If Romney, Cain Or Perry Gets The Republican Nomination It Is Going To Be An Absolute Disaster For America

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Over the past couple of months, the mainstream media has been telling us that Mitt Romney, Herman Cain and Rick Perry are the “top tier” candidates and that none of the other Republicans that are running really have a legitimate shot at winning the nomination.  Well, if either Romney, Cain or Perry wins the nomination it is going to be an absolute disaster for America.  The United States cannot afford another four years of Barack Obama.  But we cannot afford four years of Romney, Cain or Perry either.  All three of them have deep ties to the establishment, all three of them are clueless about how to fix what is wrong with this country and all three of them would continue most of the failed policies of the Bush/Obama era.  The United States is running out of time, and if we are going to turn things around we need to make fundamental changes right now.  But if either Romney, Cain or Perry wins the nomination we will almost certainly be guaranteed four more years of rapid decline.


One of the great myths of this election season is that Romney, Cain and Perry are conservatives.  Even though all three of them are trying to claim that label, the truth is far from that.  At best, Herman Cain and Rick Perry are political moderates with deep, deep ties to the establishment.  Mitt Romney is so liberal that someone needs to tell him that he is in the wrong political party.

But in the final analysis it really doesn’t matter whether they call themselves “Democrats” or “Republicans”, because increasingly our two major political parties are becoming just two sides of the same coin.  The Democrats and the Republicans are both funded by the elite, they are both controlled by the elite and they both serve the purposes of the elite.

That is why it is absolutely imperative that we send someone to the White House that is not already bought and paid for.  If we elect another “establishment candidate” in 2012, we will get the same results that we have been getting for the past 50 years.

Fortunately, it looks like Rick Perry is melting down faster than the wicked witch in the Wizard of Oz did.  The 53 seconds of video posted below are destined to become the most famous 53 seconds in Republican debate history….

Not that Herman Cain would be any better than Rick Perry.  Even if you totally disregard the charges of sexual misconduct, there is no way that Herman Cain should ever get any votes from any Republican voter.

The “999 plan” has become very well known, but it turns out that Herman Cain can’t speak intelligently about much of anything else.

During the Republican debate on CNBC the other night, the moderators desperately tried to get Herman Cain to talk about something other than the “999 plan”.  But Cain included the “999 plan” in virtually every single answer that he gave, and he seemed unable to answer questions about much of anything else.  As you can see from the video highlights below, it got to the point of absurdity….

The sad thing is that most Americans don’t even realize yet that the “999 plan” would significantly raise taxes on the vast majority of middle class Americans.

For instance, consider the following example from an analysis of the “999 plan” that was recently discussed in the Des Moines Register….

“The bottom line: A family with an income level of $40,000 to $50,000 would pay $3,407 more a year in taxes”

But perhaps the worst Republican candidate of all is Mitt Romney.  If you closely examine the positions that Romney has taken, it quickly becomes apparent that a Romney administration would be very, very similar to the Obama administration.  In fact, most Americans would probably notice next to no difference between the two presidencies.

The financial powers on Wall Street love this guy.  They are absolutely pouring cash into his campaign.  He has received more Wall Street cash than all of the other Republican candidates combined by a very wide margin.

The thing with Romney is that he is a consummate politician.  His handlers have studied the public opinion polls and they have carefully crafted political positions which are designed to give him the best chance of winning the Republican nomination and of winning the general election.

In fact, these positions are constantly being “tweaked”.  If Romney sounds a little bit different now than he did a couple of months ago it is not by accident.

Many believe that this is a guy that will do or say just about anything to get elected.

Mitt Romney’s wife, Ann Romney, once made the following statement about her husband….

“He can argue any side of a question. And sometimes you think he’s really believing his argument, but he’s not.”

So how do we know if he is telling the truth now?

Romney’s flip-flopping has become absolutely legendary.  Just consider the examples in the following video….

This next video contains even more examples of flip-flopping by Romney….

One of the most important things to evaluate these candidates on is what they plan to do about the Federal Reserve.

As I have written about so many times, the Federal Reserve is at the very core of our economic and financial problems.

But these candidates don’t even consider the Fed to be an issue.

Mitt Romney says that he is “not going to take my effort and focus on the Federal Reserve“.

After all, he is the golden boy of Wall Street and there is no way that he is going to do anything to upset the apple cart.

Herman Cain was once the chairman of the Kansas City Federal Reserve Board, and he thinks that the Federal Reserve is just wonderful.

