Thanks Obama – Here Are 24 Stats That Show How Much You Have Royally Messed Up Our Economy

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Under Barack Obama, the U.S. economy has performed worse than it did under any other president since the end of the Great Depression.  After every other recession since World War II, the U.S. economy always regained what was lost and got even stronger before the next recession began.  During this “economic recovery”, we have not even come close to getting back to where we were in 2008.  In fact, the number of Americans living in poverty and the number of Americans that are dependent on the government both continue to explode even as Barack Obama runs up trillions of dollars of new debt.  Anyone that believes that Barack Obama is going to “fix the economy” if he is given another four years in the White House has taken way too many sips of the Obama kool-aid.  The truth is that Barack Obama is not going to save you.  Barack Obama has royally messed up our economy (along with a lot of other things) and that is not something we should be thanking him for.


Yes, Barack Obama is not solely responsible for the economy.  In fact, he does not even have the most influence over the direction of the economy.

However, if he had been willing or able to actually do what was necessary to fix the economy, he certainly had ample opportunity.

For example, the Democrats had full control of Congress during Obama’s first two years in office.

They were in a position to push through just about anything that they wanted to.

But just about everything that did get through Congress during those two years was full of really, really bad ideas.

More importantly, Barack Obama has done absolutely nothing to stand in the way of the nightmarish policies of the Federal Reserve.

Yes, the Federal Reserve does have more power over the U.S. economy than Barack Obama does.

But Barack Obama has made no moves to reign in the Fed or to stop their idiotic policies.

In fact, Obama has had nothing but good things to say about Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, and he nominated Bernanke for another term.

Talk about stupid.

If you were the owner of a pro football team and your coach had lost every game for several years in a row would you give him a new contract?

Of course not.

But even though Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke has a track record of failure that would make the Washington Generals blush, Obama has given Bernanke his unquestioning support.

Obama insists that it would be a really bad idea to ever question the “independence” of the Fed.  Obama believes that it is a good thing that U.S. monetary policy is determined by a panel of “experts” that work for a secretive organization that has no direct accountability to the American people whatsoever.

Yet their decisions have a huge impact on all our lives every single day.

So since Barack Obama has steadfastly refused to stand up to the Federal Reserve and has had nothing but wonderful things to say about Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, it is fair to hold Obama at least partially responsible for the nightmarish economic conditions that Fed policies have helped create.

In the final analysis, basically every single decision that Barack Obama has made regarding the economy has been wrong.  He has added trillions to our debt while flushing our economic future down the toilet at the same time.

Thanks Obama – you really have been awful.

The following are 24 stats that show just how much Obama has royally messed up our economy….

#1 Under Bill Clinton, the average unemployment rate was 5.2 percent.  Under George W. Bush, the average unemployment rate was 5.3 percent.  Under Barack Obama, things have been much worse. The month after he took office the unemployment rate rose above 8 percent and it has stayed there ever since.

#2 Under Barack Obama, the velocity of money (a very important indicator of economic health) has plunged to a post-World War II low.

#3 Real median household income has decreased by more than 4000 dollars since Barack Obama entered the White House.

#4 The United States has plenty of oil and we should not have to import it from the Middle East.  Unfortunately, Barack Obama has an absolutely nightmarish energy policy.  Under Bill Clinton, the number of drilling permits approved rose by 58 percent.  Under George W. Bush, the number of drilling permits approved rose by 116 percent.  Under Barack Obama, the number of drilling permits approved decreased by 36 percent.

#5 When Barack Obama took office, the average price of a gallon of gasoline was $1.85.  Today, the average price of a gallon of gasoline is $3.71.

#6 Under Barack Obama, the United States has lost more than 300,000 education jobs.

#7 Since Barack Obama became president, the number of long-term unemployed Americans has risen from 2.7 million to 5.2 million.

#8 For the first time in the post-World War II era, the employment-population ratio has not bounced back after a recession.  The percentage of working age Americans with a job has been below 59 percent for 35 months in a row.

#9 While Barack Obama has been president, U.S. home values have fallen by another 12 percent.

#10 More than three times as many new homes were sold in the United States in 2005 as will be sold in 2012.

#11 Electricity bills in the United States have risen faster than the overall rate of inflation for five years in a row.  Thanks Obama.

#12 When Barack Obama first entered the White House, an ounce of gold was going for about $850.  Today, the price of gold is over $1630 an ounce.

#13 Since 2008, our economy has lost 1.3 million jobs while at the same time 3.6 million more Americans have been added to Social Security’s disability insurance program.

#14 The number of Americans on food stamps has grown from 31.9 million when Barack Obama took office to 46.4 million today.  How much more “hope and change” are we going to be able to endure?

#15 As I wrote about the other day, it is being projected that Obamacare will add 16 million more Americans to the Medicaid rolls.

#16 If you can believe it (and this really is hard to believe), more than half of all Americans are now at least partially financially dependent on the government.

#17 The total amount of money that the federal government gives directly to the American people has grown by 32 percent since Barack Obama became president.

#18 Under Barack Obama, federal spending as a percentage of GDP (25 percent) is the highest that it has been since World War II.

#19 The Obama administration has been spending money on some of the most insane things imaginable.  For example, in 2011 the Obama administration spent $592,527 on a study that sought to figure out once and for all why chimpanzees throw poop.

#20 The U.S. government has run a budget deficit of well over a trillion dollars every single year under Barack Obama.

#21 Under Barack Obama, U.S. debt was downgraded from AAA status for the first time ever.

#22 Since Barack Obama took office, the U.S. national debt has increased by 50 percent.

#23 Since Barack Obama became president, the U.S. national debt has increased by an average of more than $64,000 per taxpayer.

#24 During the Obama administration, the U.S. national debt has grown more than it did from the time that George Washington became president to the beginning of Bill Clinton’s second term as president.

  • David Hammond

    Today, I was reading like I usually do, and I came across this:

    “They will throw their silver into the streets, and their gold will be like refuse; their silver and their gold will not be able to deliver them in the day of the wrath of the Lord; they will not satisfy their souls, nor fill their stomachs, because it became their stumbling block of iniquity.”

    This line sounds like something you would read in an economic forum, blog, or article concerning America. In fact, many who have the money are buying into gold and silver and ditching the US dollar as Michael has shown us in previous postings. This is actually a verse from Ezekiel 7:19. That whole chapter talks about the fall of Israel before Babylon conquered the land. Even then, man relied on gold and silver to rescue in times of dire times, and it too failed them. I find that there is an amazing parallel in Ezekiel 7 between Israel of the Old Testament and present day America.

    I believe the days are upon us that not even gold and silver will save you from the collapse that is happening, but only if God extends His grace will we be spared. Even then it will be such a difficult time, that there will be no time like it seen before.

    • Michael


      Interesting comment. Thanks for posting that.




    • Malcolm Reynolds

      Dude, we get it. You’re passionate. But those same experts also predicted people that type in all caps are part of the 90%. ;)

    • MB92083

      Dude (EISENKREUTZ), what you have to say is probably important and I would like to read it, but it is too hard to read an ALL CAPS COMMENT so it’s on to the next one.

  • MB92083

    The fact that there is even a chance that Obama could get re-elected is depressing. With all the evidence presented here, he should not even win even one of the 57 states. The mind control machine behind the cult of personality is scary.

  • MisterC

    just kidding ;-)


    A doctor from France says:

    “In France , the medicine is so advanced that we cut off a man’s testicles ; we put them into another man, and in 6 weeks he is looking for work.”

    The German doctor comments:

    “That’s nothing, in Germany we take part of the brain out of a person ; we put it into another person’s head, and in 4 weeks he is looking for work.”

    A Russian doctor says:

    “That’s nothing either. In Russia we take out half of.
    the heart from a person ; we put it into another.
    person’s chest, and in 2 weeks he is looking for work.”

    The U.S. doctor answers immediately:

    “That’s nothing my colleagues, you are way behind.
    us….in the USA , about 3 years ago, we grabbed.
    a person from Kenya with no brains, no heart, and.
    no balls….we made him President of the United.
    States, and now……. the whole country is looking for work

    • Rodster

      LOL :-D

    • S. Wiseman

      Good one. LOL, LOL

    • DKC

      Hilarious! LOL!

