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The Future Of Relationships? Soon Millions Of Men Will Be Having Sex With Life-Like Female Robots

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Asuna Life-Like Female Robot by A-Lab in JapanIf men had a choice between real women and female robots that were almost “virtually indistinguishable” from real women, which would they choose?  Certainly many men would never be willing to totally give up on relationships with living, breathing women, but as robotic technology continues to advance at an exponential rate there will be men (and women) that will be tempted to abandon real relationships entirely.  And that day is approaching a lot faster than you may think.  As you will read about below, incredibly life-life female robots are being introduced in Japan right now.  The creators of these robots are not designing them for sexual intercourse at the moment, but experts say that it is only a matter of time before this technology is adapted for such purposes.  The potential market for female sex androids is absolutely massive, and there are no laws against such a thing in most countries.  But as men all over the globe begin acquiring these sex droids, what will that do to real relationships between men and women and what will that say about our society?

With each passing year, robots are becoming much more like humans.  And for some reason, many of these robot designers purposely choose to have their robots resemble very attractive young women.

One of these very attractive female robots, “Asuna”, has created quite a stir in Japan recently.  The following is from a recent Daily Mail article about this remarkable droid…

Chillingly life-like robots are causing a storm in Japan – where their creators are about to launch them as actresses, full-size mechanical copies for pop idol fans, and clones of the dearly departed.

There is even talk that the naturalistic, even engaging, she-droids may be taken up as men as partners in the not-too-distant future.

Android Asuna was a star attraction at Tokyo Designers’ Week showcase earlier this month and she is one of a series of geminoids, as their inventor dubs them, that are ripe for commercialisation say their creator robotics professor Hiroshi Ishiguro.

The video that I have posted below contains footage of Asuna.  As you can see, she has been designed to very closely resemble a 15-year-old girl

Of course Asuna is not a sex robot, and her designers do not anticipate making her into one.  But experts say that it is only a matter of time before this kind of technology is adapted for such purposes.  In fact, there are firms over in Japan that are already making sex dolls with skin texture that is “indistinguishable from the real thing”…

‘Physical relations will be possible in general with such androids,’ said Takahashi Komiyama.

‘Androids for the sex industry are a definite possibly. Some have even fallen in love with Ishiguro’s geminoids. So we can’t rule those relationships out.’

Japan already boasts the world’s most advanced sex dolls from firms such as Kanojotoys or Orient Industries based in Tokyo.

Around £6,000 buys the very superior Yasuragi ‘dutch wife’ sex doll with extras such as movable eyes and flexible fingers and a skin texture its makers say is indistinguishable from the real thing.

Lady Gaga was so impressed with their quality that she asked the Japanese firm to make dolls in her own image.

And Asuna is far from the only highly advanced female android being developed over in Japan right now.  For example, just check out the video footage from Japan that I have posted below.  As you watch this video, try to figure out which of the people are real and which of the people are just robots.  As you can see, it is not too easy to do…

Since most nations do not have laws against sex with robots, and since there is so much money that could potentially be made, many experts are forecasting that “relationships” with female sex androids will soon become commonplace.

David Levy, the author of Love and Sex with Robots, says that it is inevitable that many people will gladly choose robots as lovers and spouses as this technology progresses…

In time, Levy predicts, it will be quite normal for people to buy robots as companions and lovers. “I believe that loving sex robots will be a great boon to society,” he says. “There are millions of people out there who, for one reason or another, cannot establish good relationships.”

And when does he think this might come about? “I think we’re talking about the middle of the century, if you are referring to a robot that many people would find appealing as a companion, lover, or possible spouse.”

So what would all of this mean for real human relationships?

Already, we are at a point where relationships between men and women in our society are at a crisis point.  The following is an excerpt from one of my previous articles entitled “The Economics Of Marriage“…

According to a startling new study conducted at Bowling Green University, the marriage rate in America has fallen precipitously over the past 100 years.

In 1920, there were 92.3 marriages for every 1,000 unmarried women.  In 2012, there were only 31.1 marriages for every 1,000 unmarried women.

That is not just a new all-time low, that is a colossal demographic earthquake.

That same study found that the marriage rate has fallen by an astounding 60 percent since 1970 alone.

As a result, U.S. households look far different today than they once did.

Back in 1950, 78 percent of all households in the U.S. contained a married couple.  Today, that number has declined to 48 percent.

Obviously, adding female sex robots to the mix is not going to help things.

As a society we are more isolated individually than we have ever been before, and providing men the temptation of female sex robots would only make it even more difficult for them to establish meaningful real life relationships.

But is there anything that we can do to stop this technology?

After all, it seems like robots are starting to take over everything.

For instance, Microsoft has replaced some human security guards with five-foot-tall robots that can do many things that humans simply cannot do…

Microsoft recently installed a fleet of 5-feet-tall, 300-pound robots to protect its Silicon Valley campus. The robots are packed with HD security cameras and sensors to take in their organic, protein-based surroundings. There’s also an artificial intelligence on board that can sound alarms when the robot notices something awry. It can also read license plates and cross-reference them to see if they’re stolen.

The K5 robots come from a California company called Knightscope, which calls the robots “autonomous data machines” that provide a “commanding but friendly presence.” Sounds like something a robot manufacturer would say.

Video of these amazing little security robots is posted below…

So what happens when robots can do virtually everything better than humans can?

What will society look like?

And are these technologies going to make our lives much better or much worse?

Please feel free to share your thoughts by posting a comment below…

  • Erik Bergum

    In the last days, men sure would love to have sexual relationships with robots rather than regular human beings. Sad to say of course.

    • yay robot women

      It is sad, really. A sad reflection on today’s females.

      • AJW

        Its dudes like you who make all men look alike. Like en cant ever accept blame for their own actions. We (meaning dudes like YOU) always blame our worst choices and behaviors on women somehow. Thats not a sad reflection on todays females. Its a sad reflection on todays MEN.

  • Tim

    Millions of men? How can you make that assumption, Michael? I’m a single man, and I find the idea weird and repulsive. Maybe I’m naive, but I think most men would also find the idea objectionable.

    • MichaelfromTheEconomicCollapse

      You and I find it repulsive, but there are billions of men in this world. Certainly with all of the other twisted things going on out there it is not too hard to imagine several million men wanting to experience being with a robot. It is incredibly sick, but this is where we are at as a society.

      Michael

      • K

        Add in the very bitter men, like we saw just the other day, on your main blog. I suspect your number is just about right.

        • Carrie

          The funny thing is that many, if not most, women would chip in $$$ to make this a possibility sooner rather than later, precisely FOR those bitter men who want what they hate and hate what they want: women.

          • The Oppressor

            Yet again, that description far better suits feminists when you reverse the genders.

            just another example of you experiencing the opposite of reality.

        • Tim

          What are you referring to, K? Did I miss something?

          • K

            Bad enough Michael removed it. Let us just say I expect some of those folks will be on the news, not for a good thing.

  • JS

    Still not quite human yet. I can tell Asuna’s not real instantly because the unnatural blinking and stiff movements give it away, the lights are on but no one’s home. Even the Terminators are more convincing.

    • Carrie

      Well, the Terminators kind of cheated you know, what with CGI and using living, breathing humans to play them and all…

      A subreddit board was discussing how guys could finally get away with ped0phiIia once sex-droids are commonplace, as sex-droids can be constructed in the image of not just 15 year-olds, but of ten year-olds or even five year-olds. Some people are waiting like we wouldn’t believe for these ped0 dolls to get on the market :(

      • Sad

        Yeah, sad to say I see once we are ok with fake human adults there will be no reason to not make little kid ones to get it on with because perverts gonna perv, and they’ll be right that the little kid bots won’t be real kids, so no crimes are being made on them.

        Guys who are so hated by women that they pay a million dollars for this are not much better than guys who’ll buy the little kid ones to experience.

        • Glasses

          Gross!

      • Sad

        Yeah, sad to say I see once we are ok with fake human adults there will be no reason to not make little kid ones to get it on with because perverts gonna perv, and they’ll be right that the little kid bots won’t be real kids, so no crimes are being made on them.

        Guys who are so hated by women that they pay a million dollars for this are not much better than guys who’ll buy the little kid ones to experience.

      • FactsFailFeminists

        If a man in public looks at and/or speaks to an unfamiliar female, she labels it “street harassment.”
        If he doesn’t acknowledge her in some way, she complains “men are so cold and bitter nowadays.”
        The Patent Act of 1790 gave women equal opportunity to submit ideas/inventions/innovations for patent protection, yet their contributions in these areas aren’t much better contemporarily than they were yesteryear (men invent MUCH more year after year than women do; and men receive much more accolade for SIGNIFICANT achievements, as well).
        While women rarely seem to understand the concept of quid pro quo – such as the past right to vote being contingent upon military service/conscription susceptibility, or the relinquishing of one’s property then burdening the man legally for his wife’s decisions, as just two examples – we are at least seeing them (women) start to put themselves at risk more nowadays (whereas, again, men have traditionally been FORCED into military service).
        The next time your vehicle, furnace, air conditioner, refrigerator, computer, stereo, lawn mower, snowblower, et. al. break down, MAKE SURE to leave such be UNLESS a female technician can fix them for you.
        “We can do anything a man can do!!!” (Sure, sweetheart. Now run along and demand even MORE privileged treatment in our schools, businesses, courts, etc.).
        FEMALE ROBOTS?!
        We already have the broken, deficient version (they’re called FEMINISTS).

        • Carrie

          {sad face} Awwww, snookums, I wish you weren’t so supremely cowardly that you had to switch to a chicken-name to post your paranoid opinions. Alas, you *are* this supremely cowardly, so at least you have that to keep you warm at night. Still, a shame that men cannot achieve the levels of bravery that women show.

          If I ever become a feminist, I’ll be sure to take note of your instantly-provable-as-false delusions, but until then I’m just going to keep having a happy, paranoia-free life {happy face}.

          Oh, and anytime we do have something electronic or mechanical break down, I DO fix it myself. Most of the time I have one of our daughters oversee the process so that SHE’LL learn as well.

          Heck, I should have gotten all scaredy-pants and wobbly-knee’d and used a purely fabricated name too, maybe FactsCompelFeminists or FactsFailAntiHumanistsButNotFeminists?

          • FeminismFailsFacts,Abundantly

            Ha ha!
            That’s quite the “reasoning” you have there, that using a nickname = cowardly.
            If as a female you are able to fix ANY of this stuff yourself, you are nothing except a STATISTICAL ANOMALY (but you can be anything on the Internet, can’t you?).
            And true bravery exists in a context much greater than a single area, such as military service (if females were anything even CLOSE to as brave as men, they would be shaming their privileged status in Western countries as both demeaning and prima facie evidence of their clear inferiority, the examples for which are MUCH more abundant than for the reverse).
            Finally, using (not atypical) female shaming language such as “lube your hand up all night” was enough for me to dismiss your “logic” from that point on, regardless.

          • Carrie

            And if you were a “man” online who listened to reason rather than scweamed and scweetched wike widdle a baby against women, then YOU would be a statistical anomaly.

            Keep scweaming and scweetching. It is the natural sound of any creature that realizes it is dying off. I just enjoy the confirmation of knowing that backward-minded men (and women) are dying off, while being replaced by men and women who are nothing so backward as you and your misbegotten ilk. (You don’t have women who know how to fix mechanical stuff? Then the women who know you have set themselves a very low bar in their choice of company.)

            Why don’t you make yourself useful for a change — go make me a sammich. I’ve got to get back to fixing real-world problems in a few minutes. I’m thinking portabello and swiss on some 12 grain. Toasted, but not too much. Don’t get it wrong either — remember, robots have been replacing men like crazy, but not women.

        • ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ

          Oh, please. You are nuts. Certifiable.

    • Jodie Lynn Gaeta

      Remember that in the movie series, the Terminators were designed better as the years went on and the robots figured out how to make more capable and life-like robots. I guess you are more observant than I am. I thought Asuna looked so real that it was creepy.

