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All Over America Evangelical Christians Are Being Labeled As “Extremists” And “Hate Groups”

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All Over America Evangelical Christians Are Being Labeled As Extremists And Hate GroupsAre evangelical Christians rapidly becoming one of the most hated minorities in America?  Once upon a time such a notion would have been unthinkable, but these days things are changing dramatically.  All over the United States, evangelical Christians are being called “extremists” and evangelical Christian organizations are being labeled as “hate groups”.  In fact, as I will detail later on in this article, a U.S. Army Reserve training presentation recently specifically identified evangelical Christians as “religious extremists”.  This should be extremely chilling for all evangelical Christians out there, because as history has shown us over and over again, when you want to persecute a particular group of people the first step is always to demonize them.  And that is exactly what is being done to evangelical Christians today.  Just look at how evangelical Christians are being portrayed on television and in the movies.  Just look at how much hate is being spewed at Christians on the Internet.  The Southern Poverty Law Center and the ACLU, both of which are considered to be among the most prominent “civil rights” organizations in the United States, are seemingly obsessed with attacking evangelical Christians.  It has become trendy to bash Christians, and that is a very frightening thing.  After they have finished demonizing evangelical Christians, what will the next step be?

A U.S. Army Reserve equal opportunity training presentation entitled “Extremism and Extremist Organizations” actually included “Evangelical Christianity” as an example of “Religious Extremism” in a list that also included al-Qaeda, Hamas and the Ku Klux Klan.  You can find a copy of the entire presentation right here.

Is this how evangelical Christians will be treated in the future?  Will evangelical Christians be treated like members of the Ku Klux Klan or like members of al-Qaeda?

The following is how a Christian Post article described this chilling report…

A U.S. Army Reserve Equal Opportunity training brief describes “Evangelical Christianity” and “Catholicism” as examples of “religious extremism,” according to the Archdiocese for the Military Services and the Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty, who shared a copy of the documents with The Christian Post.

“The number of hate groups, extremists and anti‐govt organizations in the U.S. has continued to grow over the past three years, according to reports by the Southern Poverty Law Center. They increased to 1,018 in 2011, up from 1,002 in 2010 and 602 in 2000,” reads the first page of the slide presentation labeled “Extremism & Extremist Organizations.”

Listed alongside “extremist” groups and organizations like the Klu Klux Klan and al-Qaida, the U.S. Army slideshow has “Evangelical Christianity” as the first bullet, followed by the Muslim Brotherhood, Ultra-Orthodox Judaism and farther down on the slide, Catholicism.

Posted below is a picture of the slide entitled “Religious Extremism”…

Religious Extremism

Below that slide there is accompanying text that condemns any religion that believes that it is the only “right way” and that believes that other religions are wrong…

Extremism is a complex phenomenon; it is defined as beliefs, attitudes, feelings, actions, or strategies of a character far removed from the “ordinary.” Because “ordinary” is subjective, no religious group would label itself extreme or its doctrine “extremism.” However, religious extremism is not limited to any single religion, ethnic group, or region of the world; every religion has some followers that believe that their beliefs, customs and traditions are the only “right way” and that all others are practicing their faith the “wrong way,” seeing and believing that their faith/religion superior to all others.

Well, that is exactly what evangelical Christians believe.  They believe that the death of Jesus Christ on the cross is the only payment for sin and thus the only way to be reconciled to God.  Unfortunately, this belief is now enough to be labeled as a “religious extremist”.

And sadly this is far from an isolated incident.  Since Barack Obama was first elected, Christians have been demonized in government report after government report.  In a previous article entitled “Patriots And Christians Have Been Repeatedly Labeled As Potential Terrorists Since Obama Became President” I detailed many of these instances.

But of course it is not just the government that is demonizing Christians these days.

Just look at what the reaction on social media has been to the death of the son of Pastor Rick Warren.

A lot of people out there have decided to use the death of his mentally ill son as an opportunity to spew hatred toward Pastor Rick Warren and his faith.  The following are a few examples of this hate that have been posted on Twitter…

@Goatyeah Rick Warren compared Gay 2 mental illness/his son just killed himself 4 mental illness..Is Karma paying a visit 2 the ?

@WagCasey So pastor Rick Warren’s son killed himself? Gee, I wonder what drove him to that?

@BarberaLaPeters @BryanJFischer well after all the dead gay kids Rick Warren is responsible for, I guess one of his is a small price to pay.

@SamirPerez Was @RickWarren‘s son gay? Maybe conversion therapy, condemnation and hatred towards gays was too much for matt…

@War_of_Kings I wonder if Rick Warren’s son was gay and killed himself because of his father’s anti-gay bashing?

@rashid7053 @BlazePhoenix_ I would’ve committed suicide if my dad was Rick Warren too.

@GinsburgJobs @marlenan21 Rick Warren has done terrible damage; my first thought was that his son was gay thats why he did it. Its sad for the boy.

@anyprophet so who else is shocked that rick warren drove his gay son to suicide?

@TheReallyRick Son of Saddleback Church pastor Rick Warren has committed suicide. Place your bets on when its discovered he was gay.

Sadly, those are some of the cleaner examples.  There are many more which include language that is definitely not appropriate for children to read.

So why are evangelical Christians hated so much?  Well, the truth is that they are primarily hated because of what they believe.  Attempts to intimidate evangelical Christians into changing their beliefs continue to become more frightening.  The following are just a few examples…

1 – A student at Florida Atlantic University was recently suspended from class for refusing “to write the word ‘Jesus’ on a piece of paper, fold it up, and step on it.”

2 – A 14-year-old homeschooler in Maryland received multiple death threats after testifying in favor of traditional marriage before the Maryland state senate.

3 – A 14-year-old student at a public school in Texas was suspended from school for saying that he believes that homosexuality is wrong.

4 – A gay activist group that smashed up a church in Oregon says that it hopes that it will “strike fear into the hearts” of Christian leaders…

The group that allegedly smashed up a Portland church hopes its “small act of vengeance will strike fear into the hearts of” Christian leaders who teach traditional sexual morality, according to an e-mail message the group released to the public. A group calling itself “Angry Queers” has claimed responsibility for throwing baseball-sized rocks through nine church windows in Portland’s Mars Hill Church, including two 100-year-old stained glass panes.

5 – A high school teacher in Oregon was recently escorted from his school by police for objecting to the presence of Planned Parenthood in the school.

6 – Some gay activists up in Illinois actually threw concrete brick pavers through the glass doors of one Christian organization in an attempt to intimidate them…

Pro-homosexual activists attacked the Christian Liberty Academy early October 15th – throwing two large, concrete brick pavers through its glass doors with a hate-note attached– and then issued an online statement claiming responsibility for the crime. The attackers demanded that CLA “shut down” a banquet it was hosting later that evening for the “homophobic hate group,” Americans For Truth About Homosexuality (AFTAH).

7 – All over the country people are being fired from their jobs for expressing their belief in the Biblical view of sexual morality.

8 – Street preachers all over America are being threatened with arrest just for standing on street corners and preaching the gospel.  Here is one recent example from Illinois

“I did pretty much the same thing: I preached about twenty minutes, and I handed out a few tracts,” Johnson explained. “[W]hen I got in my car to leave, … and as I was getting ready to start the car, the police zoomed up and turned on their lights, and told me to get out of the car.”

“They pretty much said the same thing,” he continued. “They said, ‘You’re not supposed to raise your voice or scare anybody and tell people they’re going to die.’ I said, ‘Well, what if that building’s on fire and I raise my voice and tell people if they don’t leave, they’re going to die? Is that wrong?’”

And the Southern Poverty Law Center is very open about who they consider the enemy to be.  The following are just a few prominent evangelical Christian organizations that the SPLC identifies as hate groups

The American Family Association

Concerned Women for America

Coral Ridge Ministries

Family Research Council

Anyone that is familiar with any of those groups knows that they are absolutely not hate groups.  In fact, they are filled with tremendously loving people.  The people that make up organizations such as those are the backbone of America.

But these days there are many liberal organizations that will label anyone that does not agree with them as a “hate group” at the drop of a hat.

In another report entitled “The Year in Hate and Extremism“, the Southern Poverty Law Center mentions the following individuals and groups…

Rand Paul

Chuck Baldwin

Judicial Watch

The Oath Keepers

The truth, of course, is that all of those individuals and organizations are deeply patriotic and are trying to turn America around.  It is the SPLC that is the one that is filled with hate, and they clearly have a very deep hatred for anyone that does not agree with them.

Sadly, what is happening to evangelical Christians in America is just part of a larger trend that is happening all over the globe.  The following is from a recent Reuters article

About 100 million Christians are persecuted around the world, with conditions worsening for them most rapidly in Syria and Ethiopia, according to an annual report by a group supporting oppressed Christians worldwide.

Open Doors, a non-denominational Christian group, listed North Korea, Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan as the three toughest countries for Christians last year. They topped the 50-country ranking for 2011 as well.

Persecution of Christians is on the rise, and it is probably only going to get worse in the years ahead.

Remember what happened in Nazi Germany.  There was a long program of demonization against the groups that the Nazis hated before they ever started to round them up and take them off to camps.

In the end, those that are now demonizing evangelical Christians will not just be satisfied with calling them names.  They ultimately want much more, and what we are witnessing now is just the warm-up act.

  • seth datta

    Christians are fast becoming the Jews of modern times. In the UK, our dear leader has also been charged guilty in the media of seeking to destroy Christians.

    Can anyone say “the end times are nigh”?

  • Kukye

    Don’t you love it when the haters come out and start labeling the Christians as the haters???

    Like that number one hate group the SPLC? They hate anyone and anything that does not hate like them.

    Notice how the SPLC never hates the Muslims and their terrorist?

    As someone said liberals thrive on hypocrisy. They live by it.

    • Colin

      According to their website,

      “The Southern Poverty Law Center monitors hate groups and other
      extremists throughout the United States and exposes their activities to
      law enforcement agencies, the media and the public.” (Hate and Extremism)

      They don’t monitor such groups outside the US.

      • Veritae

        Great, a hate group monitoring other hate groups. Makes perfect sense. Oh, but they are not a hate group. Shhhhhh. Neither are we.

        • Philostratos

          Of course not. I expect the moral equivalents of the KKK and Al Qaeda to say that. But sensible people know better, and it won’t be long before you receive your well-deserved comeuppance.

    • THEanon

      Actually, both sides live on hypocrisy. Because EVERYONE, even god, is a hypocrite. He doesn’t even Listen to his own rules!

      • Dan

        shhh! Don’t be so angry; we’re co-creators with God. All iniquity will die when we realize God wants to fill the universe with beautiful replicas (us) of himself.

        • THEanon

          So technically that makes him egotistical and borderline narcissistic.

      • Chris Bryan

        lol what rules are you speaking of that you think God broke?

        • THEanon

          He doesn’t want humans to have jealousy right? Yet in the bible he said “for I am a jealous god”. That and they say “love thy neighbor” but if your a athiest you exclude them. Wouldn’t it make sence to tolerate their decisions, and respect that they don’t share their beleifes?

          Just sayin.

          • Cornelius

            He is what God means about being “jealous”. God is speaking of people making idols and bowing down and worshiping
            those idols instead of giving God the worship that belongs to Him alone.
            God is possessive of the worship and service that belong to Him. It is a
            sin (as God points out in this commandment) to worship or serve
            anything other than God. A little studying will go a long way to explaining things.

            Just saying.

          • THEanon

            So … That means I can’t worship Primus? Or Unicron?

          • thomas jefferson

            MY DEAR FRIEND,you need to study your bible more,it teaches you how to do things correctly,if you reject that, your life will really be a mess,as many americans have found out the hard way,and DON’T take the mark of the beast,its LUCIFERS wedding ring,and leads straight to hell…………………

          • Disapp

            You need prayer because Jesus died for your and my sins. We don’t exclude atheist, they exclude themselves. Why join a group that you do not share common interest? Christians don’t care about atheist sharing their beliefs with themselves and are invited to attend a fellowship. If they don’t want to hear preaching, then is not a Christian’s fault.

          • THEanon

            So … You’re saying that Christians can preach to atheists, but atheists can’t call Christians stupid? Okay, (sarcasm starts) that makes complete sense(end sarcasm).

            Also, what about Raptor Jesus? He went extinct for your sins!


          • Disapp

            Who is Raptor Jesus? Atheists are free to call Christians stupid and Christians are free to call atheists fools. According to Psalm 14:1, The fool has said in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, They have done abominable works, There is none who does good. You appear to hostile and I’m not hostile. I’m praying for you.

          • Philostratos

            Then throw away your computer, because that’s not the work of Bible-thumping scum, it’s the work of thinking people.

            Go pray for your non-existent friend to give you some wits, an education and a brain, Talibangelical.

          • THEanon

            But, what about the Internet? Couldn’t live without the Internet!


          • Disapp

            I didn’t call you a name; I quoted the Word of God. I feel sorry for you.

          • Philostratos

            You quoted from your Bronze Age rag that is in no way the “word” of your imaginary friend, delusional freak.

          • THEanon

            Google him you half wit, he’s way more interesting than Jesus.

            Okay, since you said I could:


            (V) ( 0,,,0 ) (V)

          • Disapp

            I feel sorry for you.

          • Philostratos

            I feel sorry for you that you don’t have a brain or an education, Taliban-like freak.

            Seriously, how stupid does one have to be to publicly expose that one has been brainwashed as a child?

    • Dan

      Don’t Republicans side with Saudi Arabia? Hypocrisy!

    • Nancy Shorts

      Maybe that is because both sides have haters.

  • Colin

    Michael, as an evangelical Christian, I don’t believe you are aware of how frightening your brothers and sisters are to other Christians and to other peoples. There was a recent poll, which was reported on, which revealed that a third of this nation believed that there should be one religion, Christianity, in this land.

    You say, Michael, that you believe that “…every religion has some followers that believe that their beliefs,
    customs and traditions are the only “right way” and that all others are
    practicing their faith the “wrong way,” seeing and believing that their
    faith/religion superior to all others.” This may be your belief; however, it doesn’t give you the right to impose your beliefs on others. And, this is where hate groups come in. They do believe that it is their mission to impose their beliefs on others, while protecting their members in a supportive community. They say calumniating comments about others.

    The place of judging and sentencing others for “false beliefs” Michael rests in the hands of Christ, on the day of the parousia. The power that you have as a disciple of Christ is, “If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.” (John 20:23) For evangelizing, “And whoever may not receive you or listen to your words, go out of that house or that city and shake the dust off your feet.” (Matthew 10:14)

    I am not going to comment on your assertion that these groups are patriotic. I don’t know them personally, and, even at a distance, I feel uncomfortable with their teachings.

  • Jason Whittington

    And just who, exactly, were you expecting to be persecuted during the Tribulation? Apart from being lied to about Christians not being here during the Tribulation, you should be excited! I am!

    • Jamie Ashley

      Exactly Jason! Christians WILL be here….we are to let the Holy Spirit speak through US during this time of Tribulation. We are living in exciting times! Christ IS returning….and he will be returning in an ANGRY way… but He is not angry with his followers, just those who chose to follow satan. Actually, life will probably be a LOT better for us after He comes to deal with them for us!

      • Tom Brown

        Very good Jamie. 2 Thess 2:1 speaks of our gathering to Jesus (rapture) and that it won’t happen until the apostasy and man of lawlessness is revealed. The church will go through the Tribulation and hopefully we will be a witness that will bring others to trust Jesus in those dreadful days.

        • Chris

          The tribulation isn’t for the salvation of christians. We already believe. The tribulation is for the salvation of Israel to bring them to belief in Jesus. The church is gone before the tribulation and raptures out. Snatched out if the way from sonething bad coming as the definition of rapture is. We’ll return in 7 years with Jesus at Armageddon to defeat evil. Who out there would beat up their bride before a marriage? Why would jesus want to beat up the church then and christians? Desiring to go through the tribulation is dumb to try and fulfill some kind of false humility or guilt. God saved us for a reason and not to go thru the tribulation with sinners. We who believe are sons of God. The antichrist can’t be revealed until the Holy Spirit stops restraining and holding him back. The Holy Spirit lives in all christians so we have to be gone before he’s revealed. 500 million to 1 billion believers would def resist the antichrist.

          • Chris Bryan

            i totally agree though i believe it will be much less amount that go up in the first rapture than forseen, for Christ only said 1 of the 7 churches would, i see that as 1/7 of those who say they are Christian

          • Chris Bryan

            trust me, i don’t want to go through the tribulation , but if I am left to go through it, I will have to try to be better according to what Jesus said for us to be like and when it comes to be my time to die, i shall not back down , i will not deny my Lord

        • Chris Bryan

          actually there is a pre-tribulational rapture, but it is not for everyone whom calls themselves Christian, when Jesus spoke to the 7 churches, only 1 church found favor in His eyes to be taken up and not have to go through the HOUR of TESTING = Tribulation, this is very clear that it means the tribulation and not the bowls of wrath for there will be no testing then but only destruction (Revelation 3:10) so keep in mind when this happens and if you are not one that goes up in this rapture that God expects more out of you

      • Chris Bryan

        not probably jamie, He has promised it will be!!!!

        • Philostratos

          Hahaha – you actually believe that.

  • Jason Whittington

    Dude, the end is here. If you bought the lie that the Church won’t be here for the Tribulation, well, surprise!

  • dC

    Freedom of who you love and freedom of spiritual beliefs or religion should go hand in hand in a free society. Stop the divide and conquer.

    • cherylmeril

      You’re free to go to hell if you want, people who love Jesus and care about people’s souls have a right to let you know how serious it is that you’ve rejected the Word of God as the only blueprint back to God.

  • Ed Lockwood

    You really think that 80% of the USA would be killed in a Christian Holocaust? Because of twitter and a few left-wing nuts, you really think that Christians are going to be rounded up, sent to concentration camps, and killed? So puerile.

    • RobsWalk

      Could happen, as a Christian im prepared to die for my beliefs, others arent

      • RobsWalk

        and you think 80% of the US is Christians? We as Christians and in Jesus’ would love that to be true

        • Hammerstrike

          I suspect 80% of christians (rough estimate) are politically correct first and christian second.

          • Jamie Ashley

            The majority of the ones I know certainly are. They only ‘claim’ to be Christians…and they feel that going to Church on Sunday and paying their tithes is sufficient…..but when it comes to standing up for Christian values that are spoke of in the Bible…that we are SUPPOSED to hold dear because Jesus taught them…they start backing up. Political Correctness has taken over the nation…. and most people, even the majority of Christians, are SO afraid of saying something that might ‘offend’ someone, they keep silent and let liberal immorality take over our nation. We wouldn’t want to be “unpopular” now, would we?

          • Todd Junker

            The only person’s opinion that I am concerned with is Christ our Lord and Savior. Let the truth be told though the heavens fall!!! Selah! Amen.

          • Gay Veteran

            poor Jamie, pining for the 50s when women knew their place (in the kitchen), Blacks knew their place (in the back of the bus), and Gays knew their place (in the closet), all supported by bible thumping “Christians”

        • Ed Lockwood

          According to an Aris

        • Ed Lockwood

          According to a report by the American Religious Identification Survey, 76% of Americans are Christians. It is a bit of a rough estimate, but yes. 76% of Americans are Christian.

    • Angel Peace

      Well, Jews stayed in Berlin thinking the same exact thing, Ed. That they were German, so they were safe and nothing would happen to them. Many served in WWI, they served honorably and were among those that were gassed.
      Cambodians under Pol Pot’s regime of “re-education” didn’t see their bloody, fate coming.
      Chairman Mao didn’t telegraph his sinister intentions to murder 50 million of his fellow countrymen and no one realized what he was up to until it was too late.
      Same for Stalin and Lenin…
      As a Christian, I can honestly say that the hostility I have met lately is overwhelming and frightening. There is nothing childish or immature in feeling nervous or scared when one is attacked for their faith in a higher power especially when it is happening all the time. If you don’t believe me, why don’t you go pose as a Christian in public and see how you are received in this country…

      • Gay Veteran

        and how do you “pose” as a Christian in public? go around knocking on doors? yeah, you’ll get some hostility

      • Ed Lockwood

        Pol-Pot, Mao, and Hitler were all government figureheads who were dictators that could do what ever they so please. Not a few liberal activists who have misused the right to peaceable assembly and use violent protests in some situations. Before I “pose as a christian” as you describe, I’d suggest you understand it’s a lot more difficult to pose as a Muslim or a Jew or an Atheist that receives death threats from fundies and real Christian extremists. As a Jew, I can honestly say that the attacks on the UPC for having Jewish services and graffiti on Jewish centers in my hometown are disturbing. Violent religious persecution is not government enforced, it is performed by psychopathic bigots.