The following is what Herman Cain once had to say about the need for an audit of the Federal Reserve….

Some people say that we ought to audit the Fed. Here’s what I do know. The Federal Reserve already has so many internal audits it’s ridiculous. I don’t know why people think we’re gonna learn this great amount of information by auditing the Federal Reserve.

I think a lot of people are calling for this audit of the Federal Reserve because they don’t know enough about it. There’s no hidden secrets going on in the Federal Reserve to my knowledge.

If you are a Republican, you should take all three of these “top tier” candidates and just scratch them right off your list.

All three of them would be a complete disaster for the country.  In fact, if Romney is elected president it would essentially be the same thing as sending Barack Obama back to the White House for another term.

The American people deserve better than another “false choice” in 2012.

But if the Republicans nominate either Romney, Cain or Perry that is exactly what we are going to be faced with.

  • mondobeyondo

    Of course, if Barack Obama wins a second term, it will be an absolute disaster for America as well.

    It’s starting to look like we’re screwed, no matter how you look at it.

  • Jim

    You never seem to give any solutions Michael. You ask questions but never have any answers and this is a silly question.

    It will be Cain, Romney, Perry, or Obama. So what would you like us to do? Get out there and riot with Occupy Wall Street? LOL.

    • Michael

      I do give solutions.

      Just read the end of this article….


      Also, it would greatly help if you would vote for someone other than Romney, Cain, Perry or especially Obama.


      • Jim

        Ok, so you want me to write in some other name? Are you kidding me? It’s always going to be the lesser of two evils, unfortunately.

      • mondobeyondo

        I plan to vote for Ron Paul. He hasn’t had any sexual abuse scandals, hasn’t had a brain freeze on stage during a debate, and seems to have sensible solutions. If only the media would give him more attention. *sigh*




        “If Romney, Cain Or Perry Gets The Republican Nomination It Is Going To Be An Absolute Disaster For America.”

    • expatriot

      Why don’t you give us some answers smart ass. You’re a lazy ass who soaks up the good stuff Michael puts out and then you complain. Guys like you and there are a lot of them, make me want to cancel my internet service. We live in a weak, cry baby ass country. It’s the same ******* with silver investors. What Mike said in this article, I haven’t heard before but it’s the truth. The whole country, for the most part thinks if we get a new president things will change. Michaels service is telling us it won’t. As many articles as he writes, with at least three different websites is all I need to know.

    • No solutions? You havent read much of Michael’s stuff?

      To me it seems that if you go back to the constitution, support & enforce the rights of citizens & protect our borders (financial, physical, national, etc) then we will begin to get our country back.

      The whole reason we are in the mess we are is because our civil idiot savants errr… I mean civil servants have left these things by the wayside.

      However I think its too late to turn this ship around, its like the titanic & we are headed for a crash.

    • A Dodgy Bloke

      I’ll give you solutions start a garden, stock up on food, learn a useful skill and get a gun (Preferably three, a handgun, .22 rifle a rifle or a shotgun minimum) and lots of ammo get a CCW. Burglar proof your house, and learn to shoot, tactical shooting is much different than range shooting. The Titanic is taking water is going down by the head who’s on the bridge really doesn’t matter.

    • BraneFrees

      Jim old chum, regarding your statement:

      “You never seem to give any solutions Michael. You ask questions but never have any answers and this is a silly question.”

      First off, the article wasn’t a question. It was a statement of facts.

      Then you say:

      “It will be Cain, Romney, Perry, or Obama. So what would you like us to do? Get out there and riot with Occupy Wall Street? LOL.”

      So what would you like us to do??? Give me a break!

      You sound for all the world like a sheep looking for a shepherd. Take the facts and work out your own answers.

      Or just be an Obama Democrat and do what you’re told. I think that might be the best path for you.

  • mondobeyondo

    “…The Federal Reserve already has so many internal audits it’s ridiculous…” – Herman Cain

    INTERNAL audits!! Aw, hell. Bovine excrement!! You can manipulate and cover up things all you want, to your heart’s desire, if it’s an INTERNAL audit. What do you think the Fed’s been doing all these years?!?

    How about an audit from an EXTERNAL source or agency? Some organization that doesn’t have connections with the Fed as cronies or friends. That’s what Ron Paul is calling for.

    • mondobeyondo

      Excellent example: The Penn State debacle.

