defending a known pedophile! How do you feel about your self now?

          • Oasis

            you are such a liar…people who accuse others of such outrageous things do so because they themselves are guilty

      • Drud

        “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” – Paul Joseph Goebbels

    • seth datta

      Its anti-elite. Rothschilds, Soros, Brzezinski, Kissinger and Kissinger seek to imprison us using teh TSA, NSA, GCHQ, MI5/6, CIA etc..

      They need hanging or death by firing squad to prevent the atrocities they have planned, compounded to those they have already caused.

      • Phillip Donkin

        I need clarification seth datta. Who exactly needs hanging? If you mean us Queers, haven’t you just willfully contributed to this pathetic argument, in a way that reinforces our side of the argument? Oh that’s right Americans don’t understand irony!!!!

        • seth datta

          When did i say queers? Did you even read what I wrote, are you blind, or did you take some grade a drugs today? I am not even going to respond to you with a comment ever in future; 5 people have agreed with my logical conclusion, compared to your comment which you have fabricated up in the depths of your asinine mind.

        • Oasis

          You need hanging Phillip “Troll Dunkin” give it up…go somewhere where people believe your twisted ideas..your posts are boring and a waste of space

    • Phillip Donkin

      Hey Farmbeet, what would you know about manhood! You hind behind the word of God because you are a coward. Grow some balls scum!

    • Oasis

      I love Phil Robertson, I think perhaps what happened may well be a Christmas Miracle in that we have found our voice and have stood up against the bullies and said NO- THIS IS OUR BELIEF, OUR GOD AND YOU WILL NOT CHANGE THAT

  • Kim

    I agree with Phil Robertson in spirit but not substance. There are tactful ways of conveying your thoughts and his were crass and unsympathetic. Homosexuality is part of our culture now, and we must deal with it. But to deal with it in vulgarities is not right, IMO. I don’t watch the show and I have no opinion on the network. Homosexual acts are a sin.

    • Gay Veteran

      I fixed your sentence: Homosexuality is part of our world, and we must deal with it.

      • Rodster

        It’s part of YOUR world thanks to the LGBT mafia.

        • Gay Veteran

          LOL, so you’re not part of the world as it is?

        • Guest

          I agree, Rodster.

      • Chris

        Doesn’t mean we should embrace it though.

        • Gay Veteran

          doesn’t matter whether you “embrace” it, nature continues

  • ConcernedAmerican

    This is nothing new. There are people that have been fired for speaking their religious beliefs at their place of employment 20 years ago. The only reason anyone cares now or this time is because this time it happened to a t.v. star. People have taken other people’s jobs away and blacklisted them from an entire career simply because they disagree with them for decades and longer. People are the same as always. Unless you agree with everything others say, others will fire, blacklist, imprison, etc. the person that disagrees with them. Then, once they take away someone’s job, they have the nerve to complain about that person being on welfare or food stamps.

    • Gay Veteran

      black lists? like the Hollywood black lists in the 40s and 50s?

  • barry oldwater

    unemployable? The family is wealthy and I am pretty sure he has made a tidy bit of scratch from earlier shows, idiots think they are hurting him? Duck call sales tapering off might put a dent into the family fortune but taking him off the air will not.

  • texascitizen

    The fact that this is a discussion testifies to the reality that homosexual behavior is sinful and everyone knows it. The objective is to silence the conviction.

    • Gay Veteran

      sorry bud, but even not all Christians would agree with you

      • NowAlive

        What’s your point? The fact is that Christians are all human and therefore some are always going to be wrong or right. The ones that are wrong on this point are those that say they are Christian but then don’t believe in what makes a Christian a Christian: salvation through Christ and trusting Him, who IS the Word. He said it was wrong. It is.

        • Guest

          Amen!

        • Gay Veteran

          oh, I’m sorry, where Jesus say being Gay was wrong?

          • Jeff

            Hey dum dum. Jesus came to fulfill the need the Old Testament demanded. Payment for sin. His will came to us through the apostles. Since the letters to the churches(Romans to Revelation) weren’t meant for those who have no reference of relationship……salvation……because they were written to the churches. You need to repent and be baptised in the name of Jesus Christ or you will ever be under the judging of the law and not New Testament grace. Hence no need to repeat what you already know. My advice to you…choose well and be happy of your choice for when you take your last breath in this life, because there are plenty of references in the letters written for the perfection of the saints.

          • Gay Veteran

            religion exists for 2 reasons:
            (1) man fears death,
            (2) as a means of social control (obey the king or you’ll go to hell)

          • William Boyd Spencer

            That is your baseless opinion. You are entitled to it. However, that opinion is void of truth.

          • Gay Veteran

            based in fact

          • Phillip Donkin

            Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich.

            Napoleon Bonaparte.

          • William Boyd Spencer

            I know that you do not comprehend biblical hermeneutics. However, Jesus spoke against sexual immorality. His audience what have defined sexual immorality by the Leviticus laws. In Leviticus it is made plain as day that homosexuality is a sin. Since Jesus spoke against sexual immorality, he spoke against homosexuality. Proper exegesis of God’s word always leads to the conclusion that homosexuality is a sin. Paul’s words are just as important as Jesus’.

          • Phillip Donkin

            Yeah except that Paul never meet Jesus. Paul just had some egocentric, fantastic dream that you now believe is the word of God. So you can then project your God given right, consciously chosen sins onto homosexuals. You red neck coward!

          • William Boyd Spencer

            Paul never met Jesus? Wrong. On the road to Damascus. Oh by the way he was not sleeping but traveling. It is very likely that he could have met Jesus before His crucifixion since they both were in Jerusalem. To say conclusively that Paul never met Jesus shows that you never do anything more than read into scripture what you want.