  • Humbrage

    I have no problems with Christians, just as I don’t have problems with those of the Jewish or Muslim faiths. When I start having problems is when members of a religion start inflicting their religious beliefs on others. My belief is you choose to follow which ever religion or philosophy that best suits you. But don’t think that you have the right or power to tell others to believe as you do. I don’t expect people to follow my philosophies, so I expect not to be told how to live my life. Live and let live.

    • Gay Veteran

      Poor fundamentalists. Losing your political power to impose your religion on everyone else.
      Fired because of your religion? Illegal in 50 states.
      Fired because of your sexual orientation? Legal in most states.

      • Veritae

        What, as to impose your ‘religion’ on anyone else? Nice try but you’re guilty of the very thing you wish to accuse. Have some nice parting gifts…nice try though to introduce an ‘ought,’ into what, ‘is.’ A nice example of a circular argument. Please feel free to actually prove what you are trying to assert. It makes the dialogue so much more interesting.

        • Gay Veteran

          And what “religion” am I imposing on anyone??? Forcing you to marry someone of the same gender? Sorry, you want theocracy then move to Saudi Arabia

          • Veritae

            Straw man… Besides, we’re all here today because the Founders ensured no provision for a theocracy or an ecclesiacracy. And based upon what often happens to SS participants in some countries that do, I don’t think either one of us would care to see a Saudi Arabian type of political system based upon their source of law.

          • LDMack

            Hey Gay Veteran,

            Check out this new breaking story;


            What a surprise? Your thoughts?

          • Gay Veteran

            Why surprise? HUMANS do evil things.

            But I guess only us godless gays would rape an adopted child.

            Denver man charged with raping adopted daughter
            Posted on Mar 18 2013

          • Gay Veteran

            Surprised? No, some people are evil.

            But I guess only Gays rape their adopted children, right?

            Denver man charged with raping adopted daughter

          • Gay Veteran

            Typical troll. You FALSELY accused me of imposing a religion on others.

          • THEanon

            (Troll music)

            Trolls are funny people

          • LDMack
          • LDMack
          • THEanon

            Question, if you don’t agree with the people on this site, why do you even go here? I go here to troll and to piss them off. Also to get lols at their panic and doom.

            Arguing with them is a waste of time, it’s not like they’ll listen.

          • Gay Veteran

            I come to this site because the author is a good writer and the articles are very informative (unfortunately not this one).

          • Handog

            Your name is purposefully provoking. Why not simply veteran ? Seems you like to stir up debates in order to promote your agenda of homo normalcy. An argument you can’t win here. How about Beastyality? Is that “natural” to you or just the ones who are into it?

          • Dan

            Well, Jesus had to argue with a bunch of boneheads too…

          • Chris Bryan

            sad sad, cause you are not hurting us, you are only dooming yourself

        • Dan

          (Dan’s out having a smoke and I only have few minutes on the WP) Too heck with him and that other homo! Dan’s a decorated veteran who was on the front line in three wars. He still doesn’t appreciate what his country has done to him! After I tweak, I like to sleep for three days and he wakes me up with screams and nightmares. I smoke crystal meth and watch FOX News all day and I’m more of a patriot than he is! So screw Dan…well, not literally.

      • Dan

        I’m more concerned about spiritual salvation of the fundamentalists than I am over the likes of you and me. Btw, bro, I was in the Cold War! Where were you? European, Asian/Eastern theatre? Central America? Did you see the keg party and rock fest we had outside of Noriega’s mansion?

      • blight14

        What we like the MOST is the ~41 year life expectancy for you folks…..

        • Gay Veteran

          Thy shalt not LIE.
          I’m 54

      • Chris Bryan

        this is all predicted in the bible, everything you use to your defense, is what proves the bible to be true , we don’t need to argue, God already wins

        • Chris Bryan

          God even said we would be hated because He was hated and if we are like Him then so will we be hated

          • Philostratos

            I’m sure the Christian slaveholders said the same thing when they were hated. I’m sure the Christian KKK said the same thing.

        • Gay Veteran

          even the devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.

    • Veritae

      Post modernism at its best. Except, it leaves no criterion for distinguishing the truth. It’s a warm comfortable fuzzy ideology, but you cannot disguise relativism which is, itself, a self-defeating ideology. You, at some point, have to take a stand, even if you take this view which is itself, self-refuting. Either a belief is true, or it is not. You are going to have to, at some point, make a decision. Choosing not to decide, is still a decision.

      • Humbrage

        I choose not to believe in myths and fairytales. I choose to believe in facts and reality. I’ve made my choice. I don’t force that choice or belief on others; they’re welcome to believe anything they want.
        I don’t see your point, Veritae.

        • Angel Peace

          Humbrage – As a Christian, I do believe that you have the right to believe as you wish and no one should coerce you into thinking or believing anything you do not believe in. And that includes Christianity, we have no right to try and dissuade you from your Chosen Path.
          It’s a matter of basic respect and dignity for every person’s right to believe as they wish.

    • Jamie Ashley

      I believe the Christians in those Churches were practicing their beliefs and if you didn’t want to believe as they did, you did not have to enter their church. But to THROW rocks and bricks through windows shows HATE and INTOLERANCE on the part of the gays in this case. Gays, Lesbians, and Transgenders only represent a mere 3% of the population….don’t you agree it is a little arrogant and BULLYING of them to attempt to re-define the religious meaning of MARRIAGE for the other 97% of the population? I agree that everyone has the right to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness under the Constitution of this nation…..I’m a Christian and I don’t agree with the lifestyle of homosexuals, but I also don’t feel that there should be any LEGAL recourse that supports my belief. I feel they have the rights, under the Constitution, to file joint tax returns, carry one another on their insurance, and secure property rights and inheritance rights….they can achieve all these goals by calling what they do a Legal Civil Union. I’m ok with that….but I don’t feel ANY group has the right to re-define marriage….this is a religious ceremony and defined by our Bible as being between a man and a woman. The government has NO business deciding whether marriage should be re-defined as there is SEPARATION of Church and State. I suppose my view is looked upon by Liberals as HATE and INTOLERANCE, but I, at this point, would like to see a little tolerance of MY views for a change.

      • Gay Veteran

        “…But to THROW rocks and bricks through windows shows HATE and INTOLERANCE on the part of the gays in this case….”
        whoever did that should be prosecuted, along with those who Gay bash
        “…don’t you agree it is a little arrogant and BULLYING of them to attempt to re-define the religious meaning of MARRIAGE for the other 97% of the population?…”
        wow, did you say that about interracial couples?
        “…they can achieve all these goals by calling what they do a Legal Civil Union….”
        ROFLOL, like you fundamentalists would actually agree to that
        Btw, you don’t need a religious ceremony to get married, thus the rest of your argument is illogical.

        • Chris Bryan

          “wow, did you say that about interracial couples?”
          umm lolol, sorry it makes me laugh to hear someone speak about that as if it is wrong, yes some pastors have preached against this before but they were wrong , only thing the bible try to tell us is that if you are a Christian you should only marry a Christian, not to be made un-equally yoked

          • Gay Veteran

            don’t worry, 10 years from now people will laugh at you!
            Took the Southern Baptists over a 100 years to apologize for their role in slavery and racial discrimination. Guess it will take another 100 years for them to apologize for their persecution of Gays

      • Dan

        I agree, but there are more than 3% of us. I don’t dig our lifestyle either: when our brothers have a domestic quarrel, it often ends with one or both in the emergency room. But he who is without sin may throw the first stone–that too is punishable by death.

      • Philostratos

        Lives in Point Cedar, Arkansas
        Tell us how slavery is justified, hillbilly.

    • Chris Bryan

      i don’t force anyone to do or believe as i do, i only do what my Lord commands me to do and go out to every nation and preach the gospel, for one can not choose to believe unless they first hear it and that is my job to send the message

      • Philostratos

        So you don’t have a real job. What a surprise. Take it from the most despicable, immoral, uneducated and least intelligent people on the planet: Christian fundamentalism is correct.

  • Kim

    I used to be a Christian. Until I realized that the main problem with Christians was the people who professed this very faith. Interjecting their own interpretations into what the Bible actually says. For example: Tithing 10% to your local church is not a scriptural requirement nor should this even be something pastors say is required. Second: The concept that when people die that they will burn forever and be tortured in hell for all eternity this is unbiblical also. These are my two biggest complaints.

    • LDMack

      You make a very good point;

      You assumed that you realized that people were pulling a gnostic game with Bible interpretation. That should tell you something. You are assuming such is wrong and you are correct as well. Remember, if you are standing in the shadow of a hypocrite, they are closer to the light than you are. Forget what other people do. You are right about the tithing thing, Paul clearly wrote that we should tithe what we are able, and if we are able. So what is the problem?

      The concept of Hell is a common complaint. I’d like to address it if I may? First, Hell is not torture. The Book never uses the word. The word – torment, however, is used. There is a profound difference. Think about it: If God will not be present in Hell, then whom shall be doing the torturing?

      However, the absence of God in totality will serve as a basis of personal despair for many – torments. But you might think about what you mean by, “burn forever.” Jesus told a story of two men who died, one went to heaven and the other to “Hell.” The one in “Hell,” asked Abraham for a drink which could not be obtained. The man had a burning thirst of despair which could not be quenched. Not sure I agree with people running all over the place on fire.

      Oh, and a lot of people say a lot of things. So far, you’ve said some of the most right things I’ve yet to read here…

      Good evening.

  • cherylmeril

    It all fulfills scripture prophecy, it’s a time to be joyful to be a Christian shortly prior to Jesus’ return.

    • Bryan Neideffer

      Indeed! lawlessness would abound i’d say also read 2 timothy chapter 3 The world’s economy, everyone does what is right in their own eyes, no one cares for the Bible no more, it’s outdated it’s a lie, the N.W.O forming hardly any churches teaching Bible prophecy…..Israel in her land again….Earthquakes signs in the heavens and stars, i wish more saw this cause it does hurt my heart for those who are unaware of what’s coming!

      • Sunmee Woo

        Many will be blinded, because they refuse to see or accept the truth..For lot of them they won’t see, as you said, it is true..That will be too late..

      • Dan

        We still have a century or so left; we shouldn’t be ready to cash in yet. What scares me is Matthew 24:10 People will take offense easily (political correction?) and will betray each other and hate one another. False prophets (Ronald Reagan, Glenn Beck) will arise and decieve; iniquity will abound (Karl Rove) and love of many will grow cold. We’ll be in another civil war before end times.

        • Disapp

          Do you have proof for the remaining century?

    • Jesse Larsen

      I agree – we have clearly reached a time when love is considered to be hate, and hate is considered to be love, as I have pointed out in the following article on my site:

  • Tom Usher

    There are fascistic types who call themselves Christians, and there are homosexual violent extremists.

    Anyway, the military disavowed the presentation, not that it wasn’t extremely stupid that they let it get as far as it did.

    Peace of the Lord Jesus Christ to you.

    • Gay Veteran

      “There are fascistic types who call themselves Christians, and there are homosexual violent extremists.”
      A lot more of the former than the latter, a LOT more

  • cherylmeril

    What a cop out! You are a backslid Christian, repent and turn to God. Seriously you have rejected God and are rationalizing why blaming it on misguided Christians? You fool! Get back in the Word of God, save your soul. There are multitudes of tools to help you get back on track, misguided Christians will always be. You can listen to outstanding Christian radio programs on your iPhone app. There are some really talented Chrisitan pastors on the radio. If you don’t hunger for the Word of God something is seriously wrong.

    • The Communist Regime

      God isn’t real.

      • Vincent Ross

        Neither is your brain.

        • Brian Miller

          If you used yours, maybe you might see that he may not even be real.

      • Veritae

        Begs the question…

      • cherylmeril

        Your mind can’t comprehend God because you haven’t accepted Him into your heart.

        • Brian Miller

          Or just wishful thinking…

      • Todd Junker

        Neither is your political philosophy, comrade.

    • Kim

      Yes whenever a Christian questions things in the bible they are backslidden. What a crock. I am rejecting the concept of God based on what man believes not God himself. Funny how you did not remark about what I commented on.

      Christians love to smugly proclaim their salvation while in secret they do bad backslidden things. If you are supposed to be a new creature once saved why do so many use the excuse about still being sinful? Life is hard enough without Christians adding the mantra that you are going to burn in hell for not believing. That you are going to be eternally tortured for acting exactly as God made you – a sinful creature.

      • Liz

        Kim, I would love to encourage you to continue to seek for truth in God’s Word. I am impressed that you have chosen to not go “man’s way” in your faith. I too, believe, that the tithe as it is preached in churches today is not Biblical. I also believe that hell is a real place, but that many who don’t choose faith in Yeshua will not burn FOREVER… (Malachi 4) Scripture seems clear that eternal torture is reserved for Satan and his demons. While the judgment causes those who didn’t choose faith in Him to die and be done with it. It doesn’t match Yahweh’s character to need to torture his created beings for all eternity.

        Keep searching for truth. Please don’t forsake your Creator because of the lies and traditions of men. Your Father loves you for wanting to search out the secret things. Be still and know that He is God.

        Even Jesus (Yeshua) fought against the traditions of men in his time here in ministry. Knowing His ways, His worship, His days… these all bring peace and wisdom in a world going mad.

        Know the truth y’all. It’ll set you free. No matter what persecution or fear-mongering comes… you will step up in love and serve the hurting world around you and that is what it’s all about.
        Thanks again, Kim, for questioning the status quo. It’s what we’re told to do in Acts 17:11

  • The Communist Regime

    The only problem with your article is that the Cristians are the Nazis… Please just close down your site because everything you post is so beyond stupid and illogical that a baby could prove you wrong.

    • Vincent Ross

      Replacing God with worship of the State. Restricting “dangerous hate” speech. Racial classification and quotas. Elimination of gun ownership rights. Supporting the elimination of lives deemed inferior or unfit to live. Support of socialist economic policies. It would seem that you are a tad confused, if not outright mentally deficient, since those are all principles upheld by both the National Socialists German Workers party… and the Democrat Party of the U.S..

      • Philostratos

        But of course, Christians wouldn’t dream of “restricting speech”. Let’s forget the past 2000 years.

    • Veritae

      O the good ole days when people actually took communism seriously, until even the Russians got rid of it. The ideology was/is so deadly and scabrous that you could not even wipe a hog’s backside with it.

    • Van Grungy

      Nazis are the Gays of the Pink Swastika

      • Gay Veteran

        Jonathan Zimmerman, an historian at New York University, wrote the claim that gay people helped bring Nazism to Germany “is a flat-out lie.”[9] Zimmerman, points out that “Between 1933 and 1945, the Nazis arrested roughly 100,000 men as homosexuals. Most convicted gays were sent to prison; between 5,000 and 15,000 were interned in concentration camps, where they wore pink triangles to signify their supposed crime.”[9] He further notes, “To win their release from the camps, some gays were forced to undergo castration. Others were mutilated or murdered in so-called medical experiments by Nazi doctors, who insisted that homosexuality was a disease that could be ‘cured’.”[9] In addition, “Hitler authorized an edict in 1941 prescribing the death penalty—yes, the death penalty—for SS and police members found guilty of gay activity.”[

    • THEanon

      Called ‘murica, we can post anything we want, and so long as it doesn’t steal crap or say terroristic things, it can stay!

  • raptor45

    Mark reports the Lord speaking in regard to persecution:

    But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them. And the gospel must first be published among all nations.

    But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.

    Now the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the father the son; and children shall rise up against their parents, and shall cause them to be put to death. And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

    So, by the Lord’s testimony on the matter we can see it coming and we should prepare accordingly. The only thing about this that bothers me is that I don’t think He would want me to take out my pistol and send a few of them ahead of me….and that is vexing. Drats!!

    • Chris Bryan

      very true and keep in mind that these persecutions are happening even right now before the tribulation has started and has happened alot in the past as well

    • THEanon

      Robert Muldoon:
      “Clever girl”

      (Sorry, your name made me have to do that!)

  • Sojourner

    Most of organized Christianity has already fallen pray to governmental control via their tax exempt status. Follow Jesus, the Anointed Son of God and his Holy Spirit to lead, not a pastor or minister and their religious organization.

    • Sunmee Woo

      So true indeed…Amen!

    • Philostratos

      But fundies don’t. Being poor, uneducated and easy to command, they follow their pastor like the sheep that they are. In fact, you’re ignorant and foolish enough to believe anything. When your preachers told you that burning people at the stake was “moral”, that’s what you believed. When your preachers told you that slavery was moral, that’s what you believed. If your preachers told you that child molestation is right, you’d believe that, too.

      It won’t be long before you receive your just rewards…

      • Adam Steiger

        Your statement here contained (at least) nine ad hominem attacks in response to Sojourner’s pleading for those to follow Jesus Christ.

        You have no credibility.

    • ThinkAboutIt

      The organized churches must part ways with the exempt status so they can speak openly. Until that occurs, the government will have full control of what churches, preachers, pastors say to their people. That is already unconstitutional – government making, enforcing laws and rules to silence or shape church concepts.

  • David Webb

    I personally believe in Jesus Christ as my Master and as my savior. When I truly want something, I ask in prayer with other Christians for what I want. If it is in accordance with Christian law as stated in the Bible, it normally happens for me. That makes me a slave to Jesus Christ when and if he comes back in my lifetime.
    Am I perfect? Not in this lifetime! I put my clothes on exactly the same way as everyone else. I am flawed like everyone else on this planet. I ask forgiveness when I screw up and try to make it right whenever I do.

    That being said, I believe you have the right to believe whatever you want to believe in this country. That is the way the Constitution was set up originally. It is being distorted by various groups.
    I also believe that those that lose their life to Christ gain their life and those that save their life will lose their lives. I believe that is in the Bible too.

    We, as a nation, try to make all religious beliefs neutral in our governing. The problem occurs when any one group attempts to make everyone forced to believe as they do.
    If you want to believe in a physical universe in which the Earth is the center of the Universe and is FLAT then by all means do so.

    If you want to believe that the Universe is 6,000 years old, please do so. No one has a right to stop you from believing whatever you want.
    I would go even further. I say if you want to pray where ever you are, you should have the right to do so.
    If you wish to express your beliefs, as long as it is not in a government building, then do so.
    A lot of people disagree. I personally find the stand in the schools to be ridiculous. You can take neutrality to extremes.
    I do not like lies. Whether it is a scientist lying or a so called Christian lying it is wrong.
    I do not like legislation telling a teacher that they must teach certain things, even if those things have since been proven to be not true.
    Evolution as taught by Darwin is one example. Our study of genetics proves somethings true and others false. It is complicated.
    The one thing about science is that what is thought true today will likely be proven false tomorrow. It is changing rapidly as we speak.
    Do gays have rights? I think they have the same rights as me. Nothing more, nothing less.
    Should they be allowed to marry? I think that is a matter of legal issues as much as religious issues. I am against being Gay. But that is my personal decision. Not a legal stand for the government to take one way or the other.
    I would be more concerned with diseases of any group that has multiple partners. That has consequences for all of us.
    Are their religious concerns? Yes. It quite clearly states in the Bible that there are concerns and our God considers it bad.
    What happens when Gays marry and then divorce? That is an entire legal field yet to be explored.
    Why are they gay? Is it a personal choice or is it biological?

    Should churches ber forced to marry gays? Not if it is against their religious beliefs. That is the whole idea of neutrality. Your right to practice your religion as you see fit as a religious leader should not be legislated away.