      Assistant football coach molests little boys. Joe Paterno and several others are told, and are aware of it. It’s an “internal matter”, so there’s no need to tell the police. Penn State will take care of it. Really??? So now, JoePa’s been fired, Penn State’s president has been fired, and the fallout from the affair (no pun intended!) has brought shame on the entire university.

      The truth leaks out eventually…

  • D

    Get ready for the Ultimate Distraction, 2012! We will get to see who the oligarch banks hand select and dump money onto the most! Nothing gets done, but who cares? It’s a riot! Anybody game for knocking down R and D candidate signs when the polls start?

    I think we should organize an economic collapse blog party when that time comes. All the characters on this blog get to meet face-to-face and discuss our wonderful future. I’ll bring some delicious fruitcake for all of you to enjoy. Any takers?

    • Michael

      Delicious fruitcake?


      • roadrunner

        FRUITCAKE !!!!!! I’ll take it all if you guys dont want any. Heres my plastic bag.

    • Highspeedloafer

      I will eat a whole loaf of claxton fruitcake in Dec. It will last me for an entire year.

    • Joe Johnson

      I’m in.

  • A Randall

    Yes sir America’s problems are coming home to roost mostly from what the Democrats have done these past few decades. I am still a Bachman supporter but will support Ron Paul if she steps out. Would never vote for Romney, Perry or Cain, never.

    We have at least 40 million illegals with 3 – 4 million illegals crossing every year who vote, collect benefits, rape, rob, murder and steal, dont pay taxes collect benefits then slowly vote you out of your own country. Oh by the way the tab for illegals is about 1/2 a trillion.

    The debt is over 100 trillion although the corrupt and evil government & media state it is 15 trillion. US currency has fallen 20 % this year and will continue to head south for years. I predict the Mexican Peso will have a higher degree of value than the dollar by 2014. Most Americans just aren’t intelligent enough to fathom this especially the MSNBC and CNN watchers otherwise known as Democrats.

    Most likely it is to late to save the country but for those that want to try here are a few items.

    1. Deport all foreign national regardless of the force needed.

    2. When born here at least one parent must be a citizen for the child to be a citizen.

    3. The Constitution must be taught in grades 5 – 12 spending at least 6 weeks every year on this document requiring all students to test out on this material.

    4. Send every moronic American a statement on the total tax paid for the year.

    Lastly it was you corrupt Democrats who destroyed this country.

    • A.S.

      To all True Americans! Vote for Ron Paul! He is the Paul Revere of today. His warnings were 100% accurate. Heck, he is an almost duplicate of Ross Perot, who foretold of job losses in the millions if we joined NAFTA.

      But most Americans are drugged, dumbed-down, overweight, depressed, immoral animals. They will vote for whomever the Bilderberg-controlled media tells them to vote for. Good Bye America! Hello to another 4 years of Obama or his facsimile.

      Some people may take offense what I said, but I don’t care. I love this country dearly, that is what it used to be. And it pains me greatly to have to leave it and move to another country (location disclosed) where I can still live a life of “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness,” even if I will be poor there.

      • Hi there

        You speak the truth and have been informed. I also feel the same as you and will eventually take my know-how, capital, and energy to another country to live the American Dream and start a small business. How sad…

        • alexander asis

          well fine, come to our country, your free and you can enjoy the rest of your life through a tropical breeze and temperate climate,

      • Gay Veteran

        “…where I can still live a life of “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness,” even if I will be poor there….”

        but what if Teh Gays are there also enjoying “the pursuit of happiness”?

    • Hi there

      Great point you got here but you lost me when you pointed the blame solely on the Democrats. It was both Rep. and Dem. that brought us to this impending financial nightmare which is only just beginning and to only blame the Dem. is disingenuous or should I say disinformation.

    • Rowell

      Where are you getting your numbers from? 40 million illegals in America? Really? Last year it was 12 million, and that’s with the current administration deporting record numbers.

      If we’re going to talk about problems, let’s not inflate numbers or use gross exagerations. It simply doesn’t help matters. Sensationalism is a part of the problem, and we should try to stop.

  • Kharkov

    Romney is the front-runner, it’s true despite the fact that many Republicans are saying that they’d rather have anyone BUT Mitt Romney.

    Hence the surge of support for Perry and then Cain. Now that their star is fading, Gingrich might get a boost but his history will make that a short boost.