          • Gay Veteran

            Since you’re so big on Levitcus then why don’t you obey ALL of Leviticus?

          • William Boyd Spencer

            It is called context. It takes understanding the difference between the ceremonial laws that were made for the Jewish people and were fulfilled in Christ and the moral laws that have always been in effect. I know trying to comprehend the context would be too big a burden on you.

          • Gay Veteran

            wow, arrogant and morally superior. the sun must shine out your a**

          • Phillip Donkin

            He actually said “Some men won’t marry as they were born that way”.
            He also said a lot about divorce and greed (the American way of life).

        • Gay Veteran

          put 9 Christians in a room with a Bible and you’ll come up with 10 different interpretations

          • hally

            Put a gay veteran in a room with 9 other queers and all of them will have some butt disease within 5 years…..

          • Gay Veteran

            oh my, another foul mouthed troll trying to be witty.

          • William Boyd Spencer

            The essential doctrines there is very little disagreements on. However, how you define “Christians” would be interesting to know. Not everyone who claims to be is. Only those who do His will. I thought you read the bible? Guess not!

          • Gay Veteran

            because only William Boyd Spencer knows who is a real Christian.
            such arrogance

      • Kim

        Any Christian that disagrees that homosexual acts are a sin does not read his or her Christian Greek scriptures, which the Christian religion is solely based on.

        • Phillip Donkin

          Your are joking, right?

          • Kim

            So, homosexual acts are acceptable in the Christian Greek scriptures? On the contrary,

          • Gay Veteran

            hey Kim, how about slavery?

          • William Boyd Spencer

            Please explain the historical context of slavery as spoken in the bible. This argument is invalid because you ask it with out actually knowing what you are referring to.

          • Gay Veteran

            poor, poor, WBS, knows the bible does not clearly condemn slavery and call for it to be abolished.
            Any MORAL person knows that slavery is inherently evil. But you go ahead and fixate on us gays

      • William Boyd Spencer

        All true Christians see homosexuality as a sin. A person who twists scripture for their own needs is not Christian. It takes a lot of twisting to dismiss the sinfulness of homosexuality.

        • Phillip Donkin

          Twist away you willfully ignorant pig!

        • Gay Veteran

          The problem is that not even all Christians would agree with you. But I guess only YOU have the true word of god.

    • Phillip Donkin

      Homosexuality is only a sin because heterosexual men gave them selves the arrogant right to write the Bible.

  • Chris

    We have very devious and intrinsically evil people playing a game on many levels.
    In the UK at the moment there is anger that a well known retail company called Marks and Spencer (Jewish) gave a Muslim checkout operator backing to refuse to serve alcohol to customers. They have since backtracked a bit. However it occurs to me that if you want to start/intensify a big illegal/phoney war in the Middle East where you will be killing people, mostly Muslims, then you need to get the population on your side to reduce the opposition to it. You could do this by deliberately whipping up anti Muslim feeling using an engineered incident. This situation in the US could be similar and could be used to silence future anti war protesters and remove freedom of speech.

  • texascitizen

    This thread obviously contains troll comments designed to influence opinion. Shame …. You know who you are

    • Gay Veteran

      man up and directly address the person

  • tuco22

    The cross is offensive to those who are perishing.

  • Gay Veteran

    “…#6 Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal: “I remember when TV networks believed in the First Amendment. It is a messed up situation when Miley Cyrus gets a laugh, and Phil Robertson gets suspended.””

    yet more proof Bobby Jindal is an idiot, the First Amendment limits government actions

    • Kim

      I agree whole heartedly. And I will further say that the first amendment has its limits. Read the chaplinsky case. Fighting words are not covered under the first amendment, neither is yelling “fire” in a crowded theater (unless there really is a fire).

  • DJohn1

    The problem is when you work for a devil you will get sucked into the devil’s crap.
    They all give vocal allegiance to the FREE SPEECH part of the bill of rights. They are all against it IF it is something they disagree with.
    This isn’t about gay rights or not. It is about financial intimidation. I suggest we close A&E down. It is quite simple. No audience means no sponsors. No sponsors means no network.
    There are a good number of Christians in this country. I suggest they far outnumber gay people. I have nothing against personal preferences in their sexual behavior. What I do have against any group bullying financially is that it is just plain wrong.
    One of the finest people I have known in my life stood up to a boss that wanted me out of there. I didn’t fit in. I wasn’t a good old boy down at the bar with his little court.
    I was at a critical part of my apprenticeship. This person who stood up for me was gay. But he never ever tried to make me gay. We were good friends for many years. He died a couple of years ago. This boss wanted to fire me for not making the grade. The problem was I did make the grade in that particular part of the trade.

    As it turned out, I was well educated. I was very good with a keyboard of any kind. I have an engineering kind of mind and that particular part of the trade I was good at.
    This person stood up for me when others would have went along with anything the boss wanted.
    It takes all kinds of people to make up a world.

    If there is a reason to contain the gay community it is because of biological concerns. Some idiot in New York made up a batch of polio vaccine from some African Monkeys. Those monkeys were contaminated with AIDS and HIV. This was done many years ago. A lot of the gay community went down and took the vaccinations. Before anyone was aware of it, these vaccinations gave a lot of people both gay and not gay AIDS.
    A lot of that community had multiple partners. It spread like wildfire.

    If there is a curse on the gay community that is it. To this day, AIDS and HIV have hurt this group more than any other.
    Any group with multiple partners is going to have the same problem. The only way to isolate and kill off the disease is going to be single partner relationships and isolating the people that are known to have it with their partners.
    This isn’t new. The entire world has taken this view with leprosy.