  • VegasBob

    I voted for Obama in 2008. I made up my mind back in 2010 that I would not vote for Obama in 2012 after he re-appointed the criminal Ben “Bernokio” Bernanke as Chairsatan of the Federal Reserve. In my opinion, Obama has been a complete failure as a President. His administration reminds me of the Keystone Cops.

    Unfortunately, a President Romney would not do much better. Deficit spending is the magic elixir that politicians use to buy votes and maintain power. So all that will change is the name in the ‘Pay To The Order Of’ field on the government checks.

  • marK

    Did anyone other than Gary2 expect that when queen Nancy, Harry and Obama ran the country for two years they would do anything smart? Take spending, we can blame Bush for his last two years when it started to climb quickly, but who ran the House, queen Nancy. Bush should not have signed on to her spending bills. Bush liked to spend too much ,but not as bad as queen Nancy. Obama wants more people to depend on him for their lives, that is what keeps the progresives in power. Welfare votes!

    • Gay Veteran

      you think Federal spending is ACTUALLY opposed by either party???

      • Malcolm Reynolds

        You think that Republicans actually aren’t?

        How quickly do Democrats and lefty media come up with ‘Republicans want to starve children’, ‘Republicans want to make Grandma eat dog food’, Republicans throw granny over a cliff, ‘Romney denied Holocaust survivors kosher food for the first time ever’ (Hello the Nazis weren’t Kosher), The republicans are going to put you back in chains (Yea, it wasn’t the republicans in the first place) when a republican proposes reducing the RATE of a spending increase?

        Remind us what do you people say about Paul Ryan’s budget again.

        How fair is that when you lie, cheat and smear when it’s actually proposed. You’re right tho, the Republicans need to be MUCH bolder and come up with a plan to eliminate something on the order of half this govt. Cant wait to see what you say about that….

        • Gary2

          Simply look at the Eddie Munster path to poverty and all this is true. Republicans are immoral turds, and low information easily fooled dolts so I guess it makes them turd-dolts.

          Republicans want to starve children’, ‘Republicans want to make Grandma eat dog food’, Republicans throw granny over a cliff, ‘Romney denied Holocaust survivors kosher food for the first time ever’ (Hello the Nazis weren’t Kosher), The republicans are going to put you back in chains (Yea, it wasn’t the republicans in the first place) when a republican proposes reducing the RATE of a spending increase?

          This is all true.

          • ScoutMotto

            Gary2, after reading this smear-tirade, I see no reason to ever take you seriously again.

          • Col. Wilson

            I can’t find any proof of your statements (mind you a lot of repubs are doing wrong & I’m not a repub), however I can find LOTS of proof that your rhetoric of ‘TAX THE RICH & SPREAD THE WEALTH’ will fix the problem is that FACTS show this is IMPOSSIBLE!

            Watch the following videos & see for yourself…

            1. The National Debt and Federal Budget Deficit Deconstructed

            If that wasn’t bad enough, we can’t even tax the rich to balance the budget!

            2. What Can We Cut to Balance the Budget

            3. Will Taxing the Rich Fix the Deficit?

            Of course many liberals (notice I did not say all) believe the lies of stimulus spending & govt creation of jobs – I mean you just print more money & magically a job is created & everyone is happy; however this is not the case…

            4. Why Not Print More Money?

            5. Does Stimulus Spending Work?

            Now since most ppl

            6. What If the National Debt Were Your Debt?

            Amazing how you (Gary2) ignore the facts & continue to promote such ridiculous ideas. Your obviously intelligent & well spoken however there is a lot that your missing.

            I hope you see the truth soon.

        • Gay Veteran

          I don’t know who you’re talking to but I’m not a Democrat.

          And if you think the Republicans are going to balance the budget then you had better get a clue. They plan on additional massive talks cuts to the top 0.1%

          • Gay Veteran

            sorry, tax cuts (not “talk cuts”)

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Please explain the difference between a spending and taxes.

            Please name any time in history where there’s MASSIVE SPENDING and high taxes (Yea, sparky we have some of the highest taxes in the industrialized world) that was solved with tax hikes – because we sure as hell know no democrat will stand for either a tax cut (Yea again sparky, the rich are already paying too much) or a spending cut (unless its defense only).

            Please explain the difference between the approaches of the depression of 1920-21 and the depression of 1939-1941.

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            oops. hit the button too fast.

            Along with the explanation of the two depressions, please explain the results.

        • Gay Veteran

          it’s easy enought to Google what Romney wants to do

          cut the government in half? great, let’s start with the bloated Pentagon budget

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            … Oh yea sparky, I noticed that you conveniently ignored my post with your disingenuous bull crap. I suspect you aren’t a vet at all.

          • Gay Veteran

            “Please name any time in history where there’s MASSIVE SPENDING and high taxes”

            World War II

            “we have some of the highest taxes in the industrialized world”

            rubbish, European countries have much higher taxes

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            You conveniently cut out the main part of the question there sparky. Roosevelts reaction to the Depression made it ‘Great’. Sorry Sparky, but the Great Depression was Great in this country EXACTLY because of the massive spending and taxes increases.

            It wasn’t solved by WWII either. At best the economy was proped up by WWII (But you’d never guess by all the food rationing, fuel rationing and etal drives huh) where economists were very fearful the country would go right back into the depression.

            Reaction to it this time now that that evil b@st@rd FDR was finally dead. They cut the size of the govt and taxes and the economy soared to life.

        • Gay Veteran

          sorry Malcolm, but the FACTS speak for themselves

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Yea they do. And it’s too bad they seem to be completely elusive to you.

          • Gay Veteran

            “They cut the size of the govt and taxes and the economy soared to life.”

            yeah, after WWII much of the military was demobilized, that’s what happens when you win a war

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Yea it’s too bad I was talking about govt outside the milt – but then you knew that.

  • K

    Michael, you are not wrong. But as you yourself point out, Romney will be no better. Let me assure you McCain would not have been a better choice. Do not be lead astray by other people, whose vision is clouded. This is not about Left or Right. This is not about Commie or Fascist. This is about Greed, the love of money. The term so many fear to use, Evil. That is what we need to take a stand against. Many have bought into the fairy-tale, that there is no such thing as Evil. People who believe that are either blind, or have lived a very sheltered life. Evil has no political agenda, it seeks the destruction of all.

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      “This is not about Commie or Fascist. This is about Greed, the love of money. ”

      Yep, sort of. It’s about the free stuff (the Fascism and Communism) or Freedom. Period. They cant exist together and aside from some of the people on talk radio and sites like this, no one is really being told that we’re gonna have to choose pretty quick.

    • Gay Veteran

      Malcolm: “But you’d never guess by all the food rationing, fuel rationing and etal drives huh)”

      you are stone cold STOOPID, there was food rationing and fuel rationing to support the war effort

    • Gay Veteran

      Malcolm: “Yea it’s too bad I was talking about govt outside the milt – but then you knew that.”

      LOL, like I’m supposed to be a mind-reader. It’s your problem if you can’t explain yourself in an intelligent manner.

  • It always thrills me to read a ‘list’ from Endoftheameriandream site.

    Just 24 stats on Obama destroying our economy? I would think there are hundreds of reasons. Another great list. THanks.

  • Jodi

    I got absolutely hammered for sharing one of these articles on FB yesterday. I don’t even think this guy even took the time to read the article. It amazes me people just don’t want to listen to reason.

    I finally got my opportunity to see 2016: Obama’s America. This movie explains how Obama wants to downsize America and distribute the wealth to other countries. It was eye-opening, powerful and most of all disturbing. A must see for all!

    • Jodi

      I meant to say redistribute the wealth.

    • Michael


      Thank you for sharing the article on Facebook. Yes, a lot of these articles make people mad, but hopefully they also are showing people the truth.


    • Malcolm Reynolds

      I’m headed to see it in 20 mins…

  • Col. Wilson

    This again shows that the ‘dear leader’ obama, is pulling the wool over citizens. He & his crew are stripping away the constitution & the rights of citizens.

    Of course Gary2 will say all you have to do it tax the rich & spread the wealth = so wrong. BTW I just did you a favor Gary2, so you don’t have to cut & paste the same kool aid drinking rhetoric.

    IF something is not done quickly THEN this country will fall. Time to prepare is NOW! Get extra supplies of water, food, meds, guns, ammo, etc. Get out of debt, live BELOW your means and learn to live simply.

    If obama is re-elected we will fall sooner rather than later.