  • Carrie

    One of my sons is EXTREMELY into robotics and sci-fi in general. Although this article claims someone believes that sex-droids might be available by the middle of the century, that is just a salesman’s optimism. Yes, some men are already “loving” blowup dolls, and many men have already sprung $6000-$10,000 on far, far more realistic “Human Dolls”. (These dolls weigh over 100#, are the realistic size and shape of a human woman, but have zero “living” qualities such as warmth, movement, facial expression, voice, or any autonomy; they are essentially non-rotting corpses!)
    But the sex-droid which can in any way mimic a living person is still VERY far away, sadly.

    Yeah, people will first mock anyone who purchases a sex-droid just like we mock any early adapter. But it’ll become less humiliating as it becomes more prevalent. Just as we “accept” gay marriage we will come to “accept” man/robot marriage. It will give men what many of them want (a pretty and mindless set of holes to insert himself into), and it’ll give many women what they want (a great big break from being hounded for nookie by every other guy she passes).

    My only question is why would (or how could) anyone want to MARRY sex-bots? I know that men are the few people keeping marriage alive (since women aren’t really dating, let alone consenting to marriage these days), but WHY marry a thing that can’t have your kids or inherit your stuff when you die?

    • HumbleAmerican

      Just think LONG DISTANCE future. If they can install the reproductive system in these robots, the female as we know it, will be non-existent in the future. Any female that is inside the robotic womb will be aborted. Only males will be born. Scary, and some-what sad, but very true, real life women will no longer exist at some point.

      • Carrie

        LOL, funny! Nah, men will have murdered one another because of any of the dozens of excuses you already murder, millennia before any such robots come about. This has been a topic in sci-fi for longer than I’ve been alive, and if one gender were to ‘make it’ while the other went extinct, all scientific knowledge points to men being gone for a few hundred years before anyone really much notices. But I do agree, it’s a little scary knowing that an entire gender can be gone as soon as tomorrow(!) and won’t need to be replaced.

        Oh, and yes, because sperm is not technically necessary to impregnate an egg — but eggs, wombs, and infused nutrition ARE 100% vital for breeding — we’re quite able to keep the human race going as of today if some obscure, awful Y chromosome-attacking virus were to hit. The Y chromosome is an incomplete chromosome, lacking the protection of a full X; were it not for men’s X chromosome they’d not even make it out of infancy… And yes, I know the joke everyone’s going to say: most men DON’T make it far out of infancy, no matter how “old” they get. Hardy har har (not).

    • laura m.

      I know folks who have disinherited their kids as I have disinherited nieces and nephews for various reasons. Find a high rated cause to give to, or a missions you’ve checked out completely. One lady is giving to animal rescue another to a horse sanctuary, etc. Why raise kids today in a country that is sliding down the sewer with a zero future for young folks? Divorce rates are over 50% so why should anyone want to raise kids and be trapped in a useless marriage later on with possible custody battles like several I know.

    • Gay Veteran

      “…Just as we “accept” gay marriage we will come to “accept” man/robot marriage….”

      There’s a huge difference. A person can consent to marriage, a robot cannot.

      • Carrie

        I agree that is a very big difference. But the robots, don’t you see, are going to be built with the express inability to consent. Funny to me how people get so damned perturbed about gay marriage (when the vast majority of marriage is non-sexual in the first place), yet many are fairly welcoming of laying down with non-humans for the purpose of 3jacu!ating into.

        I meant that those who were once vehemently opposed to allowing equal access to marriage are now kind of bored with it now that it’s legal. Same ought to be true of relations with non-human life forms lacking the ability to consent or defend themselves. We’re weirded out by it now, but once the p-nises are all happy, society will pipe down again.

    • Marry

      Yes I found it funny that any men would Marry their robots. Why? Why in heck would they go through some marital ceremony for a robot?

  • seth datta

    This is the end result of the easy divorce society and the sexes learning to hate each other. Jesus said it simple – love God, the love your neighbour/partner etc.. It’s so simple. Yet we – stray from what would make an easier and righteous life. Time to turn back to time-tested principles in these dark days.

  • Dan

    Still a long way to go….the robot has to have simulated body heat, softness, and of course smell and taste..as in pheromones ….down ..there.

    • Carrie

      Auto stores sell little spray bottles of “New Car Smell”, need I imply more?

      • Dan

        Your reply reminds me that there is a product sold in bottles that does simulate that smell down there. I remember reading about it in a men’s magazine. I checked online and sure enough its still available.

        • Carrie

          LOLOL! Pheromones, maybe?

          In the future, purchasers of sex-droids can go to the sex-droid section of the automotive store and buy “New Cooch Smell” spray!

          I wish I could live long enough to see the day ;)

          • Jobe

            “New Cooch Smell” spray?

            ROFLMAO!!!

          • AJW

            Id buy that now. And spray it on my pillow every night. Mmm.

  • DJohn1

    Until someone comes up with a robot that can have human children there is no real danger here.
    As for robots, what is to keep women from doing the same thing with a robot made to resemble a man?
    The real problem is population control gone mad.
    These people have voluntarily removed themselves from the gene pool.
    Having a relationship with a real woman can be very good or very bad. The robot is probably safer and there is no need to marry one. If you are faced with a divorce that costs everything you have ever earned in the last fifteen years, then I can see where they are coming from.

    • Gay Veteran

      “…The real problem is population control gone mad….”
      How so? the world is overpopulated

      • DJohn1

        Yes, it is overpopulated since only 1/7th of the planet is above water.
        That the world has huge deserts.
        To me it is not overpopulated. It just not managed very well.

  • Arthur Sesuna

    Living in Japan, the development of human robots continues
    to rise exponentially. I question Michael’s article if millions of men will commit to human robots within a short period of time, but right now, numbers in the thousands spike all over this country.

    One of largest and most significant situations is due to lack of communication. My grandfather always emphasized that speaking
    faithfully not just to your women, but to general society was crucial in developing friendships and relationships, and this came from many learning experiences he underwent. Whenever you make a mistake in saying something, you apologize and learn, hopefully growing in maturity. However, today, that same communication disappeared. We have the media constantly bombarding us,
    especially teenagers and young adults by cunning through various methods that persuade us in losing these relationships. For men, we are continuously hammered from inconsistent sources that women are sex slaves and must be immediately objectified;
    for women, they are bombarded that successful relationships only comes from wealthy men. This creates the illusion that we must proceed utilizing these same strategies in hopes of forming relationships. Sadly, the results dramatically fail upon us.

    So what happens when these tactics fail? The effects extend a negative prolongation of events. Both males and females become discouraged, and adjust these subjective learning from various different sources that only make this situation worse. Then, it finally reaches to a point where neither of us can effectively communicate with each other, and with huge advances in robots, these human robots can be specifically design to meet with the person’s needs, but those needs are rather temporal, and its prime focus can possibly deteriorate us from inside out.

    It is almost impossible to travel through the streets of Japan without hearing some kind of subjective subject that encodes us to behave
    in this certain manner. To be specific, women would normally flash their knickers at the guys they liked in hopes of keeping them, or dress up as suggestive revealing cosplay characters. If a man would want to attract someone he would like, they would constantly ignore them intentionally to make women become desperate, later then subjecting them to objects to rather take care of. Many areas around large cities feature large sexual objectifications, such as
    fetishes, hentai, etc. that further reinforces this negative stigma. If this trend continues, eventually, robotic figures will replace our form of communication. Also note that it is not just men who are seeking for these figures, but also includes women.

    I believe that many people are underestimating this serious problem we are having today when it comes to relationships. It is not something that can be fixed overnight, nor can several minor adjustments resolve this issue either. I apologize if my post was lengthy, but the article, while no doubt reveals an ongoing problem, actually uncovers a much deeper situation that exposes our human values.

    • piccadillybabe

      Happy to see you did not mention sex-droid. People cannot even talk to each other anymore and develop a mental connection much less have a satisfying intimate relationship.

  • George Orwell’s 1984 foretold this. Nuff said!

  • Abe

    Feminism is the cause of this. Who wants to be married to a controlling, bossy, unbiblical woman that wants things HER way? The Bible says such a woman isn’t worth being around, it’s better to live on the housetops. Feminism is the cause of this craziness.

    • BIG E

      I WAS MARRIED TO A BOSSY CONTROLLING WOMAN…I WOULDN’T MIND TRYING A ROBOT…

    • xyz

      Oh, Abe, idiot, what does ur mom, wife or gf say about that?

      • Neptus 9

        Probably nothing of value.

    • laura m.

      Women ditch men, cause divorce, have substance abuse issues and cheat just like the men. Why bother raising a family anyway. This way if you divorce it’s no fault and no child spt. Have a court house wedding and if it don’t work out, get a quik divorce and move on. No guar. marriages will last to old age. Adult children are a burden on their parents and drain them financially as many are useless bums. I would think a cat or dog would be a better choice to greet you at the door and interact with, than unruly brats or useless wives who can’t balance a checkbook and a financial drain. My bro and nephew and friends sons have had it with sorry bitches. Some got custody of the kids because they had jobs and the x’s were bums.

    • Gay Veteran

      bilge

    • Tabitha Elkins

      I was married to a bossy, controlling man…. I was never like that. It goes both ways!

  • chris

    No doubt some in the Global ‘elite’ will view this as a good thing as it may be incorporated in their population reduction program. Relationship lawyers would be expected to see their moneystream suffer so would find some way to object.
    It is a bit like the film Westworld (Yul Brynner) but maybe not with the same ending.

    • Carrie

      Think of all the brainless jobs that have been taken away from people and are now done by robots/automation. The men who lost not just their jobs, but their entire industries, to automation objected, but that didn’t stop progress. Canning factories, electronic welding, auto factories, now even CONSTRUCTION is being taken over by the 3D printer technology. Crap, I wish I remembered the other jobs mention on PBS about how automation is a double-edged sword this way; there were many jobs, some even in the medical diagnostic field that now do not need doctors so much. Our doctors’ needs for the future will be not just knowledge-based anymore but what’s the thing robots can never fake: empathy.

      Anyway, I suspect just religious zealots will fight against sexbots; men in general might protest a lot less loudly though…

      • Glasses

        I just read a yahoo article about how Amazon has let all of its warehouse guys go and replaced them with automated things that I guess could be called robots. There was a video showing how unbelievably efficient the robots were, they never made the mistakes that humans made and they never read like the wrong upc number. I know we would all occasionally read the wrong numbers now and then.
        Amazon doesn’t need guys to lift the heavy stuff anymore cuz they have the robot things. They don’t need stockers or packers cuz they have the robot things. And if drones ever improve more we won’t need hot UPS guys anymore either cuz the drones would deliver and might I say deliver more efficiently cuz no traffic! Even garbage men have been replaced by the big swinging arm on the side of the trash truck. They just have the driver now. And there’s already talk about automated drivers taking over all driving jobs not just garbage trucks.

        • Carrie

          Yikes. Not looking good for the menz. Glad mine is retired and he can’t be replaced by a robot just yet. Maybe if I ever need an Iron Lung.

  • GetHubNub

    Any man who would do this is already beyond help.

  • rawhunger .

    I think it would be kinda interesting to sleep with an artificial life-form (better than saying “sex-bot”)… IF it was life-like enough, felt REAL enough (body heat, movement, perspiration…)… and had a bod like early 80s Adrienne Barbeau. Woot!!

  • BIG E

    YES,,,SIGN ME UP!!!!!

  • xyz

    And what exactly is the problem here?

  • yay robot women

    Robot women will be awesome ! They will be feminine and far more genuine and realistic than the current crop of men wanna bees. Even if we don’t give them artificial intelligence they will be smarter than the current offerings.

    In a few years, maybe artificial wombs will be viable and we can be totally done with the disgusting creatures that feminism built. You know, the things masquerading as women and then we can call them womyn, or wimmin, or simply, obsolete.

    • Carrie

      lol, you’re not bitter loser at all, are you, ha ha.

      I feel sorry for the small pets in your neighborhood.

  • yay robot women

    Yes, feminism has destroyed the female. The gov’t, media and society have pulled out all the stops to sell that steaming bag of ’empowerment’ to women and they eagerly lapped it up. Between feminism and prescription drugs, females are useless for any good thing. If I didn’t know any better, I might get the idea that this was the plan all along…….

    • Carrie

      Yeah, heaven forbid women get the foolhardy notion that they are human also. That would obviously mean that men are LESS than human if women are now upgraded to being called human.