    There’s always Ron Hunstman. He’s actually in the race, he’s about as right-wing as Reagan was and just as pragmatic (willing to raise taxes on the rich, he’s said it.)

    And he’s not Mitt Romney. He puts his country first, he was AMERICA’S ambassador to China not OBAMA’s ambassador to China.

    A dedicated, patriotic, pragmatic, reasonably intelligent man? The Republicans could do far worse…

  • KyTim89

    What about Ron Paul?

  • Pauly

    This is a nightmare.

  • Gary2

    Good article Michael although its so easy to rip on republicans…

    What a big moran-a-thon the debates are.

    The one thing I find ironic is how much the right wing hate radio crowd hates Mitt yet he will be their man.

    You are seeing the republican party in its death spiral and I for one am glad to see them go down hard.

    It is obvious that Obama will win reelection. This shows how rigged the system is. I know there is no such thing as a good republican but they went out of their way to pick these dolts? They really must want 4 more years of Obama? (much better than ANY republican but still not good)

  • mark

    There was an article At PJ Media about the picks of the republican party for president. The republicans do not tend to pick a true conservative. Reagan was to the right of center, but the Federal government grew and the debt exploded in his 8 years. He said a lot of conservative principals and we still did not have a fence. He did a great job in cutting taxes, but that formula does not work without spending cuts. The last time the republicans picked a real conservative was Goldwater and that did not turn out so well. Americans seem to be just center right. Our country has more and more voters collecting checks or not paying taxes. I doubt that these voters will vote for a conservative that would reduce their checks. If we are to make the changes this country needs the change will come from Congress. That means we need to get small government types elected to congress. The President needs the skills to run the executive branch. Obama does not have these skills. Look at his results. He sucks. He fills positions with socialists and we are ending up with less freedom. His answer for more jobs is to hire more government workers. Besides the costs to pay them today, the future pension costs will be a disaster. Like it or not Ron Paul or Gary Johnson will not get elected. We would have the same results as with Goldwater. I for one would support a balanced budget next year. We would go into a deep depression with a lot of pain. The share of GDP from borrowed government money taken away would cause a huge drop in GDP. That is just some of the pain we would feel in order to repair the problems of the last 40 or so years. I would bet that over 90% of the voters would not be willing to go this route. Perry is just a idiot. He needs to go back home and lick his wounds that he did to himself. Mr. Cain has business experence, maybe a Sec of Commerce job, but nothing with the treasury and the Fed. That leaves Romney out of the three. It is nuts to compare him to be almost the sames as Obama. Romney is not a socialist. If his history in business shows his thinking, when a company needs to cut out the fat in order to make a profit, he should be tough enough to make some cuts to our government. Obama will not cut. He also has experence in running big things. He has experence turning around problem companies. Maybe that experence would come in handy as President. He seems to be able to think on his feet that some of the others can’t. Both Romney and Obama seem to have been good Family men. Hey Reed, you can’t attack me on that one. Newt has not always come out with conservative principals. He has not been a good Family man. Maybe Newt for VP or a Sec of State. Bachman is great in Congress. All of you Romney haters out there,if you keep this up we will end up with 4 more years of Obama and this will be the end of freedom in this country. Like it or not we are not going to get a small government type this time around. The choice will be which guy will be the largest government type and you all know Obama will be the larger of the two.


    Key: C(Cain), P(Perry), R(Romney)

    (1) Lower corporate tax rate from 35% to: C(9), P(20),R(25)

    (2) Lower capital gains tax rate from 15% to: C(0), P(0), R(0*)

    (3) Change individual tax rate to C(9+9%), P(20%*), R(no change)

    (4) Cut federal spending from 24% of GDP to C(balanced budget), P(18% of GDP), R(20% of GDP)

    * See the following article for more details.


    In summary:

    (1) 3 plans to dramatically reduce taxes, particularly on wealthy Americans and corporations.

    (2) Based on the 2012 budget year, spending cuts as a percentage of current spending would be approximately C(30), P(24), R(17)


    (3) Nothing new here – just the same old broken record that President Reagan placed on the turntable 30 years ago with the following results.

    Percent Increase in The National Debt by President (adjusted for inflation)

    Carter 0
    Reagan 110 (2 terms)
    Bush 33
    Clinton 13 (2 terms)
    Bush 46 (2 terms)
    Obama 50 (first year x 4)

    (4) Government spending can not be cut by 17 to 30 percent without a massive increase in unemployment.