    • Gary2

      I am glad you are quoting me saying tax the rich and spread the wealth. You are finally coming around. Good for you. There may be hope to return formerly insane conservatives into thinking liberals.

      • “I am glad you are quoting me saying tax the rich and spread the wealth.”

        Tax the rich and spread the wealth? That sounds like Socialism. What makes you think that idea would ever work in reality?

        “There may be hope to return formerly insane conservatives into thinking liberals.”

        Why? I (perhaps most people) think it’s easier to forgive stupidity than to forgive evil.

      • Col. Wilson

        Unfortunately I am NOT coming around to your rhetoric of ‘TAX THE RICH & SPREAD THE WEALTH’will fix the problem – FACTS show this is IMPOSSIBLE!

        Watch the following videos & see for yourself…

        1. The National Debt and Federal Budget Deficit Deconstructed

        If that wasn’t bad enough, we can’t even tax the rich to balance the budget!

        2. What Can We Cut to Balance the Budget

        3. Will Taxing the Rich Fix the Deficit?

        Of course many liberals (notice I did not say all) believe the lies of stimulus spending & govt creation of jobs – I mean you just print more money & magically a job is created & everyone is happy; however this is not the case…

        4. Why Not Print More Money?

        5. Does Stimulus Spending Work?

        Now since most ppl

        6. What If the National Debt Were Your Debt?

        Amazing how you (Gary2) ignore the facts & continue to promote such ridiculous ideas. Your obviously intelligent & well spoken however there is a lot that your missing.

        I hope you see the truth soon.


  • Malcolm Reynolds

    Oh oh Michael, this is gonna leave some lefty heads a spinnin. Betcha get 0 credible refutations tho.

  • witness the end

    Oh, if we could only return to the days of Jimmy Carter…

  • knightowl77

    Aw Michael, you just don’t like him cause he is black, admit it. ;-) His policies have nothing whatsoever to do with it…. /sarc

    • xander cross

      You mean like how ron paul is an actual racist and yes, he makes millions of dollars from taxpayers year after year after year, and yet, no one here complains about it?

      • MB92083

        he makes millions of dollars from taxpayers year after year after year
        Sources? Evidence? Besides his congressional salary, how are taxpayers funding Paul?

  • Dave Webb

    Shortly after the MASH series left television without new episodes, someone wrote a sequel of an Emergency Hospital in civilian life. All the old crew from Mash were there. The most significant event in this fictional book was Frank Burns, M.D. They hired him! Why, you may ask? He was a total mess. Every decision that Doctor ever made was totally wrong. Well, that is exactly why they hired him. He was used as a “professional” consultant on every difficult case they had. His opinion was 100% wrong every time. Whatever Frank said, the crew did just exactly the opposite with a remarkable success rate. The book hit upon something important. Some people have a reverse barometer and inevitably do everything wrong. Obama might be one of those people.
    So even Obama, with his bad track record would be a valuable addition to any team straightening out Washington, D.C. If I was the President-elect, he would be onboard as a consultant. I would listen very carefully to what he has to say, then go do the exact opposite. My success record would speak for itself. So even someone that has been proven wrong as often as Obama, might be a valuable player in a future administration. The reverse barometer effect is only successful if the player does not know he is being played.

  • GA

    Michael, obviously we are economically bankrupt and our values, morals, and ethics are bankrupt as well. Yes, I agree that Obama and our other “leaders” are responsible. The question is, can it be fixed or is it too far gone?

    • Michael


      Unfortunately I am afraid that America is too far gone. I believe that will become very evident over the next few years.


    • Gay Veteran

      as Gerald Celente says, the fish rots from the head. There is no Rule of Law, the banksters did massive amounts of fraud and none have gone to prision. But if one of us steals a chicken sandwich we get the book thrown at us.

      • Malcolm Reynolds

        “There is no Rule of Law, the banksters did massive amounts of fraud and none have gone to prision”

        How do you feel about the Bamster allowing banksters to do that? How do you feel about the Holder/Bamster forays in Fast and Furious and the Black Panthers intimidation scandal? Hell, how you feel about the Bamster violating centuries of the Rule of Law with the GM debacle investors and that billion dollar gift to the unions?

        I’m just curious, I know you’re disingenuous at best. I think there should have already been Nuremburg trials for all these people and hangings on TV.

        • Gay Veteran

          are you talking to me??? yes Obama let the banksters get away with it, so did Bush (not surprising since BOTH parties are owned by the elites)

          as for war crimes trials, a lot of people from BOTH parties would be found guilty

          • ScoutMotto

            Agreed, agreed, agreed.

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Please cite.

            Enron? Bernie Scumbag? They were prosecuted. So who are you talking about?

            Are you talking about all the left wing real estate scams that all collapsed in Sept 08?

            how much longer did Bush have in office at that point?
            Were investigations started under Bush?
            What happened to those investigations once Bamster was inaugurated?

  • Piglet

    [#5 When Barack Obama took office, the average price of a gallon of gasoline was $1.85. Today, the average price of a gallon of gasoline is $3.71.]

    This is not meant to defend his sorry record, but I well remember gas hitting $4/gallon in the summer of 2008, and I was so happy to be able to bike to work (an hour each way on two wheels) and not have to further enrich the Chimp (Bush), Darth Vader (Cheney), and their crony oil industry pals. Unfortunately I don’t see things getting any better under Mittens. As pointed out in the previous article, they’re “essentially the same candidate.”

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      “This is not meant to defend his sorry record”
      …but you will, because a democrat is nothing if not ill equipped to discuss the facts.

      So how exactly is it that when gas SPIKED in the summer of 08 under Pres Bush, it was all them crony capitalists and evil Republicans and we got treated to news stories of the oh so honest libtards in front of gas pumps.

      But now, when gas prices rose and STAYED THERE under Darth Chimpster Obama, it has nothing to do with the energy policy of Darth Chimpster and there isn’t 1 story in front of gas pumps?

      In reality, the price of oil is set by OPEC, the Market and whichever idiot is setting the enviro policy that shuts down drilling and oil refineries.

      Please cite your reasons that have nothing to do with leftist paranoid delusions.

      • Piglet

        You’re quite mistaken, clearly you know nothing about me, and I made no comment about Obomber’s energy policy, as dreadful as it is. (War policies also have a direct impact on energy prices. Every time there’s saber rattling in the Gulf region, we’re treated to another price spike.)

        I am not now, nor have I ever been, a Democrat. In fact, years ago, I considered myself to be a staunch Republican until I wised up that both parties were taking their supporters for a ride and the joke was on us. I ride my bike to work, not because I’m a leftist (I’m not), but because I can save money instead of spending it on gold-plated $4/gallon gas, it’s excellent exercise (try it sometime, lard asses) that requires no gym membership, and the traffic in this region is so awful that biking down a rail-trail to work is almost as fast as driving. (One hour to bike, 45 minutes to drive.)

        The $4/gallon gas price posted on the sign at the Exxon station near my home in the summer of 2008 was not a “leftist paranoid delusion” but simply a fact of life. Some stations were charging even more. Fortunately it later dropped off instead of going even higher.

        Again, I am no Obomber supporter, and I don’t support his “opponent” either because, as Michael has pointed out, the two have so much in common. (Ron Paul would get my support; the others, forget about it.) Every four years the gullible American public is taught, yet again, that elections determine nothing, that politicians are completely untrustworthy and beholden to big money and special interests, and no matter who wins this election, the American people will lose. This will be apparent in another four years when we’re going through this nonsense yet again, having completely forgotten our disappointments from earlier elections and ready to be fooled once more.

    • Gay Veteran

      Malcolm: “Are you talking about all the left wing real estate scams that all collapsed in Sept 08?
      how much longer did Bush have in office at that point?
      Were investigations started under Bush?
      What happened to those investigations once Bamster was inaugurated?”

      how long had bush the idiot been in office by Sept 08? He did NOTHING to stop the fraud of the banksters

      • Malcolm Reynolds

        Yawn. And how many times did Bush call for investigations and reform. 17-18? Who was standing in the way? Chris Dodd and Barney Frank and the entire leftist apparatus.

        • Gay Veteran

          you DO understand that the attorney general was appointed by Bush the Stoopid, don’t you??? oh, but couldn’t prosecute his corporate masters (just like Obama)!

  • Bob

    In the coming election, I plan to write in Ron Paul’s name as president. Join me. Lets not be limited to who ever is listed on the ballot.