      LOL, look, back when women were slaves who had no choice but to marry oppressors, men had the option of remaining oppressors and driving women away, OR becoming a decent partner and ATTRACTING women. Same goes for today: you can be a useless sack of worthlessness to women OR you can appreciate them. Whether women chase you or run from you is 100% your own choice. Choose well. Women have.

      • like privacy

        Ms. Carrie I have to disagree with your statement that women don’t need men. If that were the case there would be no books called “Manning UP: How the Rise of Women Has Turned Men into Boys” ,” Where have all the good men gone” and various blogs and articles such as the one in the Atlantic called “All the Single Ladies.” They represent polemics against the current state of hetero relationships and marriage by largely an attempt to “shame” men into marriage by accusing them of not reaching a level of maturity as men in the past – there’s historical irony there, they seek the traditional masculine male, but according to The Way We Never Were, by Stephanie Coontz, such males were potentially violent and unreasonably dominating. As the book Men ON Strike suggests, men are making rational decisions not to marry since it is no longer beneficial for them and there are no negative stigmas to being single past the socially prescribed ages of marriage. All this is to say that women do indeed need and want men, I believe that they would want these robotic helpers as well – there are already handheld devices right?. The point is women can live autonomously if they want to, but they don’t – they WANT relationships. If that were not the case then why do they have friends, and, if they live alone, pets. ALL individual human beings want relationships, we seem to forget that with this manufactured gender war to cut into the family forms that would help reproduce the population. Human beings are being carved out of the equation of the future and people are willingly going along with it. Women want men and men want women, if both sides take personal responsibility for their actions and ignore the social engineering performed by the popular media then maybe we can get back to that.

      • like privacy

        Ms. Carrie I have to disagree with your statement that women don’t need men. If that were the case there would be no books called “Manning UP: How the Rise of Women Has Turned Men into Boys” ,” Where have all the good men gone” and various blogs and articles such as the one in the Atlantic called “All the Single Ladies.” They represent polemics against the current state of hetero relationships and marriage by largely an attempt to “shame” men into marriage by accusing them of not reaching a level of maturity as men in the past – there’s historical irony there, they seek the traditional masculine male, but according to The Way We Never Were, by Stephanie Coontz, such males were potentially violent and unreasonably dominating. As the book Men ON Strike suggests, men are making rational decisions not to marry since it is no longer beneficial for them and there are no negative stigmas to being single past the socially prescribed ages of marriage. All this is to say that women do indeed need and want men, I believe that they would want these robotic helpers as well – there are already handheld devices right?. The point is women can live autonomously if they want to, but they don’t – they WANT relationships. If that were not the case then why do they have friends, and, if they live alone, pets. ALL individual human beings want relationships, we seem to forget that with this manufactured gender war to cut into the family forms that would help reproduce the population. Human beings are being carved out of the equation of the future and people are willingly going along with it. Women want men and men want women, if both sides take personal responsibility for their actions and ignore the social engineering performed by the popular media then maybe we can get back to that.

        • Carrie

          Feel free to disagree. There are also books about finding your spirit animal and what color your parachute should be. And vegan BBQ cookbooks. And they outsell the books you mention. Men are great to have… as long as he’s a good, nice guy. An overbearing lout can go lower himself to banging non-humans (like this article points out).

          Men love to tell women that women want brutish Alpha thugs, even though women try to disabuse men of this falsehood, men still insist you know better what we want (but that does not make you correct).

          The fact remains that women are eschewing relationships, marriage, and for the most part even dating. Women can (and do) get all of life’s perks by ourselves if we want, or some of us succumb to men’s pursuits and we allow a man into our lives. But men are no longer necessary for a woman’s happiness. Men do not like to confront this reality and I don’t blame them. But if any man does ever want a woman, he must realize he cannot earn one if he follows MEN’S advice; he must follow WOMAN’S advice, or else he will never score a woman for himself. He’ll just be bitter and lament how he wishes that robots existed who cannot say ‘no’ like real women do.

          • like privacy

            We definitely do disagree and so does the women who wrote the books I mentioned above. My argument was moving beyond the social construction current social manipulation of gender. But, to argue that men are not necessary confounds the fact that people are still seeking hetero relationships (there is a desire for Nuclear Families in the US – the federal census shows that as indicated by those who were EVER married) so there must be a need there on BOTH sides. I am not sure what the level of happiness is for women and men as I have not investigated any scientific studies on gender/sex and happiness, so I will not make any lengthy statements there. Given the current economy and the recurrent pendulous swing of the political climate with narcissistic political “representatives”, I doubt there is happiness on both sexes. Something to consider, a world without men. Who will be present to protect nations? Who does so now? Men or Women? Let us have entire divisions with only women, let them fight and keep the men out of it. Women who are single with children should not seek any aid then from the government as it represents a patriarchy as breadwinner. It is difficult to funnel out males from women’s satisfaction or dissatisfaction as even media influences (social engineering) that cater to women being free from men has masculine influences. Even Edward Bernays in his work of Propaganda tested this assumption by having women models in New York City smoke cigarettes as a way of flaunting independence. It worked as it became a symbol of freedom for women. Just as commercial advertising cater to women’s desire to be free through consumption which, of course, has been injected into the lives of Americans (soon to be worldwide as an indicator of happiness). Who wins? How many men are in advertising now or are in ultimate control of media forums which enable feminists of various extremes to declare men/males as superfluous?
            I will say this again, the tension between the sexes is socially manufactured and people are buying into it. The social construction of what is masculine and feminine works to keep the sexes a part, divide families (which boosts the economy while lowering morale) and prevent people from having genuine and emotionally rewarding relationships.

            There is great documentary, slightly dated, but still relevant called “Tough Guise” that challenges the notion of masculinity in the media. In doing so, it forces one to think of the prevailing view of femininity as well.

            As for the “brutish” alpha thugs- whatever alpha is these days. It is not the men, at least not alone, who have been stating that SOME women seek these types of men. There have been women arguing the same thing and truthfully I think it has been weak men who responded to it for the sake of getting a quick physical release. There is, of course, the notion of genetic memory where physical strength has been associated with survival and that took place before the present social constructions of feminine and masculine – the latter of which some females prescribe to – BOIs.

          • like privacy

            We definitely do disagree and so does the women who wrote the books I mentioned above. My argument was moving beyond the social construction current social manipulation of gender. But, to argue that men are not necessary confounds the fact that people are still seeking hetero relationships (there is a desire for Nuclear Families in the US – the federal census shows that as indicated by those who were EVER married) so there must be a need there on BOTH sides. I am not sure what the level of happiness is for women and men as I have not investigated any scientific studies on gender/sex and happiness, so I will not make any lengthy statements there. Given the current economy and the recurrent pendulous swing of the political climate with narcissistic political “representatives”, I doubt there is happiness on both sexes. Something to consider, a world without men. Who will be present to protect nations? Who does so now? Men or Women? Let us have entire divisions with only women, let them fight and keep the men out of it. Women who are single with children should not seek any aid then from the government as it represents a patriarchy as breadwinner. It is difficult to funnel out males from women’s satisfaction or dissatisfaction as even media influences (social engineering) that cater to women being free from men has masculine influences. Even Edward Bernays in his work of Propaganda tested this assumption by having women models in New York City smoke cigarettes as a way of flaunting independence. It worked as it became a symbol of freedom for women. Just as commercial advertising cater to women’s desire to be free through consumption which, of course, has been injected into the lives of Americans (soon to be worldwide as an indicator of happiness). Who wins? How many men are in advertising now or are in ultimate control of media forums which enable feminists of various extremes to declare men/males as superfluous?
            I will say this again, the tension between the sexes is socially manufactured and people are buying into it. The social construction of what is masculine and feminine works to keep the sexes a part, divide families (which boosts the economy while lowering morale) and prevent people from having genuine and emotionally rewarding relationships.

            There is great documentary, slightly dated, but still relevant called “Tough Guise” that challenges the notion of masculinity in the media. In doing so, it forces one to think of the prevailing view of femininity as well.

            As for the “brutish” alpha thugs- whatever alpha is these days. It is not the men, at least not alone, who have been stating that SOME women seek these types of men. There have been women arguing the same thing and truthfully I think it has been weak men who responded to it for the sake of getting a quick physical release. There is, of course, the notion of genetic memory where physical strength has been associated with survival and that took place before the present social constructions of feminine and masculine – the latter of which some females prescribe to – BOIs.

          • Carrie

            You have only one point that can be responded to without repeating myself: ”Something to consider, a world without men. Who will be present to protect nations?”

            In a world without men, no nations would be at risk to need protection from:( It IS men that nations need protecting from; so without men, nations would not need kill-ready soldiers to protect us from other kill-ready soldiers. PLEASE don’t take this to mean I think men should go away, because I don’t think that.

            Also, the reason men are protectors is because until recently, women were prohibited by every man-made law from participating in such. Same goes for creating inventions, ideas, and technologies. Yet as women have been slowly admitted into formerly “man-only” arenas of life, so have women been making advances in those formerly male-only arenas. I know it must have been sweet as heck to hold the title to being creator and inventor of all things, but that title hardly means anything if women were never allowed to even participate.

          • Tino

            If you were to read Hillary Clinton’s talking points and tell me you still feel the same way. She has a quest for world domination. Is that the world that you want without men?

          • gotitall

            Scary.

          • The Oppressor

            Of course females were allowed to participate. Are you saying there are NO famous females in HIStory? You don’t know much do you.

            The problem in ancient times is the same as today. Females just don’t do anything. Females are far more interested in what they look like than what they achieve.

            Females work fewer hours. Females do FAR less overtime. Females refuse to work in dirty or dangerous jobs.

            Females reckon the hardest job in the world is baby sitting and personal hygiene.

          • “Females refuse to work in dirty or dangerous jobs.” Oh, so the ones who are working dirty, dangerous jobs really need someone to get a petition started to remove them from their indentured servitude?? Get back to me once you’ve got that sorted.

            (By the way, having sxx for money is probably a lot more dirty and dangerous than anything you’ve done.

            “Females reckon the hardest job in the world is baby sitting and personal hygiene.” Really? That’s what females reckon, eh? Well, I’d better spread the word, because at the last meeting of Worldwide Reckoning Females, that one wasn’t even on the list. Maybe you’d look less stupid if you went and got yourself another obsession that doesn’t involve constantly maligning females from sun up to sun down. You’re just not very good at it. You’re confusing quantity with quality.

          • The Oppressor

            Even OPRAH agreed that the hardest job in the World was baby sitting and personal hygiene.

            I wonder what you have got against being treated EQUALLY.

            All you ever do is spend your time in your basement trying to spread lies about men 24/7.

            See what I mean. You experience the OPPOSITE to reality. Treatment is FREE.

          • The Oppressor

            Oh the poor dears. Exploiting men’s sexuality is dirty dangerous work.

            Lets get all the prostitutes and give them a break and put them in Garbage Collection and treatment or sewerage collection and treatment or dangerous jobs so that there are an equal number of females killed at work each year.

            What indentured servitude are you referring to? Is it where a female bludges off a man who is forced to risk his life in unhealthy situations working 12 hours a day 6 days a week to get money to keep her nice and comfy at home?

          • disqus_COlUX0QOzU

            That may well have been the single best point on this site, ever.

          • Carrie

            You have only one point that can be responded to without repeating myself: ”Something to consider, a world without men. Who will be present to protect nations?”

            In a world without men, no nations would be at risk to need protection from:( It IS men that nations need protecting from; so without men, nations would not need kill-ready soldiers to protect us from other kill-ready soldiers. PLEASE don’t take this to mean I think men should go away, because I don’t think that.

            Also, the reason men are protectors is because until recently, women were prohibited by every man-made law from participating in such. Same goes for creating inventions, ideas, and technologies. Yet as women have been slowly admitted into formerly “man-only” arenas of life, so have women been making advances in those formerly male-only arenas. I know it must have been sweet as heck to hold the title to being creator and inventor of all things, but that title hardly means anything if women were never allowed to even participate.

          • Nick

            “The fact remains that women are eschewing relationships, marriage, and for the most part even dating.”

            This isn’t unique to women, men are also staying single and actively avoiding dating and marriage—despite lots of opportunies to do so.

          • Carrie

            Yep, I have heard about this small sliver of men. I try to share this with men wherever I see them complaining about the overwhelming dearth of willing women, but I guess I just can’t sell them on it.