    (5) If tax cuts really created jobs in the USA, we would not see a significant increase in the national debt.

    (6) For the past 30 years, tax cuts have been a complete failure so it is now time to make offshore operations less profitable (higher taxes) rather than making domestic operations more profitable (lower taxes).

    There is no provision in any of these plans to do this.

    • Michael

      Wow a lot of great data in that comment.



    • Joe Johnson

      You have covered everything nicely, but I would emphasize that balanced budgets do not equate to economic health. There have been more than a few incidences in American history where balanced budgets preceeded major economic downswings with high unemployment. In addition, corporations in America at this moment are sitting on trillions they will not invest into the American economy. They are using their vast hoard to expand overseas where they build facilities and take advantage of very cheap labor. If the governmmnet decides at the very same time to dramatically reign in spending, our economy will become even more mired than it is already.

    • mad okie

      Reagan had a democratic congress, Clinton had a republican congress, congress controls the purse strings, Bush 2 have 9/11 (and if you look at trends the debt was going down until the dems took over congress again

      • Gay Veteran

        hey, mad okie, don’t you know that the President has to sign or veto the budget passed by Congress

    • jed

      No kidding, great data – why don’t you ask Michael for a weekly guest spot – the two of you would make a great team.

    • Gay Veteran

      “…(4) Government spending can not be cut by 17 to 30 percent without a massive increase in unemployment….”

      Karl Denninger (one of the cofounders of the Tea Party Movement) points out that a large cut in government spending would mean a reduction in GDP. So unemployment would go up.

      • knightowl77

        GDP is a number….Gov’t spending makes up more than a quarter of GDP….W/O Gov’t spending we would actually have a negative GDP today….so yes, cutting Gov’t spending would lower the GDP number but it would have a small effect on the private sector…..the only businesses that would be hurt are those that do business with the government…the rest of the private sector would be fine…

        • Without job creation, unemployment will expand from current 9.0 percent to R(12.7), P(14.5), C(15.4)

          Government spending includes the cost of the public sector where the effect would be large….

    • (7) Proposed corporate tax cuts will not create jobs in the USA. Corporations only add employees for the following reason:

      Increased demand for the goods / services offered by the corporation

      This demand can be actual (backlog ) or forecast. Research and development employees are usually hired based on forecast demand.

      Consider the following 2 corporations:

      Corporation A – provides goods / services from domestic operations

      Corporation B – provides goods / services from offshore operations

      Conservatives argue that a tax cut would give corporation A an opportunity to lower selling prices and increase demand (economics 101). This is what is wrong with this argument:

      Corporation B will be getting the same tax cut

      Corporate executives are smarter than politicians (unless they run for public office).

      (a) They will not throw away money that could be used for a larger year end bonus.

      (b) They will not risk missing budgeted profits by lowering selling prices unless forced to do so by free market competition. Corporate executives that miss budgeted profits usually join the ranks of the unemployed.

      (8) Spending cuts without job creation will continue to expand unemployment.

      (9) Tax cuts without job creation will continue to expand the national debt.

  • A.S.

    Regarding cutting government agencies: I have an idea: ELIMINATE ALL OF THEM!

  • Justa Guy

    Lazy and ignorant Americans love dumpster diving for candidates such as these. I hope they will enjoy dumpster diving for their meals in the very near future when no significant change happens…

  • Justa Guy

    Rub-a-dub-dub, 3 phonies in a tub (or dumpster)

  • John

    1.) Historically, the candidate with the most money wins 94% of the time. Just follow the money.
    2.) You will never change things by hiring new politicians.

  • RevBryan

    Looks like the kleptocracy is going to win whether it is BHO or one of the dismal trio. Sad.
    One other suggestion: we ought to balance our trade figures with other countries, that is, we will only buy as much from them as they buy from us.
    It would be wise to end the fed and restore the value of our currency to metal standard. We would have to dump the debts that the government holds but that is a small price to pay for keeping our country intact.
    Our economic and political woes will not be lessened by the current slate of front runners for the WH. I’ll stick to Ron Paul. Great man, great message.

  • Joe Johnson

    It’s Manny, Moe and Jack. Of course Moe correlates to Perry who could also be one of the three stooges.
    Because evengelical inbreds determine viable candidates for the right this is the type of field presented to all. They’re not even smart enough to realize they are voting against their own economic interest with any one of these charlatans. Romney is your typical double talking corporate CEO, Cain is a lying sack of crap with regard to the accusations against him as well as the “fairness” of his 9-9-9 plan, which of course heavily favors corporations and the top 5% income earners. The top 1% especially spend a much smaller percentage of their income on consumption than do the rest of us, and much of that income is from capital gains and dividends which they want to make tax free. It’s another win-win for the elites.