    • OldPhart OutIn TheDesert

      I already plan to write his name in *****************. I suggest others do the same.

      • MB92083

        I see your point. My concern is that a vote for Paul is a vote against Rommney and for Obama. Anyone care to show me the fault in this reasoning?

    • That’s been my plan for a while now, too.

    • Guido

      Reference my despair on the previous thread. As I said there, I’m tired of being in Plato’s cave, lookin’ at the shadow theater. I’m coming out of the cave and writing in this time.

  • Malcolm Reynolds

    “Mutt Romney, is a slave of the Bolshevik Communists who established Communism in Russia, ”

    Oh *************. Lets see the facts on that one. Cite please.

  • Obama became the most recent figurehead on an exponential growth of debt, due presiding over the already established money as debt system.

    It is practically guaranteed that the next President will operate in an even worse predicament. The basic money as debt system automatically and necessarily drives debt slavery to become debt insanity.

    The world has already exploded a couple thousand test nuclear bombs in the past, at it has a couple thousand always ready, at a moment’s notice, to be fired. (Plus, of course, countless thousands more weapons of mass destruction in reserve.) That astronomically sized omnicidal potential is the murder system that backs up our money system. Both have become billions, then trillions, and now quadrillions of times bigger than anything that ever existed before in known human history. Therefore, we have debt controls which, through leveraged derivatives, gambled with money made out of nothing that is literally in the order of magnitude of quadrillions of units, and the combined total fire power of the world’s mass destruction weapons is also some number of quadrillions more than anything before World War II, up until 1947.

    Since 1947, “national security” has become totally psychotic, and itself the greatest threat to national security! Similarly, the enabling of a global system of electronic fiat money fraud, backed up by sovereign nations’ police and military powers, has become psychotic.

    At present, I would predict “Emperor Obama” will be in office when America destroys itself. Obama happens to be President at this point of time, and will likely become “Emperor” when the republic commits suicide. Just there are record breaking numbers of suicides amongst soldiers, and those who dare to tell more truth are being thrown into psychiatric jails, the USA as a whole is undergoing a serious psychotic breakdown, since it is totally controlled by huge lies, backed up with violence, that cannot make those lies ever become true.

    Obama just happens to be strapped to the fire works rocket, when it is reaching its apogee, becoming like the movie character Dr. Strangelove multiplied many, many times!!!

  • Gay Veteran

    Obama is a worse president than Bush (primarily because he has given the bipartisan seal of approval to all Bush did in regards to empire abroad and the national security/surveillance state).

    But some of your point don’t make any sense at all:

    “…the Democrats had full control of Congress during Obama’s first two years in office….”

    Odd comment in view of the incredible number of filibusters by Senate Republicans.

    #1 Under Bill Clinton, the average unemployment rate was 5.2 percent. Under George W. Bush, the average unemployment rate was 5.3 percent. Under Barack Obama, things have been much worse. The month after he took office the unemployment rate rose above 8 percent and it has stayed there ever since.

    Why are you the average unemployment rate? What was the unemployment rate during Bush’s last month?

    #4 The United States has plenty of oil and we should not have to import it from the Middle East.

    And how much would that oil cost in comparision to oil from the Middle East? Hard to reach oil is extremely expensive to produce.

    #6 Under Barack Obama, the United States has lost more than 300,000 education jobs.

    Odd comment coming from someone wanting to shrink the size of government.

    #9 While Barack Obama has been president, U.S. home values have fallen by another 12 percent.

    Uh, that’s because of the popping of the real estate bubble. We still have a ways to go down before reaching what real estate values should be.

    #10 More than three times as many new homes were sold in the United States in 2005 as will be sold in 2012.

    Why build homes when there is a glut of foreclosed homes (and even more being held up by the banks) coming onto the market?

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      “Why are you the average unemployment rate? What was the unemployment rate during Bush’s last month? ”

      Why do you believe it’s fair to compare a 1 month rate (after 7+ years of what’s considered full employment) to the Bamsters 3+ years of horrible employment?

      • Gay Veteran

        hate to give Obama a break, but he did inherit the worse economy since the Great Depresson

        • Malcolm Reynolds

          which the bamster promptly made MUCH worse….

          awesome rebuttal.

          • Gay Veteran

            sorry bucko but our economic problems have been building up since Reagan

            oh, I forgot, it’s ALL the fault of the racist Democrats

            keep licking that corporate boot

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Sorry sparky, our problems were VERY manageable back then. Congress and the Presidents have diddled away 20 years of opportunity to fix them. Well Republicans did, the Demcorats have been trying to Cloward and Piven the system and institue communism for decades.

  • nomore

    I’m just curious as to what posters here would do differently if they were in the President’s shoes…or an elected representative or someone in a position to do things differently on a national level.

    I read an interesting article in The Atlantic yesterday (it was on one of the pro-precious metals investing sites, but I forget which one, sorry) that basically says that just about every job that can be shipped overseas has been moved out of the USA to save the employers maximum $. If some new technologies permit more jobs to be moved and cut more costs, they will.

    But none of those jobs are coming back and if they do they will never pay well or have much in the way of benefits & perks. And I don’t think anyone can or will change that at a national level. I now take this as a given. If things somehow get ‘better’ then great, I’m okay with being wrong. But if not, I know how to get by with a lot less (at least by conventional standards this is less).

    When my professional level job evaporated in 2002, I had to do lots of soul searching (my background summary: many months of looking for something that my thankfully fully paid-for graduate level education prepared me for, nothing open in my field, no replies other than commission only and/or I pay to train myself jobs some of which I knew were part of the real estate bubble/scam which my gut told me to avoid). I went through a lot of frustration and bad times back then.

    When one of my parents got cancer and wanted and needed me home (I’m still single & don’t have kids), I moved to be with them in a rural area they were retiring to (Rep. Bartlett is probably not all that far away from me). I sold out of a lot of the trappings of modern day consumerist life, spent the proceeds from the sale plus my meager savings (I’m one of the few people who got my modest home foreclosed on ten years ago and came out with a check for the **surplus** i.e. my bank got back what I owed plus some, so the overage was mine and so was the confirmation that something was *really* whack in the housing business and whatever it was it wouldn’t end well) to live a really simple more self-sufficient life, which I have now done for close to 10 years. It’s probably not all that far from what Michael here idealizes and encourages others to do.

    Like Rep. Bartlett I think we’re probably at peak everything (cheap oil, cheap goods, cheap food, cheap water, industrialized farming, etc) but unlike him, I’m no longer personally interested in trying to fix anything at the global or national levels (so sorry I can’t tell you what I’d do if I were a national leader because if offered the job, I wouldn’t take it). I’m also not interested in what probably 90+% of my fellow countrymen and countrywomen care about (I don’t have a cell phone or an iWhatever, I’m not only shopping less, I’m also increasingly watching less ‘entertainment’ media and driving less and living a much less consumptive lifestyle). I just look out for me and mine (family, friends, neighbors, and the local community). I think if we’re going to get through this, we have to do so at the local level.

    Yes I will go vote in November but no it won’t be for either big party candidate for any level of national office. For too long no one in either party has cared about people like me (they’d care for the money in my wallet assuming I had some to spare and the desire to give it to them) so I’ve found it simplest to turn my back on them and live my life under their radar.

    I suppose powerful people (and some here) will think I’m ‘poor’, but I don’t measure ‘wealth’ by only material measures. I think I’ve got a lot going for me, so much so that if we pulled the plug on the global economy (like maybe we should have back in 2007, only time will tell if that was the right decision) I and those closest to me could do okay. I doubt most of those in power will do okay if their status quo (for whatever reason) can’t continue. I just don’t see them accepting the need to change without a fight. Heaven help people who either live near them and/or have what they want.

    Like every one, I’m still transitioning, but I’m not putting my energies into fretting over it anymore. I find the statistics Michael searches out useful, but I leave assigning blame to others. My time is better spent doing what I can do for myself (which right now means seeing to the animals’ dinner ;-) and politics just don’t contribute to my daily life anymore.

    Best wishes to all here.

    • Gay Veteran

      “the Demcorats have been trying to Cloward and Piven the system and institue communism for decades”

      **************, and do you wet your pants thinking about the Islamists also?

  • Gary2

    Bottom line–It matters little what you silly little conservatives say or think–Obama will EASILY win in 2012. mittens/eddie munster really?? talk about being picked to loose…and now the tea bag guy from MS-and the rape if it is legitimate??these tea bag are so out of the main stream.