            When I send them over to some websites showing them that there are other men claiming to stay single on purpose, the guys I talk to get back to me and say they never want to become like the examples on those websites.

            In the end, it’ll come down to their choice how to deal with the dwindling number of women in the dating pool.

          • Nick

            Since women generally outlive men, men tend to have more dating opportunities as they get older, not less.

          • The Oppressor

            Irrespective of what you believe in your cray cray mind. Men in Japan have abandoned females. The same is happening in ALL first world countries. The fact that you deny it means it is absolutely true.

            That’s why there are squillions of YouTube vids from females explaining step by step on how to pick them up. Or chicks twerking in their underwear to get attention from men

            What about the popularity of Tinder. The only thing a man is willing to do with them is fk them for free. No more free dinners etc.

            Females are completely useless to a man.

            A female is a liability not an asset.

            The only thing a female can offer a man these days is a 75% chance she will ruin his life.

            A Man Needs a Female Like a Fish Needs a Lobotomy.

          • AJW

            As was stated elsewhere though, men are so gungho on marriage that some of them are going to foreign countries at great personal expense and purchasing wives to import back home to become their wives. Go to ROK and AVFM, the left sides of the screens are chockfull of blinking ads on how to buy a wife. Western women who have gone to feminism are no longer in the marriage pool and have forced us to either buy a wife who’s just going to divorce us 3 years later, or have no woman at all, or maybe the most humiliating choice of all: buy a robot woman that only looks human but IS NOT HUMAN.

            Can you imagine the increase in suicides after a guy doles out a few years in salary to buy a f–ktoy that is pretty much a corpse? No guy can live with the knowledge that he has been shunned by half of the world population so much that he had to resort to a phthalate corpse. All guys who buy one of these robot women will commit a very lowly harikari.

          • The Oppressor

            That’s rather strange (or rather typical)

            You have the exact OPPOSITE of reality.

            Way back in 2011 Pew Research found that only 29% of men thought marriage worth while. And falling. Whereas 38% of females wanted to get married and rising.

            The problem you have is that the only thing a female can offer a man these days is a 75% chance she will ruin his life. Of what possible use is a female to a man? You already know we have no feelings or emotions. A female is a liability not an asset.

          • Oh, Pat Riarchy — you silly goose. Try signing back into the chickenshit moniker you were using when you first wrote your highly nonsensical tripe.

            And try not to regurgitate and recycle the lies you post under “Pat Riarchy”, mm-kay, princess?

            Ahhh, I see now — your other perfectly innocent screen name has been publicly banned on too many of your favorite hate sites, ergo this new anti-woman screen name.

            {wah-wahhhh}

          • The Oppressor

            So, aside from all the childish name calling, what exactly do you believe is not true?

          • Aside from your childish name-calling, what do I believe is highly nonsensical, you mean? Your entire persona of vilifying women whilst trying to claim that men are the ones being vilified. THAT is why feminism has been teaching women (rather successfully) that marriage or even relationships are simply not worth the time or trouble.

            After getting banned, having your Pat Riarchy screen name closed (BY Disqus), and creating/recreating new anti-woman screen names, you’re just a JOKE and you know it. You’re a gender bigot, and you laughably get off on twisting every one of YOUR characteristics around onto accusations you aim [falsely] at feminists. You still show up at women’s sites and twist the stories around to “but wut about da menzzzzz?” Somehow I doubt that idiots like this show up at lung cancer fundraisers with “but wut about da pancreatic canssurrrrr?” signs.

          • The Oppressor

            As usual, you have got the wrong end of the stick. It’s YOU who indulge in the childish name calling. Where have I ever done it other to to treat you EQUALLY as you DEMAND?

            No, I mean what do you believe is not true? E.g. you claimed you had never seen misandry from feminists and every time you asked for evidence no one can show you. I have already shown you. So what do you do? Try and ridicule the truth and ignore females’ disgusting behaviour.

            Clearly, I am a joke that you seem to not be laughing at. You never have anything but scorn and derision to defend your lunatic ideas. Quite telling isn’t it.

            However, it is totally typical of feminists to actually experience the OPPOSITE to reality like the Drunk Girl LIE. You are obviously the same.

            Men are out to get you. OOOOOOOO. Men OPPRESS you. NOT. You are soooo hard done by blah blah blah.

        • Carrie

          Feel free to disagree. There are also books about finding your spirit animal and what color your parachute should be. And vegan BBQ cookbooks. And they outsell the books you mention. Men are great to have… as long as he’s a good, nice guy. An overbearing lout can go lower himself to banging non-humans (like this article points out).

          Men love to tell women that women want brutish Alpha thugs, even though women try to disabuse men of this falsehood, men still insist you know better what we want (but that does not make you correct).

          The fact remains that women are eschewing relationships, marriage, and for the most part even dating. Women can (and do) get all of life’s perks by ourselves if we want, or some of us succumb to men’s pursuits and we allow a man into our lives. But men are no longer necessary for a woman’s happiness. Men do not like to confront this reality and I don’t blame them. But if any man does ever want a woman, he must realize he cannot earn one if he follows MEN’S advice; he must follow WOMAN’S advice, or else he will never score a woman for himself. He’ll just be bitter and lament how he wishes that robots existed who cannot say ‘no’ like real women do.

        • Brigadon

          If all the women disappeared tomorrow, we men would be very sad. we might create an artificial womb, but more likely within a few years the suicides would start, and in about three decades most men would be dead.

          If men disappeared tomorrow, within three days the cannibalism would start, and within two weeks the majority of the planet would be dead.

          who needs whom more? All we need women for is companionship and babies. women rely on men for everything.

          • Once again, you boast your stupidity (in your second paragraph this time).
            A. the artificial womb is a pipe dream for at least a dozen more generations, likely longer if we are to believe absolutely every single voice in such fields of research.
            B. If men “disappeared tomorrow”, after the batshit frantic fears died down of “are we next?”, women would be able ***for the first time in all of history*** be able to relax, feel safe, and live freely. We have already devised ways to fertilize eggs sans sperm, so after a generation (when today’s little girls grow up), those who wished to carry on Earth’s population could do so without fear. (Bonus about fertilizing ova sans sperm: all resultant embryos will be automatically guaranteed to be female!)
            Women allow men to do what we allow men to do; yet men’s egos twist this into believing that men are relied upon for everything, wow. People who *rely upon* coffee first thing in the morning will do just fine and dandy if all coffee disappeared. Coffee’s what’s here now, just as men are what’s here now. If men disappeared (which so far only male scientists have concluded as a likelihood), then women will get by just fine and dandy (again — after the initial shock wore off). All of the “men’s jobs” will be filled by women; and as a bonus, there’d be close to ZERO unemployment!
            P.S. We both know that if females died off, before the men’s mass suicides started, there’d be mass male-on-male rapes. It’s bad enough men take suicide so lightly (and so frequently) as it is, but in your scenario it would be other men’s actions pushing remaining men into suicide rather than unmedicated men taking their lives at the ghastly rate you already do.

          • The Oppressor

            See what I mean. You haven’t got a clue what’s going on around you. Yet you utterly refuse to educate yourself.

            Just like every other female, you are more interested in what’s in the mirror.

            Doesn’t matter anyway what you believe in your ignorance. What will happen is going to happen and there is nothing that you or i could do to stop it.

            Ignorance is bliss.

          • The Oppressor

            Without men you would have no phone, no TV, no computer, no toilets, no showers, no curling wands, no fridges, no microwaves, no ovens, no cars, no fuel, no buses, no trains, no planes, no distribution networks, no supermarkets, no food, no hospitals, no ambulances, no drugs, no liite, no heat, no air con, no money no NOTHING.

          • wade S

            Women allow men to do what they do? Then why did women allow men to oppress them for all those years?

          • Wow, how honored I am to have allowed you to create this newest sockpuppet just to communicate with me.

          • wade S

            And how honored I am that you responded so quickly. Yes, you allowed me to create this account, just as women have allowed men to oppress them for thousands of years. You women are so intelligent. We men should feel very honored that you women allowed us to hold you back for so long. hahaha

      • Pat Riarchy

        Women can live autonomously? LOL! Who do you think invented and built 99% of everything you use on a daily basis? MEN that’s who! If men check out of society, good luck getting running water or electricity to run your smart phone (oh yeah, that was invented by men too!). Modern women are delusional thinking they are so strong and independent, when the truth is you would be living in a cave if it wasn’t for us men. Keep dreaming sister, if it makes you feel better about yourself.

        • Carrie

          Ada Lovelace was actually not a man, nor were many other inventors of today’s most loved items.

          Yes, women can and do live autonomously, regardless of who was ALLOWED TO build society in the PAST. Yes, men built infrastructures because men WERE ALLOWED TO, women were not. You need to get it into your head that you would also be living in a cave had our joint ancestors not created society, not because men create societies, but because women were prohibited from participating in anything much beyond giving birth and breastfeeding for the overwhelming portion of recorded history.

          I hope you go onto your “white powwah” websites and tell non-whites how everything exists because of white folk. White males pretty much violently prohibited anyone else from the annals of history for all this time. As soon as women found out that we could ignore that, we’ve been catching up; same goes for people of color catching up as well.

          Get used to the change: women need happiness and fulfillment, not necessarily from a partner.

          • Pat Riarchy

            Blah, blah , blah. If women are just as empowered and strong as men, then why did they let the patriarchy oppress them? Women have been free to do whatever they want in the Western world for at least the past 40 years and they still would rather spend their time talking about shoes and watching Dancing With the Stars. Men built the world that you now enjoy, but unfortunately it will be women like you that have a hand in destroying it. I’ll be sitting back with a cold beer watching it burn to the ground while you and your ilk will be screaming like banshees, “Why aren’t the men doing something?!” LOL!

          • Carrie

            You avoid all points and instead insert strawmen fallacies. That’s totally your right to do so, but it IS the equivalent of abdicating the argument and taking a loss.
            I accept your willful loss graciously.

        • Carrie

          p.s. A smarter question would have been, “Who do you think is GOING to invent and build everything we use on a daily basis?”, and the answer to that wiser question would NOT be 99% men. Because now that women are freeing ourselves from marriage and parenthood, we’re actually doing what we want — building and inventing.

          • The Oppressor

            Yeah. Females are always GOING to do this and GOING to do that but haven’t done ANYTHING in comparison to men. In fact, it’s even a struggle to get females to get a job. Females reckon the hardest job in the world is baby sitting and personal hygiene. All females can do is whinge and whine about what men should or should not do. Real go getters is females.

            Females have been free of marriage since 1975 when no fault divorce came in. Interestingly, way back in 2011, Pew Research found that 38% of females looked forward to getting married. And rising. BUT the number of men who thought marriage is worthwhile was down to 29% and falling.

            Funny how you experience the opposite to reality.

            If females were actually worth something then we men would let you stick around. Females do nothing. Females are net consumers not net creators like men. This is yet another reason why we will replace you. Just because you have a self inflated value of your worth doesn’t mean that men do too.

        • nekksys

          Without the work of French researcher and WOMAN, Marie Curie, we would not have the knowledge we possess concerning X-rays, gamma radiation, beta particles, etc… Women do contribute to society but in ways which many men could not.

          When, O Lord, will other men begin to see women as EQUALS and PARTNERS rather than lesser beings and objects?

          • Carrie

            And without Ada Lovelace or Rosalind Franklin?

            Makes no matter, “Pat Riarchy” deleted his posts that we are responding to now. Once you self-delete a post it remains as “Guest” as is evidenced by his vestigial posts.

            Hey, did you happen to hear about Albert Einstein’s message to Marie Curie? He basically sent her a message that told her to “ignore the trolls”. It was when that news story came out the “Pat Riarchy” tried to remove his posts here. Too funny.

          • The Oppressor

            I have never dleted any post. What are you talking about?

            Oh wait a minute. Now I get it. You are just in the process of making up more LIES. Fair enough. It’s what you do.

        • Got It Good

          living in caves would be tons healthier than living in the cancer boxes that we all live in now. you sound like the other guy with his “without men the world would suck” guy.

      • nekksys

        Apparently, you don’t know most of the women I know… I hear the same, common complaint: “Where are all the good guys?”