  • William

    You should have added in Bachmann and Gingrich. Paul is the ONLY America-First candidate in the Republican field.

  • El Pollo de Oro

    If Ron Paul could get the Republican nomination, he might do well in the general election because so many Americans are absolutely fed up with Wall Street and fed up with politics as usual. But realistically, Ron Paul’s chances of getting the GOP nomination are slim and none. No way would someone with his anti-corporatist, anti-federal reserve, anti-imperialist, anti-prison/industrial complex positions get the party nomination. So in Nov. 2012, the presidential election will be won by either Barack “Goldman Sachs” Obama or a charlatan from the GOP side of the neocon corporatist peanut gallery (probably the latter because incumbent presidents usually get voted out of office when the economy is in bad shape—and this economic nightmare is much, much worse than the early 1980s or early 1990s). Either way, The Banana Republic of America is screwed. Things won’t improve under President Goldman Sachs, and they won’t improve under clueless neocon corporatist buffoons like Romney, Perry and Cain.

    “I heard this guy Herman Cain, the pizza king running for president, saying that Occupy Wall Street are anti-capitalist. You got it wrong, Herman. It’s anti-capitalist to bail out banks and to bail out your buddies. That’s anti-capitalist. If you or I fail, nobody bails us out. In capitalism, you’re supposed to rise and fall on your own merits.”—Gerald Celente

    “You heard Eric ‘Kiddie’ Cantor say that he was afraid of mob rule down on Wall Street. Oh, you’re afraid, little cutie baby? How about going down there yourself and walking through the crowds?”—Gerald Celente

    Republi-con corporatist or Demo-crap corporatist, the BRA will only go from bad to worse and become more and more of a wretched Third World hellhole. God help us. The future looks so unbelievably grim for The Banana Republic of America (formerly the USA).

    • mondobeyondo

      There’s always hope though. Hope, and Change. [gag!!]

  • Joe Johnson

    Cain be just shucken and jiven.

  • mondobeyondo

    And this is the best we can do?

    A nation that has come up with men like Washington, Jefferson, Jackson, Lincoln, Roosevelt, Kennedy, etc. in the past… and this is what we have to choose from now? Ugh!

    Granted, some of those past presidents were great, some not so great. But compared to the clowns now running (Bozos, Krustys, Ronald McDonalds, and the like) – I’d pick any one of those former presidents.

    • mondobeyondo

      Too bad Godfather’s Pizza doesn’t have a pizza clown for a mascot. Guess Herman Cain will have to settle for being the Hamburglar (from McDonald Land).

      • El Pollo de Oro

        Here’s an idea for a Herman Cain campaign commercial: He runs around dressed like a giant pizza while dancing to the “Tarantella” and saying, in broken Italian, “Buon giorno, mafiosi di Wall Street. Io mi chiamo Herman Cain. Votare per me, per favore, and I’m a gonna bake you a pizza and give a you a bailout anytime you need it. Capish? Va bene allora. Oh, and I never pay attention that nasty Ron Paul or that Gerald Celente guy.”

  • Colin

    “I heard this guy Herman Cain, the pizza king running for president, saying that Occupy Wall Street are anti-capitalist. You got it wrong, Herman. It’s anti-capitalist to bail out banks and to bail out your buddies. That’s anti-capitalist. If you or I fail, nobody bails us out. In capitalism, you’re supposed to rise and fall on your own merits.”—Gerald Celente

    Cain is right in saying that most of OWS IS anti-capitalist and want money for nothing. OWS nut-jobs are there for weeks on end because they don’t have jobs to go to or any other life responsibilities. The whole movement is wealth envy on steroids which is why they’d be happy to take yours, even if you make $60,000/yr.

    Of course its anti-capitalist to bail out banks, however most of the idiots in these protests don’t even know that Tim Geithner was appointed by Obama or that Obama has actually supported TARP and escalated the wars. Most of these morons will vote for him in a heart-beat given the choice.