    I PRAY that Obama takes this country far left when he wins reelection. Mittens and paul eddie munster ryan are not electable. How long has mittens been running for president???

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      Praying for mass death and failure Gary? How American of you.

      “Obama will EASILY win in 2012”

      Is that with free and fair elections or thru massive leftist voter fraud?

      And what are you Occupy Wall Street Terrorists (terrorists, terrorists, subversive revolutionaries) that you freely claim to be a member of, going to do if and when he wins?

      • Gay Veteran


        you ever hear of agents provocateurs ?

      • Gay Veteran

        WHAT voter fraud?!?!?!?!? there aren’t enough people in this country who commit voter fraud to form a good parade

        • Malcolm Reynolds

          “WHAT voter fraud?!?!?!?!? there aren’t enough people in this country who commit voter fraud to form a good parade”

          LMFAO! That’s not credible and I wont treat it as such.

          • Gay Veteran

            …In a stipulation agreement signed earlier this month, [Penn.] state officials conceded that they had no evidence of prior in-person voter fraud, or even any reason to believe that such crimes would occur with more frequency if a voter ID law wasn’t in effect.

            “There have been no investigations or prosecutions of in-person voter fraud in Pennsylvania; and the parties do not have direct personal knowledge of any such investigations or prosecutions in other states,” the statement reads.

            According to the agreement, the state “will not offer any evidence in this action that in-person voter fraud has in fact occurred in Pennsylvania and elsewhere,” nor will it “offer argument or evidence that in-person voter fraud is likely to occur in November 2012 in the absence of the Photo ID law.”

            …Pennsylvania GOP House Majority Leader Mike Turzai fueled the concerns of anti-voter ID activists earlier this year when he claimed that the recently enacted measure would “allow Gov. [Mitt] Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania.”…

    • ScoutMotto

      “Mittens and paul eddie munster ryan are not electable.”

      That makes no sense. They are as qualified as Ovomit.

      “How long has mittens been running for president???”

      It doesn’t matter if someone has run for president five times.

      “I PRAY that Obama takes this country far left when he wins reelection.”

      Dude, if this country went any further left we would silde off the continent.

      Ovomit is running us into the ground. When the police state is fully in place, I hope you see things different by then. But, it will be too late.

  • Robert (qslv)

    Since there has been another Robert here before me, added (qslv) to avoid confusion. Nomore, what you’re trying to do is actually harmfull to the Juggernaut of New World Order we see unfolding.

    I heard a radio news announcer droning about the communities in the heartland that are using their own currency and barter to separate themselves from the credit system that is destroying the world. They are presented as whackos and the Treasury has published a warning to stop these practices under threat of legal (?) action. This, I suspect is where the new “shot heard round the world” will be fired. I see flea markets, pawnshops, yard sales, farmer’s markets, coin shops and rummage sales, church socials, peddlars as the new enemies of the state and the only hope for a free life in the US, or the whole world for that matter. Notice the Euro is dismantling the Gypsie camps and destroying their caravans?

    Divorce yourself from the bank/credit economy if you can. Become adept at small community living and a barter economy. If you’re already caught in the Matrix, work quietly towards untangling yourself. Make career moves which would give you a skillset that would make you indispensible to a small barter community.


  • i’vegivenup

    My reasons for being highly disappointed in Obama:

    -He didn’t have the Wall Street bankers criminally indicted and prosecuted for being major contributors to the 2008-2012 recession (actually a depression now). This includes the Fed and Bernanke…

    -He didn’t have Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc indicted and proscecuted for WAR CRIMES in Iraq and Afghanistan. To this day he still has us in Afghanistan and for what????? Rumblings of us getting involved in Iran and Syria may lead us to WWIII because of warnings from Russia and China to stay out…

    -He didn’t address unemployment and lack of jobs first but instead pushed his agenda of “Obamacare”…

    -He has gladly accepted campaign donations from Wall Street bankers and major corporations that have put us in this mess…

    -He compromised way too many times with Congressional Republicans and never called them out for their filabustering and obstructionism (he’s gutless)…

    Before he was elected in 2008 Obama never said things would be easy and that he may not get the things done to be elected to a second term. I felt from the beginning that it was going to be a monumental task to right the ship if at all. I am really not surprised at the current state of the economy and I will not be surprised once the house of cards crumble.

    Additionally…if Romney wins the election the cards will fall faster because he is even worse than Obama…

    • Piglet

      I can think of 100 reasons to be disappointed:

      100 Ways Barack Obama Is Just Like George W. Bush

      Add to this Michael’s previous column titled 40 Points That Prove That Barack Obama And Mitt Romney Are Essentially The Same Candidate and what will we have after the next election? Business as usual, no matter who gets elected.

      George Wallace wasn’t kidding when he said, “There’s not a dime’s worth of difference between the Republicans and Democrats.”

  • xander cross

    Funny how you compailn about jobs, but you want to cut government jobs across the board? There is something amiss here.

    • Guido

      Because govt jobs do nothing for the economy, while real jobs (hopefully) create wealth. Are you a govt employee, Xander? Ohhhh, that would explain so much!

      Govt jobs are created by robbing taxpayers. They’re nearly impossible to remove once created, funded, and staffed. Every dollar invested in a govt job is stolen from a tax payer who might have invested it, spent it in his community, or saved it for later use. Plus, they’re overpaid. Govt workers are paid much more than people in equivalent private positions. They used to call it govt service. If it was service, you would think it would be easy to tell them their service is no longer required and fire them. Instead, it seems like they just serve themselves and persist for long, long periods of time. Plus, if it really were service to the public, you would think they wouldn’t need 75K on average to perform it…

      • theyak47

        Too bad the only “government” jobs being cut are teachers, building maintenance, pollution and code inspectors, etc. And as far as overpaid is concerned, it’s an easy argument to make that the economy is performing as poorly as it is because private sector employees are underpaid.

    • Guido

      By the way-it’s always good to cut govt. We have far too much of it. Is there any reason why private business should suffer while govt is bigger than ever AND being paid more than the average American worker who slaves 1/3-1/2 the year to support them?

  • Jeff

    I dislike Obama greatly, but I suspect not for the same reasons as the author. That said, a large percentage of the issues listed here were direct and unavoidable consequences of the disastrous Bush2 years. Nevertheless, a leader with a vision to match his rhetoric would have accomplished a great deal more. Obama, in Chris Hedges’ words, is a courtier to the real power structure in this country, the one that has created a systemic slavery for millions of Americans. I believe democracy died when Obama so onerously failed.

  • Mondobeyondo

    Vote for Obama in November. He promises to fix all our problems in his second term.


  • Mondobeyondo

    In reference to #10…
    There’s no reason to build more new housing when there is such a glut of existing properties on the market – dirt cheap (relatively speaking)!

    If old houses aren’t selling, what good does building new houses do? The new houses won’t sell either! Notice also, the half-vacant strip malls everywhere. What isn’t vacant has been converted into storefront churches, massage parlors and so forth.

  • ScoutMotto

    Michael, I heard part of your appearance on Howard’s show today. I will catch the whole thing tonight when it is replayed. Good work.

    • Michael

      Thanks :)


      • ScoutMotto

        I heard the whole show, Michael, very good. I’ve noticed that Howard has quoted a lot from your sites. I think Mac Slavo has too, as well as Alex Jones. You get to reading enough good people in patriot circles and you see they quote each other a lot in spreading what needs to be said. I think Rense does that too. I started with one newssite, and one site led to another. Now I have at least a dozen I check out on a near-daily basis.

      • ScoutMotto

        Listening to KHNC a lot has helped go from one site to another for that matter. I remember when that station was new twenty years ago. I wish there were a KHNC in every city.

  • Given the sameness between Romney and Obama on a large number of points, I’m not certain that it will really matter who of them gets the Oval Office in November. All these points could continue in spite of recent reversals by Romney.

  • GA

    Forget the blame for now. Focus on preparedness. Protect yourselves and your family from the coming pain. Don’t just think about it, do it. You will not have anybody to rely on other than yourself and your faith. Prepare yourself physically, mentally, and spiritually. Check out for ideas. Educate yourselves, stock up, and practice your skills now while things are relatively calm.