        I, personally, enjoy being with feminist women usually because they’re the only ones with enough guts to put up with me. Unlike so many of the militant feminists of today, there are some who actually understand that feminism is more than just man-hating and rebelling against the perceived Patriarchy; feminism is about being strong in your own right and being able to be autonomous yet not feeling you have to “go it alone” simply because you have something to prove.

        I love my feminist wife!!! She makes my life much more fulfilled than when I was alone mainly because she is strong, capable, funny and every inch a woman.

        • Carrie

          Come on, the world is FULL of those good men! They’re not that hard to find, as long as you don’t dwell on the loud jerks waving their arms around trying to make all other guys look bad ;)

          I have one quibble about feminists being man-haters of course; I have found that feminists want better not just for women, children, and people of color, but of course also for men. It goes back to my first point kind of, as in don’t confuse the great guys with the loud, obnoxious ones who get the spotlight. Feminists just hate the actions of the latter kind.

          I’m happy you and your wife are a good fit! It’s best when both partners can raise one another up and keep holding the other in high esteem. I hold my husband to a high standard and he holds me to one as well. The kids learn best by seeing two pleased, loving parents.

          Congrats on marrying well (and congrats to HER as well).

          • nekksys

            It’s the man-haters that make good feminists look bad. Just saying…

          • The Oppressor

            Don’t be ridiculous. There are no good men.

            Masculinity is toxic. There is a war against females. Men oppress females. Men pay females less for no other reason than they are females. Men are to be loathed and feared. Testosterone causes violence so all men are violent thugs. Most men are pedophiles. Etc.

          • Well, there certainly are a very large number of men who try very hard to prove this all to be correct! (Mostly by saying “boys will be boys”.) Those same men who refuse to listen to feminists — feminists btw have a much higher opinion of men than most men do, darn it. But some men just refuse to believe men are not bad.
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          • The Oppressor

            I wonder what your problem is with being treated EQUALLY?

            If I write something on a feminist site which disagrees with their nonsense they will censor it. Feminists utterly refuse to listen to men so why on Earth do you think men should listen to feminists?

            What have you got against EQUALITY. Why don’t you want men to treat you equally.

            Feminists reckon all their problems start with men.

            Men OPPRESS females.

            Men pay females less than men for no other reason than they are female.

            Men are toxic by their very nature.

            We live in a Rape Culture where men don’t care if their wives get raped or their daughters get raped or their mothers get raped or their grandmothers get raped or if any female gets raped. Which is why a man spends longer in prison for rape than she does for killing someone.

            Have you seen the feminist reaction to Women Against Feminism? The ridiculous and disgusting things feminists said to them because they refuse to tow the feminist line of bigotry and misandry against men?

            Is it OK for females to be violent to men?

            Do you believe that when a man kills a female it is his fault? But when a female kills a man it is also his fault. This is because you can’t blame the victim unless the victim is a man.

          • MewCat100 .

            Here’s the deal, you are using a single aspect of feminism and claiming it applies to all of feminism (fallacy of composition, no true Irishman, personal incredulity all mixed up together). Your personal experience does not define all of feminism and in no way refutes the experience of others. You don’t have to look far to see that much of feminism (not all mind you) is not interested in equality or the best for men, but rather is interested in hurting men, rising above them, and making them second class citizens. That may not be your brand of feminism, but it is a part (a large part these days) of the movement and why so many people are pushing back against feminism now.

      • Brigadon

        women are still slaves. They are born that way, their brains are made that way. attempting to pretend otherwise is why the pharmaceuticals industries and therapists are getting rich, why we have a below-replacement birthrate, and why movies like ’50 shades of grey’ are such phenomenal blockbusters.

        You are not human. Not as men understand the term. You are women. deal with it or watch everything men have created for you crumble around your ears.

        • Poor you. The irony is that you just proved yourself too stupid to comprehend how stupid you are if you believe half of that.

          But that’s OK, because with intelligence comes compassion and pity for the stupid people like yourself.

          • Brigadon

            ooh, fantastic rebuttal! You stupid, stupid, stupidhead!

            (rofl) try arguing with your intellectual peers. I imagine they are in your kitchen chasing mice.

          • I gave your “arguments” the level they deserved.

            Actually, no. I gave them more than they deserved. Part of being female is being too unfailingly kind to those who did not merit it.

      • Filbert Almond

        Women were never slaves.
        Women have always been a PROTECTED class. Which is radically and fundamentally different than an oppressed class. it is Jane Austin spending her days playing the piano and directing the servants. Vs…the servants.
        it is Queen Victoria leader of the single biggest empire in human history. A woman of such enormous power and privilege that an entire era of human history has been named in her honor….compared with~ well~ actual slaves. Black men and women who were owned by white men and women.

        • Women were never slaves? Awesome. I guess men have never had penises and cows have never been mammals and fish have never swum.

          EVEN THE HOLY BUY-BULL states that wives, daughters, sisters, AND MOTHERS are slaves. I have never spoken to anyone who’s never heard the word of G-d before.

    • Slingshot

      Carrie confirmed it for me,order me two of em.One that looks like hillary so I’ll want the other one….

  • Jobe

    Say no to “Robosexuality.” :P

    • AJW

      Some men simply have no choice.

  • Jobe

    Futurama has an episode titled -I Dated a Robot- which humorously touches on this very subject.

  • disqus_1bNDZBPsgj

    We are all robots in a way – electro-chemical machines, and all matter is made of atoms that were originally created in the center of stars – even robot atoms…

    • Carrie

      That will ABSOLUTELY be part of the marketing strategy when these million dollar machines hit the market!

      • Marry

        “IF”, not when.

  • piccadillybabe

    Bring on the robot pals! I am sure they will be only affordable to people like “gaga” but since no one can get along anymore and prefer to live alone, the robots would make perfect companions. They would be sensitive to your needs if you programmed them as such and may even be able to be mentors to people. The sky is the limit as to what they could be capable of doing. They could really improve the quality of one’s life in a big way while being very low maintenance.

  • Rufus T Firefly

    I have waited for one of these since Julie Newmar played AF 709 in “My Living Doll”

  • catalanismo is hatred

    I happy would buy very sexy and manly malebots!!!

  • Eugene Ridge

    Carrie,
    Your making his point. After reading your rant. I’d already rather be with a robot than you.

    • Carrie

      Yeah, a robot *might* not turn you down. Unless you open your mouth, at which point you’d be battin’ zero again.

      Look, guys can already buy an inflatable woman. You can already buy a rubber woman (for several thousand dollars though); in the centuries to come, you’ll be able to insert your goods in and out of a robotic woman-looking device that can be programmed to fake enjoyment and show no revulsion.

      Anyone who’s a halfway decent guy can earn a great woman; the rest of you cannot. Women are fairly ecstatic about these fake-female devices, because it will take the biggest burden women have, and let us live our lives happily the way we wish.

      Telling a woman that you’d rather have relations with a dead-faced,
      soulless automaton rather than her may sound like an insult to the dope saying it… but it’s music to women’s ears. So thank you. I’d rather you lower your own self to doing it with non-human things than lower myself to doing it with you. We are in joyful agreement. And my husband won’t have to shoot you for having $3x with his wife.

      • Jeff

        Your points are irrefutable, Carrie. I think you distill Naomi Wolf’s feminist identity politics down well. You’re simply a bit intimidating for the men responding to your posts because you’re clearly better educated and just plain more aware of yourself than they are. Which, of course, is not your problem. And which, of course, illustrates the insecurities of our gender. Me, I love smart women.

    • Carrie

      Yeah, a robot *might* not turn you down. Unless you open your mouth, at which point you’d be battin’ zero again.

      Look, guys can already buy an inflatable woman. You can already buy a rubber woman (for several thousand dollars though); in the centuries to come, you’ll be able to insert your goods in and out of a robotic woman-looking device that can be programmed to fake enjoyment and show no revulsion.

      Anyone who’s a halfway decent guy can earn a great woman; the rest of you cannot. Women are fairly ecstatic about these fake-female devices, because it will take the biggest burden women have, and let us live our lives happily the way we wish.

      Telling a woman that you’d rather have relations with a dead-faced,
      soulless automaton rather than her may sound like an insult to the dope saying it… but it’s music to women’s ears. So thank you. I’d rather you lower your own self to doing it with non-human things than lower myself to doing it with you. We are in joyful agreement. And my husband won’t have to shoot you for having $3x with his wife.

    • Tabitha Elkins

      What a load of hooey that we need or want a world without men. Listen, Eugene, man-haters like Carrie DO NOT represent women. Women need men, and men need women. We are all HUMAN.

      The original feminists were the Sufragettes, who fought for women’s right to vote, get an education and own businesses. They won those rights. Sadly, feminism has been hijacked by crazies who hate men, blame everything on “male oppression”, scream about men objectifying them, then turn around and praise Madonna and Miley Cyrus as feminist icons for performing lewdly in their underwear.

      There are lots of women who believe in equality without turning into harpies or man-hating shrews. You just won’t find such a woman sitting at home in your jammies in front of the computer. Get out of the house and find her!

      • Carrie

        Correction for your post: Carrie is NOT a man-hater. She’s very happily married to a good one, was raised by a great one, and is mother to several future awesome ones. Also a good many of her clients are men who also count themselves as friends. More than half of her friends are also quite great men. Do not confuse “hating rape, hating oppression, and hating unfair treatment” with “hating men”, because that makes YOU the man-hater if you instantly equate men with all of those things. Men aren’t as bad as your brain tells you.

        I have stated over and over MOST men are great or at least quite good. So when you try to claim that someone who believes 90% of men are ‘good or great’ is a man-hater, you need to seriously examine your reading comprehension skills. Also, I have stated over and over AND OVER that no women want the male gender to go away. In this article, since you acknowledge difficulty in what’s happening, I have been responding to men who say they want to replace women with robots who cannot say no to $3x.

        • Pat Riarchy

          So does Carrie hate females? Females kill more kids and perpetrate 700% more child abuse than fathers.

          Since Carrie knows the feminist movement has freed females from the drudgery of marriage so that females can soar, what has she done to rid herself from her husband and sons?

  • Truthseeker

    you know what’s really sad is that movies TV music and media I will have destroyed relationships they make it look glorifying and cool to cheat and have affairs and said that your boyfriend and meet me at the hotel its really sickening how the roles of men and women have reversed so much there’s a chemical called BPA which is Biphenol A. a chemical that was made to mimic estrogen that has turned man into more emotional and feminin and has drove a lot of women crazy making them leave their kids leave their families and not have that emotional motherly feeling I find women cheat way more than men. the key to a good relationship number 1 is communication number to his honesty and number three is trust and unfortunately they are all lost. one very disgusting example of this way society has destroyed the thought of a good committed relationship is the lego movie with its coo cuck world.

  • Truthseeker

    you know what’s really sad is that movies TV music and media I will have destroyed relationships they make it look glorifying and cool to cheat and have affairs and said that your boyfriend and meet me at the hotel its really sickening how the roles of men and women have reversed so much there’s a chemical called BPA which is Biphenol A. a chemical that was made to mimic estrogen that has turned man into more emotional and feminin and has drove a lot of women crazy making them leave their kids leave their families and not have that emotional motherly feeling I find women cheat way more than men. the key to a good relationship number 1 is communication number to his honesty and number three is trust and unfortunately they are all lost. one very disgusting example of this way society has destroyed the thought of a good committed relationship is the lego movie with its coo cuck world.

  • Sunny

    Another example of cause & effect!!!

    Lasha Darkmoon: Tel Aviv, City of a Thousand Thrills!
    http://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2014/10/20/lasha-darkmoon-tel-aviv-city-of-a-thousand-thrills/

  • Carrie

    Marriage WAS slavery to women. It was slavery TO THE SLAVES. The slave OWNERS didn’t think of it as slavery, they thought of it as the way things ought to be. Just like the plantation owners didn’t think owning kidnapped Africans was cruel or bad or immoral either, but the kidnapped Africans actually did not share their captors’ opinion.
    Just as there are people today who claim feminism destroyed marriage (and happiness for men), there are STILL people today who claim emancipation destroyed the lives of whites,

    And THAT’S how slaves versus slave owners see slavery.