  • Someone

    The satanists that run humanity are trying to destroy christiananty to corrupt humanity so they can control them easier. They are doing this by making it look “cool” and “trendy” to bash christans, by making fun of them in the media (aka the thing they use to brainwash people) and by making christianity look as insane as bogus religions such as islasm.

    If humanity turns away from christiananity then the elite will be able to destroy morals, and family life much quicker than normal.

    • ProudInfidel

      What do you mean “If”? That’s exactly what has happened and is continuing to happen.

    • Philostratos

      Christianity (which you can’t even spell, because you’re not very intelligent or educated) has done a pretty good job of destroying morals over the past 2000 years.

  • JOSHUA landberg


    • Sunmee Woo

      Remember, it is not Obama, see what is controlling his thought & heart, what spirit is controlling him..We are not waging war on flesh & blood, we are waging war at something we can not see…Spiritual battle indeed..Put on the whole Armor of God..

    • Philostratos

      Lo and behold, the educational level of the Christo-fascist Talibangelical: Christian are not.

      You are evil, ignorant and uneducated – no wonder you’re a Talibangelical.

  • ErnieDavidson

    Matthew 10:22 – New International Version (NIV)

    22 You will be hated by everyone because of me, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved.

    • Kim

      No, they are hated because of the damage they’ve perpetrated on children. These are the criminal class of false religion.

      • Todd Junker

        Or what, you’ll not chop off some Christian heads then, eh?

        • Philostratos

          You’re not a Christian, you’re a Talibangelical – and you’re a laughingstock, not worthy of having its head chopped off.

      • Ophelia Ort

        You are a hate-filled and deluded idiot.

      • Ran Kelvin

        It appears that someone needs to be clearer with their comment. If it was intentionally obscure in order to bait folks, shame on you. If you meant that Christians should be the target of hate then you are executing satan’s directives. If you are with God, then say so, with my apologies.

      • Handog

        Go away heathen troll !

      • Chris Bryan

        no, we are hated because we live by God’s laws not mans laws, we followed mans laws until they became contrary to Gods laws, people don’t want to believe in the bible because it tells them things are wrong when they want them to be right, that’s why God calls you a LOVER of iniquity

        • pandeter

          You aren’t hated because you live by God’s laws, you are hated because you try to use the government to force others to live that way.. Go live your life, and leave others to take care of their own.

          • Disapp

            Have you studied the founding of this country? The majority of the world is governed by totalitarians or corruption, but you don’t appreciate the freedom of this country.

          • pandeter

            Could you please define “country” for me? Then we can debate the “founding” of the USA.

            Also, I support total freedom (complete liberty) and I don’t oppose anyone doing what they please with their life and property so long as they don’t hinder me from doing the same.

          • Disapp

            How can you have total freedom without impacting others? Isn’t total freedom hedonism?

          • Philostratos

            Good, I’m glad you realize that you and your fellow Talibangelicals can’t demand “total freedom”.

            Don’t worry, your comeuppance is coming soon.

          • dylan

            I believe many christians walk into battles without there armour and when confronted with something they cant handle they use what is of man not God. Basically puttting god into a jar and pulling him out at there benefit. I expose the works of the devil and constantly change jobs and where i live and this hate confirms everything. One day God will show me what ive sown but i want nothing down here for it will be taken or it will corrupt me but Ill wait and fight with patience.

          • Philostratos

            Among those totalitarians are Iran, Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan – states that mirror what you want to impose on America.

        • Philostratos

          Apparently, you’re not following man’s grammar either – you’re as uneducated as a person can humanly be.

      • Disapp

        Please list the damages they’ve perpetrated on children.

        • Philostratos

          The suicide bomber community – all religious. The genital mutilation community – all religious. You really have a lot to be proud of, Talibangelcal.

  • Tina Issavedbygrace

    What great research and links Michael! I just did some on my own and was praying someone would pick this up! I pray it gets out to lame stream media. It really upsets me that you don’t hear a peep about any of this from Fox News on TV. If your on Facebook I’d love to friend you.

  • Bryan Neideffer

    God loves everyone…it pains his heart when the wicked perish….He died on calvary’s cross for EVERYONE!!! so he says if you hear my voice do not harden you heart, but come to me all you who are heavy laden and burden and i will give you rest For all have fallen sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, that’s why Jesus who knew no sin became sin for us that through him we may become the righteousness of God…God does not want religion he wants relationship with you! That if you confess with your mouth Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart God raised him from the dead YOU WILL BE SAVED!!! for it is with your mouth you confess and are saved, and with your heart you believe and are justified! what on this earth is so important that you would not choose Christ for?

    • Philostratos

      Oh look, the mere high school graduate is lecturing people on what is the truth.

      Where are your ‘pestilences’, fool?

  • Frank Romanyshyn Valente

    the Evangelicals are responsible for this attitude , they brought it on themselves and now run around crying like babies that everyone is abusing them because they are so good and “proper” and “nice”. The truth is they as a group
    are not so wonderful, most of them just want power over other people, they want to force their beliefs on everyone else by using political power. Also they wish to make America a third world country by denying scientific truths which stand all the tests of veracity.

    Most “born agains” are Republicans simply because they are greedy, stingy and have no concern or compassion for the poor.

    Christ would be horrified at what these bigoted, racist rodents do in his name. They actually believe that all they have to do is bleat out that they accept Jesus as their Savior and they get God waiting on them hand and foot for trillions of years. Anyone with a brain could never believe such nonsense,

    all religions of every stripe along with their man-written scriptures haven’t got a clue as to what God really is and God’s not in the business of making personal appearances. Of course Evangelicals feel God’s presence, talk to him, get instructions from him and it is all just real in their imaginations….and that’s ALL it is …Hallucinating.
    God or Jesus, despite being the “star of the show” has never appeared to a congregation no matter how much noise & hoopala they make.
    And he’s not going to appear, no Armageddon, no rapture…..not going to happen , not soon….not ever. So why don’t this bunch of disillusioned Hippocrates just try to really thank God for the one life they are going to get on this garden of Eden called Earth and learn to love and cherish one another? No, this smug bunch of starry eyed selfish self centered mean spirited narcissists are going to heaven but first they are going to rack up brownie points with God by sticking their nose in everyone else’s business supposedly on his behalf. Yes, we don’t like Evangelicals or Jehovah’s Witnesses or Mormons or Muslims or Scientologists or any other cult that wants to control our lives or our politics. You have brought on your unpopularity and our numbers are growing and we are fed up with you and your kind so get
    used to it. We don’t like you and niether does Christ.

    • RobsWalk

      When that day comes when Jesus comes in the clouds, it will be too late. And im sure you will say just like my athesit friend “dont care and i guess he was right, oh well” breaks my heart that satan has so many fooled!

      • Philostratos

        I’m sure you’ll be able to scare a few kids around a campfire with that story. Heck, how were you indoctrinated in the first place? When you were a kid.

    • Hammerstrike

      The truth is they as a group
      are not so wonderful, most of them just want power over other people, they want to force their beliefs on everyone else by using political power. Also they wish to make America a third world country by denying scientific truths which stand all the tests of veracity

      That´s liberalism in a nutshell.

      • Jamie Ashley

        You just summed it up perfectly….this is the proverbial “pot calling the kettle black”. Everything they are accusing Christians of….the liberals ARE doing.

        • Todd Junker

          Typical leftist ploy – accuse others of what you are guilty of doing. Right out of Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals book.

      • Gay Veteran

        nope, that fundamentalism

        • Hammerstrike

          Exactly, liberalism is politically correct fundamentalism.

          • Gay Veteran

            of course you think civil rights are “politically correct”

      • Philostratos

        Truth hurts, doesn’t it?

    • Jamie Ashley

      Yes. Jesus DID suffer and die on the cross as payment for ALL our sins…even yours. We all sin…and God, knowing that we could not be perfect enough, loved us SO much that he sent his only son to suffer and die FOR us. It really IS that simple….once you are saved and belong to Jesus Christ you will WANT to live better, and DO better, and be more CHRISTLIKE…..but you cannot get to heaven by your good works, and you will NEVER be without any sin and therefor perfect enough to deserve heaven on your own merits. Thank God that we are forgiven in his name, and saved through his blood. No one wants to control you….God gives everyone free will and we all have a choice. Our job as Christians is not to judge….that is the job of God. Our job is to tell his amazing story and give as many as possible the chance to accept Him and His gift of eternal life. There IS an eternity….where you spend it is your choice…and God believes in YOU, even if YOU don’t believe in Him.

      • Philostratos

        Actually, all you Talibangelicals have done is trying to get political power. What you want is a theocracy like Iran or Saudi Arabia, and you’re not going to get it, immoral fools.

    • Gay Veteran

      “…You have brought on your unpopularity and our numbers are growing and we are fed up with you and your kind so get used to it. We don’t like you and niether does Christ.”
      OH MY, that is going to leave a mark

  • Piglet

    Don’t get too excited over a briefing in an Army Reserve unit. As someone who spent many years in the Reserve, I can tell you that most Reserve training is ill-prepared and worthless, something that was seconded by the general in command of the Army Reserve a decade ago. I suspect this briefing was locally generated and is not a standard for presentation Army-wide; otherwise it would have turned up elsewhere as well.

  • jaxon

    Michael, I usually enjoy the comments but I am not even going to read a few of them. I know fully what it will be filled with–the very evidence supporting your assertion. I bet there will be dozens of people hating, blaspheming and ridiculing Christians for their beliefs.
    Ultimately this has been in motion for quite a while. We have joked and kidded about “PC” ( political correctness) but the ned result is not funny.
    It is extremely “politically incorrect” to have any differing opinion or any semblence of morals or faith in our present time. I foresee a time approaching where we will see imprisonment or even persecution of those who do not espouse the trending lifestyles of homosexuality, beastiality etc…
    Even TLC channel and History channel runs shows about strange perversions and attempts to normalize them ( adults wearing diapers, people who are aroused by cars or machines, naked mannequin collections etc etc..just to name a few tame ones– shows which get graphic commercial time during normal history programs. Heck, even the ID channel has been getting really bad with all of the soft lesbo porn ( there were 2 straight days where I was flipping channels and saw scenes of naked ladies french kissing in bed while the narrator explained the eventual affairwhich led to a murdered husband.)
    Since I am rambling I will make a bold prediction. Thirty years ago homosexuality was considered a perversion and crime..simple fact, don’t shoot the messenger. Then the psychiatric institutes ( a godless liberal bastion of humanism if there ever was one) began to transform the view of homosexuality to ” a mental disease or disorder” later that disorder made its natural transition to ” born that way”- after all, these people are programmed that way in their very genes right? We must accept them and show compassion for them. Then it has become what it is now- a protected and powerful minority group that bullies the 98% of hetero’s.
    The prediction?……………We are already seeing the beginnings within the psychiatric, sociologists and psychologists worlds that pedophilia is a mental disorder or disease. It may seem far fetched at this time, however in 20 years we may see groups like NAMBLA with a powerful lobby and activists. We may not last that long as a society the way we are headed right now but the course is all too familiar. Who would have thought 30 years ago that we would allow a tiny % of people to completely bully the masses and even re-define marriage?–

  • Leigha

    I am very sympathetic to Warren’s loss, but to use him as an example here, I disagree. Warren is a false teacher, preaches a watered down gospel and has had very notable pastors speak out against because of his false teachigs. Before you bash me, look into it yourselves, and you will see. There is even an excellent documentary made about his erroneous teachings called “Church of Tares” on YouTube. As I said, I AM symphatgetic to his loss and I pray this loss may cause him to come back to the Truth of God’s Word, but to use him as an example here when the man clearly preaches another gospel is too far fetched. I digress.

    • Tim

      I agree with you, Leigha.

  • Andrew Kind

    “In the end, those that are now demonizing evangelical Christians will not just be satisfied with calling them names. They ultimately want much more, and what we are witnessing now is just the warm-up act” I can’t wait for the main attraction, it’s gonna be awesome

  • Matt

    The Bible did tell us that this was coming. It suggests that things are going to get a lot worse before they get better.

    Why is this happening?

    Modern liberalism basically says that we’re all equal – no better or worse. If you are better off – like the West or Israel – then you cheated. If you are worse off then you are a victim. Only evil can drive a society above the rest, since we’re all equal – by definition. And Christianity is the driving force behind the rise of the West. That means conservative Christianity is evil and must be transformed or enlightened.

    • Hammerstrike

      “And Christianity is the driving force behind the rise of the West.”

      Nope, it isn´t but it did not end the rise of the west either, unlike liberalism.

    • Philostratos

      I’m sorry, you’re not equal to anyone else, except maybe Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

  • Kim

    I don’t fel a bit sorry for the Christian evangelical movement in American, the Catholic Church or any other of these fraud religionists and claim they follow Jesus. Theyve earned all the animosity being hurled at them now. They’ve deviated from the true teachings of the bible long ago in exchange for God-dishonoring doctrines of the trinity, prosperity gospel, hell-fire and immortality of the soul. The scandals, child abuse prostitution scandals, money scandals — all sickening. These people are money grubbing shiesters and those who follow them are blind. It’s sad really.

    • Veritae

      I tried to reply to your two complaints last night, but for some reason got the moderator axe?? But tonight, you’ve got far more than two issues. I think however, you are a bit confused?

      In my opinion, the animosity stems largely from the fact the Christianity by and large has simply become a label for yet another moral system of ethics (and not a particularly desirable one by itself). C. S. Lewis warned that if this happened, there was going to be trouble. He was right.

      Your docket of complaints is legitimate, but Is it fair to judge the actions of everyone by the actions of a few? Perhaps returning to the founder and examining his life might reveal that you cannot necessarily judge by the actions of the followers if you’ve selectively chosen to only focus on the bad. It represents a formal logic fallacy, but it is, however, rather popular to do so.


      • Philostratos

        “Evangelical Christianity” has become a label for the ethics of Iran, Saudi Arabia and other places Talibangelicals would like to turn America into.

    • LibertyDwells

      So you don’t believe in the Trinity, hell, the immortal soul or, obviously by extension, Salvation. But you seem to think there are true teachings of the Bible. It seems you may have a bit of conflict going on…

  • CorruptionInColumbia

    Perhaps this wouldn’t be an issue, if the Evangelical Christians were not and did not have a long history of acting like Muslims, and trying to crush any and every group who does not believe as they do. There is nothing wrong with Christians practicing their “faith” and beliefs, but it would do them wonders to understand that not everyone shares their faith and beliefs and to accept that.

    Going back to the days when they burned Witches or maybe longer, they have a pattern of trying to quash every group which did not think as they do, act as they do, say as they do. They try constantly to legislate their morality into law, regarding birth control, abortion, sexual activity and/or orientation.

    If they would learn to live and let live as Jesus seemed to have been trying to tell them to do, they might have greater acceptance.

    • Philostratos

      I disagree, they’re not trying to legislate their morality. They’re trying to legislate their immorality.

  • martae

    Yes, SPLC is demonizing Christians, and patriots, but the ACLU? The author gives no examples. The ACLU is not a civil rights group, it is a constitutional rights group. It’s just a shame they have forgotten the second amendment.

  • Mickey Smith

    A lot of christians are just annoying people.

  • Ted R. Weiland

    It was inevitable that the First Amendment’s provision for the freedom of religion (which enabled polytheism to thrive in America) would eventually take aim at monotheistic Christianity. This explains, in part, the Constitutional Republic’s selective persecution against Christianity.

    For more, see free online Chapter 11 “Amendment 1: Government-Sanctioned Polytheism” of “Bible Law vs. the United States Constitution: The Christian Perspective.” Click on my name, then our website. Go to our Online Books page, click on the top entry, and scroll down to Chapter 11.

    • Philostratos

      Christo-fascist Talibangelicals hate the Constitution. I already knew that, but thank you for making it explicit.

  • RattlerRider

    I see that the Babylonian Mystery religions priests have done their jobs well.

  • Angel Peace

    If I leave a comment with the simple words, “God Bless” on most comment boards, I am verbally attacked and bullied. And it seems that the attacks are becoming more brazen, rude, cruel and just downright vile. I’ve had people try and kick me off the boards, I’ve had people try and get me to leave my faith, I’ve had people scream at me to prove God exists, I’ve been called so many vile names because I’ve written two simple words. The reactions are so bombastic that you would think that I had written something so horribly heinous that I should be jailed for it. In the past year, I’ve noticed this type of cyber bullying moreso than at any other time. I get the feeling that there is a group that absolutely has made it the goal to rid this country of anyone who believes in a higher power whether it be Christian, Muslim, Jew, Hindu, Buddhist or anyone else worshipping a God. They are actively going after Christians, but they will not stop with us just as Hitler did with Jews, Gypsies, Homosexuals, Mentally Incompetent, the weak and feeble, the politically undesirable.
    Thank you for writing this article, I honestly thought I was being too sensitive when I kept getting bombarded with vile comments for simply writing God Bless. Whenever I say I am a Christian the insults materialize and the badgering and bullying commences. And most of the time, it doesn’t stop.
    In the end, it won’t matter and people will never be able to change my faith in God. Although, I never thought I would be persecuted for believing in my faith, at least, not in the US. I was very wrong on that account. Martin Niemoller’s poem was spot on and people should take heed, because once they come after everyone else, the only one standing is You. No one is truly safe in this type of atmosphere.
    God Bless…

    • Gay Veteran

      you people have utterly NO idea of what discrimination is like

      • LibertyDwells

        Of course not. But hey, you do, right? Because someone told you all about it…

        • Gay Veteran

          You do not have a clue. Oh, I guess Gays on your planet don’t get fired because of their status, don’t get assaulted, don’t get murdered

          • Handog

            Heterosexuals never get fired from their jobs, they have never been assaulted or murdered.
            Ya right.

            Get over your self.

          • Gay Veteran

            hey HanDOG, helps to actually READ: “get fired because of their status”

          • Philostratos

            Interesting that Handog has advocated murdering gay people, and now is trying to downplay it…

            Murderous scum, like every other Talibangelical.

          • Handog

            No one is advocating murder. Drama queen. I don’t care what you do in your bedroom. Besides, your killing yourselves with STDs.

          • Philostratos

            Looks like even the Talibangelical realized that he can’t be seen as supporting murder. Of course, wherever Talibangelicals can get away with murder, they advocate it – like in Uganda. Not allowing Talibangelicals to murder anyone they don’t like is ‘persecution’, dontchaknow.

            “Your killing yourselves”? And your [sic] killing the English language. I don’t think it’s humanly possible to be even more immoral, uneducated and ignorant than a Talibangelical.

            As the Washington Post put it, poor, uneducated and easy to command.

    • Philostratos

      Then get out! Go to Iran, where your “values” are put into action.

  • DavyCrockettIsDead

    “Remember what happened in Nazi Germany”

    No, sir, no. The Nazis did not persecute Christians, but the Marxists of any country including yours did/do/will.

  • Robert (qslv)

    Ironic…….The very people who are attacking the God fearing and those who love liberty will be the next to go into the ovens after we are all gone; homosexuals, educators, intellectuals, artists, writers, entertainers, journalists, the mentally ill…..

    • Gay Veteran

      “…The very people who are attacking the God fearing and those who love liberty….”
      not always the same thing

    • Philostratos

      I think the mentally ill are comfortable in your churches.

  • The rules of discussion

    GODWINS LAW!!! Your argument is void.

    • LibertyDwells

      You should learn how Godwin’s Law is to be applied before you attempt to throw it around.

    • THEanon

      Lol, this made me laugh, good post my fine sir!

  • Nate Southworth

    Should we be surprised by this? Not!!! Stay strong!

    • Philostratos

      We will, Justin Bieber.

  • A.S.

    Very interesting how the ones that claim to be the most tolerant and accepting are the same ones using the most vulgar, obscene and filthy language! Shows you how their beliefs have enlightened them!

    • Philostratos

      Khalid Sheikh Muhammad, is that you?

  • Gregory Gill

    The more society turns away from the truth of the bible, it is the more they will hate those who speak it.