  • Dave Webb

    I ran across a very interesting article on where our candidates are coming from. It seems like it is restricted to a very exclusive club or clubs in our prestigous Universities. Harvard is currently on top. Yale has been right up there. The fraternaties involved limit membership to a very few people. One fraternaty only allows 15 new people a year. Yet that fraternaty has had 3 Presidents come out of the group. Party politics has nothing to do with it. They came from both parties.
    Also the relationship with the Council of Foreign Affairs is very interesting. It explains a lot. I could not find where Paul Rand is from this group.
    Obama, yes . . .
    Romney, yes . . .
    So who is training these people to lead? Is this why they seem to have a common theme in both parties?
    Look to your vice presidents! Because the ideas coming from that group have an enormous influence on the person at the top.
    President Kennedy was a member of that exclusive group. But LBJ was not. He came from a teacher’s college. He came to power and got rid of a lot of the team that worked for Kennedy. One result I feel was the disasterous Vietnam War. LBJ had no use for the brain trust of Kennedy! He was a political decision to get votes for Kennedy. Those that refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. I believe that saying . . .
    I would be very interested in learning more about our potential leaders. What do they really stand for. How have they voted in the past? What does that portend for our future?
    Mr. Romney’s choice says volumes about what he plans to do when he actually becomes President. I would be pressing him on what he intends to do with Social Security and Medicare and how it relates to the votes in the Congress by his choice of a Vice President.
    I think we need to pay a lot of attention to what Joe Bidden thinks as well. He is one heart beat away from becoming another LBJ. And even if he doesn’t tragically become a President, he is a logical successor at the end of the second term of office.
    I fear that we are ruled by our impulses. Impulses are ruled by subliminal suggestions. Do you actually know why you buy a product at the grocery? There are entire volumes devoted to your reasons you make those choices. I think Mr. Romney will win because of those subtle choices, not because of what he stands for politically. Both candidates appear to be twins. So what else is left, but impulse voting?

  • Dave Webb

    Paul Ryan. Sorry, been functioning today on little sleep. Please change if you can.

  • “People Get the Leaders They Deserve”. Because of her mountain of sins, the U.S. deserves no better than Obama!

  • DaveW

    Paul Ryan is the man behind the throne. He will be President if anything happens to the President. That means his thoughts, his ideas, the voting record he has made in the Congress and how he voted is very important based on the big IF. The other thing is the Vice President, is the tie breaker in the Congress. If it is very close voting in the Congress the Vice has a vote.
    I see him as a vibrant young man with schooling in a lot of areas. I don’t like the way he has voted in the Congress on a number of issues. But he is following the party line. That is probably why he is on the ticket.
    Joe Bidden reminds me a lot of LBJ. What more can I say. If he becomes President you are riding a roller coaster. He might be everything that Obama isn’t. I certainly think his influence is far greater than Obama’s. Again we look at people behind the people on the throne. Emglish is a marvelous language. It has double meanings on so many words. The Throne in the common speech also can refer to a toilet.
    I think that either man in the Vice President’s position is one heart beat away from being President. We need to pay a great deal of attention to just who sits in waiting behind one of the most powerful positions in the world. The decisions made effect all of us. I refer to the wages and pensions we depend on in every day life. I refer to a stock market that could crash. I refer to the deregulation of the banking industry. That deregulation is going to come back to smack everyone in a sensitive area no matter which party is in charge. If the market did crash, all of our pensions are down the toilet. Yet there is every indication that we have some major hard decisions to make in January. Who makes those decisions? That is critical. Yet I see the subliminals at work and I think the actual popular vote will make it very close no matter who wins. So the electorial college will elect the President. They do not necessarily vote for the popular candidate . . .

  • Greyish Blue

    I believe the attack on Iran will happen before the election. That would screw up everything globally, the 2012 election could be suspended. Barack Obama will probably continue his reign of terror, Muahahahahaaa!!!

  • Mondobeyondo

    I HOPE… that there will be a CHANGE for the better…

    (hey, I said that back in 2008! And look what’s happened in the last 4 years!)

    Happy days are here again! Two chickens in every pot! Blah blah flippin’ blah.

    Bartender… hit me up with another Tom Collins, will ya?!

  • otter

    It’s pretty much a fact that either Romney or Obama will be elected president this November. Writing in Ron Paul or someone else is basically throwing away your vote and helping Obama get reelected. Obama’s term so far has been a total disaster-he has absolutely no intention of stopping the massive spending and is taking this country in the wrong direction.

    As far as being the essentially the same candidate-I disagree. Romney is pro life, Obama is so radical on abortion that he voted against the born alive infant protection act as an Illinois state senator.

    Whether you take him at his word or not, Romney says that he will nominate judges in the mold of Chief Justice Roberts and Justices Scalia, Thomas, and Alito. I’d take that any day over the far left Sotomayor and Kagen who voted to uphold the disastrous Obamacare.

    Romney promises to expand domestic energy production, which would lower energy costs and create jobs. I believe as president he would approve the Keystone pipeline.

    There are many other differences. Go to and check them out yourself. Yes he may just be saying many of these things to get elected, but at least he’s saying a lot of the right things. I don’t see how he could be even close to as bad as Obama’s been.

  • El Pollo de Oro

    Two years ago, some dumbass flag-waving neocon freak down south took offense at this site and Michael T. Snyder’s site The Economic Collapse. As Dumbass Flag-Waving Neocon Freak saw it, talking about how incredibly messed up this country has become is unpatriotic—and true patriots, in his mind, knew that the American economy was going to come back stronger than ever. But here we are, two years later without the economic miracle that Dumbass Flag-Waving Neocon Freak thought was right around the corner. And there will be no economic miracle for The Banana Republic of America (the Third World slop bucket that used to be los Estados Unidos). Regardless of whether the BRA ends up with four more years of Barack “Goldman Sachs” Obama or four years of Mitt “Wall Street” Romney, we are seriously screwed economically and can look forward to a nightmare that will be even worse than The Great Depression of the 1930s. The misery is only going to get worse.

    “We have sold our souls for this plastic Wal-mart death pit.”—Alex Jones

    “We have two choices, only two. And it’s not Romney or Obama. It’s fascism or freedom, and I’m voting for freedom.”—Gerald Celente

    “Brace yourself. The American empire is over. And the descent is going to be horrifying.”—Chris Hedges

    “There are two Americas today. One is swimming in money and is seemingly more prosperous than ever. The other America is a complete and total economic nightmare.” —Michael T. Snyder

    “Death is what ‘your’ government in Washington, both Republicans and Democrats, are bringing you. Both parties are driven by the neoconservatives who believe that American hegemony over the world is worth nuclear war to accomplish. If these dangerous ideologues continue to prevail, life on Earth has a very short-run prospect.”—Paul Craig Roberts

    “The fish rots from the head down, and the fish is rotting. The rotten fish is Wall Street and Washington.”—Gerald Celente

    “Corporatism is alive and well in this country. We’ve bailed out individuals on Wall Street that made horrific decisions that should have been rewarded for those horrific decisions by having lost all their money. Of course, that didn’t happen, and you and I bailed them out at a cost of a trillion bucks. And they continue to award themselves bonuses at our expense.”—Gary Johnson

    “When people get hungry and desperate, things get ugly. And I’ll tell you where it’s really going to get ugly: crime is going to go to levels we’ve never seen before.” —Gerald Celente

    “What the American people are angry about is they understand that they did not cause this recession. Teachers did not cause this recession. Firefighters and police officers who are being attacked daily by governors all over this country did not cause this recession. Construction workers did not cause this recession. This recession was caused by the greed, the recklessness and illegal behavior of the people on Wall Street.”—Bernie Sanders

    “The policies of George W. Bush have been assiduously carried out, for the large part, by Barack Obama. Even figures like Dick Cheney have confirmed this.”—Chris Hedges

    “Americans like to believe that the rest of the world looks up to us, but the truth is that the rest of the world is laughing at us.”—Michael T. Snyder

    “This is a collapse of empire. One thing that is an ingredient of all collapses of empire is an absence of justice. There is no justice.”—Stacy Herbert

    “We’re in the midst of a financial crash, and they want the Gestapo in place to keep the people in place because when the money stops flowing down to the man on the street, the blood begins flowing in the streets.”—Gerald Celente

    A nightmarish bloodbath awaits The Banana Republic of America, collapsing hellhole of the Third World. These are very dark times we’re living in.