    • Joe Johnson

      You conveneintly have passed over the morons on the right that represent the Teabaggers. These are people on medicare while collecting social security that want government out of their health care and to cut deficit spending. The spending cuts they are unwittingly promoting are cuts in their very own SS payouts. Talk about morons. In any case the OWS movement was ignited over the public bailout of the top 1 % in a country were the wealthiest have gone from owning 9% of the national income to 25%. This spread will surely widen as this depression we are in worsens. You, as most on the right, have no clue what you are talking about.

  • Ron

    In 1968 George Wallace had a slogan:

    Richard Nixon gave America Affirmative Action, Ronald Reagan expanded it and AMNESTIED in 1986 untold numbers of illegal aliens which set off a BABY BOOM among illegals in the US.

    Ron Paul is the only Republican running, period.

    The GOP Wants To Lose the Presidential Election
    by Karen Kwiatkowski, Ph.D., retired USAF lieutenant colonel

    Immigrants continue to pour in and take American’s jobs, Obama gave effective amnesty to the rest of the illegals, including work permits, back on August 18, 2011.
    None of the GOP contenders said a word, NOT ONE.

    And the media is SILENT about the EPIDEMIC of this sort of war being waged on the streets of America:
    Video shows man being punched at Red Line stop amid laughs and taunts

    Note how very careful the Chicago Tribune reporter is not to note the “background” of her fellow demographic.

    Meanwhile Pat Buchanan is given the big media censorship and no outrage is expressed: Why MSNBC Analyst Pat Buchanan Won’t be on MSNBC to Promote his Book

    White people pay this guy BIG MONEY to insult them and he speaks his mind on his favorite, oh and Ben Stiller’s favorite also:

    CHRIS ROCK: Obama going to do some gangsta sh*t

    • El Pollo de Oro

      The corporatist anti-capitalist ruling class in The Banana Republic of America love it when street thugs terrorize innocent people because the more fearful people are, the more likely they will be to give up their civil liberties and accept the police state. Alex Jones is right: we are in deep, deep tyranny in the BRA. God help our dying republic. And God bless the Second Amendment because street thugs who take enough bullets in the heart become former street thugs in a hurry.

  • James

    I’m voting either for myself or Zombie Goldwater… or both.

    At this point, voting for president is like voting for the captain of the Titanic *after* it hit the iceberg.

    “Hey, do you want this ship to veer left or right on it’s way to the bottom of the ocean?”

  • Unless the Rethuglicans come up with some surprise candidate not already in the running, it probably will be Romney. But if they want to have a person who could beat Obama, they’d have to pick Ron Paul…but, if Ron Paul really was the man who could do what he says he wants to do, he’d probably be ************* before he even gets inaugurated. But if he is just the biggest controlled opposition person in US history (and the elites knew he wouldn’t change anything) then he wouldn’t be ****************…

    In any case, the US is screwed for the most part, Ron Paul or no Ron Paul (but if I can I’ll vote for him anyway, even if I think he would be ********************, which doesn’t mean he would be)

  • jed

    Does it really matter who is elected president?
    It seems to me that we can have a greater effect focusing on our congressional representatives at both state and national levels. Right now a president of either party is powerful because he is backed by knee-jerk moronic representatives who think they are on Family Feud and who think that their job is to make sure that their family scores the most points. If we stop electing knee-jerk morons who always vote their party line, even when the party line suddenly makes a 180 degree u-turn, we might start getting somewhere.

    People write to this blog slagging off the candidates they don’t like and ignoring the shortcomings of the ones they do like. And everyone seems to think that a solution to our problems is finding the perfect president (i.e. someone who will always agree with them). That is not what democracy is about. Democracy is about promoting what you believe in, but compromising if the compromise will help your country even a bit. We need candidates (and citizens) who focus less on their egos and their own wants, and more on what will actually make the country stronger, better and fairer for all of its citizens.

    Whatever we think of Obama, he was right on the mark when he said that we are the change we should believe in. In other words, if you want a successful democracy, get off your butt and do something to change the world: volunteer, educate people, inspire people, help people, get involved in local issues you believe in, boycott companies that have unethical practices. Write to your local paper with a well-thought-out, fact-filled article on what is wrong or right with a candidate – but don’t just rant and call names because people who do so are not taken seriously.