    • Philostratos

      Did you copy that phrase from the Muslim Brotherhood, Talibangelical?

  • Gay Veteran

    “Then it has become what it is now- a protected and powerful minority group that bullies the 98% of hetero’s.”
    HOW are you being bullied? By watching Gays get marriage equality? POOR THING, for decades you people had a monopoly on political power, now you don’t.

    • Handog

      Lev. 18:22, “You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.”1
      Lev. 20:13, “If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death.

      • Gay Veteran

        you eat pork? thy hypocrite

        • Handog

          First of all I’m not Jewish. I had a ham & cheese sandwich for lunch. So what? You are taking the verse out of context in order to justify behavior that is condemned in more than one book. Yes, We all fall short but the pork argument is weak.

          • Gay Veteran

            hey HanDOG, I’m not the one who started quoting Leviticus. And there are many interpretations of Leviticus, but I guess only you know which is ture

          • Philostratos

            But of course, you’ll cite the “Jewish” book to advocate murder.

            Prohibition on pork: bad
            Commandment to murder: good


          • Handog

            I’ll stop eating ham if you stop having sausage. Do we have a deal?

          • Philostratos

            Given your obsession with the matter, I think you’re a Larry Craig in the making.

            What will it take for you to stop advocating murder, Talibangelical?

      • THEanon

        So, based on this, woman can sleep with woman … Cool.

      • Philostratos

        I’m glad that you’re coming out in favor of murdering people. So don’t complain when you’re compared to the Taliban, because you’re not a hair better.

        • Handog

          Don’t shoot the messenger.

          • Philostratos

            OK, Mr. Eichmann, you’re just transmitting what your Fuehrer had to say.

    • blight14

      The future may not be as ‘rosy’ as you think…..

      • Philostratos

        Take it from the anti-Semite who is still angry about his beloved KKK being put out of business.

  • Fish deep

    “Remember what happened in Nasi Germany ?” Separating fact from fairy tale, the people they “demonized” were exactly that. “Ye are of your father the devil.” Throughout the Weimar years they took over and corrupted German culture. The same “people” have been doing it here for a long time, thus this article describes the fruits of their relentless labor. Don’t be fooled by this list from the Hexagrammic ADL. Only the top of the list matters to them. The rest are only camouflage to short out the scrambled wiring of your cerebral circuitry.

    • Philostratos

      Thank you, Talibangelical, for your anti-Semitism.

  • luisa48

    The world hates Christians and that makes them “Christian haters”. The word says that in the end times people will call good things bad and bad things good. Well, every prophecy up until now has been fulfilled. How many more to be fulfilled? Jesus told us that if people hated Him then people will hate us who believe in Him. That makes sense. It is all clear. Jesus is coming soon. Get ready, get ready folks.

    • Philostratos

      But of course! Santa is coming too, next year.

  • mleblanc138

    My main worry is what’s going to happen to the State of Utah? I saw the Fundamentalist Mormons on that list and I’m hoping it doesn’t include the mainstream Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints based in Salt Lake City that forbids the polygamy practiced by the Fundamentalist group. In Utah, something like 60% of the population including myself are LDS, so if the government suddenly decides Mormons are a “hate group” or some other nonsense, they would have an absolute field day in Utah.

  • BG

    It didnt take long enough for this type of thing to happen. In what way are evangelical christians not extremists? They blow up churches, picket/harass funerals, say that being gay is a disease, say that women should keep a baby after they’ve been raped, etc.

    However, I dont believe that ALL evangelical christians believe these things. In the same vein that all Muslims are not terrorists.

    I am a Jew, and I am very happy that the Jewish Defense League is on this list. Why? Because they are not representative of what being Jewish is, they are bad for Jews and the world at large. It is time for christianity to live up to its true potential, and figure out what practical good it can do for the world, practical good being something that directly helps EVERYONE, not just evangelical christians and their constituents. Is that not what religion is for?

    Its time to wake up, stop complaining, and figure out how to adapt to modern times. You’re not the only people struggling to do this. I see many religions struggling. You’re just moving the slowest.

    • LibertyDwells

      So do they pay people to trot out this rubbish or do you do it for free while waiting for your welfare check to arrive? Oh, wait, that is pymt of a sort…never mind.

      • Philostratos

        I wonder who is more dependent on government, Jews or Christian fundamentalists. Stupid question.

  • kristine holland

    It seems to me the ‘bullies’ of the world enjoy their power and cannot satiate their desire…do you know bullies back down if you challenge them! They are actually bluffing and lack courage. Wisdom is called for Christians, stay true, support each other and rise above the slander with integrity.

  • benth163

    Evangelicals ARE radicals as they whip up their ignorant congregations into a froth about something they know nothing about. It is time for humans with a brain to realize that if you subscribe to modern day religions you are no more than a cult member. The extent of which I don’t have the space to go into here in this forum.

    If you people out there in La La Land actually believe there is going to be a God that will come down and save your royal rear ends, you really do need to get your collective heads out.
    Stop being so stupid…… GOD INDEED?

    If you bother to educate yourselves, you will find out that YOUR GODS are no more than other worldly visitors who manipulated our DNA. They are not gods, but at the time were thought to be. Read some books on what is being discovered in the middle east about our ancient history. The more you begin to understand about who and what we are, the larger the picture of our genetic heritage comes into view.

    So folks instead of mocking me, take a step outside your mental box and explore our heritage

    • LibertyDwells

      Ah yes, the aliens abducted you and let you know all this. So, BTW, how does your modified genome theory fit in with your subscription to Evolution Daily?

      • benth163

        Oh, I’m sorry, you haven’t got your head out yet.. Here, let me yell it at you, so it can get it through your thick skull.

        • Philostratos

          Yet? You mean won’t do so ever.

  • arahn

    I have lived all of my life in the Midwest and have seen first hand how
    most people who identify themselves as Christian LOVE fascism (as long
    as it is someone they disagree with who is being crushed by that
    fascism) and feel not even a touch of compassion for anyone they see as
    ‘beneath them’ — a respecter of persons has broken the whole law.

    crying about the boot of fascism hovering over your own neck is very
    ironic (and shows the self-obsessed state of the modern form of
    Christianity) since you cheered when it was the other way around.

    • LibertyDwells

      When you lie it helps to not lay it on quite so thick. Subtlety is useful when you want to convince people to believe your BS.

      • Gay Veteran

        Not very Christian of you. Before condemning someone as a liar you need to PROVE they actually lied.

  • THEanon

    Dude, stop spamming. Wait until he replies you impatient snob

    • Veritae

      Sorry, something odd (technically) happened during the posting process, not sure what exactly.

  • Gay Veteran

    exaggerate much? or do you honestly think you’re going to a concentration camp (like German Gays)

    • Handog

      Homosexuals have a camp fire waiting.

      Lev. 18:22, “You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.”1
      Lev. 20:13, “If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them”

      • Dan

        The veteran and I don’t want this! Maybe we are born with it; and that’s why I go to church. I know I’m a sinner! And that’s why the price of redemption was so high–it was for people like the veteran and myself. All y’all righteous folks don’t need Jesus, just remember to use extra long twigs for your marshmallows.

        • Chris Bryan

          we all need Jesus, and just because you are a homosexual don’t condemn you , you can turn from the wickedness and repent, and that’s bologna that you were born like that, no one is born like that, that’s a huge lie

          • Dan

            Hey, Bro I ask forgiveness.  I’ve never “done it” and I don’t like it!  If not born with it, I have had to fight this demon since the earliest of childhood.  I’m open  to any tips to turn me to girls.  How do you deal with your sins/demons?  I know you have them; all are born short of the mark.

          • Gay Veteran

            sad, very sad. you need to understand that not all Christians believe the same way

          • Chris Bryan

            this is because all are not TRULY Christians , they all just claim by their own words to be Christian, but if they don’t live completely to how the bible states that a Christian is or more specifically how Jesus was, then they are not a TRUE Christian

          • Chris Bryan

            They are then as the bible state “wolves in sheep clothing”

          • Gay Veteran

            yes, because only fundamentalists are true “Christians”
            your arrogance is amazing

          • Chris Bryan

            well, this has to be done from your own freewill, if you talk to Jesus through prayer to ask forgiveness and change this is the first step, just like they say in AA, first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem, and the bible was given to us to let us know what God expects from us(what is right and what is wrong) never take someones word for it, always go to the bible for the answers for there are many that claim to walk right or say they are doing things for God and are doing it all wrong, they are just as human as you and me, we fail all the time, even after you receive salvation from Jesus, we still fail, but by studying God’s word and exercising what He tells us how to live and be and actually doing that, then we will feel the Holy Spirit draw us closer to Jesus and being more like Jesus, this is a spiritual matter, but we will always have this human “demon” as you say fighting against us, this is a constant fight to the end till Jesus comes back. I hope this helps

          • Chris Bryan

            as far as turning you back to girls, that can only happen through time and healing, for the only reason i could see why you wouldn’t like girls in that way , would be cause of experiences you may have gone through in your childhood, i don’t know what they might be cause i wasn’t with you, so i could not possibly attempt to treat you in that way, all i can say is to accept the factor that its in your mindset and to pray to Jesus to help you through this, Jesus can do wonders, He is in control of everything but sometimes He just wants us to want it and ask for it sometimes, and He don’t always respond right away, sometimes He wants to see how bad we want it, how long can you endure asking for help

          • Gay Veteran

            you have a brain, use it once in a while

          • THEanon

            Isn’t homosexuality a genetic trait? And only can be treated (if you want it to be) through gene therapy?

          • Gay Veteran

            you are truly delusional. reilgion exists for 2 reasons: (1) man fears death and (2) as a means of social control (don’t do that or you’ll go to hell)

          • UrAldr

            The way to deal with your demons is to confront them and conquer them. Pray to God for protection, belive you are protected and loved, with honest faith you attain true fearlessness and this is how you defeat the demons of sin, as they thrive on your fears.

          • Gay Veteran

            not born like that? and pray how do YOU know?
            were you born a heterosexual or do you honestly think that you could CHOOSE to love a person of the same gender?

        • Gay Veteran

          speak for yourself, homosexuality is part of nature

      • Gay Veteran

        hey Handog, you obey the REST of Leviticus? or just cherry pick what you want?

  • That Guy

    I am proud to have a creed that i can look to. If believe the Bible makes me a hate group so be it. Have a problem with that consult the constitution.

    • That Guy

      *Amendments 1 and 9 should be more then enough

  • Ran Kelvin

    I wonder if the Jews that run the SPLC even give it a passing thought that the strongest allies that Israel has are Evangelicals and other Christians. Unless that Morris Dees is that cynical, that the shekel comes before God. It seems to me that the God of the Israelites punished those of the chosen when they worshipped gold once before. Shame on you Morris, didn’t your mother teach you better?

    • Gay Veteran

      fundamentalists only support Israel because of the Rapture

  • Brian Miller

    One news source invalidates an entire group of gay couples and their children?

    Now who’s being really dishonest and biased here?

    • Veritae

      Dishonest? Your question presupposes validation as your starting assumption which begs the question.

      • Brian Miller

        Well what were you trying to imply with that link might I ask?

        • Veritae

          Nothing more than an attempt to introduce and solicit a relative response from someone specific to the conversation about his referent to the related issues at hand. These are all hot-bed issues and relevant to the conversation. However, not the first time to have run into him on pa-troll.

      • Gay Veteran

        Brian caught your blood libel, be a man and own it

  • Brian Miller

    Threatening people with damnation if they don’t believe in your god. That’s a sure-fire way of getting people on your side…

    • Ed Lockwood

      Like a hippie threatening to punch your aura.

      • Brian Miller


    • cherylmeril

      Not my side, God’s side and He’s used such threats in the past and carried them out. Noah’s flood, Soddom & Gommorah, parting of the Red Sea, plagues, etc. He’s a jealous God, it’s not a matter of my side at all.

      • Brian Miller

        That’s overkill, literally.

        Mass killings and near extinctions. That’s a sure-fire way of getting people on your side…

  • Dan

    I don’t think Jesus would see eye-to-eye with a bunch of brain dead US facists who aren’t Nazis because they don’t have the work ethic! do you give to the poor? love your enemies? judge others by the same standards you use for yourselves? Sexuality? The first person to see the resurrected Messiah was a prostitute! Don’t worry, you won’t be afforded the same view.

  • Dan Stutzman

    Evangelical Christianity has all the radical elements of a terrorist group. The rest of this article represents such a small sub- section of events, that it is a non-article. And if Evangelicals think they are being persecuted for their ideals, maybe Evangelicals should stop persecuting others first. Considering your ranks include the Westboro Baptist Church, aka, the “God hates fags” church, you really don’t have a leg to stand on.

  • blight14

    ‘Who’ are the $PLC? Therein lies the answer to their evil……

  • blight14

    You may want to check the whos-who of the $PLC and you’ll see the irony of your statement…..the $PLC is almost a TOTALLY kosher organization….THAT is the ‘why’ behind their anti-Christian vitriol………….

    • Philostratos

      Aaaaaaand… we have some nice anti-Semitism from a Christo-fascist Talibangelical, who is probably still upset that the SPLC put his beloved KKK out of business.

  • Bob Marshall

    Just two of the many organizations funded by George Soros

    • Philostratos

      Pacolet, South Carolina

      Still angry about the Civil Rights Act of 1964, eh?


    The dumbed-down masses don’t realize that our economic decline is due to our moral decline. It’s wrong to borrow money that you know you can never repay. They also despise people with a moral compass.

    • Gay Veteran

      no, it’s due to Wall Street banksters and corporations

  • Kenneth R. Hampshire

    According to their actions, they are.

  • Henoch WalkwithGod

    Matthew 10:22

    “And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.”

    Matthew 24:9

    “Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake.”

    Mark 13:9

    “But take heed to yourselves:
    for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye
    shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my
    sake, for a testimony against them.”

  • pandeter

    The day christians don’t force others to live their lives in ways to conform with christian doctrine, they won’t be labeled that way. It’s time they listen to 1 Peter 4:15 and stop meddling in others affairs.

  • Gay Veteran

    You’re free to remain ignorant.

  • cherylmeril

    I understand where they’re coming from because I used to hate Christians too. Now that I’m a Christian I see things differently. People grow, life changes, God presents Himself.

  • Pat Enery

    How did the SPLC miss the jewish holy book known as the Talmud & its fanatical followers who control our country through its sanayim? Look up sanayim & get understanding.

    • Philostratos

      Upvoted. I really love it when Talibangelicals show their anti-Semitism.

      • nofrills

        Did you attend Black Mass today or are you just Plain EVIL? REPENT NOW OR FACE THE ALMIGHTY GOD AND BE CAST INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE! No Joke Jesus is REAL.

        • Philostratos

          Imbecile spotted!

  • Hammerstrike

    Leftist smucks, if christian fascism existed, you would shut your trap and take a bath.

  • Gay Veteran

    simply amazing how the conservative “mind” automatically goes to beastiality.
    and I don’t care what you believe or think, so long as I have equal rights

  • keith

    Well evangelicals are hateful evil people. How can they call themselves Christians when they’re so bloodthirsty and ready to murder others?…0.0…1ac.1.WzUNRKmIwYQ


    What’s also disturbing is the way Christian churches are turning into social clubs instead of a place to worship. People actually base their choice of what church to attend on the size of the gym, weigh-room, possible business connections etc. Most Americans have no idea how dangerous it is to be a Christian in a Muslim-dominated nation.

  • ZombieDawg

    Religions have had their day. They’re obsolete, irrelevant and simply seek to perpetuate mythical beings and blind subservience to outdated ideas, detached from reality.
    Time for the human species to evolve beyond such primitive notions. I have no need to believe in an extraterrestrial life-form with a lifespan measured in millions of years if it even exists at all.
    Even if such a being existed it would be like lab grown bacteria lining up to worship their human creators. Laughable !
    I shape my life and future. When I die I decompose. That’s all folks !

  • Andrew Kind

    Your so called righteousness is nothing but a quagmire of vanity and hatred personally the extinction of Christianity can’t come soon enough

    • nofrills

      Accept Jesus Christ as your personal Savior and you will be Saved. The alternative is ETERNAL DAMNATION IN HELL! You Decide. Don’t wait!

  • Gail Gustin

    Surely you can see why this is happening, can’t you? Even polls by Christian Evangelical groups who polled ex-Christians show that the Bible-thumping hellfire and damnation crowd that is destroying equality for others while demanding it for themselves is scaring people away from Christianity. It’s not the media. It’s the Christians. As Ghandi said, I love your Christ. I hate your Christians.

    If Christians would get God out of that which was designed to be a secular government, you would see that growing hate and fear dissipate in the twinkling of an eye.

  • Josh Destardi

    All religions are bad. If you have to be promised a reward ‘for being good’, there’s deceit there. Why not just be ‘good’ for the sake of being good?????????

    I do have faith in a higher being, but no other human being is going to tell me what my own inner spirit already lets me know. As soon as humankind gets their greedy hands on any ‘religion’ it becomes immediately perverted.

    • William D. Charlton

      Ah, but you’ve forgotten that you’ve already gotten YOUR greedy little hands on it, so it’s already corrupted, unless you’ve already achieved perfection.
      So, tell us, have you achieved perfection and has your religion remain unsullied?

      Also, if you’re keeping to yourself, then you ARE greedy. So it’s doing no one any good, is it?

      • Philostratos

        That is still vastly superior to being told what to think by an idiot preacher, like most of the South.

        • nofrills

          HELL isn’t half full. You’re headed down below. Jesus (GOD) is Alive and Real. Repent before it’s too late!

  • Haylee Noelle Grimes

    It’s not a matter of religion, it’s about having faith, trust, passion, and love in The Lord. Yes you may be homosexual, a sinner, and so on.. But you must realize that The Lord loves you and he wants you to love him in return. All this hatred in the world against each other makes The Lord unhappy. He created man and woman to be happy and rejoice in his presence! Not for what the world has become today. You can just ask for forgiveness ONCE!! And he will forgive you! Yes some religious groups may say this is wrong or that is wrong but don’t focus and worry on them. Do you and only you. Spread the love not the hate. Spread the peace and the joy!

    • Philostratos

      No one cares about your childhood indoctrination. And judging from your picture, you sure have a lot of “joy”.

      • nofrills


  • Jesse Larsen

    This article brought me to remember the following radio segment, which was first aired in the year 2000:

  • God’s Daughter

    We need to make sure that we elect a leader with Christian morals in 2016 who will turn this country back to God and we can again be a blessed country. Satan has dug himself so far into the people and the leadership of this country and he’s only digging deeper.

    However, We can rest easy knowing that at the end of the book, we do come out victorious.

    • Philostratos

      Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Mullah Omar and Ayman Al-Zawahiri are some people who share your “morals”.

      • nofrills

        Satan, Go and crawl back into your Hell FIRE! Enjoy!

        • Philostratos

          You are really uneducated, aren’t you?

  • Philostratos

    Actually, I think the past 2000 years of Christian “love” – murdering people – count as “hate” all the same, Talibangelical fascist.

    • thomas jefferson

      PHIL,just think about how much fun your going to have in OBAMAS fema camps,he loves LUCIFER too………..

      • Philostratos

        It’s a real shame how the good name of Thomas Jefferson is being destroyed by hillbillies taking his name.

        • Adam Steiger

          Responding with ad hominem attacks does nothing towards establishing your credibility, Philostratos.

      • Anon.

        I ALSO enjoy CAPITALIZING random words. MAYBE we should start a WEBSITE on it.

  • Philostratos

    More like the Nazis of modern times. You don’t get to compare yourself to a group that was actually persecuted when you are complaining that you can’t persecute others, Christo-fascist.

  • Philostratos

    The Ned result of PC is not funny? What does this have to do with Game of Thrones?

    Oh, and for pedophilia? Your Bronze Age rag says nothing in opposition to pedophilia.

    Baptist pastor: S– with underage girl ‘is exactly what Christ desires’

  • Philostratos

    You can believe in God, while not being an idiot. You wouldn’t know anything about that.