    • lily

      This is the second time in a couple of days I have read your post. And I’m still not
      sure what you are really po’d over. But your paragraph strongly suggests that you
      are one of the foul-mouthed Conservatives who are in these days known as Trump

      Obviously, there is anger there. And one thing that I am curious about is Celente’s
      remark is that ” when the money stops flowing…., the blood begins flowing in the
      streets.” Not that statement is true. But I wonder of Celente had really caught
      on, while the others appear not to have. There is a hatred against the black guy
      whether admitted or not because the black guy is always committing the crimes.
      And the statements always run to something like “let them help themselves.”

      Well, it doesn’t work like that. People need help and people need community. And
      if you are in the group that doesn’t have equal opportunities, you will become angry,
      and if you are a young testosterone-filled man with similar others around you, there
      will be trouble. No doubt about it. So when is the right going to be willing and ready to address that situation. Now that your turn has come also, you seem to
      be all so willing to blame the “other” people. But you have been the “other” people
      for a very long time yourselves.

  • Albert

    This post is so reflective of the American political attitude. You first think a president will save you and if he doesn’t then he’s the devil. It’s an unhealthy, unrealistic and somewhat pathological relationship you have with your government. It’s also whinny.

    I won’t dispute the hard facts in this article, because we are talking about real people and what’s happening to them. Spain (25% unemployment rate)is in far worse shape economically than the US, Japan is struggling post-Fukushima and the EU is insolvent.

    It would be helpful to look around the world and realize that this isn’t just happening to Americans, but in fact it’s happening everywhere.

    Pointing the finger at Obama doesn’t provide context for a more truthful discussion and analysis of what’s actually happening in the world.

    WE ARE ALL FACING GLOBAL COLLAPSE. Stop whinning and start talking about solutions. This blog seems to be about dramatics – how very American.

    • Mondobeyondo

      Much of the anger and vitriol towards Obama has to do with unrealistic expectations. Some of it was his fault – the guy was portrayed, and came onto the political scene as a savior, the change we needed, the answer to the horror that was George W. Bush. Turns out he couldn’t even walk on water, and he lost a lot of votes there. He couldn’t turn water into wine – so he lost the alcoholic demographic there. As a last gasp – Obama declared he would heal the sick, and so Obamacare was passed. Sigh.

      Obama may squeak by and win in 2012, but I really doubt it at this point.

      Time to give Mitt Romney a chance – although to be honest, he probably won’t do any better.

    • Unless you have been directly and negatively impacted by this admin’s (lack of) leadership over and over again as I have and seen your income drop and taxes increase then you have no business talking. I have tried to make things better yet am shot down for having too much experience, the wrong demographic, etc…If this is whining then so be it. People who sit on their butts make more than I do as a double masters degree grad (math and admin) sickens me especially as they flaunt it.

      • lily

        If you have a double masters degree and you can’t find a job, then
        there is something else the matter with you. Maybe they don’t
        like your personality, or your references aren’t any good.

  • What astonishes me is that the Republicans don’t use any of these 40 facts against Obama in their commercials. Instead of unbelievable promises in commercials they just have to make a list like endoftheamericandream does. Americans are smart enough to get the full picture after 40 facts are presented to them.

    • norm

      what facts?

  • Mondobeyondo

    Y’all should have voted for Ron “The Anti-Establishment True Maverick Candidate” Paul.

    Oh well.

  • lily

    Mondobeyondo, I assume O. will win, since electronic voting machines in Spain will be counting our votes. Electronic devices can be pre,and re-programmed and hacked, all with no paper trail. It’s been this way since before O. I think the only purpose for voting at this point, is to monitor our responses for demographics. This may be the first year I don’t vote for a presidential candidate. They’re itching to put us under martial law, and with the technology available, I wonder why they haven’t done so already. I guess we’re still productive enough, for a while longer, operating under the facade of freedom, or maybe, just because we keep buying all of China’s stuff. Ron Paul never stood a chance. There hasn’t been a president the CFR hasn’t approved, for a very long time, and he wasn’t on their list.

    • gman

      This is very well said! and very true!

  • “The percentage of working age Americans with a job has been below 59 percent for 35 months in a row.”

    Should that be “Without”?

  • lily

    Xander Cross, I agree about Paul. I supported him for awhile, until I found his connections and quotes related to racism.

    John Hammond, your comment at the beginning is the one we need to remember. We need to look at all of this from God’s perspective.

  • lily

    Sorry, I meant David Hammond.

  • proOBAMA

    Under Obama, you can still sleep without the threat of bombs dropping on U.S soil. [yes,certain countries have the capability] The world likes Obama. He is the much needed injection of color. If Romney gets “elected”, it’s back to the “Anglo-Take-All” games. Ever notice that most of the world is brown, and run by whites? And don’t go there, I am a white female…

    • lily

      Got post, and even more meaningful now that we have Trump in the
      White House.

  • proOBAMA

    otter: are you a baby-boomer? you know, that useless, pathetic, clueless type? It is widely believed the U.S. did in fact go into a death spiral starting in 08. Hence the ‘bailouts’ to keep us afloat. What we are witnessing now are the death throes. Collapse happens one business, person, ect., at a time. It does not happen because “the black guy is President”. Long live Obama!

    • Tom

      His job is to help. He has the ability and authority. What ever crap bush caused, Obama had made about 3 times worse. Most of his bailouts have done nothing but hurt us even more. His spending will do nothing but increase the interest rates at which America pays and decrease the value of our dollar. He is trying to be the nice president not the smart president. All this equality crap needs to stop as well. Republicans don’t see color we see skill and education if anything liberals are pointing out color. Also this gun control crap, Obama himself has actually scared people into buying weapons. He then tried tried blaming it on the NRA while the CEO is just watching his sales rise. Obama is an idiot, bush was kind of an idiot, Romney is not bush and given his success and experience would have most likely made a much better president than Obama but America wants their entitlements. Btw your military stance is ass backwards. Obama is the reason we cut military jobs he also plans on dropping the military budget another 500 million dollars. Sorry one thing you don’t do is take money away from the main reason we are a power. Sorry for typos, grammar, syntax errors. On iPhone.

      • lily

        I disagree with you a whole big bunch. I have noticed that you
        didn’t try to PROVE anything. We are just supposed to take your
        word for stuff. And if you guys were scared into to buying weapons
        are flat out big sissies.



  • Alicia

    Look we all know what Obama promised about change and he said if he doesn’t make a change in his first year then he will have a one term Presidency. well Obama we got worse. You are now allowing attacks on us and letting the terrorist threaten us once again. You lied about Libya and now we find out that the State Department had an email from an Al Quada terrorist group taking claim for the attack in Real Time. The President,Biden and Secretary of Defense all in Oval Office as it was happening in Real Time and then tried to pin it on a video. This man makes me sick and afraid. He talks about America to other countries such as America dictates to other nations, he said we fail to notice their leadership and we show Europe arrogance, He said US is disengaged and we are not a Christian nation. Thank God Mitt called him out on talking down on America instead of talking proud. In Trinidad Obama said we are disengaged, Obama said we are guilty of torture. Obama embarrassed our country and never said how we stood up and fought for freedoms of others This man is our President? He seems to be out to destroy America and we need to react and take our Country back from the reins of an arrogant President who wants to be a movie star and not leader. I had enough of his lies and belittling of our great country. He is a child with his big birds and binders and you did not build that statements… I want a leader!

  • “It’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations,” Obama was caught saying in reference to the loss of jobs in the area. (via hidden camera)

    President Obama, You are way off the mark with your insults. All Americans began as immigrants once upon a time. Most Americans realize that this fact is our past, present and future history. Everybody has the right to defend their life and nobody should insult another person’s beliefs. Most people have respect for other people’s feelings. Now, please elaborate where you got these ideas…

    Obama OVERspent $$$$$$$ 7 TRILLION
    + 27 MILLION Americans are Unemployed (more now than in 2008)
    + 47 THOUSAND Americans on Welfare (more than doubled since 2008)
    + 370 THOUSAND Americans in College (nearly doubled since 2008)
    = WHERE ARE OUR JOBS???? That’s Obamanation !!
    The Outstanding Public Debt as of 24 Oct 2012 at 08:18:40 AM GMT is: $16,204,231,997,617.14

    The estimated population of the United States is 313,741,893
    so each citizen’s share of this debt is $51,648.29.

    The National Debt has continued to increase an average of
    $3.88 billion per day since September 28, 2007!
    Concerned? Then tell Congress and the White House!