    I admire the OWS crowd for their effort. Are they coherent and logical? Well, at least as coherent and logical as most of our politicians (and our politicians are getting paid large salaries to supposedly spend at least forty hours a week educating themselves about our problems). The OWS crowd realizes that our country has been hi-jacked: it is run by dishonest, greedy politicians-corporations-banks. The OWS crowd did not have a platform where they could be heard over the noise of the 1%, so they took a risk and created a platform. And they were heard – despite being ridiculed by the elite and by the media, they have fundamentally changed the national dialogue in the last two months. Don’t believe me? Go back and look at the social/political issues that were getting airtime/headlines before and after OWS.

    It is easy to write an anonymous reply to a blog. It is more difficult to go out into the real world and try to make a change. Maybe OWS doesn’t have answers, but they have forced the 1% to face up to the fact that out present paradigm is grossly injust.

    If you are reading and responding to this blog, great. But what are you going to do this week to help change the paradigm? Preaching to the choir doesn’t count.

  • A Dodgy Bloke

    I think one of the things everybody can agree on is some people on Wall Street need to go to jail. The TBTF banks need to be broken up and the Fed abolished, and Government need to be cut and people need to be told they half to take more responsibility for their own lives. Failing that our present trajectory toward the ground will not change and we will hit the ground at a very high MACH number.
    About Cain Mitt and Perry, Perry’s gaff during the debates was hilarious. I don’t think it will affect his campaign. The problem is either one of these three or BO is going to be the next POTUS. Until people vote outside the red blue thing nothing will change. Too many people get their news from the MSN and are incapable of rational critical thinking. I think it’ll be Mitt and Perry and BO and uncle Joe who wins will depends on events. 2014 or 2015 it all ends in tears. Remember where you heard it first.

    • Hefsmaster

      You can’t have critical thinking without adding in the “irrational” thoughts also. That’s why it’s called critical… Leave no stone untouched and turned in the search for the truth…

  • John

    I think we need to get off the idea that the 999 plan is going to cause people under $50,000 to pay more taxes. It is likely true, since they currently pay no income tax. Why is it so bad for people to have to pay a modest tax to be part of the citizenry of this great country? Everyone should pay a tax, no matter your success or state of poverty. Cain’s 9% is fine. Everyone should pay the same rate. We all get the freedoms and protections and some people get the same services. (Currently, people over $50,000/yr pay for all the services but are allotted none of them). Time to be American… whether you are poor or rich. We all get equal rights, and our tax rate should be equal as well.

    • Gary2

      Your drunk right?

  • John

    Either way… everyone needs to vote for whoever is running against Obama. If not, Obama will win! If there is a third party that is not liberal… Obama will win! One thing we can not have happen is allow this socialist-in-charge to get re-elected by the media-elite.

    • Gary2

      I wish he was socialist. He is way too conservative.

      Your comments are devoid of any rational thought much less any facts.

  • Mike

    Romney is not a liberal and he is the only one who can beat Obama.

    IT’S ABOUT THE NUMBERS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0s8eKg2b8I&feature=player_embedded

    • Justa Guy

      Ramyou should be a used-car salesman…he talks just like one, and his truth varies by the deal. He’d be a great salesman for tickets to hell, so if that’s where you want to take this country, vote for him (is he your lesser-of-two-evils for this election?).

  • Texan Patriot

    Like Marc Faber said, “We are dooooomed.”

  • Hondo

    Ron Paul is the ONLY person running that is worth of such an high office.
    If he is not elected President, I will tell everyone why…..
    In God’s word it is written that “All the nations that forget God, will be turned into hell”
    Now, THAT is from Him who knows all things and controls all things.
    Pray all you believers….PRAY

  • Ref:”But in the final analysis it really doesn’t matter whether they call themselves “Democrats” or “Republicans”, because increasingly our two major political parties are becoming just two sides of the same coin.”

    You got that right!…been sayin’ that for years!

    BTW, have you ever wondered why Bush 41 and Bill Clinton became best of friends as soon as the left office? …repeat your two sides of the same coin line here and then add, “They’re both new-world-order guys.”
    The FED is an integral part of the new world order (but you knew that!)

  • Robert Steup

    Add Newt to the list – he IS NOT a conservative!!!

    A John Birch Society video of “conservative” Newt Gingrich has been re re posted on the 912 project – see it here:

  • In the end, most Evangelicals and Neo Caths will vote GOP, tey will, again, throw the baby under the bus and vote what they think is “lesser evil”, never advancing an agenda, pushing anything, just stop-gapping, though, less stopping these days….they live in Fantasy Land….and must be nice…….though their grittedteeth belay the nice that should be….

  • CC

    This is why I won’t be voting for any of the
    two parties.