  • Philostratos

    Ssshh… don’t interfere with his ability to believe in nonsense, that’s “persecution”.

  • Ron Mexico

    Ya’all are straight cowards, period. Christianity has a religious history that includes people being *fed to lions* and burned alive due to their belief. And here you people are complaining because people on social media didn’t like what you said.

    If you lack the strength of conviction in your belief to speak out, that’s on you! Not society. Not the media. Not some unnamed vast anti-Christian conspiracy. *YOU* and you alone.

    Absolutely pathetic.

  • True American

    Why worry about this when the most important thing is our life with God after death? Things of this world do not matter. Live in peace with others and let God judge.

  • c smythe

    My only wish is that humanity will set aside superstitious nonsense and grow the hell up! There are NO gods, ghosts, alien ufos or bigfoot. Now go out there and do something relevant to mankind today!

  • THEanon

    Look, I respect the Christians, and think that the religion has many good morals, but I shall choose my own path.

    Also, what if I took the ring, and sold it to a PAWN shop?

  • dennis reed

    cry me a river christ psychotics

  • dennis reed

    christ psychotic fools

  • ThinkAboutIt

    Open defamation of an individual (Zimmeman) or a group (Christians) must be met with strong fully enforceable laws to make it illegal. Truth and honorable lifestyles, on the other hand, must be encouraged in our society. Instead, the opposite of these are being fiercely promoted. These opposites are what will be the destruction of the USA.

  • Nancy Shorts

    I have no problem with Christians. Just the nasty ones who judge others and then say they are being persecuted. I have known many to insult people for dumb things like how much money they have, or if they have enough money to add to the collection plate. I have seen many of these types that say they are holier than thou insult and mistreat others to the point that they turned away from church. These so called Christians are false Christians but yet there are so many of them in this country that spew hatred toward people for misfortunes that are not their faults. I have heard these same people say they think people are poor because of bad choices when they have no clue why that person is poor. They say they worship Jesus but Jesus did not believe in this. I believe that this is why so many people hate Christians.

  • ktt2013

    Four Horsemen facts 2012, 2013, 2014

    The Book of Revelation has been opened

  • Anonymous

    The American Dream has been destroyed by non other than evangelical Christians who groveled over those 30 pieces of silver while upholding themselves as being holier than thou. It is no secret that the KKK had close connections with southern “Christians” and credit should be given to those who stood up against such inhumane injustice. Evangelical “Christians” are not hated for what they believe, but are merely recognized for their hatred of anyone who does not adhere to their totalitarian, politically corrupt blasphemy of using God to advance their self serving, class based, hierarchical cult.

  • JRSG

    What hypocrysy! Evangelical’s have been spewing hate and vitriol against other religions with whom they disagree and are now claiming to be persecuted because they are labeled extremists. Evangelical’s are a hate group. They spread lies and twist information to further their agenda. They use scare tactics and shock tactics to get people’s attention and then lie about whatever group they are targeting. They stand outside buildings of other religions and carry signs of hate and false information. They go to funerals of those they hate and disrupt it as much as possible (Westboro Baptist Church is a prime example – they go to military funerals and funerals of other religions leaders whom they hate.) They go to weddings of other religions and call the brides whore, prostitute, and the grooms pimps. They try hard to disrupt the weddings and anything else they can.

    Evangelical’s are not hated for what they believe, as stated in the above article. Evangelical’s are not hated for believing in Jesus. People are finally realizing that Evangelical’s use hate tacticts against those whom they disagree with, with whom they have a differing religious theology. So yes, Evangelical’s are extremeists. An Evangelical lady persecuted me, harassed me, and treated me like I was dirt from the time I was twelve years old to when I graduated high school. And she even harassed me when she saw me when I was visiting in my home town. How Christian of her!. So, when Evangelical’s shut down their over seven hundred (over 700) so called non-profit “counter cult” ministries (which they make good money doing) including what is on the internet and television, viciously attacking other religons, then maybe they will quite being called extremists and a hate group.

  • Michael Teigen

    Evangelical Christians are extremists and should be labeled as hate groups. They have absolutely no respect or tolerance for anybody and consistently spew their hatred toward anyone that they think is a “sinner”. Evangelical Christians deserve everything they get. At the end of the day we will all see who goes to heaven and hell.

  • Gary Anderson

    The problem is simple, phony Christians speak about everything but the Gospel. They spend all their time talking about fusing church and state, when Christ said His Kingdom Was NOT OF THIS WORLD. So, that is something that has to be stopped. Criticizing lifestyles was not what Paul and the original Apostles did. So why should all these phony Christians be doing this? Just stop it!

  • frogasaur

    hmmm we can believe any religion we want if the constitution is to be believed and people are being hated for believing in Christ, what is going on in America?

  • frogasaur

    Maybe people don’t like Christians because they are jealous, if they are why don’t they just say they are and we can teach them about Christ and the hate will stop. Hopefully that is the case.

  • Proximis

    If someone told me to write Jesus on a piece of paper, fold it up and stomp on it, I’d write ‘OBAMA’ on it, crumple it up and throw it in the trash. He’s their Savior, right?

    • newenglandsun

      You do realize what the full story behind that lesson was, right? The teacher was expecting them not to stomp on it so that he could inform them about the importance that some names carry. There was absolutely no hostility toward evangelical Christianity there.

  • Keepea Tingit

    You guys get boners when you consider yourselves persecuted, it’s one of your circular logic schticks. The modern Evangelical movement *IS* a hate group, as it ignores the 14th Amendment as well Matthew 7:12 (you’re not even following your own playbook). When trolling is your entire mission in life, people are going to tire of it. That’s not persecution.

  • Guest

    There are good Christians all around the world. But American Protestants are one of the most idiotic, elitist, condescending, uncultured and intolerant groups of people in the United States.

  • Jessica Armstrong

    I am a Christian and I see the hatred from Christians. It is in the political arena where it is at it’s worst. I think a large portion of Christians are being deceived by false information and the venom that is spewed out of their mouths makes me cringe. Christians are suppose to be a light in the world and now many are doing everything contrary to the teachings of Christ. Horrible example to non believers. Why would they ever except Christ as their savior to be like these hateful Christians? Don’t mistake hatred towards Christians as biblical prophecy as these Christians are not being good servants and messangers of the Lord.

  • Barry Gowland

    And it’s even starting to be felt here in the UK. If it isn’t ranters indulging in a bit of Qur’an-bashing, it’s gays who want to put out of business ALL who don’t subscribe to their perverse notion of what constitutes marriage.

  • Barry Gowland

    If the SPLC isn’t careful it might find itself on the receiving end of its own propaganda! Seriously, however, is it “hatred” or even being just plain uncharitable to warn anyone who you perceive to be in danger to get out of its way? As an Old Testament prophet stated, quoting Almighty God as his authority: “If you see a wicked man and do dot warn him so that he might turn from his wickedness, he shall die in his iniquity; but his blood I will require at your hand. But if you warn the wicked man, and he does not turn from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but you have saved yourself”(see Ezekiel, chapter 33, verses 8 and 9).

  • smokedsalmoned

    Obamas war on christians continues

  • smokedsalmoned

    Morality is now viewed as evil by the left.

  • smokedsalmoned

    Media Voted Obama In 08 Why Did you.


    While tracking down
    salacious and unfounded rumours that one candidates running mate was
    pretending to have the child of her young daughter, to avoid a scandal, they
    ignored numerous stories about the Democrat Presidential
    Candidates which were based in fact back in 2008.


    Teen Drug use, a mentor who has made numerous racist &
    unamerican statements in church, an advisor who was removed as Fannie Mae CEO,
    a convicted racketeer who sold him his Illinois home & then a plot of land
    nearby, a lack of legitimate experience and an associate/friend/ally who was US
    grown terrorist bomber (William Ayres).


    The Media also told you to vote Obama in 2012 and the uninformed did it again?

  • smokedsalmoned

    .Media death count encourages
    Hamas to use human shields (Part 1)



    By emphasizing the comparative body counts without
    providing the reasons for the disparity, the media plays into the hands of
    Hamas, and encourages that terrorist organization to continue to pursue its
    dead baby strategy.

    The media loves
    to count the dead bodies on each side of a conflict. It’s much easier to
    count that to explain. Hamas knows this. That’s why they employ
    what has come to be known as “the dead baby strategy”.

    Hamas’ strategy since Israel left Gaza in 2005 has been exactly the same.
    The media response has been exactly the same. And Hamas will continue to
    employ a strategy that causes many Palestinian civilians to die as long as the
    media keeps up its thoughtless body count.

    Here’s the way it works: Hamas deliberately fires its rockets from densely
    populated civilian areas, using hospitals, disability centers, mosques and
    schools as launching sites. This puts Israel to the tragic choice of
    either allowing the rockets to endanger its civilians or to destroy the rocket
    launchers, thereby risking civilian casualties among Hamas’ human
    shields. Often Israel chooses to forgo attacking military targets, so as
    not to put Palestinian civilians at risk. Sometimes it has no choice,
    because the rocket fire against its civilians is persistent. Palestinian
    civilians are killed despite Israel’s best efforts precisely because Hamas
    wants civilians to be killed, especially if these civilians are children, women
    or the elderly. Hamas stands ready to parade these human shields in front
    of the media which is eager to show the dead and count the bodies.

    Hamas could easily reduce the death and injury toll among its civilians, by
    simply allowing them to go underground into tunnels and shelters which abound
    throughout Gaza. But Hamas has a deliberate policy of refusing to allow
    civilians to enter the tunnels or shelters. They reserve these places of
    refuge for their fighters and commanders, which explains why so few Hamas
    fighters have been killed. If Hamas were to reverse its policy and allow
    civilians into the shelters while requiring its fighters to stay above ground,
    the ratio of civilians to fighters killed would dramatically change. That
    is why in each of the wars between Hamas and Israel there have been more
    Palestinian than Israeli civilian deaths and injuries. It is part of
    Hamas’ dead baby strategy and it works, because the media facilitates it.

    The media also emphasizes the fact that thus far no Israelis have been killed
    by Hamas rocket fire. Indeed some media and international organizations
    seem implicitly to be condemning Israel for protecting the lives of its own
    citizens, by repeatedly pointing out that none have died, while Palestinian
    deaths have reached nearly 200. The reason there have been no Israeli
    deaths so far is because Israel spends hundreds of millions of dollars trying
    to protect its civilians, while Hamas spends its resources deliberately
    exposing its civilians to the risks of Israeli counterattacks. Israel has
    built shelters all throughout the country and has spent a fortune on the Iron
    Dome system. The results have been impressive, though many Israelis
    suffer from trauma, shock and the inevitable long term consequences of being
    exposed to constant rocket fire.

    How many times have you heard, seen or read the body counts: nearly 200
    Palestinians dead, no Israelis dead. This is usually accompanied by an
    accusation that Israel is violating the international law requirement of
    “proportionality.” This is a misuse of the term, which has a precise
    meaning in international law that reflects a broader morality. Under
    international law, a nation has the right to attack military targets.
    Period! It doesn’t matter whether the rockets coming from these launchers
    have as yet succeeded in their task of killing civilians. There can be no
    doubt under international law that rocket launchers, and the fighters who
    employ them are legitimate military targets. Israel is therefore entitled
    to attack these targets, even if no Israeli civilians have been killed, so long
    as it can do so without causing disproportionate civilian casualties.

    Media death count
    encourages Hamas to use human shields
    (Part 2)

    This rule was not addressed to an enemy that deliberately uses human shields to
    protect its military targets and combatants against legitimate attacks.
    Proportionality is not judged by the number of civilians actually killed by
    Hamas rockets, but rather by the risks posed to Israelis. These risks
    have been diminished, but not eliminated by the Iron Dome system. They
    have also been considerably diminished by Israel’s counterattacks on the
    missile launchers and those who employ them. Without these
    counterattacks, it is highly likely that more Hamas missiles would have made it
    through the Iron Dome system which has been approximately 85% effective.
    Israel has every right under the rules of proportionality to attack these
    military targets, so long as they take reasonable efforts to reduce civilian
    casualties. They have done so by leafleting, by calling, and by other
    methods of warning civilians to leave target areas. Hamas leaders, on the
    other hand, have urged, and sometimes compelled, their civilians to remain in
    harm’s way as human shields.

    The media, by emphasizing the comparative body counts without providing the
    reasons for the disparity, play into the hands of Hamas, and encourage that
    terrorist organization, to continue to pursue its dead baby strategy. So
    the next time those in the media promote a body count without explanation, they
    should point a finger at themselves for contributing to this deadly


    07/15/2014 20:35

    (Smokedsalmoned points out – Alan is a lifelong democrat and
    a strong supporter of leftist policy. )

  • smokedsalmoned

    Why Are You A Democrat?


    The Democratic Party attracts
    a wide variety of persons, lawyers, artists, entertainers, disaffected minority
    members who see themselves as victims, the young, the uneducated, anarchists,
    illegal aliens, communists, the unaccomplished, pro drug legalizers, anti
    authoritarians etc.


    If it offers something to all of those people, such disparate groups, what
    exactly are they offering or giving each of them and do you really
    support all of those things. Perhaps its time for a

  • smokedsalmoned

    Democratic Party Tried To Strip Out Pro-Israel & Anti Hamas Language From 2012 Party Platform

    In what should be a real wake-up call
    to every pro-Israel American that naively and foolishly believed Barack Obama
    when he said he “has Israel’s
    back,” the president’s party has just stripped pro-Israel language from
    its platform. And as Yid
    the Lid points
    out, given that Obama told President Mevedev of Russia he will have more flexibility to do what
    he wishes in a second term, and if the Democratic platform is any indication,
    his “flexibility” is not going to be a good thing for the only
    democracy in the Middle East, Israel.
    Comparing the language of the 2008 Democratic Party Platform
    and the 2012
    Democratic Party Platform a key section has been removed.

    Below is the section missing from the
    2012 document. Pay special attention to the areas in bold:


    The United
    States and its Quartet partners should continue to
    isolate Hamas until it renounces terrorism, recognizes Israel’s
    right to exist, and abides by past agreements. Sustained American leadership
    for peace and security will require patient efforts and the personal commitment
    of the President of the United
    States. The creation of a Palestinian state
    through final status negotiations, together with an international compensation
    mechanism, should resolve the issue of Palestinian
    refugees by allowing them to settle there, rather than in Israel.
    All understand that it is unrealistic to expect the outcome
    of final status negotiations to be a full and complete return to the armistice
    lines of 1949. Jerusalem is and will remain the
    capital of Israel.The parties have agreed that Jerusalem is a matter for final status
    negotiations. It should remain an undivided city accessible to people of all


    As Yid
    the Lid goes on
    to explain in detail, each of these items are crucial to Israel and each
    have been key areas of contention for those who believe this President has not
    been friendly to the Jewish State.

    Update 1: Charles Krauthammer says the
    Democrats’ ‘Jerusalem’
    platform omission and the its omission of ‘God’ is
    ‘extremely significant’ ___

    don’t really tell you what’s going to happen,” Krauthammer said. “But
    if you compare today with what people used to believe and used to say and used
    to proclaim, and you see these glaring changes — you know that something has
    changed within the party.”

    “This is one place where Obama has led
    from in front and not from behind: moving the party, not just himself. And that
    I think is extremely politically significant.”

    Update 2: It’s not just the pro-Israel language that’s been
    stripped, the single reference to God in the Democrats’ platform has also
    now been stripped out.

    September 4, 2012


    9-5-12 Update – They eventually voted to
    put back in God and Jerusalem as the as the
    capital of Israel
    but left out the rest. Notable, when it
    was announce they were going to add all of this back in there was a loud chorus
    of boo’s and it took three votes to get it added back in after it seemed
    apparent that the voice votes were adamantly against it..

  • smokedsalmoned

    Get To Know The Center For Social Inclusion Part 1 (Strong Supporters of Obama And Democrats. Web Site At End Of Article.

    -Views the U.S. as a nation infested with white racism and discrimination

    -Seeks to counteract America’s “structural racism” by means of taxpayer-funded policy initiatives

    -Supports the training of local community organizers to serve as agents of social change

    Founded in 2002 as a project of the Tides Center, the Center for Social Inclusion (CSI) contends that “structural racism” thoroughly pervades American society and its institutions. To support this assertion, CSI cites the fact that “people of color,” as compared to whites, are much likelier to be unemployed, to attend schools that are underfunded, to drop out of school without graduating, to lack health insurance, and to be poor. By CSI’s reckoning, “policy is the root” of each of these problems, and it is “also the place to find a solution.”

    In pursuit of such a solution, CSI administers four major programs designed to “develop policy ideas to transform” the existing “structures and systems that perpetuate the exclusion of communities of color.” Each program emphasizes the importance of public funding, which would facilitate a redistribution of wealth from the larger pool of American taxpayers to selected nonwhite minority communities:

    * Energy Democracy: Rooted in the premise that human industrial activity is responsible for the “climate change” that allegedly threatens the survival of all life on earth, this program contends that Americans ought not rely, for their energy needs, on large oil, gas, and electric corporations that “are not always responsive to community needs and concerns … because they obligate themselves to shareholder profits, not our children’s health.” As an alternative, CSI advocates a system whereby individual communities could own and operate their own locally situated, clean-energy (i.e., wind and solar) production and distribution systems.

    Noting that “communities of color … face extra barriers in ownership, financing, and access to technology” because they tend to have less capital than their white counterparts, CSI calls on federal, state, and local governments to create, with taxpayer dollars, so-called “Energy Improvement Districts.” These districts would consist of tracts of land and designated buildings zoned specifically for energy-production purposes in black and Hispanic neighborhoods.

    * Transportation Equity: This CSI program advocates increased public funding for mass-transit service in black and Hispanic neighborhoods, along with the creation of “more transportation-related jobs for disadvantaged people.”

    * Broadband Equity: Lamenting that “too many” nonwhite minorities lack “access to high-quality, high-speed Internet” as a result of “digital redlining,” CSI asserts: “People of color, thanks to a history of housing discrimination and poverty, tend to live in older buildings and communities. Telecoms avoid investing in these communities because of the cost of upgrading the infrastructure and the impact on their profit margin.” Because “we can’t rely on the big telecommunication companies” in the private sector to make Internet service available to nonwhite communities, says CSI, public financing is required.

    Get To Know The Center For Social Inclusion Part 2 (Strong Supporters of Obama And Democrats. Web Site At End Of Article.

    * Food Equity: Working “with food justice leaders and grassroots groups to generate policy strategies and solutions that will create a more equitable food system, from seed to community,” CSI promotes “the local production and distribution of healthy food as well as policies that improve available data to make it easier to identify underserved communities.” Such efforts to “reduc[e] the [food] availability differences to the lowest feasible level,” says CSI, should be funded jointly by public-sector sources and private-sector philanthropists.

    Viewing “community organizers and other grassroots advocates” as those who are best equipped to bring about the foregoing policy initiatives, CSI invests considerable resources in the training of such activists. Further, the Center strives to connect these local leaders “to opportunities for state and national policy development and reform.”

    CSI traces the roots of American racism directly to conservatism, which it depicts as a philosophy that is insensitive to the needs of the poor: “For more than a quarter century, right-wing rhetoric has dominated debates of racial justice – undermining efforts to create a more equal society, and tearing apart the social safety net in the process.”

    The founder and president of CSI is Maya Wiley, a civil-rights attorney and policy advocate who earned a J.D. from the Columbia University School of Law in 1989. She is the daughter of the late George Wiley, who established the National Welfare Rights Organization in 1967. Prior to founding CSI, Maya Wiley was a senior advisor on race and poverty with George Soros’s Open Society Institute. She also has worked for the National Legal Department of the American Civil Liberties Union; the Poverty and Justice Program of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund; and the Civil Division of the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York. Moreover, Wiley has served on the boards of Human Rights Watch, the Institute on Race and Poverty (at the University of Minnesota School of Law), and the Council on Foreign Relations. She currently chairs the Tides Network Board.