    I think it would make more sense to figure out WHY someone has taken the stand of same partner relationships and understand what makes them tick. This has to be a combination of biology, personality, and possible other factors.

    Eventually we will find a cure. But that is a different story.
    Phil Robertson has expressed his views based on the Bible. Might be careful because there are a whole lot of people out there of various Christian Faiths that do agree with his view and when one of their own is fired they might do a little bit of firing themselves.

    • Gay Veteran

      From your comments you must really support marriage equality for Gays.

      • DJohn1

        I believe we must contain the biological problems with gays that filter down to a lot of innocent people. So if letting them have a recognized relationship is going to do that then yes we should allow them to have a recognized legal relationship.
        But that also means rights to divorce as well as marry. It does not mean that they are recognized by our churches. That is a matter of faith and belief.
        The churches must make that decision based on their belief system. That also is a recognized right in this country.
        If you want gay marriage, then put together a religion that recognizes it, don’t force it down the throats of people that don’t.
        I also believe that it is not in the province of government to legislate things they cannot control. We get into a problem whenever we make things illegal that we cannot control.
        A whole lot of innocent people get hurt whenever we do that.
        Government cannot and has not had any success in controlling a whole lot of things. The result is criminal empires far beyond the ability of any police agency or court to administer control over.
        The far lesser evil has to be finding cures for things like addictions to drugs.
        These same addictions lead to all kinds of illegal activities and a tremendous drain on the resources of government.
        How many people have to go to jail before government realises this simple fact?
        There are reasons why we have the biggest criminal jailed population in the world. That is to the tune of about 42,000 dollars a year to keep them contained.
        Until we have a justice system that works a little bit better than this one, we will always have a large criminal population jailed in this country.
        A lot of that population might be gay.

        • Gay Veteran

          “…If you want gay marriage, then put together a religion that recognizes it, don’t force it down the throats of people that don’t…”
          nice strawman you built

          • DJohn1

            Are you saying that this won’t work?
            I am of the opinion that government doesn’t work when it becomes too complex.
            We have more religions practicing in the United States than I can count.
            A lot of those religions believe they are following the Bible.
            Yet all of these religions appear to condemn certain behaviors. Homosexual behavior is almost universally condemned at both Federal and State levels.
            The United States government ends up as a referee between all religions to keep the peace. The entire idea is to keep the referee neutral. Unless the various churches unite together to figure out how it is going to be handled.
            Don’t think that will happen anywhere soon.
            So how do you make that work? To make anything work all the laws up and down every level of government will have to be deleted, changed, or put in a modern context.
            So in order for what I said to work we have to have a civil contract not a religious marriage. And it has to follow a bunch of antique laws that will have to be revised not ignored.
            Otherwise one law contradicts another and both laws will have to be thrown off the books.
            That is the complicated mess groups of individuals are dealing with.
            In an effort to remain neutral government has become more complex.
            You have to look at what these gays are going to gain by addressing a very complex issue.
            With a legal marriage, what they do is authorized by the government.
            They also accept complex breaking up laws. They also accept Social Security for one’s spouse if one partner dies. If I make a lot more money than my wife, when I die she can opt to take my social security instead of her own.
            Statistically, I will probably die first.
            We are a nation of laws. Most of the Congress are degreed lawyers.
            The problem is that lawyers constantly make government more complex with laws that conflict with existing laws.
            Your letter agencies are infamous for complex bureau regulations that no one really understands.
            I was taught when writing a real estate contract to keep everything as simple plain English as possible.
            My broker claimed that did more to offset the complex lawyers than anything else under the Sun.
            Until we break up the complex law structure of this country and start over with simple rules, Gay Marriage is not likely to happen. All that will happen is we will see it put into the hands of lawyers and they will twist the law to their own ends.
            I think criminal law is involved here in all of the states of the Union.
            What I do see happening is government ignoring any laws they do not like and refusing to enforce them.
            That is currently going on all over the place. The question becomes can they get away with that without a huge backlash.
            Wishing you a good Holiday season.

          • Gay Veteran

            “…Homosexual behavior is almost universally condemned at both Federal and State levels….”

            ????????????

            “…So in order for what I said to work we have to have a civil contract not a religious marriage….”

            uh, you do understand that a marriage license is a CIVIL license, not religious

            “…You have to look at what these gays are going to gain by addressing a very complex issue.
            With a legal marriage, what they do is authorized by the government.
            They also accept complex breaking up laws. They also accept Social Security for one’s spouse if one partner dies….”

            well……yeah, they’re paying Social Security taxes

            as for the rest of your posting….????????

            Happy Holidays

          • hanson

            Don’t force objects up you butt. That’s the wrong way . EXIT ONLY.

          • Gay Veteran

            tell that to your sister

  • Gay Veteran

    To understand Phil Robertson you have to look at what else he has said recently:

    “I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person,” Robertson is quoted in GQ. “Not once. Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I’m with the blacks, because we’re white trash. We’re going across the field…. They’re singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, ‘I tell you what: These doggone white people’—not a word!… Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues.”

    I guess he doesn’t realize that under Jim Crow you could be lynched for criticizing “these doggone white people.
    What a dumba**!

    • garyamusic .

      Have a blessed Christmas GV.

      • Gay Veteran

        and Happy Holidays to you too

  • Joseph Stahlin

    In my country we dealt with the Robertson kind very harshly…Im sure my followers in yours will do what they need to do

    • Dave

      Your country also dealt with homosexuals very harshly, sir. Did you let them speak up, or were they forced into silence because you disagreed with their actions?