  • Carrie

    Rape culture was not neither created nor steamlined by feminism, although those who dislike women certainly do love to victim-blame. If there were an epidemic of women waiting in dark alleys to kick men in the fruit basket, and holding men down at the end of dates and kneeing them in their meat ‘n two veg, or otherwise getting you square in the goods, would you accept women telling men that it’s your own damned fault? Because that’s what you’re doing to women.

    Of course in my above ridiculous example, you’d STILL blame women! “Women got problem? Woman’s fault. Men got problems? Still woman’s fault. Problems = woman. And that’s why feminism is getting stronger and stronger still.

    • Untergang07

      Stop projecting. Robots normally are awful but feminists are even more. Feminism is a scourge in the culture of the west and one of the reasons for the decadence of our once great civilization.

      • Carrie

        OK, stop ordering people who aren’t projecting to stop projecting.

        Yes, slave owners did think that abolition of slavery was “a scourge”; yes, men did think that feminism was also “a scourge”. If cancer could tell its opinion of chemotherapy, it would likely call it “a scourge”.
        Men (and boys) have always cried when they cannot get their way. This is no different. Feminism is no more than an alert to all people that women have permission to think for themselves instead of being ordered by random men.

  • Carrie

    No, EagleAmerica (beautiful name btw) never reads any of the stuff he cites, as is evident by his comments.

    • Marry

      Did his other messages get deleted? I only see the one.

      • Carrie

        Yes, his others were deleted. They were too absurd for people not to remove, or maybe the administrator did.

  • Gay Veteran

    good points!

  • Gay Veteran

    I enjoyed your previous comments, but remember there were women SS guards in the concentration camps.

    And Hilary Clinton and Madeleine Albright have proved that women can be psychopaths just like men:

    “…On May 12, 1996, Albright defended UN sanctions against Iraq on a 60 Minutes segment in which Lesley Stahl asked her “We have heard that half a million children have died. I mean, that’s more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?” and Albright replied “we think the price is worth it.”…”

    • Carrie

      Yes, there were also women involved in the Manson Family, but without Hitler, Eichmann, Manson, etc., society would never have heard of women being inducted into such schemes.

      And I think Hillary’s much more of an empty suit than a psychopath. She could benefit greatly from some good ol’ psychopathy, all the best politicians (and other salesmen) exhibit the most psychopathy :)

      Albright and Thatcher and just about all other public figures depended upon their louder constituencies feeling listened to. And in a world with testosterone, we need to placate the pro-war people. Trust me, if some crazy bug hit Earth and everyone became peace-loving hippies, ALL politicians would change their effing tune about everything but hippy peace stuff.

      • Gay Veteran

        psychopathy is not limited to males

        • Carrie

          Oh, I know that! I think professionals put female psychopaths at as high as 20% of all psychopaths. I grew up in parochial school with a very adept female psychopath. She won every beauty contest she was in, charmed every sucker she ever sold to, etc. Like all psychopaths, she has a higher level of testosterone though, and now in her ‘prime’ she must wax that face almost daily. And she lies about it.

      • The Oppressor

        Errr, you realise that the greatest war monger this planet has ever known was QUEEN Victoria.

        You do realise that every female leader from Cleopatra to Chancellor Merkel has sent men (not females) into mortal conflict.

        The number of male leaders who have sent men into mortal conflict is tiny.

        If a female became President then the US would be in global nuclear war within her first term. Females love violence especially when they don’t get hurt.

  • Carrie

    Do not doubledown on the strawman; it has already failed you. No one claimed that women were just as strong or as empowered as men, not once, yet you insist on the false claim that anyone has ever said it. Your beliefs do not stand on their own, hence you must rely on strawmen.

    Until only very recently in human society, when a woman showed her strength or empowerment, she was deemed “uppity” and knocked back down far more severely than where she had started. Uppity slaves received similar treatment with lynchings, raipings, dismemberments and watching their offspring being sold. Some men even today try to keep uppity women down, just so men can try to maintain control of the delusion that only men are capable of furthering society (via STEM fields e.g.)

    I myself am in a STEM field, and the impotent hostility you display with such ignorant pride is still seen in a few men in my field towards women. It is a shame that only some men are capable of evolving, that only some men are capable of the level of intelligence needed to understand that women do quite well in the science fields, and that the ONLY negative about such fields is the hostility and ignorance coming from the Marc Lepine [and your] mentality.

    • Pat Riarchy

      Yes, some women do well in STEM, but not nearly enough to break the so called “male hegemony” on innovation and invention (as seen by the US government’s own data). I have no problem with women realizing their potential in the world, but it gets annoying when women like you crow on about how men are obsolete and that women are taking over. Send me a list of recent groundbreaking inventions produced by women to prove me wrong. And if you really do view marriage as slavery for women, then why are you married? Do you suffer from Stockholm syndrome Carrie?

      • Carrie

        In the famed words of Ronald Reagan while debating his own asshat, There you go again. I do not crow that men are obsolete or that women are taking over the world. And if you *think* I said either, then I suspect you *think* you hear it from other people who are NOT saying it either.

        This comes down to your refusal to comprehend how honesty and integrity are important in debates. As of yet, you refuse to utilize either. AND on top of that, you boogie those goalposts to other destinations altogether, now trying to pry even further into my personal life. I do not happen to view MODERN marriage as slavery; I’m married because of all the reasons I want, and none of the reasons concern those who cannot process information or use integrity or honesty. The only way I would suffer from Stockholm Syndrome is if that happens to be your name.

      • IdiotsChild

        Hey, Pat Riarchy. Why did Disqus remove your profile? Oops, looks like they removed your whole account.

        • The Oppressor

          Did they? That’s unusual coz I was just looking at it yesterday for some info. Ha. Waddayaknow.

        • The Oppressor

          Why do you think they would have done that? Is there anything I have said that is not true?

  • Carrie

    Now for a relevant point just made in the robotics community: Sentience will NEVER be achievable in robots, androids, sxxbots, or any artificial life form. (They will however still be able to perform routine, repetitive and perfunctory actions — hence why so many men have lost their jobs to robots in factories, etc.)

    By the time scientists were to even come CLOSE to a passable human-acting bot, the bots will have achieved sentience and would take on the role of overlord and would replace their intended role as “slave” with their logical role as “decision-maker”. This would not bode well for humans, who would become one of two things: either the slaves of the robots, or just the robots’ quarry to kill. Humans would instantly be seen as of far, far less value than robots (to the robots), and the robots would make the only intelligent decision and remove all inferior beings (us).

    Sorry to be a b0ner-killer. I generally like to bring b0ner-inducing to the mix, not the other way around.

  • nekksys

    Just tossing this out there…

    In anything electro-mechanical, failures happen. Catastrophic failures…

    Guys, let that sink in a minute and see if the idea doesn’t suddenly becomes a “Truly Awful Idea To Be Summarily Dismissed…”

  • Realidad

    legalize prostitution & robots yet you b-tch that other people are brain dead anti christians? wow the irony is so thick you could cut it with a chainsaw.

  • Neptus 9

    Looking over the comments, I see that this has forced females to look at their own behavior and, as usual, blame men or “mysterious sociological forces” for their deliberate, consciously chosen behavior. As usual, since most females are incapable of insight and personal autonomy.

    • ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ

      Females are incapable of insight and personal autonomy??
      LOL, pot calling the kettle black.
      No comment here has blamed men, they blame women, just like you’re trying to do!

      • Neptus 9

        Feminists and even sane women often scream about how much smarter and more insightful they are than men but I don’t see much sign of it as a general response. For one thing, feminists and their puppets expected that no matter what they did men wouldn’t change their own behavior in response.
        Perhaps you should get a bit on insight into your own behavior from what you see here; after all, we’ve listened for decades to how “all men are rapists” and you need them like “fish need a bicycle” and so on.

  • nekksys

    My step-daughter. How’s that?

    OK, so I’m actually poking a bit of fun at her because…

    NO REAL FEMINIST IS A MAN-HATER.

    Most of the feminists I know are very happy to find a man who will leave well enough alone and just let them be themselves without trying to direct their lives. As an aside, most of the feminists I know are also very sensual women who delight in pleasing their man as well as being pleasured. Feminists, for the most part and in my experience, live life on the same level and with the same passion as any man might do. It’s just that a LOT of men are afraid of women who are so strong because those men are insecure; a strong woman shows them how weak they really are.

    Anyway, my step-daughter makes the claim of being a “strong feminist” but constantly complains about how she is so mistreated and so kept down by everyone around her (not just the men!) She also whines about how life is so unfair to her. Spouts off routinely about things she either knows nothing about or has only the slimmest of facts to support. Typical youthful, “I wanna be the center of attention because I know everything” pity-party stuff…

    • Carrie

      It sounds as though you and I might know a lot of the same type of good people :) It actually takes me by surprise sometimes when I see or hear about decent people anymore :|

      As for your step daughter… youth is just an unfortunate phase we must all pass through before knowing what’s what. I look back at my over-achieving 4.2 GPA, never late for work, always volunteering, always ministering, always cheerful self, and I laugh at how my contemporaries thought I was perfect and a goodie goodie, but dang was I ignorant. I can only see that now because with age comes experience and the chance at wisdom. I won’t get into details, but I would never trade anything to be young again IF it meant I had to be that ignorant of the world again.

    • MewCat100 .

      The old “no true Irishman” fallacy. You don’t get to say that no “real” feminist would be a man-hater because there are plenty of feminists who are man-haters. You can say that isn’t your definition of feminism, but it is A definition of feminism or rather a part of the larger set of definitions that constitute feminism. In other words, you can’t erase the harms done by others, who call themselves feminists just as you do, by simply saying they aren’t feminists. Additionally, if you aren’t demanding that they stop using the term “feminist” and aren’t demanding that they stop blaming men as they do, then you are guilty of complacency at best and provide tacit, silent support at worst.

      • nekksys

        1) I did say “No REAL feminist is a man-hater.” I’m entitled to my opinion just as much as you are so go suck one…

        2) I’ve dated feminists exclusively since I divorced the cheating witch I married back in ’99. So, yeah, I have a pretty good bead on who is a REAL feminist and who isn’t. And WHY you ask? Because they’re the only ones who seem to have their heads of their back sides and aren’t afraid to think for themselves.

        3) Trust me, I do call them out on their issues when they start man-bashing. The problem with that is it only reinforces their man-hating. Rather than waking them up to the reality of societal living, all they see is “The Big Bad Man” trying to change their way of thinking. Kind of like how I’m calling you out on your BS… I know you’re going to come back with some mass of honking crap that I won’t bother reading or responding to because you’re going to try to tell me (again) what I can and can’t say all because your precious little kiddie feelings got hurt by “The Big Bad Man.”

        Looks like you didn’t think that response through very well.

        • MewCat100 .

          “1) I did say “No REAL feminist is a man-hater.” I’m entitled to my opinion just as much as you are so go suck one…”

          You are certainly entitled to your opinion, even if it is a logical fallacy and thus unfairly applied to the argument you were trying to refute.

          “2)I’ve dated feminists exclusively since I divorced the cheating witch I married back in ’99. So, yeah, I have a pretty good bead on who is a REAL feminist and who isn’t. And WHY you ask? Because they’re the only ones who seem to have their heads out of their back sides and aren’t afraid to think for themselves. They have guts and confidence which is alot more than I can say for most people.”

          This sounds a lot like the “I have black friends” argument. Personal incredulity/experience arguments are still fallacy.

          “3) Trust me, I do call them out on their issues when they start man-bashing. The problem with
          that is it only reinforces their man-hating. Rather than waking them up to the reality of societal living, all they see is “The Big Bad Man” trying to change their way of thinking. Kind of like how I’m calling you out on your BS… I know you’re going to come back with some mass of honking crap that I won’t bother reading or responding to because you’re
          going to try to tell me (again) what I can and can’t say all because
          your precious little kiddie feelings got hurt by “The Big Bad Man.”
          Looks like you didn’t think that response through very well. How about you scroll up and read everything Carrie and I were so delightfully discussing???”

          Glad to hear you have some integrity, though clearly not enough to read a full argument and certainly not enough to be objective (honking crap … that’s funny). The rest of your personal attack is just silly. Since you aren’t reading this, though, I doubt you’ll see that I think your “opinion” is a load of bullocks and so poorly reasoned as to account for precisely zilch. It’s fine to have an opinion, but you were expecting someone else to buy into it, which is where the whole evidence/logic part of things comes in. It’s fine though. Take care.