    CSI’s board of directors consists of officials from numerous left-wing organizations, including the National Economic and Social Rights Initiative, the Tides Network, the Insight Center for Community Economic Development, the New World Foundation, the Grassroots Policy Project, the American Values Institute, and Pineros y Campesinos Unidos de Noreste.

    CSI is heavily bankrolled by such foundations as the Open Society Institute and the Tides Foundation.

    150 Broadway, Suite 303

    New York, NY 10038

    Phone :(212) 248-2785

    Fax :(212) 248-6409

    Email :info@thecsi. org

    ww.centerforsocialinclusion. org

  • smokedsalmoned

    Democrats Demographic Voter Makeup. Exactly What Percent Of Democrats Are Taxpayers
    Or High School Grads?


    Democrats as a group aren’t nearly as bright as they like to


    29% of the US
    population is African American and Latino. While they have high school
    graduation rates under 50%, illegitimacy rates well over 50%, along with
    illiteracy rates and poverty rates to match, and make up about 60% of our
    prison populations, they do vote 85+% Democrat.


    That means that roughly 1/2 of registered Democrats come from the poorest, most
    inarcerated, least literate, least educated portion of our population.


    With registered voters at 60% demaocrat, 40% Republican, it was key that
    Independents rethink their vote for Obama back in 2008 when they looked at the 2012
    ballot….but they didn’t.


    As for democrats, they need to look in the mirror and ask themselves what the
    heck they have so in common with the poorest / least educated / most
    incarcerated/ most illegitimate / most illiterate portion of the US population, that
    they vote the same way. If they merely
    identify with these groups out of misplaced guilt or pity for their misfortune,
    that is a path the rest of us do not want to go down.


    Does it bother Democrats that their agenda of entitlement programs & big
    government jobs, pro abortion stance, plus outright welfare, is the only reason
    these folks turn around and vote Democrat? If democrat policy was not geared toward
    “paying” these folks off they would not vote with them.


    If your political party is in a stranglehold with the least
    productive, least educated & most incarcerated members of society and your
    own political positions (entitlement, welfare, abortion, union schools, removal
    of discipline from schools) can actually be shown to be in a direct correlation
    with those poor peoples decline in educational achievement, economic standing
    why would you continue to support positions that appear to have directly
    impoverished half your supporters.


    Furthermore, does it bother Democrats that about ½ of Americans
    end up paying zero federal tax dollars.


    Do tax paying democrats ever ask themselves what percent of
    their own voter base pay zero taxes and
    how hypocritical that looks to the rest of us who do pay taxes every time they
    run up massive deficits?


    ((In addition, knowing who is in charge for
    nearly the next two years and knowing Obama will possibly win reelection, that
    probably did not help S&P when reviewing the US Credit score recently. Given the track record and facts in front of
    them they had to lower our credit watch since they have to know that any
    Democrat Senate or President is simply going to spend in record amounts,
    further devaluing the dollar and racking up debt.))

  • smokedsalmoned

    IRS Scandal Started at the Top

    bureaucrats at the Internal Revenue Service did exactly what the president said
    was the right and honorable thing to do.

    the White House involved in the IRS’s targeting of conservatives? No
    investigation needed to answer that one. Of course it was..

    Obama and Co. are in full deniability mode, noting that the IRS is an
    “independent” agency and that they knew nothing about its abuse. The
    media and Congress are sleuthing for some hint that Mr. Obama picked up the
    phone and sicced the tax dogs on his enemies.

    editorial page editor James Freeman on Friday’s IRS congressional hearing.
    Photo: Associated Press

    that’s not how things work in post-Watergate Washington. Mr. Obama didn’t need
    to pick up the phone. All he needed to do was exactly what he did do, in full
    view, for three years: Publicly suggest that conservative political groups were
    engaged in nefarious deeds; publicly call out by name political opponents whom
    he’d like to see harassed; and publicly have his party pressure the IRS to take

    Obama now professes shock and outrage that bureaucrats at the IRS did exactly
    what the president of the United States said was the right and honorable thing
    to do. “He put a target on our backs, and he’s now going to blame the
    people who are shooting at us?” asks Idaho businessman and longtime
    Republican donor Frank VanderSloot.

    VanderSloot is the Obama target who in 2011 made a sizable donation to a group
    supporting Mitt Romney. In April 2012, an Obama campaign website named and
    slurred eight Romney donors. It tarred Mr. VanderSloot as a “wealthy
    individual” with a “less-than-reputable record.” Other donors
    were described as having been “on the wrong side of the law.”

    was the Obama version of the phone call—put out to every government
    investigator (and liberal activist) in the land.

    days later, a man working for a political opposition-research firm called an
    Idaho courthouse for Mr. VanderSloot’s divorce records. In June, the IRS
    informed Mr. VanderSloot and his wife of an audit of two years of their taxes.
    In July, the Department of Labor informed him of an audit of the guest workers
    on his Idaho cattle ranch. In September, the IRS informed him of a second
    audit, of one of his businesses. Mr. VanderSloot, who had never been audited
    before, was subject to three in the four months after Mr. Obama teed him up for
    such scrutiny.

    last of these audits was only concluded in recent weeks. Not one resulted in a
    fine or penalty. But Mr. VanderSloot has been waiting more than 20 months for a
    sizable refund and estimates his legal bills are $80,000. That figure doesn’t
    account for what the president’s vilification has done to his business and

    Obama call for scrutiny wasn’t a mistake; it was the president’s strategy—one
    pursued throughout 2012. The way to limit Romney money was to intimidate donors
    from giving. Donate, and the president would at best tie you to Big Oil or Wall
    Street, at worst put your name in bold, and flag you as “less than
    reputable” to everyone who worked for him: the IRS, the SEC, the Justice
    Department. The president didn’t need a telephone; he had a megaphone.

    same threat was made to conservative groups that might dare play in the election.
    As early as January 2010, Mr. Obama would, in his state of the union address,
    cast aspersions on the Supreme Court’s Citizens United ruling, claiming that it
    “reversed a century of law to open the floodgates for special
    interests” (read conservative groups).

    president derided “tea baggers.” Vice President Joe Biden compared
    them to “terrorists.” In more than a dozen speeches Mr. Obama raised
    the specter that these groups represented nefarious interests that were
    perverting elections. “Nobody knows who’s paying for these ads,” he
    warned. “We don’t know where this money is coming from,” he intoned.

    case the IRS missed his point, he raised the threat of illegality: “All
    around this country there are groups with harmless-sounding names like Americans
    for Prosperity, who are running millions of dollars of ads against Democratic
    candidates . . . And they don’t have to say who exactly the Americans for
    Prosperity are. You don’t know if it’s a foreign-controlled corporation.”

    IRS Scandal Started at the Top (Part 2)

    of directly asking federal agencies to investigate these groups, this is as
    close as it gets. Especially as top congressional Democrats were putting in
    their own versions of phone calls, sending letters to the IRS that accused it
    of having “failed to address” the “problem” of groups that
    were “improperly engaged” in campaigns. Because guess who controls
    that “independent” agency’s budget?

    IRS is easy to demonize, but it doesn’t exist in a vacuum. It got its heading
    from a president, and his party, who did in fact send it orders—openly, for the
    world to see. In his Tuesday press grilling, no question agitated White House
    Press Secretary Jay Carney more than the one that got to the heart of the
    matter: Given the president’s “animosity” toward Citizens United,
    might he have “appreciated or wanted the IRS to be looking and
    scrutinizing those . . .” Mr. Carney cut off the reporter with
    “That’s a preposterous assertion.”

    because, according to Mr. Obama, he is “outraged” and
    “angry” that the IRS looked into the very groups and individuals that
    he spent years claiming were shady, undemocratic, even lawbreaking. After all,
    he expects the IRS to “operate with absolute integrity.” Even when he
    does not.

    A. Strassel



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    Upon this battle
    depends the survival of Western-Christian civilization

    By Jake

    My last article was on the 2012 Olympics and “Socialists sentiments”
    that were on display in London during the opening ceremonies. One of my all
    time favorite musicians Paul McCartney not only sang Hey Jude during the
    opening celebration but sang a bit from a song called The End from the
    famous Abbey Road album released 43 years ago this month. Beatles
    history and nostalgia has me thinking of the relationship between Western Culture
    and the influence of anti-Western culture as manifested and perpetuated by the
    various utopic socialistic, progressive and multicultural voices of years gone
    by and today.

    I believe the 1966 Beatles song Taxman expresses the rude awakening one can have
    when the reality of socialistic machinations are manifested into society in the
    form of progressive-punitive taxation and Marxian redistribution of wealth as
    cleverly achieved by England’s Fabian socialists via Harold Wilson and the
    British Labour Party and by American Fabians and progressives via Barack Obama
    and the Democratic Party. Beatle George Harrison tells us that the song “Taxman
    was when I first realized that even though we had started earning money, we
    were actually giving most of it away in taxes. It was and still is
    typical.” The confiscation of hard working citizens creativity and
    productivity via inordinate taxation by Big Government Bureaucrats is the
    typical mode of operation of Socialists worldwide from London to Beijing and
    from Paris to Washington D.C.

    In London, England in 1848 Karl Marx wrote his pernicious treatise The
    Communist Manifesto where he called for The State to coercively
    redistribute wealth from the so-called evil and greedy bourgeoisie capitalists
    to the so called oppressed, righteous and needy proletariat. Unfortunately for
    Marx and his militant minions his ideas were not working well with Western
    Culture’s main lynchpins and defenders: Great Britain and the United States of

    Soon after Marx’s death in 1883 Marxist intellectuals created a clever and sly
    strategy that was designed to fool English Conservative-Christians into
    believing that their brand of socialism was not only harmless and innocuous but
    THE answer to all of England’s socials woes. It has taken a few generations but
    the symbols of the Fabians, a wolf in sheep’s clothing and a slow but steady
    turtle is in no hurry to destroy Great Britain’s and America’s
    Western-Christian culture and civilization. Slowly but surely stealth Fabian
    cultural Marxism has bit by bit and piece by piece infiltrated English and
    American culture, society, politics, media and education on all levels with
    political correctness, social engineering, the restructuring of the family, the
    normalization of abnormal and deviant sinful behavior and a crib to crypt
    culture that turns people away from God and directs them to the State for
    ultimate security.

    Winston Churchill who in 1945 was replaced as Prime Minister of the UK by the
    Fabian Socialist Clement Atlee stirred the people of Great Britain and the
    world to action in 1940 versus the ugly philosophy of the National Socialists,
    which he called “a new Dark Age made more sinister…by the lights of a
    perverted science.” A few years later Churchill would call Soviet Socialism
    “an Iron Curtain of oppression and totalitarianism.”

    In like manner Fabian and Obama Socialism is a perverted science and an iron
    curtain of oppression that is a stealth, so called “scientific
    socialism” that is a conglomeration of Keynesian economics, cultural Marxism,
    Harvard critical theory, Marcuse relativism, Gramscian hegemony and Alinsky
    tactics that are all hell bent to destroy Western civilization’s heavenly
    values and liberties. Very cleverly they are not overtly militant and openly
    Marxist for to do so would take the camouflaged wool off their wolf’s lair and
    reveal the nefarious nature of their anti-Christian worldview. The Fabians,
    progressives and socialists of various strips have been patient, steady, and
    long-suffering in their march through the institutions of Western Culture and
    Civilization. The socialists know their season is nigh, they know their time
    has come as the Christian Civilization of England and America is dying and has
    gone the way of Empires of yester year. Soon the Fabian socialists shall kick
    in the door of the United Kingdom and the United States accomplishing through
    culture what Hitler could never do through his Luftwaffe and Wehrmacht, that
    is: the capitulation of England and America’s Christian Civilization.

    The English will probably never again sing the inspiring 1939 World War Two
    song “There Always be an England.” No, there will not always be a
    Christian England as we knew her, she is dying at the hands of cultural
    Marxism, Fabian and English apathy and indifference to it’s plight. Winston
    Churchill in his wonderfully inspiring 1940 speech for the Battle of Britain

    “Upon this battle depends the survival of Christian civilization. Upon it
    depends our own British life, and the long continuity of our institutions and
    our Empire. The whole fury and might of the enemy must very soon be turned on
    us. Hitler knows that he will have to break us in this Island or lose the war.
    If we can stand up to him, all Europe may be free and the life of the world may
    move forward into broad, sunlit uplands. But if we fail, then the whole world,
    including the United States, including all that we have known and cared for,
    will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age made more sinister, and perhaps more
    protracted, by the lights of perverted science. Let us therefore brace
    ourselves to our duties, and so bear ourselves that if the British Empire and
    its Commonwealth last for a thousand years, men will still say, ‘This was their
    finest hour.'”

    Unless the English and Americans wake up and brace themselves to their duties,
    their finest hour shall never be again. The British and American way of life
    and the long continuity of their Western-Christian institutions shall be no
    more and they will succumb to a new dark age of socialism and total government
    control. Where there is no Christianity there is no liberty and where there is
    no Western-Christian civilization there is no sacredness of life and marriage
    as given to us by our Creator.

    The flag of Great Britain is the Union Jack; it comprises 3 Christian Crosses
    that represent the sacrifice given for the redemption of mankind by Christ and
    his followers. No such martyrs exist today in England! Where are the Alfred The
    Great’s? Where are the William Wilberforce’s? Where are the Winston Churchill’s
    to awaken the soul of Britain that declares, “We have before us an ordeal
    of the most grievous kind. We have before us many, many long months of struggle
    and of suffering.” Where are the voices declaring “we have nothing to
    offer but blood, toil, tears and sweet” against those who would destroy
    our Freedoms?

    In similar fashion to the 1936 Summer Olympics of Germany the World is
    distracted and entertained by the 2012 Summer Olympics of England. We
    rightfully enjoy and are enthused by the wonder of Olympic athletic competition
    and achievement while all along wishing the world was at peace with goodwill
    towards all. As in 1936 there are sinister forces crawling the earth desiring
    to devour our children and destroy the life and liberty we hold so dear. Too
    many in the Western world today cannot be bothered when Governments act as God,
    steal our money, confiscate our property, take our guns, spend what they do not
    have, stimulate through artificial fabrication and bogus borrowing while
    destroying free enterprise through central control, collective planning and
    bureaucratic balderdash that stifles the entrepreneurial spirit and eliminates
    millions of creative citizens economic opportunities.

    This isn’t just an English or European problem. This is an international problem
    whose tentacles have crepe into American soil, American institutions, American
    politics, and American values and they are destroying the very heart and soul
    of our Republic under God. Where are the Patrick Henry’s who passionately
    proclaim for Liberty or Death? Where are the Sam and John Adams who declare we
    are Sons of Liberty over tyranny? Where are the Nathan Hale’s who cry out
    “I regret I have only but one life to give for my country?”

    This Battle, this War is in some ways more difficult to detect than during
    World War II and the Cold War. In those Wars you could readily see, hear,
    smell, taste, and touch the Socialistic enemy of Germany and Russia. Today the
    enemy is within. They are within our schools, within our churches, within our
    media, within our movies, within our State and Federal Capitols and within the
    White House and in far too many homes in America.

    The United States like Great Britain is dying and we must find the courage to
    stand up to this nefarious enemy and proclaim: “You will NOT succeed on
    our watch, you will NOT be victorious! Not while we still have
    breath-to-breath, minds to think and tongues to declare “give us Liberty
    or give us Death!”

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    Position On Civil Rights

    Democrat President John F. Kennedy is lauded as a proponent of civil rights
    but now here’s the rest of the story.

    John F Kennedy voted against the 1957 Civil rights
    Act while he was a senator, as did Democrat Senator Al Gore, Sr..
    After he became president, John F. Kennedy was opposed to the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. King
    that was organized by A. Phillip Randolph who was a black Republican.
    In addition, it was President Kennedy, through his brother Attorney General
    Robert Kennedy, had Dr. King wiretapped and investigated by the FBI on
    suspicion of being a Communist in order to undermine Dr. King.”

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    Can You Say Islamic
    Terrorism? Obama Can’t.

    — Why won’t Obama,
    Clinton or others in the Administration use the phrase Islamic Terrorism. Instead they prefer man made terrorist acts
    (Homeland Securities Favored Term).

    — Not all Germans were Nazis nor
    were all Russians Communists. If you refuse be able to say the actual name of
    the enemy who is trying to kill you, your ability to truly fight them (propaganda,
    rationale, identification etc)is severely limited.

    — After the bombing of
    2 US
    embassies, The Stark, The Pentagon, The Twin Towers, The Aquille Lauro,
    etc. etc., which were all perpetrated by people of the Islamic
    faith, whose radical adherents all declare Jihad in the name of the Muslim
    faith against us, what else would you call it?

    You need to be specific about what you are fighting. You blame the Bush
    admin for not having an exit strategy or a clear target in Afghan and Iraq, but
    if you simply fail to even call it what it is, which recognizes its root cause
    or birthplace, then how on earth can you ever effectively defend yourself
    against it?

    Simply shouting that you are against terrorism without recognizing the need to
    focus on the Madrosa Schools, the governments who steal oil wealth from their
    people or allow Muslim Clerics to continue to spout hate, genocide and fund for
    the same dark cause, you will never have a chance to dampen let alone defeat

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    Is The MSA The Muslim KKK? Or Is It Simply A
    Terrorist Recruiting Organization?

    Journalist Deborah Scroggins, in
    exploring how suspected al-Qaeda member Aafia Siddiqui became an Islamist
    extremist, wrote that if Siddiqui “was drawn into terrorism, it may have
    been through the contacts and friendships she made in the early 1990s working
    for MIT’s Muslim Students Association. Members of the Muslim Brotherhood, the
    world’s oldest and biggest Islamist movement, established the first MSAs in the
    country… and the movement’s ideology continued to influence the MSA long
    after that. At MIT, several of the MSA’s most active members had fallen under
    the spell of Abdullah Azzam, a Muslim Brother who was Osama bin Laden’s
    mentor…. [Azzam] had established the Al Kifah Refugee Center to function as
    its worldwide recruiting post, propaganda office, and fund-raising center for
    the mujahideen fighting in Afghanistan
    … It would become the nucleus of the al-Qaeda organization.”


    Two further examples of solid links of terrorism to the MSA:


    –Rutgers MSA
    (mulsim student association) co-founder Ramzi Yousef, a cousin of Siddiqui’s
    second husband, is currently imprisoned for helping plan the 1993 World Trade
    Center bombing.


    –Ali Asad
    Chandia, who was president of the MSA at Montgomery College
    from 1998 to 1999,was convicted of providing material support to
    Lashkar-e-Taiba, a Pakistani terrorist organization, and assisting the Virginia
    Jihad Network, and sentenced to 15 years in prison.


    During a world wide war on terrorism in which attacks by Muslim terrorists have
    occurred on US
    soil, foiled & successful, are we truly certain of the key purpose of the
    The Muslim Student Associations on our college campuses? If not, should
    they be allowed to continue if they are a hot bed of terrorist
    recruitment? Can our government assure us that be sure that they are properly monitoring a group that
    seems to be everything a fifth columnists dream would be for Al Queda and

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    .Reverend Wrights Muslim Past

    Considering that Reverend Wright is a former Muslim, one has to grow ever more
    concerned with Barack Obamas choice of friends and mentors.

    (As per Ryan
    Lizza in a March 2007 The New
    Republic article “After many lectures like this,
    Obama decided to take a second look at Wright’s church. Older pastors warned
    him that Trinity was for “Buppies”–black urban professionals–and didn’t have
    enough street cred. But Wright
    was a former Muslim and black nationalist who had studied at Howard and
    Chicago, and Trinity’s guiding principles – what th e church calls the “Black
    Value System”–included a “Disavowal of
    the Pursuit of Middleclassness.’”).

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    The Obama Administration Opens Formal Contacts With the
    Muslim Brotherhood (part 1)

    Don’t say I didn’t warn you. Besides explaining what the
    Muslim Brotherhood is and has always been, the major point of The Grand Jihad:
    How Islam and the West Sabotage America was to warn that this day was coming.
    And so it has come: Reuters reports that the Obama administration has
    established a policy of formal contacts with the Muslim Brotherhood.