    • garyamusic .

      My country, my followers, get a grip!

      The Robertson’s “kind” will do what they need to do.

  • Virginia

    Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

    Vanity is a sin, a deadly sin. Broadcasting to the world each week on TV how pious and prayerful you are is vanity. Prayer should be silent and personal; people should not be calling attention to themselves for praying. Yet this family participates in this sin and is applauded for it. Shameful ways, America.

    No man should be discussing the sins of other men.

    • garyamusic .

      I take it you’re a Christian Virginia. Those are some strange views you have there, where did you learn them?

    • Chris

      Can they not discuss the sin in general terms without referring to a particular person?

    • JAFO

      What a load of crap … Persons a pedophile but don’t warn the neighbourhood – well you know cause we ain’t suppose to talk about his sin.

      I also love how people misuse the verse “let he who is without sin …. As an excuse for their immoral behavior. The verse is an illustration by Christ to the corrupt temple priests for their corrupt piety and suppression on the Jews people with their man made laws. Their law had replaced Gods law and had become a burden to the people. Jesus also used it to show He had fulfilled the law and grace was soon to replace it. Quit taking a single versus out of context ….

      • Gay Veteran

        more logic FAIL. If a person is a pedophile then they are a felon, and the community can indeed we warned.

  • Ricky Ross

    There is no Left or Right — there is only freedom or tyranny.
    Everything else is an illusion, an obfuscation to keep you confused and
    talking about the specified, yet worthless talking points, as the world
    burns around you.

  • Ricky Ross

    Why do you keep deleting my post?

  • Ricky Ross

    Let’s do this all day! You obviously do not like the truth being spoken…

  • Republiman

    Phil is just expressing his faith. No matter if you agree with how he said it, his speech is protected under the constitution.

    God said it before anyone else so if you disagree with Phil, know that you disagree with God and are calling him a liar. The problem is that the Word is being discarded for political correctness. Who’s political correctness? Mans. There is a God, and my hope is that people who don’t know him will take a chance to read his word and come to him in repentance and faith in his works on the cross. He said he came to save all, not just some. He came for you and I because we are also told in his word that we are all sinners and fall short of the glory of God. I love everyone but I don’t have to love your sin.

    If I disagree with your life style, that’s on me not you. I have a firm conviction in my beliefs and will not waver on the word of God. Neither has Phil Robertson wavered. God bless him. And God bless you also whether you are a believer or not. If you are gay, you are still loved by God as much as any of us other sinners. I wish you peace but also a relationship with your creator God.

    • Gay Veteran

      the problem is that YOU think you know the absolute word of god. well that’s a problem when so many other Christians disagree with you

  • Ted

    This country was founded on God’s word and christianity. We have all strayed from God’s laws;(the Bible) And I think this country is under God’s judgment. WE need to all get our bibles out and start studying and ask the good lord Jesus for forgiveness.

    • Gay Veteran

      “This country was founded on God’s word and christianity….”

      thanks for explaining slavery

      • William Boyd Spencer

        Show me the historical context of slavery as mentioned in the bible. Show me that you even understand of what you pretend to speak.

        • Gay Veteran

          poor WBS, knows the bible does not clearly condemn slavery and call for it to be abolished.
          Any MORAL person knows that slavery is inherently evil. But you go ahead and fixate on us gays

    • Gay Veteran

      and yet the Constitution does not mention god

      • hendrix

        And it certainly doesn’t mention that you have a right to insert objects and parts of your anatomy up other men’s butts….

        • Gay Veteran

          Ninth Amendment to the United States Constitution:

          The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

      • Ted

        since you have read the constitution, I am sure you are aware of Phil’s right to free speech!

        • Gay Veteran

          oh lordy, yet another person who does not understand the First Amendment which limits GOVERNMENT power over speech

          • Ted

            Not only government but no one can govern free speech.

          • William Boyd Spencer

            So an employer would have every right to fire a homosexual over derogatory remarks about God, correct? Are you willing to stay consistent on that?

          • Gay Veteran

            sure, just like an employer would have every right to fire a heterosexual over derogatory remarks about gays

  • jsav777

    I think the bible is on trial here not just free speech – the gay community arent tolerant at all and they have just proved that in a massive way

    • Gay Veteran

      hmmmmm, like the pot calling the kettle black

      • JAFO

        Sorry, but I don’t see how Christians aren’t tolerant. You have your life style, benefits, Marrage … So what are you whinning about. Someone’s opinion …. Yet you feel free to spout off yours. Talk about intolerant … He gives his opinion and all gays call him intolerant … While they themselves are not tolerant of his opinion. You may not like it but who cares … I don’t particularly like all the gay media crap … But I don’t make an issue out of it. … Liberals and gays the most intolerant people there are ..

        • Gay Veteran

          “Sorry, but I don’t see how Christians aren’t tolerant….”

          oh, I’m sorry, but it must have been some other group of “Christians” that have been fighting the repeal of sodomy laws (like the Republican candidate for governor in Virginia?), fighting marriage equality, etc.

          “…He gives his opinion and all gays call him intolerant….”

          Thy shalt not lie. I did not call him intolerant. I just think that he’s a dumba** (especially after his comments on Jim Crow).

          “…Liberals and gays the most intolerant people there are….”

          failed history, eh

  • Arizona

    I’am going to tell ALL you moderators something,YOU ARE NOT VERY POPULAR,theres a WAR coming and I guarantee, you will be hunted like a wild animal,YOUR being GUILTY OF TREASON,each and everyone of you,THE first amendment,of the US CONSTITUTION,was paid for with the BLOOD of several members of my family,and millions of OTHER americans DIED in defence of it too,seems like most commies don’t care,TILL THERES A ROPE AROUND THEIR NECK,and its going to happen a lot real soon………………..