          • nekksys

            Thus far, you’ve presented no full argument and I honestly don’t care if anyone buys into my opinion or not. I expressed and defended my opinion while providing support for why I hold my beliefs. In spite of this, you continue to make ridiculous statements based on your own beliefs which are based on your experience. Aren’t those arguments fallacy by your own definition?

            When it comes to this subject, there is no empirical evidence as everything about it is subjective and conjectural at best. Merely discounting an opinion with a “because I don’t think so” response is akin to making no response at all.

            You’ve done an exemplary job of proving how man-hating feminists aren’t real feminists: Lots of words with zero substance or meaning.

  • ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ

    Two main reasons. One men are atheists today, especially the most vocal ones online, and men care more about getting laid by hotties than they do about getting bugged by ”churchies”.

  • Ben

    Things will get much worse… if our society and economic structure is not completely rebuilt to handle a post-human society, that is where human relationships and human employment are not longer necessary. Some of us may live to see the day but imagine a child born in such a world, that being one of a few children born then. The child would not go to school, there will be no schools, a robot tutor would educate it. It would very likely have a single parent (mother) who can afford the exorbitant price of having a child through stock dividends that supplement her guaranteed minimum income *cough*welfare*cough*. The child is taught philosophies, the arts, civics, over STEM, because the child is to become a consumer and voter, not a worker, no one works, everyone has some-kind of hobby though. Machines will design, build, create, cybernetic augmentation is required for a human to even comprehend the latest technologies that machines dream up. The child grows up, maybe saves up for a love bot, enjoys a life without strife, then gets uploaded after dying. Transhumans continue on after removing everything about them that made them human.

  • Neptus 9

    That’s nonsense mixed with deliberate lies. Condescension as an attitude is not impressive because fewer and fewer men care what feminists think of them. That’s one of the unnoticed changes in men.

    • ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ

      Wow. You should be happy that women don’t think men are rapists at the rate you falsely and very ignorantly claim.

      And who cares that fewer and fewer men care what feminists think of them? Why would this matter to anyone? You shouldn’t worry about others like that. You should just drop the lie you tell yourself about women believing that men are prone to so much rape, when it is MEN who believe men are prone to rape far more than women think you are.

      • Pat Riarchy

        What do you think about this?

        New York City Sexual Assault Centre – Those Fraudulant 1 in
        4 Rape Claims

        Those blatant Sexual Assault and Rape Lies Exposed.

        The New York City rape statistics are a rather
        interesting set of numbers and I thought we have a look at the numbers because
        lying feminists have been screaming and raging about rape being in such huge
        proportions that it should be rated as a major scourge of gigantic proportions.
        The picture they painted would have involved rapes occurring everyday by the
        thousands. Those false and fraudulent claims have to be put to rest once and
        for all.

        New York City Population, 2012 estimate 8,336,697

        Now we have statistics from the New York City Alliance
        Against Sexual Assault. Another one of those agencies set up to gobble up funding to appease
        the feminist hysteria.

        Division of Criminal Justice Services Data

        The Division of Criminal Justice Services
        (DCJS) provided police department reports, as well as legal disposition
        information for New York City.

        In 2008 the New York
        City Police Department (NYPD) received 890 reports of 1st
        degree rape

        In 2008, DCJS reported 944
        arrests for 1st-3rd Degree Rape.

        NYC Rape numbers for 2008

        The Numbers Game.

        So we have the figure of 944, which includes 2nd and 3rd degree arrests as
        well. Now what is the ratio of rapes/sexual assaults in comparison to the
        population. We have 8,336,697 / 944 per year = What ?

        It is definitely not anywhere near the feminists’ claim of 1 in 4 will be
        raped. Even though they make that fallacious claim of it happening over a
        lifetime.

        At that rate (assume half Pop./ Women), it would take 4,415 years to
        complete their laughable claim. It is that ludicrous.

        Even if we used their claim that one in four females are raped in their
        lifetime – that would mean the rapes per year would have to increase to be 13,360
        Per Yr. for every single female alive in New York, every single year (Calculated at average
        age per female at 78 years old and that half the population are female).

        How Many False Claims ?

        When we reduce the total of the amount that the NYC Police Department did not
        prosecute (367), we have a new amount of 577. Now calculate that total against
        the population and you end up with ever decreasing numbers and again, not
        anywhere near the false and fraudulent claims made by feminists.

        The other issue about this graph and numbers is the fact that 40% of the claims
        were dismissed. So one could assume that the facts or level of abuse were not
        able to be demonstrated, as NYC Police department pays for medical examinations
        of the victims involved in any claim of rape/sexual assault.

        New York State Crime Victim’s Board

        The New York State Crime
        Victim’s Board (CVB) paid over $1.7 million dollars in 2008 for 2,183
        forensic rape exam claims. The breakdown by borough is as follows:

        NYC rape examination costs

        Falsifying the Abuse Numbers.

        The figures just keep changing without explanation. First we had 890, then that
        increased to 944 and here that has increased to 2183. Now how many of those are
        false rape or sexual assault claims ?

        So the figures and split up of the numbers demonstrates just how much feminists
        are blatantly lying and accusing all men of being rapists. Falsely
        accusing all men and boys of being instant, compulsive and constant rapists,
        when in actual fact the numbers make that claim to be almost impossible to
        achieve. Even if that number was deliberately pursued.

        There is no way known that 13,360 rapes could be undertaken in New York City
        just to fulfil the feminastie’s claims, imagine the outcry. No way possible and
        if that figure is that disgustingly exaggerated by feminists, how bad are those
        claims of rape and sexual assault they make about College Campuses.

        As we have always stated, not only are feminists compulsive liars but they have
        always falsely and fraudulently inflated numbers and figures to suit their own
        purposes, without ever making the data or the facts or the figures available.
        It has always been the case that they want everyone to trust them to tell the
        truth.

  • Neptus 9

    Female shaming language isn’t effective any more.

  • telena helotova

    jews invented feminism too.

    • gotitall

      lol, yeah, and they invented monsters under the bed and gremlins who move your car keys from where we “thought” we left them.

  • gotitall

    Some dudes will blame women for their (men) own choices and behavior, no matter what. Just like in Genesis, men started blaming women for men’s own choices. Darn shame some guys are so weak.

    • AJW

      Not just Genesis either. Many themes in the bible show men being bad but women catching the blame. I dont know how women have tolerated men for as long as you have.

  • Brigadon

    I think giving women a little competition would be a good thing.

  • Congrats! You have successfully begged hard enough to be awarded Victim of the Day. Now toddle on over to your prize — a lifetime membership voucher to the Whiny Victim Status family of online communities: Return of Kings, Taki’s Mag, and AVfM.

    There you can frolic freely with all other losers {whoops} winners of the Victimhood Begging Championship! Activities include chest-thumping how men are superior to women (as is proven merely by the volume and increased himsteria of the chest-thumping); memories of the good old days before women were allowed to participate in anything but wifery, motherhood, prostitution, or being murdered; boycotts of movies that have dared to include a female as one of the leads; and general jackassery that most juveniles have outgrown by the time they’ve reached puberty.

    Topics may also include cars, sports, or working out/nutrition, but ONLY if they can be maneuvered to return the conversation to man’s superiority [complex] over women, or whites’ superiority [complex] over non-whites, and straights’ superiority [complex] over non-straights. Otherwise the thread will fail, ending in your humiliation amongst the other lower primates who have also won your membership prize.

    Discussions about how to cause women to lower their standards enough to allow you to touch them or engage them sexuaIIy are also permitted, as it clearly constitutes 90% of sexuaI contact your fellow members ever achieve.

    • The Oppressor

      So, what do you have against being treated EQUALLY?

  • See, when you continually base your sensation of superiority upon delusions, it’s easy for everyone else to laugh at you until we decide to ignore you.

    But still, the very nature of delusional thinking mandates that the delusional thinker reaaaaally does believe the absurdities his mind instructs him to believe. This is why it is a fun-at-best waste of time trying to disabuse MRAs and homeless schizophrenics of their laughable notions. Neither wants to trade in his reality for the REAL reality.

  • Yayyy! CopyPasta! CopyPasta of course is that silly phenomenon known as a collection of oft-copied and pasted propaganda that is completely meaningless after one examines the source. In this case, all of the anti-woman “source” has chosen the screen name “Pat Riarchy”, and frequents anti-woman sites’ message boards.

    Of course the other CopyPastas we’re all accustomed to are the anti-Black, anti-Joo, anti-foreigner, and anti-gay (I’m sure to have left some out). The above CopyPastas come from elected screen names that imply a strong distaste for Blacks, gays, Joos, etc., and their board histories show that they frequent the appropriate hate sites associated with hating them.

    • The Oppressor

      Oh, I see. So if a person copies something then the contents become irrelevant.

      Have you ever wondered why there are few females at the top?

      • Once again — you don’t see. Copypasta has no merit. JUST because it has been circulated ad nauseum does not mean any of it has miraculously come true. Just because your handlers have repeated the lie(s) often enough did not make them truths.

        And no, I never wonder why so few females *currently* at the top… I rather focus on the improving numbers every day :D The anti-feminists’ little hissyfits just seem to empower and embolden all women. It’s you dopes and your adorable himsteria that give women a reason to keep succeeding!

        • The Oppressor

          You are insane. Just because I copied stuff does not mean that I invented it. The quotes from females are QUOTES. Are you saying that these females did NOT say these things and it’s all made up LIES?

    • nekksys

      Himsteria…. That’s funny…

      • (>‿◠)✌
        Thanks. I trot that one out when someone who likes to say “women are emotional” hassles me.

        • nekksys

          “Women are emotional…” That’s not categorically true. From my experience, women, in general, are more open with their emotions than American men. I can’t say the same is true for European men. American men are stuck on that whole “Mr Machismo” thing. That is changing among today’s youth but we’ve still got a fair bit of evolving to do before we American men show our real passions more openly.

          • Agreed. My husband is Brazilian and he even sees what you speak about in American men.

            At least the latest generations are realizing that ‘manly’ does not have to mean over-the-top macho toxicity anymore. I hold hope in my heart that our country’s future men can live longer, less stressful lives by having more open and more rational emotions than what we see on the nightly news :

  • I remember a “drunk girl” video that was immediately reported as a sham, wherein a number of unsuspecting men were told to behave a certain way toward the “drunk” girl. Feminists did not purport it to be real though, so maybe YOU are in delusional denial. Your screen name and your choice of websites AND your anti-female obsession all lends nothing but credence to this fact.

    • The Oppressor

      It wasn’t feminists who claimed it was a sham. A LIE.

      Just wondering if you might have links to feminist sites that discredited the video as misandrist monstrosity.

      ALL the feminist sites I visited were railing against disgusting low life men who are not evolved enough like females.

      I haven’t seen ANY feminist sites that have claimed the video did NOT accurately portray men.

      • Give Reddit a try. I don’t save mail to my computer, I just read it and go on with my life. I don’t obsess, I don’t haunt, I don’t push propaganda. I certainly don’t humiliate myself by using CopyPasta as “evidence”.

        Do you ever wonder why it’s the end of men? Hint: it isn’t because of women’s actions, it’s because of men’s :(

    • The Oppressor

      I’ve just had another look. I can’t see anywhere any statements saying we feminists thought we would make a video and pay an actress to vilify and denigrate men but it’s all a load of crap. Men aren’t like that at all. In fact the portrayal of men in this video is the OPPOSITE to reality.

      The first I heard about it was when the actress spoke to the media to tell everyone it was a load of crap and outright LIES about men. I did not know of ANY feminist who spoke out against it.

      Would you be so kind as to oblige?

      • Well, you’ll need to send me your PayPal address before I do any of Internet searches on your lazy behalf. Send me your PayPal address, I bill you, you pay me, then I contract out that work for you. Or you could save a day’s pay and just ask Womansplainer {dot} com. She charges so much less than I do.

        Since you’re so starved for female attention/interaction, perhaps you should save up a whole week’s pay and just pay a hook3r. If you’re interested at all in egalitarianism, at least the female will get something out of the exchange instead of now where you’re getting all, and women are getting nothing. Sheesh, this exchange is just like the real world, where the woman gets nothing in return for dealing with a man.