    The Brotherhood is the world’s most important Islamist
    organization. It is openly, unabashedly committed to the destruction of the
    United States and the West. In typical Obama fashion, this disastrous decision
    to engage America’s avowed enemies has been couched as the mere continuation of
    prior policy: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is reported to have confirmed
    that the U.S. would “resume” contacts which had “occurred in recent years.” But
    make no mistake about it, this is a new policy.

    The contacts that have occurred in recent years have been
    outside of U.S. policy — at the urging of leftists in the State Department, the
    intelligence community, the commentariat, and, in particular, the Obama White
    House. They have long campaigned for a policy of “engagement” with the Muslim
    Brotherhood (including Hamas, the terrorist organization that is the
    Brotherhood’s Palestinian branch). They’ve needed to do this campaigning
    because it was American policy not to deal with the Brotherhood — dealing with
    the Brothers empowers them, bolstering their status as leaders of mainstream
    Islam and legitimizing their agenda, which calls for Islamicizing societies,
    ultimately establishing a global caliphate, destroying Israel, and
    incrementally expanding sharia throughout the West.

    This day has been coming since President Obama’s first day
    in office. In 2007-08, the Brotherhood was proved by the Justice Department to
    be engaged in what the Brotherhood itself describes as a “grand jihad” aimed at
    the “elimination and destruction of Western civilization from within” by
    “sabotage.” The title of my book was not my words but theirs — taken from their
    internal memoranda, seized by the FBI from the home of a Brotherhood official.
    The Brotherhood’s anti-U.S. strategy was not news to anyone who follows
    Islamist movements, but the proof for all to see came during the Holy Land
    Foundation (HLF) trial, during which several defendants were convicted of
    funneling millions of dollars to Hamas. Supporting Hamas’s terrorist war
    against Israel has been the Brotherhood’s highest priority in the U.S. since
    Hamas was formed, and trial evidence showed unmistakably that the leading
    Islamist organizations in the U.S. — almost all either formed by or having ties
    to the Brotherhood — were complicit.

    Among the most important of these is the Islamic Society of
    North America (ISNA), which was designated as an unindicted coconspirator by
    the Justice Department and shown by prosecutors to have housed the HLF in its
    offices and to have helped it transfer money to Hamas fronts overseas. Yet,
    only a few months after the convictions, the Obama administration dispatched
    Valerie Jarrett, the president’s close friend and top political adviser, to
    give the keynote address at ISNA’s 2009 convention. This was only the most
    notorious of the administration’s outreach episodes involving groups (such as
    CAIR) which were shown to be Brotherhood affiliates and Islamist apologists.
    Indeed, by the time of Ms. Jarrett’s appearance at the ISNA convention, ISNA
    president Ingrid Mattson had been chosen to speak at Obama’s inauguration
    ceremonies, and Los Angeles Deputy Mayor Arif Alikhan (who has referred to
    Hezbollah as a “liberation movement”) was named assistant secretary for policy
    development at Obama’s Homeland Security Department.

    (By Andrew C. McCarthy June 30, 2011 10:50 AM The Corner)

    The Obama Administration Opens Formal Contacts With the
    Muslim Brotherhood (part 2)

    At around the same time, at his 2009 Cairo speech — which
    was one big “outreach” to Islamists — the administration infuriated the Mubarak
    regime by inviting Brotherhood members to attend, even though the Brotherhood
    was then a formally banned organization under Egyptian law. Ultimately, of
    course, the administration pushed Mubarak aside even though it was clear by
    then that his fall would usher the Brotherhood into power. That will happen in
    the upcoming fall elections, the Brothers having successfully lobbied for a
    rapid election schedule that will prevent the formation of any meaningful
    secular opposition.

    In the meantime, the administration has worked feverishly to
    whitewash the Brotherhood’s extremism and support of terrorism. As I have
    argued, Obama officials were preparing the ground for the Brotherhood’s
    ascendancy. They understand the political consequences of this catastrophe for
    the president … if the American people come to recognize what the Brotherhood
    is and how deeply it despises America and the West.

    Thus, as the uprising in Egypt intensified, Obama adviser
    Bruce Reidel was quick to pen an essay called “Don’t fear Egypt’s Muslim
    Brotherhood” (to which I responded here on NRO). James Clapper, Obama’s
    director of national intelligence, then proceeded to insult Congress’s
    intelligence — and badly damage his reputation for seriousness — by branding
    the Brotherhood as a moderate, “largely secular” organization. (Besides being
    known as the Muslim Brotherhood, the organization’s motto remains, “Allah is
    our objective, the Prophet is our leader, the Koran is our law, Jihad is our
    way, and dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope — Allahu Akbar!“)

    Only a few months before Clapper’s testimony, the
    Brotherhood’s Supreme Guide, Muhammad Badi, called for “jihad and sacrifice” in
    confronting the United States and Israel. He proclaimed that America is
    “experiencing the beginning of its end and is heading toward its demise.” The
    enthusiastic endorsement of violence, particularly against Israel, would be
    surprising only to those who drink the Obama Kool-Aid that claims the
    Brotherhood has renounced violence.

    As I have repeatedly pointed out — and as Barry Rubin argues
    in this excellent analysis of the new Obama policy — the Brotherhood has always
    favored violence where it would advance the Islamist cause; it tactically
    renounced violence against the Egyptian regime because it would have prompted
    ruinous retaliation from Mubarak and because the Brotherhood was making
    progress through the political process and influence over Egyptian

    Quite apart from its long history of violence, the
    Brotherhood has long endorsed terrorism (which it calls “resistance”) against
    Israel and against Western forces operating in Islamic countries. The Brothers
    also favor an inside/outside strategy against the U.S. and Europe — exploiting
    the atmosphere of intimidation created by Islamist terrorists like al Qaeda to
    exercise outsize influence over American and Western policy-makers while
    advancing the sharia agenda through “peaceful” political means. It was not
    surprising, then, that the Brotherhood’s former Supreme Guide, Mohammed Mahdi
    Akef, praised Osama bin Laden as a “mujahid” (a jihad warrior) in a 2008
    interview — adding that, though the Brotherhood objected to al Qaeda’s
    targeting of civilians, “I support its activities against the occupiers,” and
    concluding that bin Laden deserved praise for his “sincerity in resisting the
    occupation,” a point on which the al Qaeda leader was said to be “close to
    Allah on high.”

    The Obama Administration Opens Formal Contacts With the
    Muslim Brotherhood (part 3)

    The Brotherhood’s approach is popular in Egypt and
    throughout the Islamic Middle East. Indeed, shortly after Mubarak fell, the
    Brotherhood’s leading jurisprudent, Sheikh Yusuf Qaradawi, was given a hero’s
    welcome in Tahrir Square, where he had been banned from inciting Islamist
    revolutionaries for 30 years. The sheikh is the most influential Islamic cleric
    in the world. Drawing on classical sharia teaching, he instructs that Islam and
    secularlism cannot co-exist. Moreover, Qaradawi has promised that Islam will
    “conquer” America and Europe, he calls for the annihilation of Israel by
    violent jihad, he incited the murderous rioting over the Danish cartoon
    depictions of Mohammed, and he has issued fatwas approving suicide bombings and
    the terrorist murder of American troops and support personnel in Iraq. I’m sure
    you’ll be shocked to learn that the State Department has nevertheless long
    regarded Qaradawi as an “intelligent and thoughtful voice from the region” who
    is “an important figure that deserves our attention” (to quote Alberto
    Fernandez, State’s director of public diplomacy in the Middle East during the
    Bush years).

    Since Mubarak’s fall, the Brotherhood has worked toward
    formally reestablishing Egypt’s ties with Iran and for ending the peace
    agreement with Israel. The Brotherhood is also behind the “Peace Flotilla”
    expeditions in which Islamists and Leftists join together in efforts to break
    Israel’s blockade against Hamas in Gaza — the American part of the effort is
    being spearheaded by such old Obama friends former PLO spokesman Rashid
    Khalidi, Code Pink founder Jodi Evans, and Weather Underground terrorists Bill
    Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn — and the planned U.S. ship is called, yes, The
    Audacity of Hope.

    Meanwhile, the Obama Justice Department has pulled the plug
    on further prosecution of the Muslim Brotherhood affiliates identified as coconspirators
    in the Holy Land Foundation case. And now we’ll be formally engaged with the
    Brotherhood overseas just as we’ve been formally embracing its operatives in
    our own country. The Grand Jihad is right on schedule.

    By Andrew C. McCarthy

    June 30, 2011 10:50 AM

    The Corner

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    .Read Obama’s ISIS Speech in which he denies ISIS is
    Islamic. That must be news to them.

    President Barack Obama addressed the nation Wednesday
    evening 9-10, outlining his strategy for defeating the Islamic State, the
    militant group also known as ISIS or ISIL.

    Read the full speech below, as prepared for delivery:

    My fellow Americans – tonight, I want to speak to you about
    what the United States will do with our friends and allies to degrade and
    ultimately destroy the terrorist group known as ISIL.

    As Commander-in-Chief, my highest priority is the security
    of the American people. Over the last several years, we have consistently taken
    the fight to terrorists who threaten our country. We took out Osama bin Laden
    and much of al Qaeda’s leadership in Afghanistan and Pakistan. We’ve targeted
    al Qaeda’s affiliate in Yemen, and recently eliminated the top commander of its
    affiliate in Somalia. We’ve done so while bringing more than 140,000 American
    troops home from Iraq, and drawing down our forces in Afghanistan, where our
    combat mission will end later this year. Thanks to our military and
    counterterrorism professionals, America is safer.

    Still, we continue to face a terrorist threat. We cannot
    erase every trace of evil from the world, and small groups of killers have the
    capacity to do great harm. That was the case before 9/11, and that remains true
    today. That’s why we must remain vigilant as threats emerge. At this moment,
    the greatest threats come from the Middle East and North Africa, where radical
    groups exploit grievances for their own gain. And one of those groups is ISIL –
    which calls itself the “Islamic State.”

    Now let’s make two things clear: ISIL is not “Islamic.” No
    religion condones the killing of innocents, and the vast majority of ISIL’s victims
    have been Muslim. And ISIL is certainly not a state. It was formerly al Qaeda’s
    affiliate in Iraq, and has taken advantage of sectarian strife and Syria’s
    civil war to gain territory on both sides of the Iraq-Syrian border. It is
    recognized by no government, nor the people it subjugates. ISIL is a terrorist
    organization, pure and simple. And it has no vision other than the slaughter of
    all who stand in its way.

    In a region that has known so much bloodshed, these
    terrorists are unique in their brutality. They execute captured prisoners. They
    kill children. They enslave, rape, and force women into marriage. They
    threatened a religious minority with genocide. In acts of barbarism, they took
    the lives of two American journalists – Jim Foley and Steven Sotloff.

    So ISIL poses a threat to the people of Iraq and Syria, and
    the broader Middle East – including American citizens, personnel and
    facilities. If left unchecked, these terrorists could pose a growing threat
    beyond that region – including to the United States. While we have not yet
    detected specific plotting against our homeland, ISIL leaders have threatened
    America and our allies. Our intelligence community believes that thousands of
    foreigners – including Europeans and some Americans – have joined them in Syria
    and Iraq. Trained and battle-hardened, these fighters could try to return to
    their home countries and carry out deadly attacks.

    I know many Americans are concerned about these threats.
    Tonight, I want you to know that the United States of America is meeting them
    with strength and resolve. Last month, I ordered our military to take targeted
    action against ISIL to stop its advances. Since then, we have conducted more
    than 150 successful airstrikes in Iraq. These strikes have protected American personnel
    and facilities, killed ISIL fighters, destroyed weapons, and given space for
    Iraqi and Kurdish forces to reclaim key territory. These strikes have helped
    save the lives of thousands of innocent men, women and children. (Text

    Part 2 of text of speech.
    But this is not our fight alone. American power can make a decisive
    difference, but we cannot do for Iraqis what they must do for themselves, nor
    can we take the place of Arab partners in securing their region. That’s why
    I’ve insisted that additional U.S. action depended upon Iraqis forming an
    inclusive government, which they have now done in recent days. So tonight, with
    a new Iraqi government in place, and following consultations with allies abroad
    and Congress at home, I can announce that America will lead a broad coalition
    to roll back this terrorist threat.

    Our objective is clear: we will degrade, and ultimately
    destroy, ISIL through a comprehensive and sustained counter-terrorism strategy.

    First, we will conduct a systematic campaign of airstrikes
    against these terrorists. Working with the Iraqi government, we will expand our
    efforts beyond protecting our own people and humanitarian missions, so that
    we’re hitting ISIL targets as Iraqi forces go on offense. Moreover, I have made
    it clear that we will hunt down terrorists who threaten our country, wherever
    they are. That means I will not hesitate to take action against ISIL in Syria,
    as well as Iraq. This is a core principle of my presidency: if you threaten
    America, you will find no safe haven.

    Second, we will increase our support to forces fighting
    these terrorists on the ground. In June, I deployed several hundred American
    service members to Iraq to assess how we can best support Iraqi Security
    Forces. Now that those teams have completed their work – and Iraq has formed a
    government – we will send an additional 475 service members to Iraq. As I have
    said before, these American forces will not have a combat mission – we will not
    get dragged into another ground war in Iraq. But they are needed to support
    Iraqi and Kurdish forces with training, intelligence and equipment. We will
    also support Iraq’s efforts to stand up National Guard Units to help Sunni
    communities secure their own freedom from ISIL control.

    Across the border, in Syria, we have ramped up our military
    assistance to the Syrian opposition. Tonight, I again call on Congress to give
    us additional authorities and resources to train and equip these fighters. In
    the fight against ISIL, we cannot rely on an Assad regime that terrorizes its
    people; a regime that will never regain the legitimacy it has lost. Instead, we
    must strengthen the opposition as the best counterweight to extremists like
    ISIL, while pursuing the political solution necessary to solve Syria’s crisis once
    and for all.

    Third, we will continue to draw on our substantial
    counterterrorism capabilities to prevent ISIL attacks. Working with our
    partners, we will redouble our efforts to cut off its funding; improve our
    intelligence; strengthen our defenses; counter its warped ideology; and stem
    the flow of foreign fighters into – and out of – the Middle East. And in two
    weeks, I will chair a meeting of the UN Security Council to further mobilize
    the international community around this effort.

    Fourth, we will continue providing humanitarian assistance
    to innocent civilians who have been displaced by this terrorist organization.
    This includes Sunni and Shia Muslims who are at grave risk, as well as tens of
    thousands of Christians and other religious minorities. We cannot allow these
    communities to be driven from their ancient homelands. (text continues)

    Part 3. This is our
    strategy. And in each of these four parts of our strategy, America will be
    joined by a broad coalition of partners. Already, allies are flying planes with
    us over Iraq; sending arms and assistance to Iraqi Security Forces and the
    Syrian opposition; sharing intelligence; and providing billions of dollars in
    humanitarian aid. Secretary Kerry was in Iraq today meeting with the new
    government and supporting their efforts to promote unity, and in the coming
    days he will travel across the Middle East and Europe to enlist more partners
    in this fight, especially Arab nations who can help mobilize Sunni communities
    in Iraq and Syria to drive these terrorists from their lands. This is American
    leadership at its best: we stand with people who fight for their own freedom;
    and we rally other nations on behalf of our common security and common

    My Administration has also secured bipartisan support for
    this approach here at home. I have the authority to address the threat from
    ISIL. But I believe we are strongest as a nation when the President and
    Congress work together. So I welcome congressional support for this effort in
    order to show the world that Americans are united in confronting this danger.

    Now, it will take time to eradicate a cancer like ISIL. And
    any time we take military action, there are risks involved – especially to the
    servicemen and women who carry out these missions. But I want the American
    people to understand how this effort will be different from the wars in Iraq
    and Afghanistan. It will not involve American combat troops fighting on foreign
    soil. This counter-terrorism campaign will be waged through a steady, relentless
    effort to take out ISIL wherever they exist, using our air power and our
    support for partner forces on the ground. This strategy of taking out
    terrorists who threaten us, while supporting partners on the front lines, is
    one that we have successfully pursued in Yemen and Somalia for years. And it is
    consistent with the approach I outlined earlier this year: to use force against
    anyone who threatens America’s core interests, but to mobilize partners
    wherever possible to address broader challenges to international order.

    My fellow Americans, we live in a time of great change.
    Tomorrow marks 13 years since our country was attacked. Next week marks 6 years
    since our economy suffered its worst setback since the Great Depression. Yet
    despite these shocks; through the pain we have felt and the grueling work
    required to bounce back – America is better positioned today to seize the
    future than any other nation on Earth.

    Our technology companies and universities are unmatched; our
    manufacturing and auto industries are thriving. Energy independence is closer
    than it’s been in decades. For all the work that remains, our businesses are in
    the longest uninterrupted stretch of job creation in our history. Despite all
    the divisions and discord within our democracy, I see the grit and
    determination and common goodness of the American people every single day – and
    that makes me more confident than ever about our country’s future.

    Abroad, American leadership is the one constant in an
    uncertain world. It is America that has the capacity and the will to mobilize
    the world against terrorists. It is America that has rallied the world against
    Russian aggression, and in support of the Ukrainian peoples’ right to determine
    their own destiny. It is America – our scientists, our doctors, our know-how –
    that can help contain and cure the outbreak of Ebola. It is America that helped
    remove and destroy Syria’s declared chemical weapons so they cannot pose a
    threat to the Syrian people – or the world – again. And it is America that is helping
    Muslim communities around the world not just in the fight against terrorism,
    but in the fight for opportunity, tolerance, and a more hopeful future. (text

    Part 4. America, our
    endless blessings bestow an enduring burden. But as Americans, we welcome our
    responsibility to lead. From Europe to Asia – from the far reaches of Africa to
    war-torn capitals of the Middle East – we stand for freedom, for justice, for
    dignity. These are values that have guided our nation since its founding. Tonight,
    I ask for your support in carrying that leadership forward. I do so as a
    Commander-in-Chief who could not be prouder of our men and women in uniform –
    pilots who bravely fly in the face of danger above the Middle East, and
    service-members who support our partners on the ground.

    When we helped prevent the massacre of civilians trapped on
    a distant mountain, here’s what one of them said. “We owe our American friends
    our lives. Our children will always remember that there was someone who felt
    our struggle and made a long journey to protect innocent people.”

    That is the difference we make in the world. And our own
    safety – our own security – depends upon our willingness to do what it takes to
    defend this nation, and uphold the values that we stand for – timeless ideals
    that will endure long after those who offer only hate and destruction have been
    vanquished from the Earth.

    May God bless our troops, and may God bless the United
    States of America.

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    Obama brother’s Hamas scarf only tip of iceberg

    Best man at president’s wedding echoes groups boast Islam
    will destroy Israel

    (Malik Obama and Barack Obama at the president’s wedding –
    image is in the story if you go on line)

    The report Tuesday of a photo showing Barack Obama’s
    half-brother, Malik Obama, wearing a Hamas scarf that declares the Palestinian
    organization’s aim of destroying Israel tells only part of the story of Malik’s
    role in the violent advance of Islam.

    The photo, posted at the website of Malik Obama’s nonprofit
    Barack H. Obama Foundation, shows Obama’s half-brother – the best man in the
    president’s wedding – wearing the scarf at a 2010 conference in Sanaa, Yemen.

    The text of the scarf, reports Arabic-language researcher
    Walid Shoebat, features the Palestinian slogan “Jerusalem is ours – We are
    coming” and a map with the phrase “From the river to the sea,” a reference to
    the elimination of Israel, which lies between the Jordan River and the
    Mediterranean Sea.

    As WND reported, Malik Obama has become a target in an
    Egyptian government terrorist investigation because of his role as an owner and
    investment adviser for the Sudan-based Islamic Dawa Organization and the
    organization’s umbrella group, the Muslim Brotherhood.

    The Egypt-based Muslim Brotherhood, which rose to power in
    Cairo in the so-called Arab Spring and was ousted in another popular revolt, is
    the progenitor of Hamas and most of the world’s violent jihadist organizations,
    including al-Qaida. A 1991 Muslim Brotherhood strategy paper obtained by the
    FBI describes the Brotherhood’s “work in America” as “a kind of grand jihad in
    eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within.”