  • dan morgan

    And Jesus said to them , whomever of you. who is without sin, cast the first stone ?! I wonder who would cast the first stone. A man that has accepted new testament beliefs or a person with hedonistic beliefs ? I wonder?

    • JAFO

      Did he cast a stone? Nor did he limit his comments on sin just to gays. But it’s funny just to see the gay community get their panties in a bunch. Having to protect themselves – from what someone’s opinion. The gay community pushes their adgenda all the time and it offends all sorts of people but you don’t here us freaking whinning about it. Let, it go folks you only represent 1 percent of the population. Shut up do what you want for a life style but the rest of us are sick of your whinning. Keep pushing and sooner then latter the 90 percent are going to push back .. Hard ..

      • Gay Veteran

        hey JAFO, you fundamentalists have been pushing your agenda for decades

      • Gay Veteran

        “…Nor did he limit his comments on sin just to gays….”
        where did Jesus comment on gays?

  • Kim

    One way traffic. To excrete bodily waste. Any sexual use is a twist of natural design. We already know this.

  • BornAgain

    I stand with Phil Robertson, but can anyone tell me why we as Christians argue over one sin being worse than another?

    • Gay Veteran

      LOL, because it is easy to condemn a “sin” you don’t engage in

      • BornAgain

        We’re a bunch of hypocrites Gay, and we need a Savior! Wait a minute !!!
        I know someone!!

  • stevo_777

    I think this is being used as a test to see if the people that go by Christ’s name will take a stand or not. We must come down off the fence and choose a side or we’ll be knocked off one way or another.
    I support Phil.

  • Gay Veteran

    “…We are becoming a nation that is governed by bullying, intimidation and unwritten speech codes, and if you happen to say the “wrong thing” you could lose everything…..”
    hmmmmm, you people sound like defenders of free speech.

    btw, where were you during the following:

    “…The American Family Association (AFA) is alerting its members to companies who are supportive of GLBT employees and is asking “Christian consumers…to think twice before they patronize companies that support the homosexual agenda.” AFA lists major corporations that have non-discrimination policies that include sexual orientation or that offer domestic-partner benefits for same-sex couples, including Eastman Kodak, Citigroup, PepsiCo., American Airlines, Allstate Insurance, and the Coca-Cola Company….”

    Free speech? Guess it depends on whose ox is being gored, eh.

    HYPOCRITES

  • Ed

    SQUIRREL!!!!!, EVERYBODY LOOK! CHASE! While our rights are without question being tested, and violated, agredeiosly in this case, they are every day! Whats going on simultaneously? What don’t they want us to focus on? NDAA passed, new clause added, TPP to be voted on by years end, and why is ILLbombya out of the contingent 48? Look at the left hand don’t watch the right.

  • Gay Veteran

    more logic FAIL, cannibalism and rape harm others.
    and btw, heterosexuals engage in a lot of sodomy too

  • Gay Veteran

    my, my, don’t know who your potty mouthed diatribe was aimed at but you really need to get back on your meds

  • sunrise420

    This country is going in a very dangerous direction. Up is down and down is up. Democratic talk is in style as long as it is on the ‘right’ side of an issue. This is obviously not democratic. We must fight back and boycott any companies that pull out of advertising with someone who said something that wasn’t politically correct. That is the only thing that will make a difference. These people are trying to ‘own’ people’s attitudes. Enough!

  • sunrise420

    Homosexuals are terrified to allow his type of thinking out there. They want to quash it with all their might. They want America and the world to accept their behavior as the norm. They will fight tooth and nail to steamroll anyone that threatens their mission.

    • Gay Veteran

      hey junior, people like Phil have been around for a long time, nothing new there.
      and I’ll even let you in on a secret. us Gays? our “mission”? we want legal equality. shocking, isn’t it

      • JAFO

        Legal equality fine. What is happening now is you want more. I could care less what you do in private with a consenting adult. But I’m sick and tired of all the “gay” propaganda BS.

        • Gay Veteran

          such as?

  • ted

    This kind of moral coercion is happening not just in USA but in Europe too just as it did in Communist Russia and China. Laws exist to protect people from acts of discrimination or exploitation, so why is it necessary to prevent people from having opinions that are unpopular or unfair even? Thinking is not a crime, no matter how offensive, we cannot deny people the right to speak their minds – to do otherwise is the beginning of totalitarianism.

  • Arkansan for Phil

    Phil is being what we’re all supposed to be, a fisher of men, and he does it with great boldness,without pretense, and proclaims the word of God, as far as I’m concerned a modern day Paul, Kuddos to you brother Phil!!!

  • Gay Veteran

    tell us what the anatomic function of the mouth is

    • Kim

      Oh please. Really?

      • Gay Veteran

        yes Kim

        • Kim

          Ok then

  • Gay Veteran

    same post 4 times.
    sorry, but it doesn’t get better with repetition

  • Alan Drobnak

    I this writer actually believes this old duck is “one of the biggest names in the United States” then our culture is in a much worse state of being than anyone ever imagined. Ever hear of the phrase ‘dumbing down America’? The lamestream media teevee is the tool and these dumb ducks are the materials used to shape our culture.

  • Mary Brown

    The non stop attack on Christianity went into over drive when Obama became president. It is violating the first amendment and once they do away with that one they will do away with all of the Bill of Rights.