    Debt History… every 4 years with each Presidential Term :
    10/24/2012 …. 16,204,231,997,617.14 ($6.2 TRILLION diff)
    09/30/2008 …. 10,024,724,896,912.49 ($2.6 TRILLION diff)
    09/30/2004 …. 7,379,052,696,330.32 ($1.7 TRILLION diff)
    09/30/2000 …. 5,674,178,209,886.86 ($4.5 Billion diff)
    09/30/1996 …. 5,224,810,939,135.73 ($1.2 Billion diff)

    Chart – Federal Deficit, Healthcare, Total Spending (You should see these lines get closer for a healthier country. But, frivolous spending (Bush bailouts) jumped just before Obama took office AND then spending leaped out of control since! Obama plans to at least double his spending in the next term since his team has figured out how to spend it without congressional input. Practice makes perfect!?)

    21.33% of almost $17 Trillion Federal Debt, if fully taxed, passes at 52% to working class Americans. :

    We cannot control any of our greedy leaders. Big GOV Corruption is out of control. Only GOD can save us – which has been God’s plan all along, since our Almighty knew greed would get this bad – and soon they will rob us of our free will. SEE the book of Revelations in the Bible which is directly related to our current conditions and the mark of the beast – the RFID Chip will eventually revoke our free will.

  • (continued) ANYONE who accepts the mark of the beast will not be allowed to enter heaven.…11966.11966.0.13795.…1c.1.nPI4b-1RZfo&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&fp=80ef5323c76d6b79&bpcl=35466521&biw=1130&bih=615

  • Anon

    I want someone to kill me a Libby so I can kill them a liar, I’d lol to death! OBAMA FTW!!

  • Yuckiedoo

    This is the most ignorant rant I’ve have ever read. Blaming Obama for the world economic troubles is dumb. You cannot live with tax cuts forever especially with a 10 year plus war and expect not to pay. Dumb dumb dumb……

    • opine

      liberals still blame bush 7.5 yrs later. its what they do. but you get mad when oblamer gets the blame, which is where it should fall?

    • karlholmes

      These are room temp white trash bigots they dont count as humans

  • Katy

    If the US used ALL of our oil it would last us less than 4 years, so #4 is a complete lie. And trust me, I hate Obama. I’m not saying this becauee I voted for him. #4 is just an idiotic statement. Go to college.

  • TwelveYearOldGirl

    I dont get how people can see this and say,” OBAMA FTW!”,” LONG LIVE OBAMA!”,” Youj blame obama for all your problems” well deary he is the president and has made all the “problems” worse hun. Theres more than 24 four reasons he is a terrible president.. But God let him get re elected for a reason… And yes I am bringing the “G word” into this because this country was built on CHRISTIANITY and this countr ha fallen farther than it should have. I think part of the reason is because we aren’t asking God what step we should take. Its Obama’s ignorance that got us in this mess. When nobody wanted Obama care he basically said,” I dont care if you dont want it and it will ruin out economy more this is what I wanna do and I’ll fire you cause I am the big dog if we dont push it through!” Ok maybe I exaggerated there for humor but he pushed it through when no one wanted it. Now everyone LOVES OBAMACARE ITS THE BEST THING SINCE MCDONALDS! I think its not that Obama is evil but he just doesn’t truly KNOW how to fix this. He just likes the fame andthe love he gets and he doesn’t pay attention to anyone who doesn’t like him because he is doing what he thinks will heal the ecomony when its just making it worse. People blew up about big bird but the truth is if a KIDS TV SHOW is more important than GETTING US OUT OF THE TRILLIONS OF DEBT WE ARE IN we don’t deserve to even have that show. Honestly people if we really understood what we’re up against I don’t think you’d be so dumb. They keep us out of it by throwing Kim Kardashian and Ellen in our faces along with Nancy Grace and all her ” BREAKING NEWS.” Dont get me wrong, they aren’t bad people. But there set there for distractions so we don’t know how deep in debt we really are.
    By the way, I’m twelve. And if your gonna say,” YOUR NOT TWELVE ” think about this first,” Why would she lie!?”
    I just have a REALLY strong opinion on politics and its one of those things that I just LOVE getting into and love telling the truth and people telling me how wrong I am when deep down we both know I’m totally right.

    • lily

      I think perhaps you exaggerate your age. You would be more convincing
      if you said 7 years old.

      1) This country was built on Christianity. Sorry, but no. It might even
      be a stretch to say that it was built by Christians, because I personally
      see a whole lot of non-Christian things in our founding fathers, including
      owning slaves, have children with slave women, and general philandering
      that we would love to assume didn’t happen back then.

      2) When people didn’t want Obamacare. Sorry, again, but not true.
      Obviously there were a lot of people who didn’t want it. But those who
      voted for him did want it. And he knew his electorate and he gave us
      what we asked for. And our Republican Congress today, still know that
      more people want it than don’t want it, and that is why it is still there.

      3) “he likes the fame andthe love he gets and he doesn’t pay attention to
      anyone who doesn’t like him because he is doing what he thinks will heal
      the ecomony when its just making it worse” Would you like to make
      some comment about our current President. I think that it is safe to
      say that people love it when they are loved. Fame, I’m not so sure about.
      It can be a real pain in the butt. However, an American President will
      always be famous, whether it exists because he is loved or not loved.
      And, Obama didn’t make it worse. I suppose there were people who
      were expecting, or at least hoping that he would change the economy
      overnight, but the economy doesn’t work like that. There are no
      quick changes, even coming or going.

      4) And if you think that the Karadashians, etc. are there for distractions,
      you are so very wrong. You can make them a distraction if you want.
      But they are there because they want to be there.

      5) ” I am when deep down we both know I’m totally right.” Gosh, I
      hope you have grown up by now.

  • gfafdga

    i must point out that this “#5 When Barack Obama took office, the average price of a gallon of gasoline was $1.85. Today, the average price of a gallon of gasoline is $3.71.” and this”For example, the Democrats had full control of Congress during Obama’s first two years in office.” are outright lies. i used to like obama, and yes my opinions changed, but youre outright lying you pos

  • LibertyOne

    LOOK at the date of this article Aug.2012…a year and a half later you could ADD another 100 reason’s why he and his Regime are INTENTIONALLY destroying this country.

    • lily

      Why don’t you put some proof behind that statement. First that the
      nation is destroyed and second that it is intentionally being done.

  • karlholmes

    lmao white trash plutocrat bigots WE WILL SLICE YOUR THROATS!

    Republicans want lower taxes, a larger income gap; abolishment of the minimum wage, worker’s rights, social safety nets, and government regulations; tort reform, arbitrary agreements, and corporate personhood.

    In other words, they want the middleclass to merge with the poor, have no rights in the workplace, to a livable wage, protection from an unsafe work environment, the ability to sue their employer if they are harmed in an unsafe workplace, or protection if disabled or laid-off.

    The Republicans want the American Dream to only be available to the wealthy (the new aristocrisy) while the middleclass (the new poor) are left to toil as wage-slaves and serfs. Republicans are all about greed, veiling themselves as “Christian Conservatives” they crusade against gay marriage and abortion, while at the same time they want to eliminate social programs meant to help the poor, so what would Jesus do?

  • karlholmes

    “Spite voting is mostly a white male phenomenon, which is why a majority of white males vote Republican. It comes from a toxic mix of thwarted expectations, hate, cowardice, bigotry, shame, and a particular strain of anomie that is unique to the white American male experience.”

    • karlholmes

      Room temp IQ murikans- CONS

    • Leon Vickerman

      Is Obama half to blame because he is half white. Obamas main job along with George Soros is to destroy America. It seems to be about the only job he is getting done. Anyone how listens to a preacher for twenty years preach God dam America has to be sick.

      • lily

        Obama was not out to destroy Obama and he DIDN’T destroy
        America. There were a whole bunch of people, however, out to
        destroy Obama and they did not accomplish that mission either.

    • lily

      So very well put. And you will find that all over Disqus today. The
      Conservative forums are filled with grump/angry old men who never
      quite made it in their life and they are looking for someone to blame it on.

  • Pepin Tuma

    What’s awesome about this is how in the 4 years since,they’re totally out of date, showing the President has been a tremendous success in the face of the most obstinate opposition the country has ever seen.

  • lily

    It’s a few years later now, and your post is a joke.