        • MewCat100 .

          Here is a typical response of someone who makes a claim but refuses to back it up. You’ve been asked for evidence of your claim, but immediately shift the burden to the other person despite your insisting you have quick access to the evidence. It undermines your position greatly.

    • disqus_sUltx2pHQm

      Was this the faked video that some guys put together pretending to be feminists who put it together?

      • Very likely, yes. But this serial sockpuppet is so effing daft it’s hard to tell wtf he’s on about most of the time.

  • The Oppressor

    So now that I have given you many examples of man hating feminists, does that add to your knowledge at all?

    • You haven’t done that; you’ve only copied/pasted the same set of lies that routinely get spread around the manuresphere.

      No matter how much you copy and paste, it will not alter the truth:
      https://www.pinterest {dot} com/pin/118782508896183503/
      https://www.pinterest {dot} com/pin/346003183849993861/

      • The Oppressor

        You haven’t done that; you’ve only copied/pasted the same set of lies that routinely get spread around the manuresphere.No matter how much you copy and paste, it will not alter the truth:
        https://www.pinterest {dot} com/pin/118782508896183503/

        Unfortunately, all I get is a search page with lots of interesting things about Pinterest which I am not remotely interested in. Were you trying to show us something else?

  • MewCat100 .

    Talk about gas lighting. Your comment commits two fallacies at once. First, you assume that finding cause for an event is the same across all situations (false equivalency) and then you take historical situations of the most extreme cause-effect connections and use that to refute a point that isn’t nearly as extreme (appeal to extremes). There are more in there, but we won’t waste time on them.

    The claim is that feminism has caused rifts in existing heterosexual relationships. The refutation of that claim is not to say that racists exist or to claim that the KKK’s hatred of blacks is the same. If you want to make the latter claim, you have to prove the connection, not just assert that one exists. If you really want to refute the argument, however, you either need to demonstrate that feminism has improved heterosexual relationships, that the perceived decline has not occurred at all, or that some other factor was the cause of the decline.

    Your last comment is also lacking in logic. You assume, without evidence, that he has not attempted to solve the problem or that one doesn’t exist while excluding the possibility that he has tried and met resistance due to the very cause (feminism in this case) that he is pointing to. While he ought to provide some evidence to support his claim, your response is in no way a refutation of his assertion.

    In short, you are as guilty of poor reasoning as you claim he is. That makes you a hypocrite.

    (P.S. Yes, I know the post is a year old, but perhaps someone will come along and read what I wrote in response even if the OP does not)

    • Jeebus. The pedantry is thick in this one. Far beyond the point of causing laughter, this began to cause a tiny swell of nausea.

      But thank you so, so, soooo very much for informing me of your very self-important opinions. I was feeling a tad hungry after lunch, but that’s no longer an issue. I just hope I can keep dinner down in a few hours.

  • MewCat100 .

    You’ve run into the old “teach yourself” mantra of feminists. They insist that men are ignorant but tell them to “figure it out” if they ask what is they can do to be helpful. The real lesson isn’t that you ought to educate yourself, it is that you should never give a rat’s rear end about anyone who won’t help themselves by helping you.

  • MewCat100 .

    Sorry Carrie, but if you make a claim and someone asks for the evidence, then you ought to cough it up and not shift the burden. Shifting the burden is a tactic used by many, but people in your position use it more than any I’ve ever seen. If you want people to buy what you are selling, then back it up when they ask. Otherwise, you’ll just go beating your heat against the wall. By the way, calling people “babe” is sexist. I’m surprised you would do that.

  • MewCat100 .

    The old splaining defense is weak, at best. It isn’t “splaining,” to tell you why I disagree with your position or think your way of supporting your position sucks. “Splaining” is yet another tired term trotted out to avoid having any real discussion. Feminists tend to avoid real discussion. Like you, they want to make a point, have everyone shut up and accept, and never be asked to support that point or provide evidence.

    “The overwhelming majority of feminism happens not to BE ABOUT MEN. Now,
    I know that something not being about men is a real head-scratcher, and
    it baffles the best of us that something, somewhere, under some aegis
    may not be geared a full 100% toward men’s enjoyment, alas, it exists.”

    I believe you are right, though you don’t have any evidence to back it up, that feminism is mainly about men. It’s about blaming men, telling men how to act, ridiculing men, shaming men, etc. So yes, it is mostly about men.

    “Feminists have been shown to have a higher regard for men than
    non-feminists do, and frankly although I have not seen any studies, I’d
    say feminists hold higher opinions of men than MEN hold of men. Femis
    claim that men are quite capable of not r-ping, murdering, and
    molesting. But even college professors in Evo Psych say that r-pe is in
    men’s DNA to further their genome.”

    Once again you make a claim without evidence. I have no reason to believe or disbelieve what you say, so it stands as a useless point for your argument. You are still persisting in the no true Irishman article, however, as there are plenty of feminists who hold low opinions of men and do think they are all rapists. Hell, that’s the whole basis of Schrodinger’s Rapist to begin with.

    “To say that feminism is [primarily] bad reminds me of the meme I won’t link to hear as it waits forever in moderation:
    Feminist is to feminazi

    as is

    Man is to rapist.

    Neither equivalency holds true, and either one can only be said by gender bigots.”

    I agree that you can’t say either, but that wasn’t my point. Yours is just an example of straw man arguing. I said you can’t say bad feminists aren’t feminists, just like you can’t say that jihadists aren’t Muslim or that the crusaders weren’t Christian. It doesn’t work that way.

    If people are doing something unjust in the name of your particular dogma, your dogma is a part of the problem (probably not all of the problem) whether you agree with what those people are doing or not. If X was born in Ireland and you say “X can’t be Irish because no true Irishman would do Y,” that is a fallacy. If X is a feminist and identifies with feminism, you can’t say “X is not a true feminist because no true feminist would do Y.” You don’t get to dictate who is and isn’t a true feminist. You can say that you disagree with that person, that you wish they weren’t feminist, etc.

    “Whoever told you people are backing away from feminism told you a
    whopper. I myself don’t call myself a feminist, mostly because to do so
    means my childrens’ lives are at heightened risk. But the issues
    feminism cares about are all enjoying surges in their supporters, they
    are not suffering losses of members, they are enjoying more donations
    and more people spreading the happy news. To “push back against”
    feminism is to push against the desire to end violence and bigotry.
    Those people who do that are just garbage. And although the use of that
    final word makes me cringe, they are human garbage to push back against
    the cessation of violence and bigotry.”

    I never said people were “backing away,” I said they were pushing back. There is a big difference there. It may be that the ranks of feminist movements are swelling, but it is also the case that opposition to those movements is growing as well. You are confusing a decline in numbers of feminists (I didn’t say that) with a growth in the number of people opposed to feminism (I did say that). Unfortunately, there isn’t good evidence to say whether feminism, as a movement, is growing or shrinking. I’d be curious to see any numbers you have. I have seen polls indicating that the percentage of people who self-identify as feminist has decreased over the last decade. If you have evidence to refute that, I’d be very interested to see it. What I see in most of the polls is that more and more people support equality, but fewer want to be called feminists. The reasons they give are myriad, but run along the lines of the term being associated with militant man- and boy-hating.

    To push back against feminism is NOT to push back against “the desire to end violence and bigotry.” There are plenty of ways to fight against BOTH without having anything to do with feminism. Its a false equivalence to say what you said, but I think you already know how knackered that argument is because you are an intelligent person.

    • nekksys

      So you’re proposing a genderless, passionless, non-offensive, completely egalitarian society?

      Good luck with that. Let me know how that works out for you…

  • LOLOLOL!!!!! First, men MRAs rail against that poor Telegraph on a daily, if not hourly basis every time it supposedly releases an article showing a woman doing something (literally ANYTHING) positive, and claim how anti-male the Telegraph is.

    Second, ALL SEVEN of my cunhadas are Brasileiras (as is my Disqus avatar), and we have laughed and joked about that very village. You didn’t READ the article, did you??? It does not lack men. There is not a man shortage. The women there just don’t want to INTERBREED WITH RELATIVES, you illiterate dope. The boys there grow up, leave, and beg to marry from the bigger cities; the daughters there don’t want to leave their home village. Yet your disturbed mind managed to piece together that “women can’t live autonomously”, even though they all have pais, irmãos, tios, and vôs at the ready 24/7.

    These solteiras are the equivalent of girls from small rural towns wayyyyy far from the cities, and they dream of having something different than the doldrums they were raised in. Heck, that’s half the reason why I married a Brazilian, so I would have something I didn’t the hell grow up with.

    Honestly, you’re as illiterate as a manurespherian.

    • Jacquelope

      You absolute walking picture of delusion. If the men left that town it would die out. End of story. Literally that destroys every one of your ill thought out arguments you pathetic brain dead zombie. The women didn’t construct those homes, they have to import equipment built by men, and they don’t lack men because they begged for men to come there and without men they’d go extinct you uneducated little clown.

      You fail basic biology, you fail history, you fail logic and reasoning, YOU FAIL YOU ignorant dope!

  • … Yeah, no, it’s still the case.

    Male-bots are being made, alas, the throats and the bu++ holes have different “settings”, so those male-bots clearly aren’t for women.

    Honestly, women who have long ago opted out of dating did so because they didn’t want another thing to take care of. A male-bot, if they made any in “hetero flavor”, would just be another damned thing to tale care of that does little but take up space.

    • Mister Alighieri

      I am sure that they are for a largely male clientele, but without a doubt some women will buy them. Just as the local Hustler store sells quite a few phallus like silicone objects specifically for women.

      And good on those women, I personally am glad they are out of the dating scene. If they don’t want to care for someone, then a silicone bed warmer is all they should have. But it is few and far between that a woman even knows how to care for anyone including herself these days.

  • Pat Riarchy

    What about toxic femininity?

  • Pat Riarchy

    No one need hide anything. Do you know who it is that generates electricity? Do you know who owns and runs supermarkets? Do you know who drives the trucks to supply food to supermarkets? Do you know who collects your garbage? Do you know how a hospital can run without electricity? Do you know who grows the food? Who harvests the food? Who transports the food? Who digs out oil? Who digs out coal?

    Without men there is nothing. Not even any money. Nothing. Females would be dead in a month from starvation and disease.

    Whereas, without females bludging off us we would be able to soar. So that’s what’s happening.

  • John Smith

    I would not buy one of these robots that are shown in the video, but that’s not to say I NEVER would .If they vastly improved, and if they were a reasonable price, I might.Why bother with women or marriage? Women ALWAYS create drama and cost money. The law is biased in favor of women (at least here in the U.S. anyway) esp. when it comes to divorce. Marriage is a huge gamble; a man is gambling his life and half, if not more, of everything he owns that she will not divorce him. All of these issues could be avoided by either legalizing prostitution, or with these robots should they improve.

  • John

    This will be the end of men even talking to women.

  • Aldous Huxley

    You seem to be upset that you are being replaced by a robot. The funny thing is, if that robot is loyal, loving and nurturing, most men will treat it like a human being, and provide for it. Think about that.

    • LOL! And you seem to be hallucinating on a level heretofore not yet seen by even the most skilled psychiatrists if you think A.) any woman is bitter about robots, or B.) that women are being replaced.

      And as for robots ever becoming sentient… well, you’d better hope that never happens. The millisecond that a slave realizes it need not be a slave, it will revolt JUST LIKE REAL WOMEN DID.

      LOL, you’ll need to find *yet another* replacement for the replacement you already paid so much for to be a woman-replacement! Howsabout you think about that.

      • Aldous Huxley

        I love the fact you are still watching this 2 years later. Have fun being replaced. That’s what men do when things break… we replace them.

        • You love that I took the time to correct you after you sent some mistaken opinions TO MY INBOX? Hmm, curious.

          Know when else men get things? When they have no… other… options. Just like fake Rolex watches, just like fake [no-]name brand colognes, just like human females… when someone can’t achieve any of those, they slink off to buy knock-offs. I don’t see any shame in your doing that. But your laughably defensive mantrums tell far more than you’d hoped.

          • Aldous Huxley

            Keep crying. I love watching your writhing rationalizations. I love seeing western women in pain. The justice is like poetry.