    We have to draw a line in the sand and say no more. I will say Merry Christmas and I don’t care if it offends somebody. I have to put up with their religious sayings when I hear them in public. What about the call to prayer in cities with Muslim Mosques? That violates my Christian beliefs yet I am not out there saying it can’t exist.

    Christianity is one thing blocking the take over of America by corrupt big business, they cannot have people believing in anything, people cannot have hope for a better life, they have to be ground down until they grovel for them to complete their takeover.

    I for one will not stand by idly and let it happen, I am a redneck with my bible and my rifle.

    • Gay Veteran

      “…Christianity is one thing blocking the take over of America by corrupt big business….”

      ROFLOL, sorry Mary but that fight is OVER. We now live under fascism (the merger of state and corporate power).

      • Mary Brown

        You might, I will fight back.

  • disqus_7ayGJSNXFl

    My point as I expressed on other blogs was as you have posted. The anger from the American people should be the right to speak your beliefs, without recourse from others. Mr. Robertson has every right to free speech. I also totally agree with what he said. I do not hate anyone, but I do know what God says in the bible about sin.

    • Gay Veteran

      and what does the bible say about slavery?

  • worldwatchman

    It’s pretty pathetic when what he said was NOT ALL included in the story. The Left took just a snippet and ran with it. What he said was basically homosexuality is a sin. Which it is BUT he was saying that it’s equal to all other sins. Sin is sin. I stand 100% for him. He didn’t say ANYTHING that was wrong. America can’t continue to select what’s not allowed to be said and what is allowed. These are steps to Nazism and Communism. America IS falling and we need to stand firm to help stop the fall. By allowing homosexuals to be married, we’re saying it’s okay to sin. Thus, saying to the Holy Trinity, you don’t matter anymore. Truly all of these and other events around the world are signs of the return of Jesus Christ. Sadly, it IS going to get much, much worse.

    • Gay Veteran

      “…By allowing homosexuals to be married, we’re saying it’s okay to sin….”

      and that is the problem. you want to use the power of the state to impose your religious views on everyone else.

      • worldwatchman

        Sorry you’re afraid of the truth. Sin is sin. No getting around it.

        • Gay Veteran

          think for yourself

  • P.F.

    the GOD of Israel said being gay is a sin and that is exactly what it is. people state that Christians needs to be reeducated about gay people–in truth, GOD is going to reeducate the sinner. When YESHUA HIMSELF returns HE is not coming to please the ‘gay community’ HE is coming to destroy all sin. people can make all the sickening excuses they want to justify their sin but when they stand before YESHUA woe to them.

    • Gay Veteran

      and what did the GOD of Israel say about slavery?

  • Phillip Donkin

    American Christians have a big chip on there shoulders because they were never mentioned in their God’s Bible.
    So then they have taken Christianity and corrupted it with greed, fame and fortune. All the things that Christ denounced. So all they can do now is quote Paul, a person that never meet Christ, and act as if there are only 2 sins in the Bible: abortion and homosexuality. The 2 very things that are saving the planet from unnatural and dangerous overpopulation. Root in hell Morons!

    • hendrix

      you’ve got a root in your butt and a loose screw to go with it…

    • Mark Caldwell

      Sexual morality and protection of the most vulnerable are integral parts of Christianity, if you hate those then you hate Christianity. Which is no surprise, as the bible says those that love the Lord will be hate for it.

      • Gay Veteran

        protection of the most vulnerable? like slaves?

  • Phillip Donkin

    American Christians have a big chip on there shoulders because they were never mentioned
    in their God’s Bible.

    So then they have
    taken Christianity and corrupted it with greed, fame and fortune. All the
    things that Christ denounced. So all they can do now is quote Paul, a person
    that never meet Christ, and act as if there are only 2 sins in the Bible:
    abortion and homosexuality. The 2 very things that are saving the planet from
    unnatural and dangerous overpopulation. Root in hell Morons!

  • Phillip Donkin

    American Christians have a big chip on there shoulders because they were never mentioned
    in their God’s Bible.

    So then they have
    taken Christianity and corrupted it with greed, fame and fortune. All the
    things that Christ denounced. So all they can do now is quote Paul, a person
    that never meet Christ, and act as if there are only 2 sins in the Bible:
    abortion and homosexuality. The 2 very things that are saving the planet from
    unnatural and dangerous overpopulation. Root in hell Morons!

    • hendrix

      donkin has a big buttcrack that goes all the way up to his shoulders. Thats’s because he has had his hole stretched all out of proportion with the rest of his body by his cretin buttfiends that think imitating monkey business is normal.

      • Gay Veteran

        oh my, stoopid people shouldn’t try to be witty

  • Phillip Donkin

    Hey cynicfrombc! You should change your name to willfully ignorant, prehistoric moron (not to mention hypocrite) it suits you better!

  • rkb100100

    A&E is private property. What they do is their business. What I’m troubled about is the cultural atmosphere being influenced by enrichment-seeking modern day witch-hunters and trouble makers to such an extent that fear permeates the public sphere.

    I commend Mr. Robertson for speaking on his faith, especially at the cost it has in this country.

  • Gay Veteran

    no jaxon64, we believe in being FREE.
    perhaps you would be more comfortable in a more religious country? maybe Saudi Arabia

    • guessing

      ha, free… more like a slave to your own thoughts urges, no self control.

      • Gay Veteran

        self control? LOL, that’s funny when you people have brought us the highest divorce rate in our history

  • Gay Veteran

    gee, I share that trait with a lot of you heterosexuals.

    • hendrix

      how do you know? You are a dikksukker and you wouldn’t have the faintest idea what heteros do.