    Malik Obama wearing Hamas scarf at 2010 conference in Yemen

    WND reported complaints had been filed with Egypt’s
    prosecutor-general calling for Malik Obama to be put on Egypt’s terror watch
    list and brought to Egypt to be questioned by state criminal investigators for
    allegedly financing terrorism, according to Shoebat, a former Palestinian Liberation
    Organization member who has converted to Christianity and renounced his role in

    WND reported in September a criminal complaint cited Malik
    for managing funds for both the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and the Islamic
    Dawa Organization in Sudan, which has been designated by the U.S. State
    Department as a terrorist state.

    In November, WND reported Egyptian lawyers filed criminal
    terrorism charges in the International Criminal Court against President Obama,
    in addition to the criminal terrorism charges previously filed in Egyptian
    courts against Malik.

    WND reported last week two leaked classified documents show
    Egyptian security forces have been monitoring Malik Obama’s activities and
    implicate President Obama, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and former
    President Bill Clinton in the aiding and abetting of terrorists.

    The documents were entered as evidence in the criminal
    trials of former Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi and other top Muslim
    Brotherhood leaders.

    WND reported in August that the vice president of the
    Supreme Constitutional Court of Egypt gave a speech and participated in an
    interview on Egyptian television identifying Malik Obama as “a major architect”
    managing investments for the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.

    In 2011, two years before the IRS targeting of conservative
    groups became a national scandal, WND reported Malik Obama’s Barack H. Obama
    Foundation apparently received IRS approval just one month after application.
    An IRS determination letter dated June 11, 2011, granted a highly irregular,
    retroactive tax-exempt status only after the group came under fire for having
    operated as a 501(c)3 foundation since 2008 without applying to the IRS.

    Published: 01/29/2014 at 8:56 PM

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    Breaks Down Why Obama’s Prayer Breakfast Remarks Left Him Astonished: ‘I Was

    Feb. 6, 2015
    4:43am Oliver Darcy

    analyst Charles Krauthammer said on Fox News Thursday he was “stunned’ by
    remarks President Barack Obama made earlier that day at the National Prayer

    In his speech,
    Obama appeared to suggest that violence committed in the name of Islam was not
    so different from the violence committed by Christians during the Crusades.

    “And lest we
    get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place, remember
    that during the Crusades and the Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds
    in the name of Christ,” Obama said. “In our home country, slavery and Jim Crow
    all too often was justified in the name of Christ.”

    was appalled by the comparison.

    “I was stunned
    that the president could say something so at once banal and offensive,” he

    The famed
    political analyst noted that the remarks came just days after the Islamic State
    released a video showing them burn a Jordanian pilot in a cage.

    “The present
    issue is Muslim radicalism and how to attack it,” Krauthammer said.

    (More in the
    continued pattern of Obamas World Apology Tour…..making excuses for the poison
    that is or is part of Islam- smokedsalmoned)

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    At Our Universities – No Surprise

    – What exactly
    does The Muslim Student Association stand for? Can we take the
    stated intent of the group at face value or is there something more
    sinister behind the MSA?

    There was an interesting exchange between members of the MSA and David
    Horowitz, given at UC San Diego that was caught on tape recently. Mr.
    Horowitz was there to counter the M.S.A.’s Anti Apartheid Week aimed at Israel
    . Given that the MSA members at such rallies have a tendancy to display
    signs that are favorable to Hitler, its no wonder Mr. Horowitz felt
    the need to hold a counterpoint discussion.

    – During
    his Speech, a very articulate, apparently american raised Muslim female stands
    up and challenges the assertions of ties between the MSA and Al Queda,
    Hizbollah etc.. Look up Aafia Siddiqui, Ramzi Yousef, a and Ali Asad
    Chandia, for just a few former MSA members that went on to a life of
    terrorism. He asserts they did not read all of his material and he
    then asks her a few telling questions.

    He asked her or her group to denounce Hizbollah, Hamas which was
    refused in an articulate but paranoid anti US governement way.
    Next he asked her a question whether she was for or against a statement
    by Hizbollah on Jewish Israeli Genocide. She
    did not at first answer but only offered silence. When pressed for an
    answer in terms of for or against she calmly, coldly and boldly
    stated “FOR IT.” Watch the video.
    If you search on the web under “for-it-msa-student-confesses-she-wants-a-second-holocaust”
    you should be able to find it.

    – What
    is going on on our college and university campuses?
    Why would the University or the Media be silent on anti-semitic
    rallies in the first place? Is our government aware of the
    danger posed by the MSA serving as a potential fifth column of anti semitic,
    genocidal, terrorist supoport and if so what are they going to do about it?


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    NYC police: Hatchet attack was terrorist act

    A New York City police officer is recuperating in a Queens
    hospital after a man went at his head with a hatchet, police said Thursday
    night. NYPD

    New York City police are calling a brazen, broad-daylight
    attack by a hatchet-wielding man on a group of police officers an act of

    The suspect — Zale Thompson, 32 — attacked a group of four
    officers who had stopped to take a photo Thursday when a freelance photographer
    approached them. The suspect charged at the group for no apparent reason,
    police said. Thompson was shot dead by one of the officers.

    “This was a
    terrorist attack,” Police Commissioner William Bratton said Friday. A
    clear motive has yet to be established in the case.

    It appears Thompson — who converted to Islam two years ago —
    became “self-radicalized” and was inspired by terrorist groups such
    as the Islamic State and al-Qaeda, the New York Times reported.

    “We at this
    time believe that he acted alone,” Bratton said at a news conference,
    which was also attended by New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, according to the
    Times. “We would describe him as self-radicalized. It would appear at this
    time that he was self-directed in his activities.”

    John Miller, who
    oversees intelligence and counterterrorism for the New York Police Department,
    said recent online history showed Thompson had visited websites related to
    those terrorist groups, the Times reported.

    “It appears,
    just from the electronic forensic piece of this, that this is something he has
    been thinking about for some time and thinking about with more intensity in
    recent days,” Miller said.

    Still, Thompson
    was not on a watch list, and there is no indication he sought training or an
    affiliation with terrorist groups.

    The 32-year-old
    served in the U.S. Navy, and had a series of run-ins with the law for domestic
    violence in California in 2003 and 2004, police said. In recent postings on
    social media, he ranted about injustices in American society and oppression
    abroad, but the postings didn’t point to any affiliation with a terror group or
    direct influence of radical Islam, they said.

    The attack left
    police officer Kenneth Healy, 25, in the hospital after he was hit in the head
    with a hatchet, police said. He was in critical but stable condition as of
    Friday night, de Blasio said, according to CNN. Another police officer, Joseph
    Meeker, 24, was hit in the arm. He was treated and released, de Blasio said.

    A bystander, a
    29-year-old woman was hit in the lower back by a stray bullet when police
    opened fire on the attacker. She was recovering from surgery, police said. De
    Blasio said she was in critical but stable condition Friday.

    The suspect first
    struck Meeker in the right arm, then went after Healy, striking him in the
    head, Bratton said.

    “As he
    continued his assault, the remaining two officers then fired on the armed
    suspect who fell to the ground dropping the hatchet,” Bratton said.
    “The suspect was pronounced dead at the scene.”

    Katharine Lackey, USA TODAY 2:22 p.m. EDT October 25,
    2014 Contributing: Melanie Eversley
    in New York City; The Associated Press


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    FDR & Tuskegee Syphilis Study

    Tuskegee Syphilis Study, began at the dawn of the FDR (D) administration and
    studied but did not treat black men who had Syphilis. The study was
    carried out in Alabama
    which may be quite telling but it was carried out the United States Public
    Health Service (PHS). My question is why didn’t the FDR administration or
    the Truman (D) Administration shut it down during the time they were in power
    from the 1932 election to the last days of Truman’s power in 1953?

    Ran the south that entire time. Why did
    they and FDR and Truman allow this to start and continue?

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    Ohioan gets 5-year prison term for illegal voting

    A former Hamilton County, Ohio, poll worker was sent to

    prison July 17, 2013, for illegal voting. The Cincinnati

    Kimball Perry, The Cincinnati Enquirer 6:16 p.m. EDT July
    17, 2013

    Judge said poll worker used her knowledge to try to evade
    detection. Melowese Richardson was a poll worker starting in 1998

    She took a plea deal to plead guilty to 4 counts of illegal
    voting 4 additional counts were dismissed

    CINCINNATI — Calling her a common criminal who abused her

    authority as a poll worker, a judge Wednesday sent a
    Cincinnati woman to prison

    for five years following her illegal voting conviction.

    In a case watched around the country, Melowese Richardson
    was a Hamilton County poll worker from 1998 until her arrest earlier this year
    when she was charged with eight counts of illegal voting. In May, she accepted
    a plea deal and was convicted of four counts in exchange for the other four
    being dismissed.

    “This is not a little thing. It’s not a minor thing.
    This is what our country’s based on — free elections,” Judge Robert
    Ruehlman of Hamilton County Common Pleas Court told Richardson, chastizing her
    for violating the principle of one person, one vote. She was convicted of
    voting twice in the 2012 election and voting three times — in 2008, 2011 and
    2012 — for her sister, Montez Richardson, who has been in a coma since 2003.

    Richardson told the judge she was bothered that Amy Searcy,
    the Hamilton County Board of Elections director, had criticized her moments

    before the sentencing. Richardson, 58, said that for years
    she helped register

    Democrats to vote but now was being persecuted despite her
    decades as a poll


    “I think the board has shown me nothing but total
    disrespect for the 30 years I’ve served them,” she told the judge. “I
    believe in the system and I’ve done nothing to harm the system or cause
    disgrace to President Obama.”

    The conservative, outspoken judge responded with scathing
    comments, blasting Richardson for suggesting she was being prosecuted because
    she was a black Democrat helping a black Democratic presidential candidate.

    “It has nothing to do with race. It has nothing to do
    with politics. It has nothing to do with disrespecting you. You did this to
    yourself,” Ruehlman told her. “You’re very selfish, self-centered. I
    really believe President Obama, if he were asked about this today, he would be
    appalled. He would not want anybody to cheat to get elected.”

    Ruehlman noted that two others convicted of illegal voting
    before Richardson received much lighter sentences but stressed that their cases
    were different.

    “You did this to yourself. … I really believe President
    Obama, if he were asked about this today, he would be appalled. He would not
    want anybody to cheat to get elected.”

    Judge Robert Ruehlman, Hamilton County Common Pleas Court

    The judge said Richardson deserved a prison sentence, which
    was one year less than the maximum possible, because she has a lengthy criminal
    record, schemed repeatedly over five years to cast several illegal votes and
    used her training and expertise as a poll worker to try to evade detection.

    ” ‘I’m Melowese Richardson. I can take the law into my
    own hands,’ ” the judge said, mocking what he believes is Richardson’s


    Richardson previously was convicted of threatening to kill a
    witness in a criminal case against her brother, of stealing, of drunken driving
    and of beating someone in a bar fight.

    Anything short of a prison sentence, Assistant Prosecutor
    Bill Anderson told the judge, would be an attack on the voting system.

    As a poll worker, “her job is actually to protect the

    integrity and sanctity of the voting system,” Anderson
    said. “(She)

    is an ideologue who was hell bent on stuffing the ballot box
    with as many Obama

    votes as possible.”

    The Republican National Lawyers Association maintains a list

    of voting fraud stories on its website, and in the past year
    has featured cases

    in more than two dozen states. The outcomes of all the cases
    are not known.

    Bill Gallagher, Richardson’s lawyer, suspected she would be
    sent to prison but was surprised with the sentence.

    “I thought prison was a real possibility because of her
    record of 25 years ago,” Gallagher said. “I don’t think that the
    length of it was anywhere near what we expected.”

    Tim Burke wasn’t surprised.

    Burke, chairman of the Hamilton County Democratic Party, had
    no sympathy for Richardson.

    “It’s very sad how she doesn’t understand how she
    abused the trust that was placed in her as a poll worker,” Burke said.
    “She frankly embarrassed the board and, in the process, all of us who
    trust in the system.”

    Others convicted

    Melowese Richardson was the third person convicted this year

    of illegal voting in the Cincinnati area:

    • Sister Marguerite Kloos, 55, of Delhi Township, Ohio,
    voted last fall via absentee ballot for another nun who died before she could
    cast her vote. Kloos lost her job as a dean at the College of Mount Saint
    Joseph and was placed on probation. She could have her conviction erased and be
    eligible to vote again.

    • Russell Glassop, 76, of Symmes Township, Ohio, submitted
    his wife’s absentee ballot after she died in 2012. He was placed on probation
    but could have his conviction erased and be eligible to vote again.

    • Richardson, 58, of Cincinnati, was convicted of casting illegal
    votes in 2012 when she was a poll worker. She was sent to prison for five

    Three others — Margaret I. Allen, 64, formerly of Loveland,
    Ohio; Ernestine Strickland, 84, of Memphis, Tenn.; and Andre Wilson, 49, of
    Cincinnati — have cases pending.

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    A project of the David Horowitz Freedom Center

    Hillary Clinton Lies…. A Lot

    Hillary Clinton says that she is the most
    transparent woman in American politics. There’s just one problem – Hillary
    Clinton lies… a lot. Ben Shapiro takes a trip in the way back machine to look
    at a few of the more egregious examples.


    Hillary Clinton is the most transparent woman
    she knows. She said so in 2008:

    I think I’m probably the most transparent
    person in public life…I feel you know a lot more about me than you know about
    anyone else. Much of it untrue, but nevertheless, it’s all out there.

    Unfortunately, Hillary is a liar. When news
    emerged this week that Hillary had set up a private email server the day before
    her nomination as Secretary of State, and had used her private email address
    for her entire tenure as Secretary of State so that there were no government
    records of those emails, and that her aides also used private email addresses,
    and that her server had the capacity to fully delete emails, and that hackers
    could have hacked her emails…no one should have been surprised. Of course she

    Let’s take a trip in the wayback

    When Hillary Clinton was 27, back in 1974,
    she worked for the House Judiciary Committee, which was investigating Richard
    Nixon. According to her boss, Democrat Jerry Zeifman, Hillary met with Teddy
    Kennedy’s chief political strategist – a violation of House rules. She then
    manipulated the system to avoid investigating Nixon, hoping he’d stick around
    long enough to sink Republican election chances in 1976, letting her boy Teddy
    into the White House.

    According to the guy who shared office space with Hillary, John
    Labovitz, Hillary gave “erroneous legal opinions” and tried to “deny Nixon
    representation by counsel.” Zeifman said that Hillary wrote a “fraudulent legal
    brief” and “confiscated public documents.” Zeifman fired her and wouldn’t give
    her a letter of recommendation. Zeifman later wrote a book stating that
    “Hillary Clinton is ethically unfit to be either a senator or president.”

    Fast forward twenty years. Hillary’s now in
    the White House, and there’s a big search going on for a memorandum written by
    a former presidential aide regarding the firing of members of the White House
    travel office. They go missing for two years. At the same time, documents
    regarding Hillary Clinton’s work at the Rose Law firm in Arkansas –
    specifically, regarding a savings and loan company run by the Clintons’
    business partner in the Whitewater land venture – go missing for two

    Then, in January 1996, they miraculously
    appear. The Rose Law firm documents magically show up. A White House aide finds
    them. In the White House. In a storage area in the third-floor of the White
    House – the private residence of the President and First Lady. And the
    long-lost memo shows up just a couple of days later. How miraculous. Hillary’s
    lawyers said that she had no idea the documents were there. Except that the FBI
    found Hillary’s fingerprints on the documents. Oopsies. Hillary is still the
    only First Lady in American history to be fingerprinted by the FBI.

    All that was before the rise of email. But
    the Clintons loved email, because it was so much easier to hide emails than to
    track down every copy of every document for destruction. And hide those emails
    they did. According to Judicial Watch, Cheryl Mills, Hillary’s hatchet woman
    helped prevent the Clintons from turning over 1.8 million emails to Judicial
    Watch, Congress, and federal investigators. 1.8 million emails. When a White
    House computer contractor tried to reveal this, White House officials allegedly
    told her to “keep her mouth shut.” Cheryl Mills. You may remember her. She
    ended up being in charge of document production for Hillary’s State Department
    in the Benghazi investigation.

    When she was Secretary of State, over and
    over again, document requests to the State Department were rejected, because
    they didn’t have the documents – Hillary did, on her private server. The
    Associated Press hit a stonewall. So did Judicial Watch. So did Gawker.

    All a big coincidence, of course. It was all
    a big mixup when Clinton hit man Sandy Berger stole documents from the National
    Archives and stuffed them down his pants, too. And now Hillary has assured us
    via Twitter that she wants the State Department to release all her hidden

    We should believe her. After all, she’s the
    most transparent woman in American history. At least, the most transparently corrupt.


    Ben Shapiro:

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    Smart power means empathizing with your enemies


    It’s difficult to know where to start with this
    nonsense from a recent speech given by Hillary
    Clinton, in which the presumed Democratic front-runner finally
    defines what she sees as “smart power,” and what she claims is a 21st-century
    approach to diplomacy. In large part, the former Secretary of State says it
    means psychoanalyzing enemies to understand them better, which … is exactly
    what nations have been doing for centuries, if not millenia. That’s why, for
    instance, our nations turned out experts in Sovietology like Condoleezza Rice,
    so that they could rise to positions of policymaking importance and apply their
    insights into the internal culture of our enemies for our best strategic

    Hillary goes one step farther by claiming that we must
    empathize with our enemies in order to “define the problems”:


    This is what we call smart power. Using every possible
    tool and partner to advance peace and security. Leaving no one on the
    sidelines. Showing respect even for one’s enemies. Trying to understand, in so
    far as psychologically possible, empathize with their perspective and point of
    view. Helping to define the problems, determine the solutions. That is what we
    believe in the 21st century will change — change the prospects for peace.


    Empathize? It was empathy that produced the notorious
    “reset button” Hillary presented to Sergei Lavrov, and the Russian point of
    view with which she and the Obama administration empathized was that everything
    was George Bush’s fault. The flat-footed response to Russian aggression ever
    since shows exactly why analysis and empathy are two very different things, and
    why one’s necessary and the other results in naive and feckless policies. The
    Obama administration utterly failed to define the problems that were already
    clear by the time Russia invaded Georgia in 2008 because it was too busy trying
    to woo Vladimir Putin rather than put policies in place that would discourage
    him from adventurism.

    Besides, with which enemies are we called to empathize
    now? Iran? Well, the mullahs are still murdering gays and lesbians, oppressing
    their people, rigging elections, calling for the extermination of Israel, and
    building a nuclear weapon with which to accomplish it. Also, they are
    sponsoring terrorist networks like Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad while helping
    fuel the war in Iraq with its backing of Nouri al-Maliki’s purges prior to his
    ejection as Prime Minister. It’ll be mighty difficult to find points of empathy
    with the government that still refers to the US as The Great Satan, but Hillary
    sure tried — and John Kerry is still trying, too.

    John Hinderaker found
    another laughable point in the supposed deep thoughts
    of the former Secretary of State:


    Of the hundreds of peace treaties signed since the
    early 1990s, between or within nations, she said fewer than 10 percent had any
    female negotiators and fewer than 3 percent had women as signatories.

    “Is it any
    wonder that many of these agreements fail between [sic] a few years?”
    Clinton asked.


    It’s enough to give non sequiturs a
    bad name! But beyond the easy ridicule, there is a serious point: liberalism of
    the Clinton variety is utterly out of ammo. Hillary has no ideas of any
    intellectual or strategic significance. All she can do is utter platitudes and
    pander to 1970s-style feminism. And for this she gets $300,000 a pop?

    It’s an especially rich zinger coming from a Secretary
    of State who cannot point to any major agreement or treaty signed during her
    watch. What about that “reset button,” Mrs. Clinton? How well did that work out
    after “a few years”?

    Smart power,

    posted at 3:21 pm on December 4, 2014 by Ed Morrissey