      • Gay Veteran

        by your “logic” you wouldn’t have he faintest idea of what gays do.
        logic FAIL yet again

    • William Boyd Spencer

      Actually you don’t. I have never played in the sewer. I have always had more sense than that. I do not get turned on by intestines.

      • Gay Veteran

        man are you ignorant of the sexual practices of your fellow heterosexuals

  • rjburton

    I believe as Phil Robertson believes. I believe in God, His son, Jesus Christ, who died on the cross for my sins, and the Bible which is the written word of God. God placed a very stern prohibition in the old testament regarding homosexual behavior between men. Then in the new testament, God had Paul write in Roman’s and Corinthian’s the consequences of homosexual behavior. Homosexual behavior is wrong and any society that has embraced it has been doomed. Was the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah not enough of an example? So now the bullied has now become the bully. How wrong is that? It is time for the Christians in this country to stand up and draw a line in the sand, otherwise, we will become nothing more than the tepid believers of the City of Laodicea.

    • Gay Veteran

      “…So now the bullied has now become the bully….”

      in other words, now it’s a problem that you can’t be a bully

      “…It is time for the Christians in this country to stand up and draw a line in the sand….”

      please elaborate

      • rjburton

        Before I make any other comments, I want to ask you one thing, how many gay people have you nursed to their death due to AIDS? Helping some one to an easier death due to AIDS is an eye opening experience because it helps you understand how truly precious life really is. Your obnoxious attitude does not belong in the room of a dying AIDS patient.

        • Gay Veteran

          before you ask me the question, ask yourself

          • rjburton

            I don’t need to ask myself, the number is (4) and one of those four was a good friend and a study partner. When he died, he was boxed up and sent back home to South Dakota to a family that hated him because he was gay. So, you see, your little deflection did not work. This all happened in 1988 when AIDS was considered the “Black Plague” among health care professionals. Dying from AIDS related pneumonia is a horrible way to die when there was nothing to treat it with. Since that time, I really began to understand why God placed such great emphasis in Leviticus and why he had the Apostle Paul write such strongly worded passages regarding homosexuality in both the Book of Romans and 1 Corinthians. Homosexuality is just plain wrong in God’s eyes, but Jesus in the Gospel of Matthew tells us not to judge. Many Christians do not even try to think about what sort of emotional turmoil a gay person goes through since society says it is wrong.
            So now I see that the A&E network has reinstated Phil Robertson who never should have been suspended in the first place for simply stating his beliefs and exercising his first amendment rights of free speech.

          • Gay Veteran

            sorry, but worldwide AIDS has probably killed more heterosexuals than homosexuals.
            and this is 2013, not 1988, so medical care has advanced a little bit

            “…Since that time, I really began to understand why God placed such great emphasis in Leviticus and why he had the Apostle Paul write such strongly worded passages regarding homosexuality….”

            hmmmmm, let’s see, AIDS showed up in America in 1981. What, was god busy before then?
            but then the bible got slavery wrong, so what can you expect

            “…Many Christians do not even try to think about what sort of emotional turmoil a gay person goes through since society says it is wrong….”

            you might want to check the polls about that

  • Gay Veteran

    ask your heterosexual neighbors who engage in sodomy

  • Gay Veteran

    so you equally oppose any boycotts started by right-wing groups?

    “…The American Family Association (AFA) is alerting its members to companies who are supportive of GLBT employees and is asking “Christian consumers…to think twice before they patronize companies that support the homosexual agenda.” AFA lists major corporations that have non-discrimination policies that include sexual orientation or that offer domestic-partner benefits for same-sex couples, including Eastman Kodak, Citigroup, PepsiCo., American Airlines, Allstate Insurance, and the Coca-Cola Company….”

  • Tabitha Elkins

    The whole controversy is a load of bollocks. People are losing their rights, being defrauded, our food water and air are being poisoned, but people are worried that a guy lost his reality TV job because he claims to like p#*ssy better than c*#k. Maybe he was trying to be funny… grow up and get real, people, you are all being taken for a ride!

  • hendrix

    how do you know? are you a psychic diksukker?

    • Gay Veteran

      no, but your father is

  • terrence

    Maybe so but it ain’t them that’s showing up in the er at 3 am with light bulbs and other objects stuck up in there butts…

    • Gay Veteran

      LOL, well maybe you need to speak to an ER doc, I’m sure they could tell you lots of tales about what people IN GENERAL do

  • MichaelfromTheEconomicCollapse

    I think that if we all remember to love one another, that will help the conversation move in a more productive direction.

    We are all sinners, and without Yahshua the Messiah (Jesus Christ) none of us would have any hope.

    Michael

    • Gay Veteran

      well I’m a big fan of ““Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”

  • Mark Caldwell

    The disease of authoritarianism aka ‘Petty Tyrant Syndrome’ is one of control, manipulation, and subjugation of anyone or any group opposed to their agendas.

    A society that is full of low information voters creates an environment in which such evil can grow.

    It’s a very sad state of affairs, a very sad time in ‘The Land of the Free…

    • Gay Veteran

      interesting observation on authoritarism

    • cynicfrombc

      Mark, the truth is the exact opposite of what you are propounding. The people with the agenda are the gay activists. They are seeking to silence any criticism of their lifestyle. Indeed, this is a very sad time when people can’t say what they think about the gay lifestyle without risking the loss of their job.

      • Gay Veteran

        oh right, no one out there with an anti-gay agenda

        • cynicfrombc

          The Christian church does not have an anti-gay agenda. We simply confess and uphold the ancient ways.

          • Gay Veteran

            ROFLOL

          • Chuck

            Great discussion, btw – How do you know the “ancient ways” were or are valid? Cannot things become clearer and change for the better over time?

  • Gay Veteran

    oh look, Hendrix’s stupider brother

  • Gay Veteran

    oh my, another medical doctor posting. how lucky we are

  • cynicfrombc

    The shorter lifespan of gays has little if anything to do with experiencing hatred; it has everything to do with performing acts which risk your life. Gay sex is inherently risky because it involves using parts of the body for non-intended purposes.

    • Gay Veteran

      wow, your arrogance is amazing. Being a gay man I think I know what affects our community just a little better than you do.

      • cynicfrombc

        I would hope that you would be better informed but apparently you are not. Just do some basic sleuthing and you will soon find out that gay men live much shorter lives on average than heteros. The reason is very simple: they are using their bodies in unintended ways which make them much more prone to a great variety of infectious disease. This is the simple truth which you can find out by looking around in your gay community or by asking a doctor who works in the gay communities. There truly is nothing gay about being gay. It’s a recipe for misery. When you live in violation of nature, then you will be miserable. It’s guaranteed.

        • Gay Veteran

          you helped create a world of bigotry and hate and then you blame the victim?!?!?

  • Jeff

    Wow..folks just do not realize.how fortunate they are to live in a society with Christians. In Leviticus20:13, God instructs us to kill all homos without remorse. That is old testament Law, before Christ. Jesus saves them through the love of his followers and offers Salvation through repentance of their wickedness. They should repent and praise Jesus as their Savior. There are many countries that do not accept Jesus and follow old testament Law. Homos are killed daily in these cultures.

    • Gay Veteran

      don’t read much history do you

  • Captian Canuck

    Homosexuality is not a choice.

    I live in Davie Village, the most openly gay neighbourhood in Canada.

    I have many gay friends and relatives. They are of all ages. Some of the older generation have recanted horrific stories of the cruelty that they have experienced in their lives.

    I could write a novel on the tales of abuse both emotional and physical that they have endured. Just terrible stuff.

    A few of my friends have even expressed that they were angry that they were born gay. Which to me is sad on so many levels.

    The point is that gay people are born that way. They have not decided to follow some “deviant path”, or to erode
    anyone’s “morality.”

    They cannot change their sexuality no easier than you can change yours.

    And to suggest to them that they should is hurtful, oppressive and ultimately abusive.

    There is nothing wrong with them.

    And for the Christian Right to scream “bullying” at the suspension of Robertson is laughable, especially when this group has been the most voracious at attacking gays and lesbians for years.

    Do I personally think the suspension is fair? No. As a believer in free speech, I acknowledge that we must defend that the right to express all points of view, especially those whom we disagree with.

    But I also realize the larger social context of this suspension. These types of events will be part of the necessary backlash in order for gay people to be treated as equals in society, be able to marry, and ultimately live in peace and as equals.

  • Gay Veteran

    “…Other than when it is being shoved down my thoat like the limp wrist brigade does. We do not care what you do….”
    limp wrist brigade? wow, more Christ-like language, eh.
    But you do care, otherwise you wouldn’t be so fixated on it.
    “…I also do not agree that we need to redefine God’s gift of marriage to appease the amoral.
    you hets have been redefining marriage for centuries. and it all boils down to you lusting to use the power of the state to impose YOUR interpretation of the bible on others

  • Confident Thinker

    I went to Merriam Dictionary (and other convenient word definition sites) and their definition of the word Hate used the following words: ‘extreme dislike’, ‘intense hostility’, ‘loathing’, etc. Phil Robertson did not show any of these while speaking to the magazine. In fact he made it clear he loved all. Disagreement is NOT Hate. He disliked what gays do sexually and labeled that as wrong according to his belief in God and the morality that stems from that belief. But he never said he disliked extremely. So sorry, but you cannot say he hates, he did not meet the full terms of what that definition of hate says. If you are going to accuse someone of hate, look within first , as I see Gay Veteran and Philip Donkin need to do, as they do meet the definition of haters.
    I then looked up bullying definitions in wikipedia, etc. found the following words: : ‘a blustering, browbeating person cruel to others that are weaker’, use of force, threat, coercion, intimidate or aggressively impose domination over others with this behavior that is often repeated and habitual’. Phil Robertson did non of this.
    Therefore, I feel A&E and the gay, lesbian organizations are Hating and Bullying Mr. Robertson as they have met the terms of the definitions perfectly. He is the victim here and all he did was state his feelings. He did not hate or bully. But all I see is a lot of that in these comments. Here is a story for you…The towns people went to stone to death a woman that was caught commiting adultry, a hooker in our modern day, Jesus said to the crowd “he who is without sin cast the first stone”. Well they dropped their stones and walked away, yup we are all sinners. Jesus told the whore…”go and sin no more”. And she did not, because she knew at that very moment she was loved and forgiven. That amazing act of kindness and forgiveness changed her life and she served with a clean, forgiven heart and was very happy and not a whore ..ever!. All I see in this story is two ways of handing this whore. Stoning to death or Love. One worked out for the better. I support freedom of speech and support freedom of religion. I will continue to believe in the Bible and use my speech to explain why I believe it is true. I support Phil Robertson. I hope he goes to another network then A&E will loose a lot of money for bullying him.

  • Magdiel

    Here is what I think, every true Christian should unite and divide this country, if there has to be a civil war so be it. On our side we remain with the conservative and Bible-based principles that created this Nation more than 200 years ago. What do we need to accomplish that? MANLY VIRTUE!!! But oops, it is something very hard to see in men nowadays. Maybe we should start looking back to History and reading about it when Men were MEN!!!